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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 03:47:23 2021 No.13985653 View Reply Original Report

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>Ate bad food a few months ago
>Was farting and shitting for like 3 days
>It's better now but I fart and shit very frequently

Tell me how the fuck I fix my gut biome? Do I just fast for 7 days and then flood my gut with probiotics? This shit is getting on my nerves. I don't care that this is /sci/, half the threads here are shit. Help me.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 03:51:14 No.13985660 Report

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>>13985653
whole psyllium husks

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 03:54:08 No.13985665 Report

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>>13985653
probably not necessary to fast for seven days, maybe 24 hours and then slowly ramp up calorie intake with probiotic foods and avoid red meat

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 03:56:27 No.13985674 Report

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>>13985653
I've had pretty good luck with a brand called 'RAW' probiotics. Expensive but they seem to work You'll need to take them like 2-3 times a day for the whole bottle.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 04:20:27 No.13985754 Report

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>>13985653
Probiotics are largely a scam. At best, you're wasting your money. At worst, you're actively delaying microbiome reconstitution. Our understanding of the effects of fasting on the gut flora is still murky. Different disease and animal models seem to indicate different outcomes. If you want to unfuck your guts, eat more veggies and less junk food.

Turns out the last 10 years of cutting edge microbiome and nutrition research seems to be agreeing with what grandma has been saying this whole time.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 04:35:22 No.13985808 Report

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>>13985653
It's called gastroenteritis

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:09:35 No.13985914 Report

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this happened to me like 17 years ago after a bad food poisoning incident and it still hasn't gone away lol

stupid bacteria/protozoa

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:12:52 No.13985921 Report

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>>13985754
>>13985914
and for what it's worth, I'm a lifelong vegetarian and don't eat junk food. it's probably a necessary but not sufficient condition for good heal

that PDF is interesting though. I keep hearing how miraculous fecal transplants are and wonder if it might fix my problems

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:14:57 No.13985928 Report

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>>13985653
Water and vodka for 4 days straight.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:16:31 No.13985935 Report

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>>13985754
>>13985914
and for what it's worth, I'm a lifelong vegetarian and don't eat junk food

that PDF is interesting though. I keep hearing how miraculous fecal transplants are and wonder if it might fix my problems

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:27:05 No.13985959 Report

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If you haven't already, you could try eating some yogurt, kombucha, anything with live bacteria

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:29:02 No.13985968 Report

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>>13985653
took these after my antibiotics medication was over, fixed gut problems in a few days

https://www-yliopistonverkkoapteekki-fi.translate.goog/Maitohappobakteeri?_x_tr_sl=fi&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fi

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:40:36 No.13986012 Report

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>>13985914
>>13985921
>this happened to me like 17 years ago after a bad food poisoning incident and it still hasn't gone away lol
Ah. I presumed that this was an acute case and that the foodborne incident was recent.
If your gut issues and the infection are linked, then that paper is less relevant to you. Longterm effects on microbiome turnover aren't understood yet.

>and for what it's worth, I'm a lifelong vegetarian and don't eat junk food. it's probably a necessary but not sufficient condition for good heal
This is good. Diet and nutrition accounts for something like >60% of the variance in microbiome composition and function.

> keep hearing how miraculous fecal transplants are and wonder if it might fix my problems
Fecal microbiome transplants (FMTs) do work wonders, but under limited circumstances. They've had mixed results in chronic diseases like Crohns and IBD. That paper shows that autologous FMTs, stool samples taken from the patient back when they were healthy, had the fastest recovery times. In the future, the wealthy will likely biobank their poop so they'll have samples ready for them in case they get sick with C. diff or some other nasty enteric bug. We still don't really know why FMTs work.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 07:41:16 No.13986394 Report

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>>13986012
so does the transplant take place by sticking poop up your butt?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 07:52:34 No.13986416 Report

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>>13985935
>I'm a lifelong vegetarian
lmao

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 07:59:55 No.13986435 Report

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>>13986394
Yes. The other way is a nasogastric drip.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 08:20:54 No.13986482 Report

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>>13986435
would it be extremely painful?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 08:22:20 No.13986488 Report

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>>13985653
Eat more plants and beans, regularly.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 08:52:00 No.13986569 Report

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>>13986482
From what I've been told, it's certainly not comfortable.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 12:32:27 No.13986978 Report

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>>13985935
First, look into theodinstore. Second, oil of oregano. You can find them in capsule form, Gaia is reputable for branding. Cavacrol and thymol have a notable impact on E. coli without impacting the Lactobacilli there the same way. Make sure you keep plenty of fluids down, maybe even having oat milk with the capsule. You might get a little reflux with it. Make sure that you're taking supplements, notably B vitamins, liposomal vitamin D, and potentially even iron if you need it (look into Proferrin). Microorganisms also use iron though, so just keep that in mind.
Probiotics are incredible, but the majority of what's available out there just isn't necessarily compatible for everyone. That, and a lot of brands are just expensive placebo (or expensive farts if it's doing you worse than better).

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 12:59:20 No.13987065 Report

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>>13986978
>theodinstore
I googled this and found a site selling home science experiment supplies (cell culture media and stuff). Is this what you meant?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 13:03:14 No.13987075 Report

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>>13985754
Does yogurt have this same effect or just the probiotic supplements?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 13:30:02 No.13987148 Report

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fpbp

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 13:32:08 No.13987153 Report

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>>13987065
Shit, I'm sorry. It was the-odin. It sounds like you made it there anyway. Go through the more information section and you can sort through some really interesting information. The founder performed a fecal transplant on himself, which isn't something that I would recommend, but it would give you insight into the experience.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 14:07:17 No.13987249 Report

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I eat Kimchi every day for my probiotics. I eat at least a tablespoon a day on a sandwich.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 14:10:31 No.13987259 Report

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>>13985653
Ivermectin

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 14:24:02 No.13987308 Report

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>>13987148
please explain how healthy consistent bowl and intestinal function is going to result in positive gut health

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 14:39:24 No.13987350 Report

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>>13987075
drink kefir instead, yogurt has shit microbiome

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 18:18:21 No.13988147 Report

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>>13986569
for you

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