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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 20:17:22 2021 No.14030052 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14030079 >>14031133 >>14031983 >>14034117 >>14035154

>muh superposition
>cat is both dead and alive at the same time until observed
Is this something that scientists really believe in or this is just some kind of theoretical construct used for methodology?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 20:22:47 No.14030079 Report

Quoted By: >>14030088 >>14031156 >>14031164

>>14030052
No, it's not dead and alive, that's the point. The point is that your observation entangles with the system and determines whether it's dead or alive. Unfortunately you can't be undead.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 20:24:30 No.14030088 Report

Quoted By: >>14030137 >>14031039

>>14030079
>your observation entangles with the system and determines whether it's dead or alive
Have you heard of object permamence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 20:33:15 No.14030134 Report

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quantum theory is more like quantum literary criticism
it isn't science
it's this silly childish game like postmodernism or deconstructionism

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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 20:34:52 No.14030137 Report

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>>14030088
>I want to fight with Buddhists
go to /lit/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 00:10:09 No.14031039 Report

Quoted By: >>14033012

>>14030088
>Up until 3 months of age, infants have no sense of object permanence.
What implications does this have? What were you trying to say?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 00:31:15 No.14031133 Report

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>>14030052
Quantum mechanics is "if you can't see it fuck knows what's going on with it". It doesn't correspond with definite physical processes; it's a statistical framework to predict the movements of things too small to measure directly.

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Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 00:37:27 No.14031156 Report

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>>14030079
>You can't be undead
Define life and death

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 00:38:38 No.14031164 Report

Quoted By: >>14031250

>>14030079
How the fuck did Helen Keller Observe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 01:01:32 No.14031250 Report

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>>14031164
Helen Keller was a quantum being

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Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 05:10:54 No.14031983 Report

Quoted By: >>14031985

>>14030052
shcrodinger made this paradox in an attempt to mock philosophers because he believed the universe is purely deterministic
he once said god would make a non deterministic world and einstein told him to stop telling god what to do
the quantum physics was discovered proving him wrong (until we figure out what actually causes quantum)
and now dumb philosophers use schrodingers cat as yet another one of their meaningless thought experiments.
poor schrodinger :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 05:11:56 No.14031985 Report

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>>14031983
god wouldnt* make a non deterministic universe

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Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 12:13:31 No.14033012 Report

Quoted By: >>14033019

>>14031039
Physicists have no sense of object permamence so they come up with retarded ideas like superposition

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Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 12:15:12 No.14033015 Report

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Cat is both not god and god, and the cat has a perspecitive

WHy dead or alive? - that's somewhat barbaric but they might have seen too much death

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 12:17:19 No.14033019 Report

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>>14033012
particles also seem to have no sense of permanence because the fuck off when you arent looking

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 17:58:58 No.14034117 Report

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>>14030052
It's on the level of coping because one doesn't like one's own face in the mirror. If the cat can be alive and dead at the same time, you can be yourself but not yourself at the same time. Yea! Coping hard boys!

What counts as an "observer?" Why does an observer need to be present for an event to happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Dec 2021 21:21:38 No.14035154 Report

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>>14030052
It's obvious bullshit; the cat would observe itself.

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