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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 21:41:14 2022 No.14048758 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14048799 >>14048909 >>14049110 >>14049200 >>14049220 >>14049231 >>14049323 >>14049402

why do i need the jab when i can just wear a full hazmat suit if i ever choose to leave my house? i'm probably more protected than dirty vaxxcattle will ever be.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 21:42:47 No.14048765 Report

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its not about the virus, you just need to get the jab because science say so

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 21:50:51 No.14048799 Report

Quoted By: >>14048809 >>14048820 >>14048831 >>14048909

>>14048758
Because not everybody can get a hazmat suit and public health is made for the lowest common denominator.

Ultimately, you're the one endangering yourself and others by not getting vaccinated.

On an individual level, if you commited to wearing the hazmat suit everytime you could spread covid in the workplace, I don't think people would care.

How else would immunocompromised people be able to live lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 21:55:43 No.14048809 Report

Quoted By: >>14048816

>>14048799
the people not wearing hazmats and relying on a dubious vaccine with an absolute risk reduction of 0.82% for a few months and 100x the rate of myocarditis compared to mmr are the ones endangering themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 21:57:25 No.14048816 Report

Quoted By: >>14048836 >>14048845

>>14048809
Lmao show me the study, and show me that its been done in a credible journal at scale.

I want a sample size greater than 1000 faggot.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 21:58:49 No.14048820 Report

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>>14048799
I'm immuno compromised and I give zeo shit and will never vax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 22:04:13 No.14048831 Report

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>>14048799
>How else would immunocompromised people be able to live lol.
But they're not being protected by the vaccinated either at this point. In fact the vaccinated are putting them at even greater risk if we're to believe the data. If we wanted to protect everyone, then why are the unvaccinated being held to different mandates compared to the vaccinated while the vaccinated become super spreaders?

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 22:05:47 No.14048836 Report

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>>14048816
>Lmao show me the study
Here you go.

>I want a sample size greater than 1000 faggot.
A sample of millions, you're welcome. :-)

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 22:08:20 No.14048845 Report

Quoted By: >>14049105 >>14049213

>>14048816
absolute risk redux is when going over pfizer's own numbers:
https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/media-resources/the-pfizer-inoculations-for-covid-19-more-harm-than-good-2/
then:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900
>Twenty individuals had vaccine-related myocarditis (1.0 [95% CI, 0.61-1.54] per 100000) and 37 had pericarditis (1.8 [95% CI, 1.30-2.55] per 100000).
normal vaxxes:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6437672/
>Thus, the incidence rate of diagnosed myopericarditis in the 42 days following vaccination with VZV, YFV, OPV, or MMR was 0.24 per 100,000 vaccinated.
and efficacy is shit even for the strains it was meant to target:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02183-8/fulltext
face it, vaxxcattle. you fell for another trash [brand] product.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 22:25:01 No.14048901 Report

Quoted By: >>14048920

Fellow man of culture...

Wearing is caring! Stay safe! Anti-maskers are welcome to leave!

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 22:26:27 No.14048909 Report

Quoted By: >>14048920

>>14048758
This is what I do, at least a respirator and goggles.
The best part is it makes every single kind of person seethe. I only go out if needed though as I run my business from home. Don't see why a wagie couldn't wear them though. Respirators are 1000x more comfortable than masks.
>vaxxoids
>maskers
>antivaxxers
>antimaskers
>nothingburger-ers
All anyone has to do is just stop giving a shit about what any normalfag thinks about you and you're golden (and actually protected from the virus).

>>14048799
shut the fuck up and go back. vax doesn't even work on immunocompromised. Scum like you are the reason this shit will actually never end. Instead of pushing them for a real solution, you not only accept ineffective poison, but shill it (FOR FREE!) FAGGOT.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 22:28:45 No.14048920 Report

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>>14048901
>>14048909
baste, glad to see more posters that actually cares about grandma.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 22:49:40 No.14048985 Report

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Mask up or stay inside

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:25:10 No.14049105 Report

Quoted By: >>14049146 >>14049148 >>14049179

>>14048845
>https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02183-8/fulltext
Your own journal shows good efficacy of the vaccines. Graph A is effectiveness against infection in general, Graph B is effectiveness against hospitalization.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:27:06 No.14049110 Report

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>>14048758
Some countries have actually banned gasmasks/hazmat suits

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:41:04 No.14049146 Report

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>>14049105
People actually concerned about this pandemic wear respirators. Vaccine theorists like you don't stand a chance against masks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:42:04 No.14049148 Report

Quoted By: >>14049166

>>14049105
>The most recent report from August, 2021, from Israel, however, suggests that some reduction in effectiveness against hospital admissions has been observed among older people (?65 years) roughly 6 months after receiving the second dose of BNT162b2.31
ruh roh

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:46:18 No.14049166 Report

Quoted By: >>14049179

>>14049148
>some reduction
>without booster
And now here we are. I know your next reply, so don't bother typing it, because it's just a deflection.

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:51:16 No.14049179 Report

Quoted By: >>14049194

>>14049105
they cut it off right when vaxxes start to wane off with hospitalization protection. also look at the confidence bounds as time goes on how much it widens.

>>14049166
there is no deflection, i am consistent. you are just an overmedicated junkie looking for an excuse to boost.
>i have a headache
>takes ibuprofen
>feels sad
>takes ssris
>deadly pathogen
>takes dubious vaccine for entire life instead of making healthy lifestyle changes to protect himself

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:55:18 No.14049194 Report

Quoted By: >>14049197

>>14049179
yep, you said exactly what I expected

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:56:38 No.14049197 Report

Quoted By: >>14049209

>>14049194
it's called being consistent. you should know as you take every excuse to line the pockets of drug dealers with your wages.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:57:34 No.14049200 Report

Quoted By: >>14049205

>>14048758
another shill implying protection is needed

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:58:37 No.14049205 Report

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>>14049200
Keep on spreading the word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ0ftoiIQxU

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Anonymous Sun 02 Jan 2022 23:59:24 No.14049209 Report

Quoted By: >>14049227

>>14049197
Just wait until you learn that I work for them too.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:00:17 No.14049213 Report

Quoted By: >>14049227 >>14049230

>>14048845
>>Twenty individuals had vaccine-related myocarditis (1.0 [95% CI, 0.61-1.54] per 100000) and 37 had pericarditis (1.8 [95% CI, 1.30-2.55] per 100000).
so this is like 0.050% of people with this adverse side effect? Do we know what it is in the vaccine that causes these side effects? How do they even know that it's the vaccine and they're not just getting the disease by chance since it's such a small amount of people? Genuinely wondering here.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:02:51 No.14049220 Report

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>>14048758
Based Bubble Boy.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:04:46 No.14049227 Report

Quoted By: >>14049232

>>14049209
and why would i listen to someone with a profit motive from keeping people sick?

>>14049213
>Do we know what it is in the vaccine that causes these side effects? How do they even know that it's the vaccine and they're not just getting the disease by chance since it's such a small amount of people? Genuinely wondering here.
more people are associated with myocarditis on average than with mmr. the actual reason for it has not been determined, but the onus was on big pharma to prove its safety prior to launch. now we know the spike itself is cytotoxic and the vaccine produces an analog with a few amino acid differences which either don't change this property or are susceptible to translation error if they do. but that can have a whole host of effects.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:05:15 No.14049230 Report

Quoted By: >>14049242 >>14049245 >>14049313 >>14049327

>>14049213
>Do we know what it is that causes the effect?
No
>How do we know it's not random chance
They have a control group to compare incidence to

As for why the anti-COVID vaxxers talk about myocarditis so much, it's all they have to cling to. It's the only tangible thing they can talk about to justify not wanting to take those vaccines. Of course, they ignore that pretty much every case of myocarditis observed in the vaxxed cohort is benign and the health issues from getting COVID are much more numerous and severe, but they are not arguing from a rational or real stance to begin with.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:05:23 No.14049231 Report

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>>14048758
what's it like to fart in one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:06:15 No.14049232 Report

Quoted By: >>14049237 >>14049240

>>14049227
Lol, so you agree that medicine can people from getting or being sick but you are just mad that companies profit off of medicine?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:07:20 No.14049237 Report

Quoted By: >>14049265

>>14049232
you faggots never produce cures. all you have are shit treatments that line your pockets. you haven't cured a thing and have no intention to.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:08:27 No.14049240 Report

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>>14049232
>the medical jew cries out in pain as he strikes you

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:08:50 No.14049242 Report

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>>14049230
Are there other studies that show higher rates of heart disease? I remember reading much more pessimistic shit on here.
>every case of myocarditis observed in the vaxxed cohort is benign
How is it possible for heart disease to be benign?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:11:19 No.14049245 Report

Quoted By: >>14049273

>>14049230
there are far more things to point out with your rushed vaxxes than myocarditis. that was just the first thing that appeared so far. it hasn't even been a year, we have yet to see the rates of cancer between vaxxers and non-vaxxers. antibiotics have been shown to increase cancer risk but that appears years down the line.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:18:30 No.14049265 Report

Quoted By: >>14049275 >>14049294

>>14049237
Most "cures" you'd get from pharma would require genetic engineering, which humanity will certainly be able to accomplish someday. If you have a disorder caused by genetics, the only way to permanently fix it is to fix the genes themselves otherwise you will constantly have to treat the issue that the genes are causing. After the huge schism in society over something as simple as an mRNA vaccine, I doubt you'll ever see a "cure" in your lifetime. Many pharma companies are actively working on curing diseases, there has been promising recent progress on curing Type I diabetes, strong results on an HIV cure, etc. Let's not forget antibiotics, either, which save lives and don't require life-long use. Pharma companies are shitting out money trying to treat and even cure cancer, alzheimers, etc, diseases which cause the highest amount of illness-related deaths in many countries.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:20:25 No.14049273 Report

Quoted By: >>14049294

>>14049245
>it was the first thing that appeared so far
No it wasn't. First it was the mRNA itself, which people immediately latched to. Amazing how much fear you can strike into people with 0 science education. Funny how nobody shit on J&J for delivering DNA for the spike protein, which is confirmed to be delivered to the nucleus from the outset. I guess that one takes a lot more explaining, you'd probably lose the attention of the people you're trying to convince.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:21:05 No.14049275 Report

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>>14049265
HIV? shill, drink bleach

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:28:21 No.14049294 Report

Quoted By: >>14049301 >>14049308

>>14049265
lmao, mrna vaxxes are what you call genetic engineering? "oh look guise if we put mrna inside the cell they will make proteins" such science i am truly amazed. lmao pathetic. and most antibiotics are decades old before you faggots became solely about the money. you faggots claim to want to cure things but that is an obvious cash grab for gullible donations.

>>14049273
they were right to as mrna vaccines have been a failure till this pandemic when suddenly it worked. translation has a high error rate which can produce proteins that cause all sorts of issues as they float about in the cytosol. inb4 "oh but it packages it to the membrane every time, no need to worry. ah yes biology works out perfectly every time." uhuh. your entire thing was based on best case scenario models, that fail to account for how wrong they can be. ffs, we couldn't even get protein folding figured out for decades. only recently were we able to get to 80% accuracy. and guess what? that wasn't pharma but cs. biofags are the brainlets of stem, no one with more than 2 neurons to rub together trusts you faggots.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:33:27 No.14049301 Report

Quoted By: >>14049328

>>14049294
No, mRNA vaccines are not genetic engineering, but many people have claimed that they are and many people refuse to get the vaccine because they believe it will change their DNA. That should be a barometer for how the public would perceive a legitimate genetic engineering therapeutic.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:36:32 No.14049308 Report

Quoted By: >>14049328

>>14049294
>mRNA translation has a high error rate which can produce proteins that cause all sorts of issues as they float about in the cytosol
You realize your body creates mRNA for literally every single protein it makes, right? That's how translation works. Why is life even able to exist with all of these rogue proteins, as you describe? BTW, I'm not a biologist or a biochemist.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:37:04 No.14049313 Report

Quoted By: >>14049325

>>14049230
>After the huge schism in society over something as simple as an mRNA vaccine
All they had to do was keep the integrity of their clinical trials, and provide full transparency. Instead, they had unblinded all of the semi-large scale RCTs of these mRNA injectables. Now all we have is observational data to go off of, so we may never know the true safety and efficacy of the mRNA injectables. There was one chance to do it right, and they fucked it up to make a few billion in the short-term. The constant lying about "the science" and censorship of anyone who dares to challenge the sanctity of the sacred injections certainly does not help the situation.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:39:12 No.14049323 Report

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>>14048758
It is probably a good idea to wear some PPE to protect you from jab shedding. You want to use protease enzymes to clean up lingering spike from the infected. Luckily your laundry detergent is likely to have them already. You should wash your suit with warm water and laundry detergent before you remove it.
Rinse and clear you nasal passage. If you fucked a vaxcattle dip a q-tip in bleach and punch your dickhole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:39:24 No.14049325 Report

Quoted By: >>14049345 >>14049399

>>14049313
>All they had to do was keep the integrity of their clinical trials
I saw anti-mRNA posts well before they offered the vaccines to the control groups, want to try again? Sorry, but the anti-vaxx sentiments began the moment the vaccines began to be developed. COVID conspiracies have always been wrapped in an anti-authority frame, and vaccines were sucked into the frame as soon as stay-at-home and mask mandates became a thing.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:39:46 No.14049327 Report

Quoted By: >>14049338 >>14049352 >>14049382 >>14049385

>>14049230
>myocarditis observed in the vaxxed cohort is benign and the health issues from getting COVID are much more numerous and severe, but they are not arguing from a rational or real stance to begin with.

I am double vaxxed, but there is no fucking way your corporate shilling, or any force on earth is making me get the 3rd dose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:40:43 No.14049328 Report

Quoted By: >>14049385

>>14049301
well with faggots like you steering the ship they are right to be suspicious. there is no doubt that genetic engineering can better people's health but such techniques would be made by people who aren't big pharma drug dealers. there is no real incentive to cure people, your incentive is to keep people barely alive on drugs so you can plunder their or the taxpayer's wallets.

>>14049308
you mean proteins that have been selected by evolution over thousands of years? yes i know mrna transcripts are made then translated for those naturally. ad guess what? they do fuck up from time to time too. but at least there has been thousands of years of selection i can rely on, not some faggot with software that can barely fold alpha helices.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:40:50 No.14049331 Report

Quoted By: >>14049385

shills talk to themselves lol

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:42:04 No.14049338 Report

Quoted By: >>14049385 >>14049387

>>14049327
>corporate shilling
I don't own any pharma stock, nor do I work for any company that makes or contributes to COVID vaccines or any other vaccines. Do whatever you want with your body, I am just speaking as to what informed my decision to get my initial shot (J&J) and my Pfizer booster. I also have reduced lung capacity due to a congenital disease, so why the fuck would I want to risk a severe COVID infection?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:43:54 No.14049345 Report

Quoted By: >>14049385

>>14049325
anti-vaxx sentiments were right when the whole industry was hijacked by the biggest purveyor of malware in human history.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:44:52 No.14049352 Report

Quoted By: >>14049359 >>14049385 >>14049387

>>14049327
Laugh at this antivaxxer guoys. Look how dumb he is. It is okay if you don't want to be vaccinate,d just don't go to the hospital when you are sick. Fucking even your god Trump tells you to get vaccinated and you won't.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:45:41 No.14049359 Report

Quoted By: >>14049385

>>14049352
blumpf is a deep state plant, this is known.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:52:05 No.14049382 Report

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>>14049327
take the boosters

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:53:14 No.14049385 Report

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>>14049359
>>14049352
>>14049345
>>14049338
>>14049331
>>14049328
>>14049327

MANDATORY VACCINATION DAY! OH EVERYONE LINE UP AND GET THE MULTIVAXX TM BY PFIZER!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:53:55 No.14049387 Report

Quoted By: >>14049394 >>14049397

>>14049338
Your posts literally read like you are under contract at Pfizer Marketing

>>14049352
>doesn't address the point of my post
>"le trump supporter lolol"
Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:55:43 No.14049394 Report

Quoted By: >>14049395 >>14049403 >>14049414

>>14049387
Listen faggot I don't work for the shitty company Pfizer, take your fucking schizo meds. Hope HR doesn't read this post lol.

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:56:17 No.14049395 Report

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>>14049394
stay the fuck home

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:56:44 No.14049397 Report

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>>14049387
He's obviously trolling, and his post is extremely low quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:58:12 No.14049399 Report

Quoted By: >>14049464

>>14049325
>People were skeptical when there was even less evidence
This has to be bait

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:58:40 No.14049402 Report

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>>14048758
there is no option but to get the jab, everything else is outlawed

https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsource:9/RFNS-5.21-001-026:0

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 00:58:49 No.14049403 Report

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>>14049394
You need the Omicron variant booster.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:01:49 No.14049414 Report

Quoted By: >>14049426

>>14049394
shill telling it is not shill, just troost me bto

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:05:04 No.14049426 Report

Quoted By: >>14049767

>>14049414
>Damned if you do, damned if you don't
This is actually paranoia and you should seek psychiatric help

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 01:16:27 No.14049464 Report

Quoted By: >>14049738

>>14049399
People were forming conclusions when there was nothing to base them on in the first place. Do you have a cognitive deficiency?

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Anonymous Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:29:21 No.14049738 Report

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>>14049464
>People were forming conclusions when there was nothing to base them on in the first place.
sounds familiar. only something those antivaxxers would do, not the scientific commun... oh wait.

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Viruses don't exist Mon 03 Jan 2022 02:34:09 No.14049767 Report

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>>14049426
shill, technically paranoia is fear of "infection" which was never proven.

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