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US Hypersonic Missile Fails Anew in Third Trial

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 21:29:02 2021 No.14006198 View Reply Original Report

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Meanwhile China and Russia are testing hypersonic missiles regularly. What went wrong with US engineering?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 21:29:31 No.14006200 Report

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https://www.thedefensepost.com/2021/12/20/us-hypersonic-missile-fails-trial/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 21:30:50 No.14006205 Report

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>>14006198
Probably contractors, the most dangerous grifters in America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 21:46:09 No.14006271 Report

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>>14006198
That's because the US doesn't have enough diversity (strength) in their military research divisions. I recommend firing all white men and bringing in some Samoans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 21:55:40 No.14006310 Report

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>>14006198
Risk is bad, therefore over engineer, therefore longer development time, therefore higher cost, therefore less development, therefore less verification, therefore more risk

El Arcón

El Arcón Fri 24 Dec 2021 22:11:39 No.14006351 Report

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>hater's karma collapsed the wavefunction

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 22:15:36 No.14006363 Report

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>>14006198
US has generally speaking been behind in missile tech to russia and china because missiles like these are defensive and reactive weapons which china or russia needs to defend itself against USA while USA needs to focus on offensive weapons such as precision guided weaponry to attack middle east. Different goals, different results.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 22:32:25 No.14006429 Report

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>>14006363
Hypersonic missiles aren't necessarily purely defensive. You can BTFO a carrier group with a dozen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 22:37:15 No.14006450 Report

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>>14006271
Obviously we should stop designing our own missiles and just buy them from China so we can spend the R&D money on our core competency - reparations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 22:38:10 No.14006453 Report

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>>14006205
GOOD PAYING UNION JOBS

https://www.wmar2news.com/news/local-news/im-going-to-create-good-paying-union-jobs-president-biden-talks-infrastructure-bill-during-port-of-baltimore-visit

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 22:46:29 No.14006489 Report

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>>14006198
all science research budgets spent on jwst.
turns out usa didn't have infinite financial resources like the scientists at nasa had assumed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 22:48:58 No.14006504 Report

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>>14006198
>https://www.thedefensepost.com/2021/12/20/us-hypersonic-missile-fails-trial/
"The AGM-183A ARRW hypersonic missile is designed to propel to a designated altitude and release an unpowered hypersonic boost-glide vehicle, approaching targets at more than Mach 5."

I would suggest software issues because the control system for a launch to mach 5 and then release of an intelligent mach 5 glide bomb payload to target must be a nightmare.
So one fucks up on simple things as the initial release because you're still figuring out and behind on the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 23:12:33 No.14006588 Report

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>>14006429
Yes which is a defensive action vs a carrier group which is an offensive weapon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 23:17:02 No.14006609 Report

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>>14006198
Welcome to no longer being a superpower yankees

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 01:27:12 No.14006977 Report

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>>14006588
Carrier groups can be deployed offensively, like against Iraq; or defensively, such as around our steadfast and democratic allies, the Republic of China:^)

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Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 03:15:18 No.14007251 Report

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>>14006198
>in 2009 the US successfully tests an air-breathing hypersonic vehicle, pushing the boundaries of our understanding of aerodynamics
>12 years later China and Russia cobble together 1950s-tier ballistic missiles that bounce off the atmosphere

Oooo, so scary. Hypersonic weapon hype is driven 50% by Chinese and Russian state propaganda and 50% by the US MIC begging for more money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 06:19:07 No.14007680 Report

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>>14006363
>focus
I dont think focus is the biggest factor in what any of these countries are developing.

The US military is crazy wealthy compared to Russia and China. It can focus on everything at once with a budget its size.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 06:34:40 No.14007704 Report

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>>14006489
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 06:50:04 No.14007718 Report

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>>14006271
NRA says it's not enough guns, we need more shootouts at the designing and manufacturing sites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 06:54:19 No.14007724 Report

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>>14006489
>10 bn in 25 years
nickel-and-dime stuff compared to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

El Arcón

El Arcón Sat 25 Dec 2021 07:04:36 No.14007745 Report

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>>14006489
07:20 EST launch

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Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 07:21:33 No.14007770 Report

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>>14006198
ARRW is the only air launched hypersonic, neither Russia or China have one. All three countries have surface launched hypersonics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 08:21:19 No.14007856 Report

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>>14006198
golly gee I guess we better give the mic more money in the next budget

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 08:34:21 No.14007886 Report

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>>14006198
>China
I still don't believe China actually did this. I'm 90% convinced it's a chink psyop, all they had to do was plant the idea with a couple of journos and bam! Suddenly everyone believes that China successfully developed a hypersonic missile, despite there (AFAIK) being no actual evidence of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 10:35:59 No.14008188 Report

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>>14007886
this is cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 11:01:32 No.14008294 Report

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>>14008188
Nah, I just don't buy chink propaganda as easily as some.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 11:31:42 No.14008473 Report

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>>14006198
arent they useless?

>incredibly high speed at low altitude means immense heat detectable from orbit
>arrival time no faster than of normal icbms

I feel like its just another propoganda machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 13:43:11 No.14010458 Report

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>>14007770
Retard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 13:44:59 No.14010464 Report

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>>14007886
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-ZF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 16:30:59 No.14011165 Report

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>>14006363
>US has generally speaking been behind in missile tech to russia and china
/sci/ is really the lowest IQ board

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 16:50:39 No.14011270 Report

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>>14007886
Russia probably had some magic pixie dust metallurgy from the Soviet era that the Chinks got their hands on which made it possible to create reliable hypersonic missiles.

It's one of the few areas in material science the US is rather out handily beaten by Russia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 17:15:58 No.14011393 Report

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The US military knows politics. They show a couple failed tests and suddenly congress gives them money. Don't think for a second that Russia and China don't continue to have hypersonic failures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 08:47:37 No.14014173 Report

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>>14010458
Kinzhal is an air launched ballistic missile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 08:57:42 No.14014192 Report

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>>14006198
Shitty contractors that only care about money

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 08:59:02 No.14014194 Report

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>>14007718
shootouts happen with mostly illegal/stolen hand guns though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 19:18:43 No.14015747 Report

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>>14006198
>Test hypersonic vehicule
>It fails
>Don't go back to the drawing board, just hotfix it
>Test again
>It fails
>We are probably at the 4th iteration at least

Ah, the spaceX way I see. Except spaceX does it with a well-understood technology.
You aren't going to convince me doing a test every 6 months is the smart way of doing it instead of being rushed desperation.

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