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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 13:29:26 2021 No.14028275 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14028295 >>14028306 >>14028356 >>14028412 >>14028496 >>14028743 >>14028829

>Life is not a simulation
>Somehow, there is a speed limit
>Somehow, there is a smallest length possible
>Somehow, time and space "started"
Sounds like computational limits to me.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:32:45 No.14028291 Report

Quoted By: >>14028310 >>14028396 >>14028847

>Sounds like computational limits to me.
What is it with bugpeople and trying to explain everything in terms of muh compooter? If I have children, I will make sure they have no access to a computer until they're older.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:35:02 No.14028295 Report

Quoted By: >>14028316

>>14028275
Computational limits exist because of physical limits, not vice versa. Your implication is that there are no physical limits in ur-reality, so there should be no computational limits either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:39:02 No.14028306 Report

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>>14028275
>Somehow, time and space "started"
This is just your consciousness becoming activated. And yes your brain is similar to computer but maybe you’ve got a divine spark in there also

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:40:20 No.14028310 Report

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>>14028291
because their mind is absolutely tiny and they never think to ask what's beyond the computer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:44:28 No.14028316 Report

Quoted By: >>14028321 >>14028324

>>14028295
Maybe stop your brain from making up hidden implications and deal with what I said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:45:50 No.14028321 Report

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>>14028316
>deal with what I said
What you said is that your tiny mind sees the compooter in anything. When all you have is a hammer...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:46:33 No.14028324 Report

Quoted By: >>14028360

>>14028316
It doesn't matter whether it's hidden or opaque, it's still logically invalid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:55:19 No.14028356 Report

Quoted By: >>14029180

>>14028275
Why are midwits literally enthralled by the idea of simulation? I mean, the idea of an ancestor simulation is very interesting, but just a regular simulation is fucking stupid because it epistemically changes nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 13:56:17 No.14028360 Report

Quoted By: >>14028383 >>14028464 >>14028548 >>14028569 >>14028807

>>14028324
No, why would physical limits exist if this world is not simulated? There should be no limit in some universe that is not simulated. Physical limitations to speed were explainable. Matter disintegrated into energy, but once you get limits of length, then you're beyond explainability. It is a hard limit on length baked into reality, which is evidence it is a simulation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:02:29 No.14028374 Report

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Why not simulate a smaller Universe? Because we don't know what's outside the simulation and scales may vary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:04:24 No.14028383 Report

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>>14028360
Because if ur-reality isn't physically limitless, according to you it's probably a simulation. But if it is physically limitless, any simulation it produces wouldn't have any limits in the first place.

1. Computational limits are physical limits
2. Simulations can be arbitrarily complex if there are no computational limits
Conclusion: Limited simulation = limited physics; limitless simulation = limitless physics

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:07:38 No.14028396 Report

Quoted By: >>14029251

>>14028291
>What is it with bugpeople and trying to explain everything in terms of muh compooter?
Ironically but they're NPCs. Every century has their own trends that people use it to redefine the universe they live in. In the 17th century precision clocks became the next thing, and people were talking about "the clockwork" perfection of the universe etc.,

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:12:29 No.14028412 Report

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>>14028275
Saying life is a simulation is just a non-theistic way of saying god did it. Just because we don't have the capability to understand light speed or planck limits doesn't mean there is no explanation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:23:54 No.14028464 Report

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>>14028360
Your presupposition is:
If simulated, then limited
This isn't an absolute truth, this is true only because simulations are limited by physical limits

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:32:04 No.14028496 Report

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>>14028275
Smallest lenght is bs made up by us.
Beginning of time and space is questionable to say the least.
Speed limit is real, but Universe would be a shitshow without it so yeah, probably the limit is the reason why we can have this conversation at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:34:05 No.14028505 Report

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life is bs
there is no life
only heresy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:42:20 No.14028548 Report

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>>14028360
FYI the word you are looking for is "discrete", not limitless. Talking about no limits makes your post /x/ territory. Logically, anything with any kind of complexity (as opposed to singularities, or nothing) also needs to have limitations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 14:45:57 No.14028569 Report

Quoted By: >>14028742

>>14028360
>It is a hard limit on length baked into reality, which is evidence it is a simulation.

Why was I created in a simulation with such gigantic morons as NPC? Can this be reset and restarted with AIs that resemble intelligence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:31:20 No.14028742 Report

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>>14028569
>Can this be reset and restarted with AIs that resemble intelligence?
Nope. Stupidity is the one real constant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:31:47 No.14028743 Report

Quoted By: >>14028754

>>14028275
>Somehow, there is a speed limit
You can accelerate as long as you like.
>Somehow, there is a smallest length possible
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:35:20 No.14028754 Report

Quoted By: >>14028776 >>14028785

>>14028743
There's a smallest length you can measure, and measurement is a physical interaction, so there's a smallest scale on which you can have any crisp idea of a physical interactions, but that's assuming quantum meme theory is faultless and accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:42:28 No.14028776 Report

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>>14028754
doubt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:45:09 No.14028785 Report

Quoted By: >>14028793

>>14028754
my suspicion is that this is some anti-science theory, not a scientific theory
if you have links to experiments demonstrating this, then post links
otherwise it's just your pet magic system a.k.a. mathematical explanation of your meta-physical prejudices

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:46:16 No.14028793 Report

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>>14028776
>>14028785
>t. retarded seether
I never said you have to accept the reasoning behind Planck lengths. Go ahead and prove it wrong, I guess. I'm not a theoretical physicist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:47:23 No.14028796 Report

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Do you even know how a computer works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:51:09 No.14028807 Report

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>>14028360
>No, why would physical limits exist if this world is not simulated?
You ever seen a non simulated world without physical limits? You ever seen a non simulated world? You're an idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:56:39 No.14028829 Report

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>>14028275
There is no speed limit. You can travel faster than light from your perspective. It's only for other people that you seem to approach celerity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 15:59:46 No.14028847 Report

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>>14028291
I just wanna say, great basedjak! It's not often that you see a high-quality png fresh out of the editor.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 16:03:08 No.14028866 Report

Quoted By: >>14028871

>>14028847
It's been around for a while.
/qa/ was the board that made the freshest 'jaks until admins shut it down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 16:03:58 No.14028871 Report

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>>14028847
>>14028866
I confirm that I am not the author of this exquisite soijak. I am merely a collector.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 17:14:18 No.14029180 Report

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>>14028356
For the same reason christcucks believe in heaven. They *want* to believe there is more to this world and so they just say "this world is not real, there is a superior plane of existance/a superior entity controlling us".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Dec 2021 17:33:06 No.14029251 Report

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>>14028396
as steam power proliferated, psychological theories dealing with the accumulation and release of pressure suddenly grew quite popular

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