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COVID heart problems vs vaccine heart problems

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 19:55:23 2021 No.13967169 View Reply Original Report

>everyone online keeps saying COVID has a 100x greater risk for developing heart problems compared to the vaccine
>can’t find any data for this in terms of young men
Are men aged 18-29 more likely to have heart problems from COVID or the vaccine? Help me out, I can’t find a single fucking answer to this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 19:58:28 No.13967174 Report

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>>13967169
one of those is real, trillions of human hours have been spent discussing which

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:00:20 No.13967183 Report

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>>13967169
>Are men aged 18-29 more likely to have heart problems from COVID or the vaccine? Help me out, I can’t find a single fucking answer to this.
All vaccines except for Moderna cause less heart problems than COVID in that age bracket. Every vaccine causes less adverse events than COVID.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:02:04 No.13967188 Report

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>>13967183
than what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:07:37 No.13967206 Report

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>>13967183
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:08:11 No.13967209 Report

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Take your second shot at a later date than the one you're given and you'll have almost entirely mitigated the possibility of myocarditis. Short interval between doses is the risk factor, not doses accumulating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:09:02 No.13967212 Report

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>>13967169
I caved in to the vax a month ago because I need to keep my job.

Been getting episodes of tightened chest. Only felt better after chugging natural blood thinners like ginger tea with every meal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:12:04 No.13967223 Report

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>>13967209
New for me. thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:22:18 No.13967251 Report

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>>13967169
>>can’t find any data for this
That's because there is none, the media is making shit up as they go

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:36:10 No.13967293 Report

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>>13967206
No link, 4crap thinks nature is spam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:38:53 No.13967299 Report

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>>13967293
put the doi

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:42:33 No.13967310 Report

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>>13967299
https://go.nature.com/31SRsVP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:45:30 No.13967322 Report

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>>13967169
the fact it hasn't been explicitly spelt out for different age groups, the fact they still don't bother to aspirate, and the fact that they are cancelling scientists and doctors who dispute the strategy while giving total immunity to the vax producers tells you everything you need to know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:46:31 No.13967324 Report

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>>13967169

>experts questioning the vaccine approach, safety, and stats
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475002100161X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxkb2yhdLiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zg1j7Zquoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sIWb9GTbbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ8t0qQ5R4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_5pL74EoA

>spike fucks with dna
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/2056/htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Unt03UBhbU

>vaccine increases ACS risk
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712
https://www.thecardiologyadvisor.com/home/topics/acs/acute-coronary-syndrome-acs-biomarkers-mrna-covid19-vaccine/

>aspiration & myocarditis connection?
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/is-faulty-injection-technique-behind-rare-clot-disorder-reported-post-covid-vaccination/ar-AALJ08S
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34406358/
https://jkms.org/DOIx.php?id=10.3346/jkms.2021.36.e223

>slowly admitting vaccines are not as safe as promised
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c737f540fd3ae5a6b170ceb80770c5e1906adb3f

>Reduced Antibody Responses to the Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 Vaccine after Recent Seasonal Influenza Vaccination?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3165229/

>Infection-enhancing antibodies have been detected in symptomatic Covid-19.
>Vaccine formulations lacking ADE epitope are suggested.
https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext

>LNP blood brain barrier
https://medium.com/microbial-instincts/concerns-of-lipid-nanoparticle-carrying-mrna-vaccine-into-the-brain-what-to-make-of-it-42b1a98dae27

>myocarditis in young dudes far higher than previously stated
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34849657/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1 (vaers data preprint)
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.121.056583

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Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:48:41 No.13967329 Report

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>>13967324
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9pnrOnA6lR4D/
mirror for first yt deleted link

why trust these people if they are actively censoring dissent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 20:51:41 No.13967343 Report

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>>13967329
Because it's just MAGA niggers searching for a new dissident topic after Trump is no longer prez.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 21:12:44 No.13967402 Report

Quoted By: >>13968727 >>13993223

>>13967293
>Myocarditis (<40)
I wish the data was narrowed down to only men 18-29. I still can’t tell if it’s worth it to get even Pfizer as a 25 year old guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 21:28:22 No.13967451 Report

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>>13967169
If you had an adverse reaction to the second dose, should you get a 3rd one? Or is covid definitely still worse? Seems like its better to take your chances and hide from civilization instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 21:35:36 No.13967468 Report

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>>13967169
I had extremely sharp pains in my heart shortly after being vaccinated. I thought I was going to die and the only thing that alleviated the pain was laying down. I'm not sure what a heart attack feels like but I would guess that was it. I still feel pain now about a week later whenever my heart gets above 90 beats per minute. I would go to the hospital but I don't have insurance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 21:38:23 No.13967476 Report

Quoted By: >>13981441

>>13967468
NAC, vitamin d, c, zinc

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Jesus Wed 15 Dec 2021 22:31:00 No.13967633 Report

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>>13967169
there's no covid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 22:40:13 No.13967665 Report

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>>13967324
>>vaccine increases ACS risk
This supplement seller is still doing the rounds?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 22:44:08 No.13967676 Report

Quoted By: >>13968026

>>13967293
>NOOOOOOOOO BUT I READ ONLINE SOMEONE GOT HEART PAIN 15 WEEKS AFTER THE SHOT
>CORRELATION==CAUSATION
they didn't even understand that viral infections make virus building blocks including spike proteins, and argued on the other hand that the vaccine spike proteins will kill everyone by september
what makes you think they understand this? every heart problem for the next 5 years will be blamed on a vaccine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 22:46:29 No.13967686 Report

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>>13967468
go to the fucking hospital and make certain they record you as an adverse event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 23:00:45 No.13967735 Report

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>>13967169
>the vaccine cannot have side effects
>it's not proved that the vaccine has side effects
>the vaccine does have side effects but covid also does this
I wonder what's next :^)

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Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 23:03:18 No.13967745 Report

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>>13967735
vaccine for the side effects

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 23:03:37 No.13967746 Report

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>>13967735
both vaccine and covid are the virus
there is no virus or vaccine just climate change

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Dec 2021 23:49:05 No.13967903 Report

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13967735
i'll take things that didn't happen for 10 cents, alex

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:10:24 No.13967954 Report

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Ffs can people stop fucking me around PLEASE. I don't understand vaccine science and don't work in medicine, which I'd need to do to discern who is lying to me as every study has a study contradicting it which in turn is contradicted by a study ad nauseum. Refutations of refutations for eternity.

Please help me. I don't want to hear bizarre conspiracies or government asslicking or some weird politicization of a disease and vaccine.

Please just tell me whether the vax is safer than the virus or not. I've had two Pfizers. They want to do boosters now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:15:24 No.13967967 Report

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>>13967954
the booster is the same formula

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:17:11 No.13967969 Report

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>>13967954
you've already had 2 shots so isn't this sort of redundant?
>Please just tell me whether the vax is safer than the virus or not
There isn't really a binary answer for this, it will depend on your age, general health, commodities etc.
In general the vaccine is safer than the virus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:18:27 No.13967977 Report

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>>13967969
>commodities
comorbidities, ffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:25:17 No.13967993 Report

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>>13967954
>Please just tell me whether the vax is safer than the virus or not.
First you need accurate data from the past year (probably doesn't exist), and then data for the next several years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:27:01 No.13967997 Report

Quoted By: >>13968047

>>13967954
You're clearly fucking retarded if you can't infer their malevolent (or at very best apathetic) attitude towards you. Simply based on their actions of censorship, cancellation, information control, removal of legal recourse, propaganda, and so on and so forth.

Just get the vaccine if you can't detect any of this, honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:41:15 No.13968026 Report

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>>13967676
as opossed to COVIDtards thinking any health condition or death is related to COVID? Yeah, you both can get fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:47:37 No.13968047 Report

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>>13967997
Those things would also make sense with a GENUINE dangerous virus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:47:47 No.13968048 Report

Quoted By: >>13968053

>>13967169
No one knows the risks of the vaccine. It's the risk of COVID in young men vs. the risk of untested corporate mystery juice. I know which risk I rather take.

Jesus

Jesus Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:49:23 No.13968053 Report

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>>13968048
there's no covid, shill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:51:26 No.13968062 Report

Quoted By: >>13968067

>>13967169
>Are men aged 18-29 more likely to have heart problems from COVID or the vaccine? Help me out, I can’t find a single fucking answer to this.
It's the same mechanism, now think for yourself, is it more likely to have problem from something that destroys your cells or something engineered not to do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:51:33 No.13968063 Report

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>>13968047
No. They indicate they fear free discussion and are not confident that the vaccine is as safe as they say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:52:37 No.13968067 Report

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>>13968062
It is not the same mechanism. Producing one protein from mRNA is not the same as the virus replicating in its entirety. And that is putting aside other exogenous shit in the vaccine like LNP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:54:15 No.13968074 Report

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>>13968067
>Producing one protein from mRNA is not the same as the virus replicating in its entirety.
Both will result in cell destruction.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 01:04:41 No.13968093 Report

Quoted By: >>13968119

Get boosted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 01:08:28 No.13968101 Report

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>>13968053
There is no Abrahamic god, kike.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 01:14:54 No.13968119 Report

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>>13968093
Conspiracy theorists can't argue against more lockdowns, considering previous vaccines don't protect against Omicron. We must lockdown again until everyone takes the boosters. Lockdowns Now!

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 02:24:38 No.13968308 Report

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>get injected
>face increased risk of heart problems
>still get covid anyways
>face increased risk of heart problems again
Do any anons have a good source for data on uninjected vs injected rates of heart issues upon infection? With variants with more spike mutations circulating, we should be on the lookout for vaccine-associated disease enhancement. This study from a few months ago shows that the injected face quite the risk of cardiovascular issues when they are inevitably infected.
https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n1931

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 02:37:27 No.13968351 Report

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>>13968119
Omicron LOL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 02:51:55 No.13968389 Report

Quoted By: >>13969457 >>13978687

>>13967209
How much later? I got my second dose 21 days later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 03:12:31 No.13968434 Report

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>>13967343
and so they should be pre-emptively banned because orange man bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 03:23:14 No.13968462 Report

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>>13968308
It will be years before those numbers are truly known.

Jesus

Jesus Thu 16 Dec 2021 03:26:38 No.13968476 Report

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>>13968101
there's no pandemic, shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 05:09:15 No.13968727 Report

Quoted By: >>13969469

>>13967402
It's 1 per 10 000 doses at that age, see table 2 of https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

If you're healthy it;s probably not worth it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 08:43:23 No.13969089 Report

Quoted By: >>13969400

Covid and the vaxx are both causing cardiovascular and neurological damage. They are both carriers of the highly toxic spike protein. The only winning move is to isolate yourself until the vaxxies and the coofers have gone extinct (2 more years).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:41:36 No.13969181 Report

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>>13968119
Previous vaccines AND natural immunity. Big difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:33:30 No.13969269 Report

Quoted By: >>13969423

>>13967169
Don't get the vaccine if you have allergies, people with hyperactive immune systems (allergies) will have their white blood cells attack their heart because heart proteins and vaccine spike proteins are similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 10:34:50 No.13969273 Report

Quoted By: >>13981441

>>13967468
Take Coq10 and aspirin to stay alive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:47:21 No.13969393 Report

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>>13967169
2.5x more risks form any vaccines thant positive covid test in that age group

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 11:50:20 No.13969400 Report

Quoted By: >>13970925

>>13969089
my friends got covid. None of them got cardiovascular or neurological damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:05:07 No.13969423 Report

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>>13969269
Got a source on that?
Also does this apply to any kind of allergy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:26:54 No.13969457 Report

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>>13968389
Papers say more than 56 days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:32:08 No.13969469 Report

Quoted By: >>13970922

>>13968727
The problem with this statement is
>if you're healthy
Too many people have died of Covid thinking they were healthy because they had an unknown medical condition. It's just not worth taking that risk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 19:56:17 No.13970922 Report

Quoted By: >>13971952

>>13969469
>too many
List the many 25 year old men who have died from COVID

Jesus

Jesus Thu 16 Dec 2021 19:56:56 No.13970925 Report

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>>13969400
bullshit. there's no covid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 01:06:59 No.13971952 Report

Quoted By: >>13974015

>>13970922
I know at least 420 personally

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 01:10:16 No.13971961 Report

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>>13967169
Lazy ngger, we are not making your scrub list. Do your own research.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 01:25:27 No.13972001 Report

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>>13967169
they are simply regurgitating a lie they heard someone else regurgitate
they are lying to you
they are coping

Dr. McCullough or whatever addressed this when he went on JRE recently. He cites a ton of shit when he talks so he might have for that as well. It's basically a different mechanism/problem and the vaccine is worse (duh).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 01:43:18 No.13972041 Report

Quoted By: >>13972043

>>13967293
So it does indeed cause more myocarditis in the sub 40yo group, both Pfizers BNT162 and Modernas mrna -1273. And keep in mind to treat 1st and 2nd dose cumulatively, thanks for the source anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 01:45:09 No.13972043 Report

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>>13972041
Nevermind, I was shifted by 1 row on the BNT162 one, it's slightly better than the covid test. Moderna though is pretty concerning, over twice the No. of events

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 01:46:41 No.13972050 Report

Quoted By: >>13972204 >>13985934 >>14007214 >>14007419

>>13967169
simple: covid problems are real and common
vax problems are mostly conspiracy theories, intentional fear mongering, and plain lies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 01:49:19 No.13972061 Report

Quoted By: >>13972067

Am I right in thinking in 2 weeks we should know if omicron is a nothingburger or actually deadly?

A third shot seems to be something that may help against Delta but not Omicron

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 01:53:13 No.13972067 Report

Quoted By: >>13972359

>>13972061
Based on S. Africa's data, looks like it's super contagious but probably mild. If the UK doesn't start seeing a major uptick in deaths within two weeks, then I think it's reasonable to assume it's not a significant danger.

Jesus

Jesus Fri 17 Dec 2021 02:53:31 No.13972204 Report

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>>13972050
there's no virus, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 03:41:17 No.13972348 Report

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>>13972204
Based redeemer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 03:45:33 No.13972359 Report

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>>13972067
The UK is jabbing everything that moves at the moment. Got to pollute the data!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 05:34:23 No.13972703 Report

Quoted By: >>13981479

>>13968047
Truth does not fear inquiry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 12:23:57 No.13973837 Report

Quoted By: >>13974048 >>13974051

>>13967293
taking "SARS-CoV-2 positive test" as a measurement here seems strange to me. this is still very likely to happen some time post vaccination, so all the bars just add up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 13:34:46 No.13974002 Report

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>>13967293
Woah that looks like shit, mate. Doesn't compare to inactivated virus or sub-protein, no stratification by age-group or sex. Pretty worthless for anyone who isn't a midwit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 13:41:09 No.13974015 Report

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>>13971952
Did you blaze them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 13:53:15 No.13974048 Report

Quoted By: >>13974051

>>13973837
The fact that they are still using old statistical sleight-of-hand techniques (positive COVID PCR =/= confirmed infection)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 13:54:16 No.13974051 Report

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>>13974048
>>13973837
*Submitted too fast

The fact that they are still using these old ways of cheating to inflate numbers just tells me that the academics reviewing this are pozzed

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Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 17:41:35 No.13974669 Report

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>>13967954
>Why won't other people tell me what to think in a better way than they already are!!!!
>I've had two Pfizer shots
I can't even fathom being such a soulless, spineless moron. Even illiterate innumerate thugs in the ghetto have a higher IQ and intuition. How embarrassing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 17:49:31 No.13974695 Report

Quoted By: >>13974699

If you're /sci/entifically literate and have had experience with modelling and/or data analysis, this video should be enough to convince you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 17:50:33 No.13974699 Report

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>>13974695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6umArFc-fdc&t=5s

Forgot link

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 18:16:02 No.13974786 Report

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>>13967954
Just take the booster hysterical faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 18:25:42 No.13974810 Report

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>>13967183
According to the CDC, who claims a fatality rate of less than 0.000001 for the vaccinated, but also says that gunshot wounds count as covid deaths.

They won't allow their data to be publicly audited but will endorse private corporations having access to private medical data of the unvaccinated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:12:18 No.13975627 Report

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>>13967169
its literally talked about in every covid thread

here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzVoS-1TIWI

Its higher than we thought, still not as high as covid

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Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:20:51 No.13975658 Report

Quoted By: >>13975676

Bros I used to dump and spam any and all red flag information relating to the vaccine that I could. Then I had a revelation; only people that actively seek out this information actually deserve it. Now I just tell the fence sitters to get the vaccine. If they are retarded enough to do it, they deserve whatever it does to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:25:08 No.13975672 Report

Quoted By: >>13990602

>>13967324

>spike fucks with dna
Deboonked, virtuall impossible for them to enter nucleus. They dont have the signature for nuclear retrotransport nor are there receptor mediated carriers or pores.
Same thing with the study where they fond sarscov2 reintegrates into human genome.

>LNP BBB fud
doesnt matter LNP goes away in under 5 hours, protonated by the cells acidic pH see ALC0315
some of the studies you posted are flawed, rest checks out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:26:32 No.13975676 Report

Quoted By: >>13975697

>>13975658
there WERE many redflags, they are gone now imo.
Boosters still have them though, why would you submit yourself to a risk every 6 months when the base immunity u got from the first shots should be enough to get well past an infection .

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:26:35 No.13975677 Report

Quoted By: >>13975700 >>13975821 >>13975870 >>13977512 >>13981707 >>13998701 >>14011945 >>14017161

If you think the vaccine causes even 1/100th of the heart problems that covid infection causes, then you deserve to catch covid. I only visit this board to laugh at the trolls and the conservative retards who fall for misinformation. It's the only thing that makes me happy. And so what if it's all foreign plot by Russian and China to divide this nation and get us to hate each other? They will pay when the global economy collapses and we go to war with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:32:51 No.13975697 Report

Quoted By: >>13977512 >>13978703

>>13975676
Fauci, the CDC, the UK, the Israeli government, the EU, China, and the Russian federation show that without the booster there is almost zero protection from the Omicron variant. Despite all of this, these are still the best vaccines that humanity has ever created and 20 years ago no one could have ever dreamed of how effective and advanced today's vaccine are.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:33:04 No.13975700 Report

Quoted By: >>13975715

>>13975677
>I only visit this board to laugh at the trolls and the conservative retards who fall for misinformation. It's the only thing that makes me happy. And so what if it's all foreign plot by Russian and China to divide this nation and get us to hate each other?
Being this deranged...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:35:44 No.13975715 Report

Quoted By: >>13975866

>>13975700
Post more embarrassing basedjaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 23:57:45 No.13975816 Report

Quoted By: >>13975863

>>13967169
you are literally not going to get a straight answer on a website of psychotic schizos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:00:23 No.13975821 Report

Quoted By: >>13975836

>>13975677
Hi spook how its going. Getting ready to psyop some kids?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:02:42 No.13975836 Report

Quoted By: >>13975871

>>13975821
Yep, that's my MO. I am psyop-ing your ass so hard right now. Your brain is like silly putty in my hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:07:44 No.13975863 Report

Quoted By: >>13975873

>>13975816
Better to ask sociopathic authoritarian politicians instead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:07:58 No.13975866 Report

Quoted By:

>>13975715
>Post more embarrassing basedjaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:08:57 No.13975870 Report

Quoted By:

>>13975677
Why don't you show proof instead of hysterical rants?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:09:01 No.13975871 Report

Quoted By:

>>13975836
Good. Enjoy your stay on this website

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:09:44 No.13975873 Report

Quoted By: >>13975976

>>13975863
Your worldview has no room for sane people in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:32:23 No.13975969 Report

Quoted By: >>13977515 >>13977698

>>13967183
I remember when there was no myocarditis / PF4 blood clotting and the vaccines were fully tested and 100% safe.

Now its "well its less dangerous than just getting covid" based on the fact cases are showing up, and only a fraction of people actually report adverse events.

What will it be in 1 year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 00:34:45 No.13975976 Report

Quoted By:

>>13975873
Your definition of sane is warped.

Jesus

Jesus Sat 18 Dec 2021 10:11:30 No.13977512 Report

Quoted By:

>>13975677
>>13975697
there's no covid, no virus, no pandemic. stop spamming globohomo disinformation, shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 10:19:23 No.13977515 Report

Quoted By: >>13987392

>>13975969
>What will it be in 1 year?
No one forced you to get it. We told you it was experimental, you even signed a waiver indicating that you understood this. Your life insurance is now invalid and your health insurance will require a extra premium because you subjected yourself, by choice, to an experimental treatment regime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 12:18:15 No.13977698 Report

Quoted By: >>13977737

>>13975969
They still lie
Below 40y old males the myocarditis risk is higher than covid anything, the data clearly says this
Yet they include alwyas 0 to 99 year olds when saying "duh catching covid is worse" well yeah since above 80 are in the statistic and females
When looking at only males below even 55y, the vaccines are even 2.5 times more dangerous tham getting covid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 12:39:51 No.13977737 Report

Quoted By: >>13977851 >>13978495 >>13978555 >>13978811 >>13981412 >>13987401 >>14019598

>>13977698
That doesn't make any sense. That's complete bullshit. Why would the risk of myocarditis from the vaccines be higher than actual covid infection, regardless of age bracket? This antivax narrative doesn't hold up to scrutiny. There's absolutely nothing in the vaccine itself that would be responsible for something that the actual virus itself wouldn't cause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 13:20:33 No.13977851 Report

Quoted By: >>13978262

>>13977737
>Why would the risk of myocarditis from the vaccines be higher than actual covid infection
Maybe way more people are vaxxed then getting ill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 16:06:16 No.13978262 Report

Quoted By:

>>13977851
That still wouldn’t explain it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 17:19:57 No.13978495 Report

Quoted By:

>>13977737
>Why would the risk of myocarditis from the vaccines be higher than actual covid infection, regardless of age bracket?
Because you get locked spike proteins in your bloodstream instead of basically no virus with spike protein in your blood, you fucking dumbass.
The virus is respiratory, it does not enter your blood, if it does you are dead anyway.

Also a reason why vax doesnt work is the virus replicates in the mucus membranes where there is no blood exchange.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 17:42:08 No.13978551 Report

Quoted By:

>>13968067
Is your mind sharp enough to reconcile that true information with the equally true information that the virus seldom enters the blood stream, staying in the respiratory tract (which is technically outside your body), whereas the vax due to malpractice or other mechanisms does so much more frequent? Are you able to apply the convolution to the spread x effected-area-danger x replication-rate functions and see that spread quickly becomes the dominant part that determines overall damage in some cohorts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 17:44:25 No.13978555 Report

Quoted By: >>13987657

>>13977737
>Why would the risk of myocarditis from the vaccines be higher than actual covid infection, regardless of age bracket?
Much higher chance of the spike protein reaching the blood stream after vaccination (nearly 100%). Fairly low chance of that happening with a mild covid infection, though the lungs are more at risk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:01:20 No.13978602 Report

Quoted By: >>13978640 >>13978934 >>13990876 >>13991278

Several people in my personal life who are young and fairly healthy have confided to me they are having heart pains after the vaccine (I told them not to get it). You should have seen their faces when I told them there is no fix and that they have an area in their body permanently shitting out damaging spike proteins to build up in their organs, one of them started to cry. I fucking TOLD them all this before though which is the funny thing.

Going to be a whole load of dead cunts from this, you will note the media already spinning the narrative that all these athletes dropping dead mid field from heart attacks is totally normal and this happens all the time (it doesn't)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:12:19 No.13978640 Report

Quoted By: >>13978670 >>13979188

>>13978602
>they have an area in their body permanently shitting out damaging spike proteins
Even as someone who is opposed to the vaccines, I don't think that's true. The production is probably limited to a few weeks, but the damage to the organs if they've been attacked by the immune system may last much longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:21:26 No.13978670 Report

Quoted By: >>13978709

>>13978640
Even if that's true, it might as well be indefinite when you are being compelled and coerced into 6 monthly boosters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:27:51 No.13978687 Report

Quoted By:

>>13968389
So exactly when you were supposed to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:32:10 No.13978700 Report

Quoted By: >>13986018 >>14003602 >>14004205

>>13967954
It's really easy. Are multiple countries with directly opposing ideologies and goals all deciding to agree to use the vaccine to harm people for reasons unknown? Does the government just decide to send everyone home for weeks with nothing to do but wonder if the government is a secret cabal trying to kill them? Do they think killing the most agreeable citizens or weakening them but not hte brave retards refusing the vax is smart?

Your answer to this decides what path you take.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:33:31 No.13978703 Report

Quoted By: >>13978717 >>14006880

>>13975697
>show that without the booster there is almost zero protection from the Omicron variant
This is also false information. Skipping the booster means you're more likely to catch it, but still many, many times less likely to go to the hospital than unvaxxed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:35:18 No.13978709 Report

Quoted By: >>13978721 >>13988791

>>13978670
Germany is offering boosters every four weeks now. The people who predicted this would become a monthly subscription seem to have been close to the truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:36:38 No.13978716 Report

Quoted By:

>”I survived covid with seemingly no heart damage”
>people say I should still get vaccinated because of the unknowns of natural immunity

So this is apparently the first virus in existence where natural immunity wears off quickly and it’s completely unreliable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:36:41 No.13978717 Report

Quoted By: >>13986026

>>13978703
Data sources please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:37:33 No.13978721 Report

Quoted By: >>13978725 >>13978729 >>13978772

>>13978709
>The people who predicted this would become a monthly subscription seem to have been close to the truth
ANd it's their fault.
>>oh I hate vaccines I won't take them. It'll never end!
They never get vax, licks public transit seats to 'own the libs'. Catch Covid. Covid only kills some of these dumb fucks, and it mutates. This could have been six weeks of lockdown but retards be retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:38:47 No.13978725 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978721
>ANd it's their fault.
They also predicted that the nonhuman vaxxoid would blame them for the predictable failures of corporate injections.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:39:39 No.13978729 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978721
>ANd it's their fault.
Didn't Omicron start in mostly unvaccinated Africa? Didn't Delta start in mostly unvaccinated India?

>Covid only kills some of these dumb fucks, and it mutates.
It can mutate in anyone it infects, but that's beside the point when there's billions who haven't been able to get vaccinated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:42:09 No.13978735 Report

Quoted By: >>13978784 >>14019574

>>13967293
You should mention that the myocarditis cases after vaccination are 95% super mild and disappear after two days of chilling, and that they mostly happen when the shit wasn't placed correctly and some stuff leaks into the blood stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:49:21 No.13978772 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978721
Yes these grossly over reaching tyrannical measures are happening because I chose not to comply with them. Makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:51:07 No.13978782 Report

Quoted By: >>13981441

>>13967468
>not going to a doc with heart pain
Fucking idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:51:16 No.13978784 Report

Quoted By: >>13980192 >>13981500

>>13978735
>mild myocarditis
>disappears

You guys need to update your operations manual. This post glows. No amount of Myocaridits is "mild" because ITS DEAD AND DAMAGED HEART TISSUE HOLY FUCK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 18:57:36 No.13978811 Report

Quoted By: >>13978831 >>13978842

>>13977737
>Why would the risk of myocarditis from the vaccines be higher than actual covid infection

There are countless reasons why it could happen but you obviously aren't interested in actual scientific reasonning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 19:02:07 No.13978831 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978811
Such as almost not a single nurse knowing you are meant to aspirate to make sure you don't direct deliver it to the bloodstream? Haha yeah...

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Sat 18 Dec 2021 19:05:03 No.13978842 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978811
irrelevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 19:30:57 No.13978934 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978602
>they have an area in their body permanently shitting out damaging spike proteins to build up in their organs
That sounds like bullshit. How can they keep growing spike proteins after the mRNA from the vaccine disappears?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 19:31:52 No.13978936 Report

Quoted By: >>13979036

>OMICRON

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 19:59:44 No.13979036 Report

Quoted By: >>13979050

>>13978936
That game was pretty weird, ngl. Imagine David Bowie in a Dreamcast game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 20:04:13 No.13979050 Report

Quoted By:

>>13979036
take us to the eeeeeedge of time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 20:44:39 No.13979188 Report

Quoted By: >>13981004 >>13981335

>>13978640
Nobody knows, mRNA means messengerRNA and there are hints that DNS incorporate this. That means it is replicated the rest of ones life. Looking at short term effects is misleading, usually side effects pops up were nobody think it is possible. Your experts are overconfident and maybe believe there own lies (two weeks, safe, only two jabs aso.) And endless chain of proofable incompetence. Me wonders how somebody can trust this experts showing they are dumb laymans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Dec 2021 21:23:43 No.13979330 Report

Quoted By: >>13980163

>>13967169
stop caring about averages. it's about you. if you're in good health and a professional told you that after multiple checks and analysis, and you feel good, and you don't remember being sick, and you live an healthy live, any vaccine will have more chances to cause you troubles.
fuck the communists telling you otherwise. don't listen to them, the same way you don't listen to people who don't have your expertise on a particular subject. those people don't know you. this is a political fight and the non passive minority always won historically.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 00:25:00 No.13980116 Report

Quoted By: >>13980319

>>13967169
Pharma jews created COVID to begin with. So in any case they are to blame for both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 00:39:54 No.13980163 Report

Quoted By: >>13980211 >>14012316

>>13979330
That's right. Everyone who is stuck living in the conservative fantasyland where vaccines are somehow more dangerous than the disease should just keep getting Covid over and over again until they die. I'm glad we agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 00:47:57 No.13980192 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978784
this, what the fuck are these retards smoking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 00:51:16 No.13980211 Report

Quoted By: >>13980315

>>13980163
These are not vaccines.
Real covid vaccines are either banned (Sinofarm) or dismissed as redundant (Valneva) by "expert" vaccine comitees.

Yes, I live in a corrupt globalist colony.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Sun 19 Dec 2021 01:15:56 No.13980315 Report

Quoted By: >>13980325

>>13980211
any injection is bullshit

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Sun 19 Dec 2021 01:16:58 No.13980319 Report

Quoted By:

>>13980116
they created only computer model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 01:19:13 No.13980325 Report

Quoted By: >>13980340 >>13986060

>>13980315
>being this afraid of needles
And you wonder why your betters have to make rules to prevent you from hurting yourself and others.

Viruses don't exist

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Viruses don't exist Sun 19 Dec 2021 01:21:51 No.13980340 Report

Quoted By: >>13990396

>>13980325
what's in the needle, faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 04:39:50 No.13981004 Report

Quoted By: >>13981539 >>13983663

>>13979188
mRNA breaks down quickly. It’s not going to keep making spike proteins for years after the injection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 06:48:21 No.13981335 Report

Quoted By:

>>13979188
Checked

mRNA is not used by vaxxines it is modRNA
Will be fun when DNA viruses start using modRNA too, unstoppable super duper viruses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 07:37:45 No.13981412 Report

Quoted By:

>>13977737
>There's absolutely nothing in the vaccine itself that would be responsible for something that the actual virus itself wouldn't cause.
U sure about that buddy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 07:56:46 No.13981441 Report

Quoted By: >>13987408

>>13967476
>>13967686
>>13969273
>>13978782
Im still alive, my heart still hurts. I refuse to go to a hospital and get raped with debt. This life isn't worth living anyway so I see no point in trying to preserve it. If I die then so be it. I won't be a component to their profiteering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 08:04:20 No.13981458 Report

Quoted By:

>>13967169
I am unvaccinated and have no heart problems. In fact, my cardiovascular health has only improved the past 3 years despite my flatlined obesity, due to regular exercise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 08:13:54 No.13981472 Report

Quoted By:

almost 2 weeks after my 1st moderna shot my chest hurts wtf bros 30 yo male here

tell me sci bros wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 08:17:53 No.13981479 Report

Quoted By:

>>13972703
Except concerns are based on faulty understanding of available data, and “inquiry” has been replaced with ignorant bleating which is impossible to address as it’s already based on ignoring the evidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 08:27:35 No.13981500 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978784
You’re confusing myocarditis with ischemia, friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 08:37:17 No.13981539 Report

Quoted By: >>13983647 >>13983713

>>13981004
Is this true or false?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 09:46:14 No.13981707 Report

Quoted By:

>>13975677
What a goy amarite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 18:52:06 No.13983338 Report

Quoted By: >>13983376 >>13983672 >>13984430 >>13984516 >>13985485

A new study published in Nature with a sample size of 38 million shows that for those under 40, Moderna poses a higher risk of heart problems than having COVID19. Just a matter of time before the same is found to be true of the other western vaccines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 19:01:07 No.13983376 Report

Quoted By:

>>13983338
Same for women and AZ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 20:01:39 No.13983647 Report

Quoted By:

>>13981539
Currently true because no dispute found. But that is not the whole Story. By Intention it alters cells to produce Spikes. Nobody knows what happens then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 20:04:48 No.13983663 Report

Quoted By: >>13983701 >>13985966

>>13981004
It will if you keep getting injections. Germany already has approved a four week cycle for injections. Given the hysteria over omicron, that injection schedule is likely to spread to other governments. If you're a government that's been pushing injections all along, you can't let the Germans appear to be more concerned about the virus that you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 20:07:27 No.13983672 Report

Quoted By: >>14018233

>>13983338
>A new study ...
The whole scientific mechanism is worthless because it unknown in science what will happen. It is delusianal to think something is controlled when you simpy don't know what is the outcome. The experts driving with high Speed in total fog and refuse to Break because of total self delusian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 20:11:11 No.13983701 Report

Quoted By:

>>13983663
>the Germans
Are known for society suicide for every dumb idea. Over here they obey and the gouverment ignores every warning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 20:13:17 No.13983713 Report

Quoted By:

>>13981539
Reverse transcriptase exists. And considering that the lipid nano particles are designed to keep their package unaltered and unload it in the cell, it is easy to imagine it could.
And that is only a known mechanism. As basically everything here is experimental, it will take years to fully understand.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 21:20:23 No.13984075 Report

Quoted By: >>13984442 >>13993088 >>14017862

>>13967954
Simple lifehack here fren, ask yourself this question:
>which side gets the most benefit out of lying to me?
And do the opposite of whatever it is that side is telling you to do. With this one simple trick I made up my mind regarding the vax before I even knew any of the finer details about it. Your welcome fren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 22:29:23 No.13984418 Report

Quoted By:

May all you jabbed cunts die asap

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 22:31:55 No.13984430 Report

Quoted By: >>13985320

>>13983338
NOOOO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 22:33:47 No.13984442 Report

Quoted By: >>13993088 >>13997343

>>13984075
you assume these retards are capable of pondering thoughts that don't fit into their programmed thinking Mold. These people are sub-human, nigger cattle who cannot think for themselves, rather they can only think in terms that they have though previously. most of which revolve around mindless repetition of ideas brought forth fro m authority, because teachers parented them. That being said, by all means wake up who you can. Anyone who knows/ notices the details at this point and still gets the vax is retarded beyond belief and addicted to daddy goobermints authority, they are drug addicts, but towards authority, these traitors deserve what they get, let them suicide for daddy goobermint. Even the pitiful masters they worship do not want them and look upon them with only scorn and disappointment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 22:46:26 No.13984516 Report

Quoted By: >>13987374

>>13983338
Can you source it? The most recent Nature study I found is only stating that only those under 40 have any increased risk of myocarditis, not that they're at greater risk than from COVID-19.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591
-021-01630-0
>The increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination was higher in persons aged under 40 years. We estimated extra myocarditis events to be between 1 and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Dec 2021 23:42:59 No.13984781 Report

Quoted By:

>>13967954
>They want to do boosters now.

And perhaps variant specific follow-up vaccines.

You have to learn to look beyond words and see intent. Ask yourself if the people saying these things profit from sickness or not. Don't believe the hype around people with degrees or titles, they're often more bluster than competence.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 01:22:32 No.13985270 Report

Quoted By: >>13988859

Own experience:
>have covid
>no vex
>measure heart rate every third day since testing negative
>like a fucking athlete
t. 32 and work in stressful conditions

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 01:36:15 No.13985320 Report

Quoted By:

>>13984430
(((rothenberg)))

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 02:18:52 No.13985432 Report

Quoted By:

>>13967209
Thanks for the informative tip, but I'll skip the heart associated conditions and take my chances with the non virus which hasn't effected me in my 2 years as a delivery driver during the most deadly pandemic in history.
I've never worn a mask, never vaccinated, constantly in contact with large groups of people and only wash my hands after I use a toilet, or if they're noticeably dirty. Bacteria keeps your immune system healthy and bolstered, you bloody snowflakes.

Honestly, the masse hypnosis experiment seems to have worked on the majority of people. But it was a nothingburger, you can wake up now, unless you prefer to continue over-reacting about a flu.

Honk Honk!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 02:29:40 No.13985459 Report

Quoted By: >>13985982

>>13967169
>Are men aged 18-29 more likely to have heart problems from COVID or the vaccine? Help me out, I can’t find a single fucking answer to this.
7 times more likely from the vaccine
https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceUncensored/comments/rhutsz/mortality_risk_of_vaccination_is_7_times_higher/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 02:39:27 No.13985485 Report

Quoted By:

>>13983338
you know what's funny?
>CDC recommends Pfizer, Moderna vaccines over Johnson & Johnson, citing rare blood-clot issue
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/16/johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-new-data-blood-clots-/

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Mon 20 Dec 2021 02:56:07 No.13985522 Report

Quoted By:

cold is just cold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 03:07:25 No.13985552 Report

Quoted By:

>>13967209
What about if I haven't taken the first shot yet?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:16:30 No.13985934 Report

Quoted By:

>>13972050
Prove it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:28:40 No.13985966 Report

Quoted By: >>13986194

>>13983663
>It will if you keep getting injections.
Meaning that your body won’t keep producing spike proteins in the absence of new science juice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:31:43 No.13985982 Report

Quoted By:

>>13985459
>reddit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:43:34 No.13986018 Report

Quoted By: >>13987695 >>13993095

>>13978700
It's really easy. Did Western media mainline apocalyptic fear porn into every face on the planet on an hourly basis? Did all of the governments immediately do a bunch of tyrannical shit to save face and quell that fear? Was it an election year and the opposing party, who is in control of most of the media, propagandize the shit out of everyone to oust the encumbent? Did Pfizer watch this and start seeing money signs? Did they rush a piece of untested shit out to the public, with zero regard for public safety because the federal government made them immune from prosecution?

Your answer to this decides what path you take.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:45:49 No.13986026 Report

Quoted By:

>>13978717
*crickets*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 05:56:17 No.13986060 Report

Quoted By: >>13986107

>>13980325
>hurr durr you're afraid of needles
You read that right off the script, Jew? I've been seeing it everywhere. GTFO, shill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 06:10:09 No.13986107 Report

Quoted By: >>13986115

>>13986060
>calls others jews
>posts jewish created space jew comic book character

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 06:12:26 No.13986115 Report

Quoted By:

>>13986107
It's hard to get away from in the US. My accusation stands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 06:36:01 No.13986194 Report

Quoted By: >>13986205

>>13985966
Meaning that without your monthly injections, you're an anti-vaxxer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 06:37:42 No.13986205 Report

Quoted By: >>13986232 >>13986385

>>13986194
So what? The point was that you don’t naturally keep producing spike proteins. I don’t care if people get vaccinated or not.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 06:46:29 No.13986232 Report

Quoted By: >>13986319 >>13986368 >>13997343

>>13986205
>so what?
The point is what's the point of being vaxxed if theres no social, health or monetary incentive. They'll inject you every 3 months, then what, you get another 3 months of being an approved citizen? What exactly are you sacrificing for this temporary boon. You don't get protection, you don't get exemptions from wearing the mask, all it means is that you get to keep your job or travel. So i ask you, would the people threatening to make you homeless do you harm? if the answer is "no because that makes me uncomfortable, you're just a retarded anti0vaxxerino" then by all means take every needle offered to you in the coming years. You will end up a pitiful mutant cancer boi with less than 5 years to live, a pigmy in every way. by all means ignore this advice, if you do i want you to get the vaxx. you are part of the problem commie boy.

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Viruses don't exist Mon 20 Dec 2021 07:12:14 No.13986319 Report

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>>13986232
I am pretty sure it will become monthly duty.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 07:29:57 No.13986368 Report

Quoted By: >>13986464

>>13986232
I’m not even vaccinated, nigger, I just feel that accuracy is important. There are a lot of good reasons to not get vaxxed and to oppose vaccine mandates. Uncontrolled spike protein production isn’t one of them.
I also have a problem with the gloating, gleeful nature of both anti-vaxx and pro-vaxx posts, including yours. The world getting worse isn’t funny.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 07:37:15 No.13986385 Report

Quoted By: >>13986472 >>13986605

>>13986205
If you keep getting injected each time your body stops making the spike proteins (waning immunity), there's little difference between the vaccine causing spikes indefinately and you getting injections indefinately. The net result is the same: constant bombardment of your body with spike proteins. Since associated heart risks are thought to be due to the spike proteins, each time you get an injection and the production starts up again, you're putting more strain on your heart.
Why again do you want to do this? To "protect" yourself from a virus that even if it also is hard on your heart, at least it stops once your immune system gets rid of it. With the injections, you have to keep taking them so the damage to your heart is continuous until the day you die.How many injections can your body handle?
How long can your heart take being constantly attacked by spike proteins? If you're required to take the injections every other month, over the typical human lifespan, that's more than 500 injections.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 08:13:28 No.13986464 Report

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>>13986368
it's not meant to be funny, but i'm glad you think so, we all need some humour in these dark times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 08:15:42 No.13986472 Report

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>>13986385
aktually, theres no evidence that coid is anything other than the common flu, or omicron the cold. it likely has zero effect, the vaccine on the other hand...

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 09:09:20 No.13986605 Report

Quoted By: >>13986874

>>13986385
I don’t get why you’re having such a hard time understanding me. If someone gets the injection once, their body will not continue to produce spike proteins after a short time. So people can still limit the damage to their organism by not taking any more, if they are worried about it.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 11:41:58 No.13986863 Report

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>>13968047
I don't agree, they wouldn't need to do any of that stuff if it was actually dangerous because the masses would see the death with their own eyes and want to get the shot accordingly, this doesn't exist with covid which people are relaxed about which is why they have to do all this fear stuff to herd everyone where they want them to go.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 11:48:14 No.13986874 Report

Quoted By: >>13986916

>>13986605
>So people can still limit the damage to their organism by not taking any more
There's a word for people who stop taking the injections: anti-vaxxers. If you're not current on boosters, you're no longer considered vaccinated. If you refuse to take any more, you are an anti-vaxxer. It's that simple.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 12:03:03 No.13986916 Report

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>>13986874
I am anti-vaccine. However, I fail to see what that has to do with my point about spike proteins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 14:49:59 No.13987374 Report

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>>13984516
The first sentence is below 40 age group, the second sentence includes while population sample.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 14:57:54 No.13987392 Report

Quoted By: >>13987470 >>13987598 >>14019584

>>13977515
>No one forced you to get it.
yeah, because restricting unvaxxed people to travel or even go outside was not considered an obligation. You might as well say taxes are optional, but you would have "severe restrictions to your liberty" if you don't pay them. Idiot.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 15:02:59 No.13987401 Report

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>>13977737
because there's something called "contraindications", meaning that the possible risks of using a medication or so can outweight the benefits of them. That's why medications are designated for the "risk population", there's no use in using those medications on sane low-risk people. It has been like this since forever, but know COVIDtards thinks that everyone needs it, including babies, because reasons.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 15:04:48 No.13987408 Report

Quoted By: >>13999369

>>13981441
You do realise that if you develop some long-term disease you will be even more indebted and incapable of working to pay it off because you'll be crippled?
Doctors once suspected I had myocarditis some 5 years or so ago and they basically told me if you get that shit and don't handle it well you might not die but you are fucked for life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 15:07:53 No.13987417 Report

Quoted By: >>13987509

Vaxxies always assume that you have to choose between vaccine and disease, which is fallacious. Your risk of complications from COVID is your risk of contracting symptomatic COVID times the risk of complications of developing complications for symptomatic COVID cases. Your risk of complications from vaccination is the risk of complications from vaccinations. It's higher for most people below 30. Oh and we're on the third shot, soon to be the fourth. Every time you get back on the hamster wheel you're rolling the dice again.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 15:21:46 No.13987470 Report

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>>13987392
I think anon was saying, this is what they will say to you after it all comes out. Take a long walk basically.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Mon 20 Dec 2021 15:28:59 No.13987509 Report

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>>13987417
there's no covid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 15:48:12 No.13987598 Report

Quoted By: >>14012303

>>13987392
>oh no, I can't go to a bar to pay a 200% markup for a beer and trashy finger food!
>oh no, I have to visit one of the hundreds of places within my own country that I have never been to!
>oh no, I can't fuck a ladyboy-hooker in Thailand!
Out of the many amazing arguments against vaxx obligations you had to pick the worst. Why?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 16:00:04 No.13987648 Report

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>>13967169
the covid """"vaccine""""" weakens your immune system which is why shit like flu can kill you after you take it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 16:02:31 No.13987657 Report

Quoted By: >>13987809

>>13978555
What I wonder is how the adenovirus vaccines didn't suffer the same myocarditis fate?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 16:08:50 No.13987695 Report

Quoted By: >>13990918

>>13986018
You start off by listing some vague points about tyranical goverments saving face but then attach strongly to US centric viewpoint. How can I expect your analysis to otherwise not be biased? There's a lot of geopolitical interest to discredit the USA and yet its not happening...

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 16:51:20 No.13987809 Report

Quoted By: >>13988100

>>13987657
Not sure, the adenoviruses chosen may not fuse very well to the heart cells, whereas they do fuse with platelets, which is the cause of the clotting issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 18:05:57 No.13988100 Report

Quoted By: >>13988825

>>13987809
I was more referring to the fact that adenovirus vector is used to deliver spike proteins too. Clotting is its own separate thing. Why should it not too cause spike proteins in the blood stream resulting in myocarditis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 20:48:34 No.13988791 Report

Quoted By: >>13989162

>>13978709
Link? I cant find anything confirming this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 20:57:45 No.13988825 Report

Quoted By: >>14012200

>>13988100
I'm not sure what the cause of myocarditis is. My assumption has been that with the mRNA vaccines, the lipid nano particles are reaching the blood stream and entering the heart cells, which then produce the spike protein, causing the cells to get attacked by the immune system. With the adenovirus vectors, they're binding to the platelets, which are then attacked by the immune system. So in each scenario, it's not specifically the spike protein that's the issue, but the immune response to the cells that the vaccines have entered. I'm hypothesizing here, but it would explain the difference, i.e. the LNPs tend to enter heart cells, and adenovirus vectors tend to enter platelets.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 21:04:29 No.13988859 Report

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>>13985270
>no vex
Should read
>no sex

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Anonymous Mon 20 Dec 2021 22:15:22 No.13989162 Report

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>>13988791
Third search result on Google.
https://www.siegener-zeitung.de/siegen/c-lokales/booster-jetzt-schon-nach-vier-wochen-moeglich_a258494

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 05:56:18 No.13990396 Report

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>>13980340
It's a surprise !

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 06:04:16 No.13990422 Report

Quoted By: >>13990439 >>13990540

>>13967183
i know what study you are referring to. its simplified, forgetting a few aspects. even moderna 2nd shot would be below in an adjusted statistic.

moderna uses triple the amount biontech for example uses. its the spike protein that causes vascular problems and heart conditions. you can be sure, that if you are unvaccinated, you will get a much much higher dose of those spike proteins + virus rna than with moderna.

also, do not forget that the heart stuff is just one main symptom of the vaccine, but one of many of covid. there is no scenario positive outcome of being unvaccinated.

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Viruses don't exist Tue 21 Dec 2021 06:11:46 No.13990439 Report

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>>13990422
complete bullshit.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 06:41:48 No.13990540 Report

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>>13990422
>reddit tranny

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 06:50:03 No.13990554 Report

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>>13967212
see a fucking doctor man

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 07:13:02 No.13990602 Report

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>>13975672
>virtuall impossible for them to enter nucleus. They dont have the signature for nuclear retrotransport nor are there receptor mediated carriers or pores.
rebunked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Unt03UBhbU

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 07:14:10 No.13990604 Report

Quoted By: >>13990679

>>13967183
according to the brazilian health ministry the moderna vaccine has a 0.4% severe adverse event ratio

somehow brazillian experts think this is a low number

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Viruses don't exist Tue 21 Dec 2021 07:45:48 No.13990679 Report

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>>13990604
irrelevant.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 09:18:39 No.13990876 Report

Quoted By: >>13990878

>>13978602
>assining chest pains immediatly to heart pains
the arogance in your post makes it extremly dimwitted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 09:19:49 No.13990878 Report

Quoted By: >>13990884

>>13990876
>assining chest pains immediatly to heart pains
>the arogance in your post makes it extremly dimwitted
that's the guideline being given to people

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 09:22:07 No.13990884 Report

Quoted By: >>13990896 >>13991216

>>13990878
>that's the guideline being given to people
given by antivaxers, which proves they are absolutely retarded as usual.

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Viruses don't exist Tue 21 Dec 2021 09:28:48 No.13990896 Report

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>>13990884
yep, to call that injections a "vaccine" one must be retard.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 09:40:29 No.13990918 Report

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>>13987695
It doesn’t happen overnight. Well, not like the great global lockdown did. The sheep are being dripfed to the slaughter

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 12:29:42 No.13991216 Report

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>>13990884
>given by antivaxers, which proves they are absolutely retarded as usual.
it's being given by the health ministry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 12:48:07 No.13991278 Report

Quoted By: >>13992211 >>14003846

>>13978602
I can't fucking believe how stupid this board is. Why are you posting this? Why are people replying to you unironically? You don't know several people with chest pain, no one started crying after listening to your semi-illiterate tirade about vaccines. This is a work of fiction created to stroke your ego. What the fuck is the point of this board? Everyone here is just spewing a continuous stream of trash.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 18:13:19 No.13992211 Report

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>>13991278
lol check out this retard. A prime vaxx cattle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 22:02:20 No.13993088 Report

Quoted By: >>13993093 >>13993777

>>13984075
>>13984442
>which side gets the most benefit out of lying to me?
The ones trying to shill me radioactive necklaces, veterinary-grade horse medicine without a worm problem, and fake vaccination cards in the name of "freedom" only looking for my wallet on my corpse, versus the ones shilling me a free vaccine created under the scrutiny and control of actual experts, from a government who gains way more from me being alive than dead.

Yeah, I know who to trust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 22:04:16 No.13993093 Report

Quoted By: >>13993103

>>13993088
>versus the ones shilling me a free vaccine
Very kind of those pharmaceutical companies to provide all their work for free. Strange how they won't provide them to the poor countries though, since they're free and all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 22:04:33 No.13993095 Report

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>>13986018
>Was it an election year and the opposing party, who is in control of most of the media, propagandize the shit out of everyone to oust the encumbent?
Amerocentrism is truly a mental disease.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 22:08:40 No.13993103 Report

Quoted By: >>13993180

>>13993093
Poor countries aren't known for their amazing logistics chains that'd make most vaccines used in the West viable for storage.

Also: AstraZeneca and Sinopharm got trumped by the truckloads in those countries. Sadly not enough, but they were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 22:27:27 No.13993180 Report

Quoted By: >>13993208

>>13993103
Then how do you propose the USA will start exporting its vaccines to low income countries, when it didn't make sense for Pfizer and Moderna to sell to those countries?

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Viruses don't exist Tue 21 Dec 2021 22:42:33 No.13993208 Report

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>>13993180
injections
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Dec 2021 22:48:05 No.13993223 Report

Quoted By: >>13999206

>>13967402
>I still can’t tell if it’s worth it to get even Pfizer as a 25 year old guy.
Is it worth it to you to be permitted to take part in society? If yes then get the Jab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 01:57:10 No.13993770 Report

Quoted By: >>13993777 >>13993917 >>14007287

Help me out. As of today I am unvaxxed, i am 28, very fit and healthy. Been in over 2000 houses during the pandemic never got covid. I am going to Abu Dhabi in january so i have to be vaccinated. I am going to take a j&j vaccine because its the only option i have to be fully vaxxed by that time. Is j&j a smart choice for a 29 yr old male? Should i ask to aspirate before they administer the vaccine?

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Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 01:59:21 No.13993777 Report

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>>13993088
>how could you not trust large corporate entities that exist to make money
>how could you possibly think those in power could conspire to do bad things, such a thing is preposterous and has never happened before, you are dumb and i am smart for making this observation.
Okay kiddo. Enjoy your myocarditis, brain damage and mild immune-defiecincy.
>>13993770
your best bet is to just not travel and blame vaccine passports, no amount of inconvenience is worth chronic health problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 02:44:16 No.13993917 Report

Quoted By: >>13993937

>>13993770
>Been in over 2000 houses during the pandemic never got covid.
The fuck? Are you a plumber or electrician or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 02:52:07 No.13993937 Report

Quoted By: >>13993983

>>13993917
No i own a real estate photography business and I have done 2000+ shoots myself in the past 2 years. Only around 10% of all houses i shot were empty... i touch everything, doorknobs, items,... always in small places with different people, never got covid without being vaxxed, no idea how. (I do wear a mask in every house tho)

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Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 03:09:13 No.13993983 Report

Quoted By: >>14002721

>>13993937
Ah, got it. Well I personally agree with the other anon, just stay home unless absolutely necessary (hopefully Valneva or Novavax will be available in the coming months). Otherwise, um, I guess one J&J is safer than two shots of Pfizer? And definitely ask them to aspirate, there was a study between Denmark (aspirates) and Norway (doesn't aspirate) and events of myocarditis and pericarditis were over 2.5 times more common in Norway.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 03:36:01 No.13994043 Report

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>>13967169
26m here, I got myocarditis from the second pfizer dose back in April and I've been told by my doctors this week not to get the booster and just stick to masking and social distancing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 16:41:09 No.13996149 Report

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>>13990602
Thanks for this, very important information

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 20:50:33 No.13997343 Report

Quoted By: >>13997785 >>13999351 >>14002849

>>13984442
>>13990540
>>13986232
I am this guy, i work in a
one thousand strong housing association housing mostly drug addicted alcoholics who regularly take various drugs that make them fight one anothet, my jobs are entirely based around facilities maintenance, reattaching radiators pulled off walls, cleaning up blood stains and various other damages like fist holes inwalls (we get alot of those.)
These people regularly shoplift, one guy ran out of a store with a trolly full of shit and hit an old lady, braking her hip in several places, several police found the culprit with several other lads and women (drug addicted barely sentient sluts) who were completely out of it on several bottle of vodka and illegal substances, the real question is how do these people even survive. despite being a huge detriment to socienty, despite being loud and absolute cunts, the still recieve government checks and allowances, benifits.
Jews. That is the answer, the jews facilitate their survival. or people exactly like the jews.
but also, people who mean well and facilitate things just do shit to facilitate this to pay their pay-check because they have no spiritual reason to do so. they who perpetuate the system are corpse people because they demand people sink to their level of obedience. you see, they are the ultimate npc's. and if you obay them, you will suffer their intelligence until you fucking brake you stupid fuck, so go ahead, fuck your shit up, i dare you. bitch nigger lol.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 22:05:32 No.13997726 Report

Quoted By: >>13997753 >>13999397

People in this thread saying "I had chest tightness" or "I had been feeling pain in my chest" make me fucking laugh - these are classic psychosomatic symptoms every doctor is taught to roll eyes on. You didn't have heart problems, you just read shit on the internet that got you scared.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 22:13:50 No.13997753 Report

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>>13997726
>all your buddies claiming they had COVID
They just had a cold.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Dec 2021 22:15:50 No.13997770 Report

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>>13967169
some people suffer from it and others recover.
Right now sportsmen can be used as labrats but it`s not that easy
>>13967183
I think the problem is:
-unvaxxed people without vaccines will be careful with their bodies
-vaxxed people don`t give a fuck and the few that get inflammation (i don`t know if its real but i know people who felt extremely tired after the RNA vax) worsen the situation

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Viruses don't exist Wed 22 Dec 2021 22:19:03 No.13997785 Report

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>>13997343
"""jews""", again. it's you who "facilitate their survival".

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Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 02:38:20 No.13998701 Report

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>>13975677
Mid tier bait

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Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 05:15:48 No.13999206 Report

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>>13993223
stfu communist scum

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Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 06:10:15 No.13999351 Report

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>>13997343
>>13997785
sorry i was very drunk when i wrote that post, but i haven't seen anybody dying of covid, and i have never been sick. There is literally no virus, because if there were a plague. these unhealthy people and myself would be the first to go. everyone is perfectly fine, the only people i've ever known to get sick have been double vaxxed, and they say it's the worst shit they've ever had. consequently they've lined up for their boosters. This make me think, like dude common, it's not the seasonal flu or the cold, it's the vaccine that's causing this severe illness. and people then attribute that same damage to covid and become hypnotised into the belief that vaccines must save them. Most of these people taking the vaccine are good decent people, and they're getting endlessly fucked up because of prescription medicine. it is horrifying, i suppose destain for the "npc's" is a cope to deal with what I witness on a daily basis. in reality the people i actually wish took the vaccine comprise of a very low percentage of the population.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 06:17:03 No.13999369 Report

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>>13987408
I'd prefer death than to go to the hospital.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 06:25:21 No.13999384 Report

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>>13967954
Trust your gut

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Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 06:29:59 No.13999397 Report

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>>13997726
you are part of the small minority i actively wish would vaccinate. get you boosters Pfizer boi, take your meds and deteriorate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 17:12:07 No.14000980 Report

Quoted By: >>14001533

tl;dr, should I just wait more time than they recommend between the first and second one and also rest 1-2 weeks after taking the second vaxx?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 19:30:47 No.14001533 Report

Quoted By: >>14001658

>>14000980
you should go and get as many as you can. you can't be too safe. this coronavirus is very dangerous, do not be complacent. go and get your booster shot right now.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Dec 2021 19:59:36 No.14001658 Report

Quoted By: >>14002860

>>14001533
Why do you type like a passive aggressive basic bitch redditor in reverse?

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 01:16:52 No.14002721 Report

Quoted By: >>14002769

>>13993983
>Denmark (aspirates) and Norway (doesn't aspirate) and events of myocarditis and pericarditis were over 2.5 times more common in Norway.
sauce pls

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 01:19:20 No.14002736 Report

Quoted By: >>14014371

>>13990602
that's in vitro, not in vivo

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 01:25:36 No.14002769 Report

Quoted By: >>14002784 >>14003200

>>14002721
Apparently the study hasn't been published yet. Professor Holtby led it, he's also the reason Norway started aspirated back in March. You can see an interview with him here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkopHLQjtVQ

John Campbell provided more details of the results here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdVymGK3OzM

Professor Niels Hoiby

Denmark

Total vaccinated with mRNA vaccine = 4,304,710

Total myocarditis + pericarditis = 129 (0.003%)

One case in 33,369

Norway

Total vaccinated with mRNA vaccine = 3.765.354

Total myocarditis + pericarditis = 274 (0.0073%)

One case in 13,743

2.4 times more cases in Norway

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 01:30:02 No.14002784 Report

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>>14002769
>he's also the reason Norway started aspirated back in March.
Sorry, should have said Denmark.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 01:41:51 No.14002849 Report

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>>13997343
>the jews facilitate their survival
no. it's christians

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 01:43:00 No.14002860 Report

Quoted By:

>>14001658
im trying to help you, just go get your booster

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 02:03:14 No.14002953 Report

Quoted By: >>14002966

>>13967468
Upload to vaers

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Viruses don't exist Fri 24 Dec 2021 02:06:21 No.14002966 Report

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>>14002953
still, virologists are fraudsters

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 03:06:49 No.14003200 Report

Quoted By: >>14003238

>>14002769
https://pmj.bmj.com/content/early/2021/10/06/postgradmedj-2021-141119

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 03:18:21 No.14003238 Report

Quoted By: >>14003307

>>14003200
bros....? this shit fake right?

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 03:38:01 No.14003307 Report

Quoted By: >>14003312

>>14003238
no. in many hospital protocols, they are instructed to not aspirate and some will get angry or refuse if you ask.
the danish study show 2.4 more cases in norway where they dont aspirate. it may not be causation but it should be standard procedure just in case.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 03:39:09 No.14003312 Report

Quoted By: >>14003327 >>14003406

>>14003307
but if we've known about this for a while why aren't they doin it???? wait do they not care at all? omg!

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 03:40:27 No.14003316 Report

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also in norway: 1 case in 13,743. i doubt they only touch a vessel 1 times out of 14k, it should be way more than that. so even if some of the vaccine goes into your blood, it's still unlikely to have sides.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 03:40:47 No.14003318 Report

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>>13967468
I NEVER hear stuff like this about Covid itself, they insist it’s just as likely but I don’t buy it

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 03:43:05 No.14003327 Report

Quoted By: >>14004214

>>14003312
>why aren't they doin it????
official reason not to aspirate: it can cause hematoma, more pain, and hitting a vessel is "unlikely"

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 03:59:50 No.14003398 Report

Quoted By: >>14004481

>>13967209
>MFW my 3rd world country gave us all single application double shots
Am I fucked or what /sci/?

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 04:01:17 No.14003406 Report

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>>14003312
Supposedly there was some study on children with a different type of vaccine, and the finding was that aspirating led to a bit more pain at the injection site. Therefore, the recommendation was to not aspirate in that situation. From that, it was extrapolated that aspiration wasn't needed for adults or children, regardless of vaccine type. I'd personally take a slightly more sore, bruised shoulder over myocarditis, but maybe I'm crazy.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 04:08:38 No.14003429 Report

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>>13967293
OH NO NO NO NO ANTIVAXXER BROS
NOT LIKE THIS

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 05:10:00 No.14003602 Report

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>>13978700
>Do they think killing the most agreeable citizens or weakening them but not hte brave retards refusing the vax is smart?
This is a common misconception.
Mindless sheep are a mass produced commodity that are directly causing the problem that this culling is trying to solve. Their worth is negative.
Any nigger capable of some independent thought is more valuable to a conspirator than a mindless worker drone. They will always need someone to watch over the drones for them and at some level that someone can't be too mindless himself to do the job right.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 06:53:36 No.14003846 Report

Quoted By: >>14004525

>>13991278
I feel you
is there an alternative to sci?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 10:30:17 No.14004205 Report

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>>13978700
Profit motive negates your little story, lad.
Silly plebbit opinion on a blue board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 10:41:51 No.14004214 Report

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>>14003327
Plus it gives the pharma companies something to blame their clot shot side effects on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Dec 2021 12:35:04 No.14004481 Report

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>>14003398
i dont know but you should have waited at least a month

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Fri 24 Dec 2021 12:49:23 No.14004525 Report

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>>14003846
yes. go to Facebook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 00:59:14 No.14006880 Report

Quoted By: >>14006951 >>14007455

>>13978703
Even if the booster helped against omicron, you're at much greater risk of contracting covid for ~two weeks after getting jabbed. Getting a booster now that Omicron's already here just makes you more likely to get fucked unless you can totally isolate for 14 days after the boost.

The booster push is literally going to make things worse.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Sat 25 Dec 2021 01:22:10 No.14006951 Report

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>>14006880
"contracting", new soi word. "get covid" is more straight. fucking scientists were never able to "put covid"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 01:37:18 No.14007005 Report

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>>13967745
Dude's got a big ol' booger in his nose. giwtwm I'd pick the shit out of that fucker and flick it or wipe it under my chair

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 03:00:07 No.14007214 Report

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>>13972050
>simple: covid problems are real and common
>vax problems are mostly conspiracy theories, intentional fear mongering, and plain lies
They could easily tackle the conspiracy theories by explicitly outlawing by constitutional changes the tying of a vaccine passport to any kind of central bank digital currency or social credit score. Yet they do not. This one action could save millions of lives if their is nothing sinister going on. But they don't do it. Why is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 03:31:34 No.14007287 Report

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>>13993770
>risking your health for the non-guaranteed privilege of consooming travel
you are pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 04:33:49 No.14007419 Report

Quoted By: >>14007468

>>13972050
>vax problems are mostly conspiracy theories, intentional fear mongering, and plain lies
Fine then, if they're going to be mandatory, allow me to sue for damages if/when I get myocarditis. Until then, hell no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 04:43:12 No.14007455 Report

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>>14006880

Source?

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Sat 25 Dec 2021 04:47:02 No.14007468 Report

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>>14007419
strange. I would not jab myself with any potion unless I made it myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 09:30:04 No.14008001 Report

Quoted By: >>14008111

>>13967954
The first thing you should have discerned is where COVID came from and who first started spreading it, then you can piece together what it all means without wasting your time trying to understand the mechanics of the vaccine or your immune system.
Exhibit 1) COVID-19 came from China.
Exhibit 2) The mainstream media and the Biden administration and Bill Gates are playing footsie with China.
First, why should you believe anything that comes from China or any of its constituents? Every government official and corporation have committed treason by embedding themselves with China. They need to be put to death for crimes against humanity.
Do not take the vaccine under these false-flag pretenses. It means that you are choosing to participate in the lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 09:44:29 No.14008021 Report

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>>13967169
This thread is old as fuck and you're retarded as fuck

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Viruses don't exist Sat 25 Dec 2021 10:23:20 No.14008111 Report

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>>14008001
covid is only talks, and came from WHO, WEF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 12:13:52 No.14008921 Report

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it's been 2 months since the vaccine and my heart rate is still 10 bpm above normal

when can I expect it to come down?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 15:13:58 No.14010852 Report

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>>13967954
"The estimated rate of myocarditis was 12.6 cases per million doses among individuals aged 12–39 years, receiving the second dose of the COVID-19 mRNA vaccine."[1]

1. Journal of Medical Virology, Clinical characteristics and prognostic factors of myocarditis associated with the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 15:55:17 No.14010994 Report

Quoted By: >>14012284

>>13967169
I bit the bullet and took the Moderna booster, some people will get no problems, my dad doesn't work out or lift at all really and nothing happened
But if you lift regularly and run like me etc, you will most likely feel it. Basically it just gives you heart inflammation and when your heart starts working harder you're gonna feel it, and if you feel it you should stop but it goes away quickly. It's no long term heart damage obviously if you've taken a drug for asthma or something that puts more stress on your heart and felt the side effects of that before it's basically just like that.
I suggest not taking it if you don't want to have to go light for a week or two
If you're a DYEL go for it because it shouldn't bother you

Also I don't think it's a matter of men aged 18-29 being more likely to have problems it's just that people older than 30 generally know their bodies and when to stop doing something if it's giving them problems
Someone younger than that is probably gonna keep going despite feeling stuff which is why it's a problem

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 16:22:19 No.14011108 Report

Quoted By: >>14011168

>Your heart problems aren't due to the drugs we forced you to get injected, it's due to...
>Shakes Magic 8 Ball
>Exercising!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 16:31:26 No.14011168 Report

Quoted By: >>14011365

>>14011108
You didn't read my post it effects everyone
You just won't notice it unless you're actually active so fortunately for you there will be nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 17:10:40 No.14011365 Report

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>>14011168
>Obesity is the primary comorbidity
>Eh, if you're fat, you won't notice you died.
Actually, you're on to something here. If you're dead, you likely won't know you're dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 17:16:07 No.14011395 Report

Quoted By:

>>13967183
>>13967169
The thing is, despite vaccine being less risky in comparison to covid itself, a vaccine does not guarantee you any protection from covid.
So taking the vaccine in reality puts you in risk for both, the vaxx and covid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 17:19:40 No.14011417 Report

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>got the pfizer jab
>went swimming in a lake while drunk as shit
>heart didn't explode
weaklings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 18:52:52 No.14011945 Report

Quoted By: >>14011961

>>13975677
>call out shills
>shills reply as expected
q.e.d.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 18:56:17 No.14011961 Report

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>>14011945
Why don't shills leave (you)'s, are they trying to stop original poster-San from replying or just hoping he doesn't notice? They must hold us in utter contempt and fear if they are willing to go this far, truly pathetic bed wetting specimens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 20:14:28 No.14012200 Report

Quoted By: >>14013503

>>13988825
>adenovirus vectors tend to enter platelets.
Lol, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 20:49:13 No.14012284 Report

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>>14010994
>Basically it just gives you heart inflammation and when your heart starts working harder you're gonna feel it, and if you feel it you should stop but it goes away quickly. It's no long term heart damage obviously if you've taken a drug for asthma or something that puts more stress on your heart and felt the side effects of that before it's basically just like that.
This is not normal at all, and its not short-term either, and asthma medication doesn't cause the same thing. My friend took 2 pfizer shots in August, and he tells me that after fapping the other day, his heart felt like it was beating out his chest for a few minutes like he sprinted a marathon. This is 4 months after his last shot, and he's going to take the booster next week too. He was somehow even somewhat open to the idea that it could be normal. Its not normal at all and something very serious and sinister is happening with these heart inflammation side-effects.

And the most concerning thing is that NO ONE knows how this is going to look like in 5-10 years, whether it will persist or fade away, let alone when taking an indefinite amount of boosters into the equation. This is an absolute catastrophe imo and its probably already irreversible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 20:52:58 No.14012303 Report

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>>13987598
It's more like
>I can't even buy groceries because I don't want to take a mystery shot that might give me heart problems at age 28

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Dec 2021 20:57:49 No.14012316 Report

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>>13980163
>Covid over and over again until they die
oh you mean like all of the people taking piss weak vaccines and boosters that clearly are doing nothing to prevent continued spread or reinfection while also ensuring the virus is constantly present in the population?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 00:28:45 No.14013050 Report

Quoted By: >>14013971

>>13967954
I had covid a month ago:

>Lost smell and taste, slowly returning since week 3
>felt like shit for 4 weeks, it just got better
> Erection Problems in general, no more morning wood, just got better
> Balls hurt randomly, this didnt go away yet
> Penis size has decreased 1 inch
>Nose clogged randomly, didnt go away yet

I wasnt vaccinated, Im also fat, 25 year old, a non smoker and virgin.

My main symptoms of covid were a runny nose, loss of smell and taste and exhaustion.

Almost all my vaxxed friends are still alive and dont have problems, yet. I still belive it is wrong to get vaccinated if you are younger than 40 years old with no health issues.

[fortune color="#532dfc"]Your fortune: Blessed Yule![/fortune]

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 03:07:59 No.14013503 Report

Quoted By: >>14014292

>>14012200
???

>In very rare cases, the scientists suggest, the viral vector may enter the bloodstream and bind to PF4, where the immune system then views this complex as foreign. They believe this misplaced immunity could result in the release of antibodies against PF4, which bind to and activate platelets, causing them to cluster together and triggering blood clots in a very small number of people after the vaccine is administered.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Sun 26 Dec 2021 06:39:04 No.14013971 Report

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>>14013050
it is schizophrenia, not cvoid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 10:15:12 No.14014292 Report

Quoted By: >>14015389

>>14013503
>binding = entering
Low iq moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 10:56:10 No.14014371 Report

Quoted By: >>14014385

>>14002736
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 11:03:48 No.14014385 Report

Quoted By: >>14014389

>>14014371
Seeth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 11:06:13 No.14014389 Report

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>>14014385
enjoy AIDS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 16:49:09 No.14015389 Report

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>>14014292
What do you think happens after fusion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 16:53:03 No.14015398 Report

Quoted By: >>14015533

>>got the pfizer jab
>>huffed two cans of spraypaint in one hour
>>heart didn't explode

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Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 17:48:13 No.14015533 Report

Quoted By: >>14015537

>>14015398
IKR, what a bunch of cowards, I'm personally going to vaxxmax illegally using several fake ID's, injecting a total of 32 FAUCHI ouchie super soldier science serum, then i'm going to mix half a bottle of whiskey and paint thinner with half a kilo of cocaine, huff 2 cans of spray-paint and sprint naked though a ghetto screaming nigger repeatedly. My heart will actually increase in strength.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Dec 2021 17:51:46 No.14015537 Report

Quoted By: >>14017903

>>14015533
Not only that, i will develop the ability perfectly in pitch black after going completely blind, guided perfectly through the void by nothing other thank my immense bravery, raging erection sheer manly spirit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 03:53:32 No.14017161 Report

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>>13975677
>They will pay when the global economy collapses and we go to war with them.
sounds like a bit much desu

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 09:16:58 No.14017862 Report

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>>13984075
Two sides can benefit at the same retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 09:31:16 No.14017903 Report

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>>14015537
>Dice roll: 2
The spike proteins links and engorge your penis into the ultimate 5g antenna: your super power is able to fuck every phone on Earth and teleport anywhere there is a 5g signal. Nothing can be sent without a tingling in your balls.
I am vaxmaxxing as well. I am hoping to gain the power to control gravity with the black holes in my swiss cheese brain from my mighty T-cells destroying all adversaries and imposters among us, including my brain pretending to contain me. Fuck me, I rolled a seven.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 11:42:06 No.14018233 Report

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>>13983672
There is no Science practiced anymore. This is simply paperism or scientism.

Academia has been bloated so much that every little faggot does research and tries to get his shitty opinions published.

Peer-Reviewing something means nothing outside of mathematics where people check the proof. The only way to review something in natural sciences is by reviewing the experiments and attempting to replicating them.

No scientific study should enter an academic journal without replication from a number of peers. Anything else is unchecked bullshit and people have an incentive to lie, be careless or simply fuck things up because they are incompetent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 15:33:09 No.14018974 Report

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>>13967183
Stop being an un/sci/entific faggot and lumping covid vaccines with all other vaccines. ONLY covid-19 vaccines are based on UNTESTED, EXPERIMENTAL mRNA. I will never understand the mindset of you retards that chill this covid vaccine. You're literally emotionally blackmailing people into becoming a walking Guinea pig. Genuinely hope you kill yourself soon. The world would be a better place without you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 17:39:40 No.14019574 Report

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>>13978735
>Mild dead heart tissue
Fucking hell you are actually mentally retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 17:40:56 No.14019584 Report

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>>13987392
What the fuck are you evening talking about? Taxes? What? You're completely incoherent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 17:43:05 No.14019598 Report

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>>13977737
I hope this is bait for your sake otherwise you are one delusional and uneducated retard. Stop taking everything you see and read on plebbit and twatter at face value. Do some actual research of your own and stop letting social media control your brain. For fucks sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Dec 2021 17:47:07 No.14019620 Report

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>>13968308
That data can take up to a decade to get. This is why we have animal and human trials of drugs for 5-7 years before a drug or medicine is approved. The covid vaccine is 100% a political and economic tool and social media is the weapon used to enforce it. I guarantee over the next 5-15 years people who got the mRNA vax will have a myriad of new health issues.

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