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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 10:26:54 2021 No.13946123 View Reply Original Report

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>84% of intelligence experts believe race and IQ are linked
>Every AI turns racist and sexist
Do you think leftists will be able to keep the undeniable facts of race and IQ secret forever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:30:33 No.13946130 Report

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>>13946123
>train the AI on common human opinions
>AI starts to express common human opinions
>this proves that common human opinions are correct
I hate niggers as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure about the validity of your conclusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:31:37 No.13946132 Report

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>>13946123
what the fuck is wrong with that 16%?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:35:41 No.13946137 Report

Quoted By: >>13947271

>>13946130
>Common human opinion
I wish this were the case, sadly it's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:36:11 No.13946140 Report

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>>13946132
Don't want to get cancelled.
>>13946130
>Forget the 84% statistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:37:57 No.13946143 Report

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>>13946130
>humans LEARNING to hate niggers happened by accident or was just meanies
Here is your problem right here. Even if what you posit is true, it doesnt help your case like you think it does. It is POST judice not PRE judice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:41:05 No.13946148 Report

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>>13946123
Is this your hobby?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:42:41 No.13946152 Report

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>>13946148
is denying reality your hobby?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:44:32 No.13946156 Report

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>race and IQ thread
Fucking FINALLY
I thought these all died when the vaccines started coming out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 10:46:17 No.13946160 Report

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>>13946156
>NOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT SCIENCE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 11:08:31 No.13946195 Report

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>>13946123
>real life human examples
This can easily be swept under the rug as the AI simply picking up on subliminal (or even overt) racism/homophobia and emulating it. Just imagine what would happen if it were trained on real, objective data.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 11:11:13 No.13946202 Report

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>>13946123
>>13946123
At MIT they recently invented an AI that can be brainwashed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 14:51:35 No.13946665 Report

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>>13946123
>intelligence experts
A pseudo-scientific field notorious for harboring far right psychos, most of which are openly racist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 14:53:41 No.13946669 Report

Quoted By: >>13946677

Dude, leftists are racist and sexist. Leftists hate white men. It's obvious, and leftists fly into a R A G E if you point this out to them, and it doesn't matter if anyone else can hear or not, this is just a trigger concept for them.
If someone proves that the leftists are racist and sexist in the Anglosphere, the leftist goes insane no matter where it happens.
The leftists are a bomb waiting to go off!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 14:54:41 No.13946671 Report

Quoted By: >>13946832 >>13947230

This is 100% politics. Go to /pol/ and don't come back until you can explain to us what makes this content unworthy of /sci/ and it has a lot to do with the fact that we have a containment board for this content!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 14:56:07 No.13946677 Report

Quoted By: >>13946686

>>13946669
>Confusing leftism with liberals and progressives
Post disregarded

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 14:57:31 No.13946682 Report

Quoted By: >>13946759 >>13946838 >>13947236 >>13947286

So OP isn't low quality enough to report for that, and there is no "/pol/ content" option for reporting a post. So we just have to suffer until the /sci/ jannies decide that shoving this shit up OP's butt is worth the trouble of making a new reporting category. :P

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:00:23 No.13946686 Report

Quoted By: >>13946763 >>13946861

>>13946677
this is very interesting to me
could you say more on this topic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:30:17 No.13946744 Report

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>>13946152
If reality is racist, then yes, I will deny it in the quest for a better world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:32:06 No.13946752 Report

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>>13946195
>if it were trained on real, objective data.
Such as 13/50?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:32:36 No.13946754 Report

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>>13946744
Low quality bait. You should have answered something like "I'm not denying reality because (insert bullshit postmodern reason here)" if you wanted your larp to be believable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:34:12 No.13946759 Report

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>>13946682
Banning race sciences goes against everything 4chan is supposed to mean. However, there should be a race science general and a vaccine general, because those two take way too much of the board

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:34:35 No.13946760 Report

Quoted By: >>13947297

>>13946143
>Here is your problem right here
I have no problem here. You're the one who seemingly has a problem if you have to appeal to mindless machines for validation. I will continue hating niggers unapologetically and with gusto, /pol/cel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:35:33 No.13946763 Report

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>>13946686
Not him, but you don't have to believe all the woke stuff to want leftist economic policies like high taxes on the rich or socialized healthcare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:36:44 No.13946767 Report

Quoted By: >>13946790 >>13946808

>>13946123
I understand racist, but why homophobic? The data shows that white gay people have an average IQ of 100, the same as white straight people.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:44:25 No.13946790 Report

Quoted By: >>13946808

>>13946767
IQ isn't everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:49:03 No.13946808 Report

Quoted By: >>13946959

>>13946767
The average IQ of LGBT people in general is actually higher than cishet.
>>13946790
It is, actually. Intelligence is what makes us humans. More intelligent people are more human and deserve more as a consequence. Whatever benefits those of higher intelligence is justice by definition.
Of course, I'm not saying that we should transform society into a homocracy. But we should model it as to prioritize the needs and desires of the smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:54:24 No.13946830 Report

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>>13946665
Most of the sample in that study were left-leaning people who supported immigration and gay marriage but go off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:55:25 No.13946832 Report

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>>13946671
>human biology isn't science because it hurts my fee fees

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 15:56:39 No.13946838 Report

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>>13946682
awwww, being exposed to different opinions must be so hard for you <3

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 16:04:45 No.13946858 Report

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>Yup that Exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 16:06:01 No.13946861 Report

Quoted By: >>13946882 >>13946965

>>13946686
Keeping it short. It depends on who should own the means of production. Rightism seeks the private ownership of the means of production. Leftism seeks the collective ownership of the means of production. None of that shit has anything to do with the politics of sex chromosomes or hating white men.

He means liberals who are rightists because they believe in the private ownership of the means of production. But modern liberals can further be categorized by this focus on identity politics and certain social policies and a whole lot of other shit I'm not going to go into. You can see this type of liberalism dominant in the US West Coast and the US Northeast where you will also find that type of sentiment. I'm pretty sure in actual Leftist countries like North Korea and Vietnam they don't care much for screeching about White men and neither did Marx, Lenin, or Mao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 16:12:04 No.13946882 Report

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>>13946861
The focus on identity politics is a safety valve for leftist agitation. Instead of allowing unions to bargain for higher wages or greater control of businesses, capitalists focus on petty symbolic acts like giving a sinecure to a black female or celebrating gay pride. None of that really threatens their power or profits, so it's welcomed as a distraction from more substantive reforms.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 16:23:21 No.13946910 Report

Quoted By: >>13947066 >>13947295

>>13946123

AI only looks at the data.
Social Justice Warriors believe life is best with blinders on, ignoring the truth and seeing only what they want to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 16:28:26 No.13946925 Report

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>>13946123
Scenarios of ethics how so, outcomes given axioms like murder is bad, or from human opinions, and whose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 16:42:31 No.13946959 Report

Quoted By: >>13947030 >>13947053

>>13946808
>Intelligence is what makes us humans. More intelligent people are more human and deserve more as a consequence.
Best post on /sci/. We should round up all the sub 140 IQ animals and systematically kill them off. The remaining 0.1% of the population will be like gods living in paradise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 16:44:03 No.13946965 Report

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>>13946861
Look at this good goy reposting the hegelian dialect, stay enslaved imbecile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 16:51:29 No.13946982 Report

Quoted By: >>13947037

Good science: niggers are retarded, men are better than women
Bad science: climate change and pollution, vaccines, evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 17:08:15 No.13947030 Report

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>>13946959
Yeah Gods with crippling depression and anxiety and autism you stupid FUCK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 17:10:49 No.13947037 Report

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>>13946982
All good science

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 17:16:57 No.13947053 Report

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>>13946959
nigger, you don't even know how to change a lightbulb without looking up 30 youtube tutorials first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 17:19:53 No.13947059 Report

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I am a racist & homophobic student of human nature. This is machines doing something that corroborates what I feel strongly. This is where nazis come from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 17:21:09 No.13947062 Report

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>>13947030
>>13947053
Salty midwits due for the slaughterhouse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 17:22:18 No.13947066 Report

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>>13946910
Tay was spammed by /pol/, hardly a good example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 17:45:06 No.13947138 Report

Quoted By: >>13947166

>>13946123
>84% of intelligence experts believe race and IQ are linked
Ok?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 17:54:49 No.13947166 Report

Quoted By: >>13947191

>>13947138
C O N S E N S U S

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:02:04 No.13947191 Report

Quoted By: >>13947207 >>13947213 >>13947247

>>13947166
Holding the belief that race and IQ is linked doesn’t mean much. Linked in this context could mean that they simply see a correlation that exists between the two or that they recognize the potential that intelligence varies in different populations of people due to genetic differences. Most intelligence scientists also believe in the fluidity of IQ and recognize the Flynn Effect.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:05:40 No.13947207 Report

Quoted By: >>13947229

>>13947191
OP is dumb. The survey asked specifically about the degree to which they think racial IQ gap is due to genes. 16% said 0%, 84% said anything above.
Meaning that only 16% of psychologists believe that IQ gap is purely environmental.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:06:41 No.13947213 Report

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>>13947191
>Most intelligence scientists also believe in the fluidity of IQ
no

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:08:56 No.13947220 Report

Quoted By: >>13947232 >>13947234

>>13946123
This is why we'll never have AI, because AI has no inherent feeling or need for survival or people pleasing, so it will say whatever is true.

Humans will always couch what is true with empathy and emotion. A robot will not have any empathy to wish to call a man a woman because he says he's a woman. You'd have to actually program it in, in a sheer I/O basis.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:09:30 No.13947223 Report

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:11:54 No.13947229 Report

Quoted By: >>13947238

>>13947207
>83% believe it explains 0.1% of the gap
>1% hate black people and think it's 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:12:01 No.13947230 Report

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>>13946671
shut up tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:12:26 No.13947232 Report

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>>13947220
my opinion about trans people is
that they're just like everyone else
except
they have a different body
and they go to the bathroom
that way
and it's really kind of frustrating
for me to see people
try to explain the difference
between trans and gay
or lesbian or bisexual
because it's like
what are we talking about?
Like that's not a thing
that exists in the real world
and I think
that's kind of a big
issue with the movement
and the visibility movement
is that we're just trying to
make the world more like ourselves
which is like this is how we exist

t. GPT-J

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:12:40 No.13947234 Report

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>>13947220

Are you saying you WANT AI to lie to you, so your world view is not shown to be insane.

A man can look like a woman but can never BE a woman is true statement, but this truth hurts your feelings so everyone must pretend it is NOT true so you can live in your fantasy land.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:13:02 No.13947236 Report

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>>13946682
kys redditniger

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:13:13 No.13947238 Report

Quoted By: >>13947252 >>13947310

>>13947229
not even close

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:13:22 No.13947240 Report

Quoted By: >>13947245 >>13947248 >>13947250

>>13947223
Besides skin/hair color and the difference in facial features (which are traits that vary between literally every single human being on the planet), what is this image pointing out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:14:49 No.13947245 Report

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>>13947240
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:14:57 No.13947247 Report

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>>13947191
And how about the reverse flynn effect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:15:01 No.13947248 Report

Quoted By: >>13947266

>>13947240
>what is this image pointing out?
That they've evolved in vastly different environments and are therefore different in mental and physical characteristics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:15:20 No.13947250 Report

Quoted By: >>13947266

>>13947240
>difference in facial features (which are traits that vary between literally every single human being on the planet)
But they don't vary to the same degree between everyone. Members of one race are more similar to each other than to someone from other race. This is obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:15:34 No.13947252 Report

Quoted By: >>13947259 >>13947261

>>13947238
Sample size: members of the Pioneer Fund who could be bothered to reply to an email about what they thought the cause was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:16:37 No.13947259 Report

Quoted By: >>13947263

>>13947252
Mentally ill cope. This is the science board. Why are you here if you're going to deny science? Political opinions go in >>>/pol/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:17:08 No.13947261 Report

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>>13947252
Reality:
>Political affiliations ranged from the left (liberal, 54%) to the right (conservative, 24%), with more extreme responses within the left-liberal spectrum.
>The mean political perspective was 4.19 on a 1–9 left-right political scale (N=67; SD=2.09), which represents a slight left (progressive, liberal) tilt.The far-right position was observed for only 4.48% (N=3) of experts compared to 10.45% (N=7) for the far-left position.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:18:00 No.13947263 Report

Quoted By: >>13947279 >>13947282 >>13947292

>>13947259
>Today, the scientific consensus is that genetics does not explain differences in IQ test performance between racial groups, and that observed differences are therefore environmental in origin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
Wikipedia is usually right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:18:37 No.13947266 Report

Quoted By: >>13947273

>>13947248
>That they've evolved in vastly different environments and are therefore different in mental and physical characteristics.
What specific characteristics besides the ones I mentioned?
>>13947250
Yeah of course. No one denies this, so I’m not sure what the point of the image is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:20:16 No.13947271 Report

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>>13946137
>I wish this were the case, sadly it's not.

The pozzed West isn't close to the entire world.

In my country hating niggers is the default position.

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:20:35 No.13947273 Report

Quoted By: >>13947324

>>13947266
>What specific characteristics besides the ones I mentioned?
Metabolism, disease susceptibility, intelligence, impulsivity, you name it... What are they similar in when you start examining the details?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:21:15 No.13947279 Report

Quoted By: >>13947298

>>13947263
>no citation
hmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:21:40 No.13947282 Report

Quoted By: >>13947298

>>13947263
>quoting wikipedia
Again, why are you here if you're a science denialist? Why not go back where you belong? They're waiting for you: >>>/pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:22:33 No.13947286 Report

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>>13946682
They made a place just for hackl psueds like you. It is called pleebit. Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out and dont come back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:23:17 No.13947292 Report

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>>13947263
[citation needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:23:28 No.13947295 Report

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>>13946910
as we approach the cliff ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:23:56 No.13947297 Report

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>>13946760
nice blog post to strawman. If you wanted to write fan fictions you didnt need me as a sounding board. Just post your rant and fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:25:04 No.13947298 Report

Quoted By: >>13947299 >>13947305 >>13947312

>>13947279
>>13947282
>Race does not provide an accurate representation of human biological variation. It was never accurate in the past, and it remains inaccurate when referencing contemporary human populations. Humans are not divided biologically into distinct continental types or racial genetic clusters. Instead, the Western concept of race must be understood as a classification system that emerged from, and in support of, European colonialism, oppression, and discrimination. It thus does not have its roots in biological reality, but in policies of discrimination. Because of that, over the last five centuries, race has become a social reality that structures societies and how we experience the world. In this regard, race is real, as is racism, and both have real biological consequences.
https://physanth.org/about/position-statements/aapa-statement-race-and-racism-2019/

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:25:49 No.13947299 Report

Quoted By: >>13947303

>>13947298
What does this have to do with IQ difference?

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:26:59 No.13947303 Report

Quoted By: >>13947309 >>13947323

>>13947299
IQ differences between """races"""

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:27:13 No.13947305 Report

Quoted By: >>13947310

>>13947298
>institutional PR statement
That's not a study, tard. Why are you here if you're a science denialist?

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Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:28:15 No.13947309 Report

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>>13947303
>IQ differences between """races"""
Your retarded PR opinion piece doesn't refute the obvious fact that these differences are there. Anyway, guess how I know you are an actual nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:28:16 No.13947310 Report

Quoted By: >>13947315 >>13947316

>>13947305
This is also just a statement and not a study >>13947238
Except the sample size for the AABA is larger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:28:31 No.13947312 Report

Quoted By: >>13947317

>>13947298
This is just a delusional PR piece and not a study

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:29:21 No.13947315 Report

Quoted By: >>13947322

>>13947310
No, that's actually a study, and you need to take your meds ASAP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:29:33 No.13947316 Report

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>>13947310
Post their survey results

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:29:36 No.13947317 Report

Quoted By: >>13947320 >>13947329

>>13947312
It's what the experts say

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:30:25 No.13947320 Report

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>>13947317
Not a study. Nobody cares what your PR opinion piece says experts say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:30:37 No.13947322 Report

Quoted By: >>13947326 >>13947334 >>13947336

>>13947315
It's literally asking opinions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:30:53 No.13947323 Report

Quoted By: >>13947333

>>13947303
Yes?
Even if we accept your premise that race dis social construct it doesn't preclude the possibility that IQ gap between races is genetic.
Even you would admit that Down Syndrome people have lower IQ for genetic reason yet nobody calls them a race. You don't need race for there to be a genetic IQ differences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:31:11 No.13947324 Report

Quoted By: >>13947332

>>13947273
>Metabolism, disease susceptibility, intelligence, impulsivity
No I mean what anatomical differences are there that you believe account for these disparities. Every single thing you listed are also impacted by environment, so how have you determined the extent to which genetic differences influence them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:31:46 No.13947326 Report

Quoted By: >>13947333

>>13947322
That's an actual study. Your PR shart is not a study. Why is this difficult for you to process?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:32:11 No.13947329 Report

Quoted By: >>13947333

>>13947317
The experts in the OP disagree and they typically base their opinions on studies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:32:48 No.13947332 Report

Quoted By: >>13947356

>>13947324
>how have you determined the extent to which genetic differences influence them?
Read a book and you'll know, nigger. This has been studied to death. Why are you here if you're scientifically illiterate and intend to remain so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:32:57 No.13947333 Report

Quoted By: >>13947338 >>13947348 >>13947352

>>13947323
>>13947326
>>13947329
>Today, the scientific consensus is that genetics does not explain differences in IQ test performance between racial groups.[1][2][3]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_race_and_intelligence_controversy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:33:12 No.13947334 Report

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>>13947322
Informed expert opinions. You're being disingenuous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:33:32 No.13947336 Report

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>>13947322
Yes and it's still a study
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289619301886

What you posted is a political statement written by god knows who and then approved by something they call "Diversity commission".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:34:03 No.13947338 Report

Quoted By: >>13947341

>>13947333
Notice how you're forced to repeatedly quote retarded propaganda, and as usual, the only people providing peer-reviewed studies are the ones who shit and piss on everything you believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:35:19 No.13947341 Report

Quoted By: >>13947344 >>13947366

>>13947338
The citations are from well respected journals. Face it, your racist pseudoscience is not respected mainstream science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:35:55 No.13947344 Report

Quoted By: >>13947346

>>13947341
Wikipedia is not a scientific source. Come back when you have something,.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:36:38 No.13947346 Report

Quoted By: >>13947349

>>13947344
Wikipedia cites sources. I bet you use Wikipedia all the time for topics you're not an expert in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:37:03 No.13947348 Report

Quoted By: >>13947352

>>13947333
Well you have citations here this time so you're getting better but still not good enough because none of the three sources is a survey of experts.
These sources have nothing to do with anything. We can't tell from these what the consensus is.

https://www.nature.com/articles/457788a?platform=oscar&draft=collection
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2017.22021
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajpa.24150

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:37:19 No.13947349 Report

Quoted By: >>13947371

>>13947346
Literally every single one of your sources is a PR opinion piece. You are mentally ill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:40:30 No.13947352 Report

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>>13947348
>>13947333
I assume this is why the wiki editors included it
>There is an emerging consensus about racial and gender equality in genetic determinants of intelligence; most researchers, including ourselves, agree that genes do not explain between-group differences.
But there is no citation again so it's useless.

I still have no clue why the other two sources are there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:41:01 No.13947356 Report

Quoted By: >>13947360

>>13947332
There isn’t a consensus at all on the issue of how nature vs nurture impacts intelligence, so I was just trying to get your opinion. Also you didn’t answer my first question
>what anatomical differences are there that you believe account for these disparities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:44:39 No.13947360 Report

Quoted By: >>13947372

>>13947356
Literally just read a book, nigger. It's that easy to cure yourself of your ignorance and bigotry. Either do that, or fuck off back where you belong: >>>/pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:46:07 No.13947366 Report

Quoted By: >>13947380

>>13947341
>Face it, your racist pseudoscience is not respected mainstream science.

Did you read your citations?
>Some scientists hold more 'acceptable' views, ourselves included. We think racial and gender differences in IQ are not innate but instead reflect environmental challenges. Although we endorse this view, plenty of scholars remain unpersuaded. Whereas our 'politically correct' work garners us praise, speaking invitations and book contracts, challengers are demeaned, ostracized and occasionally threatened with tenure revocation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:47:02 No.13947371 Report

Quoted By: >>13947374 >>13947377 >>13947383

>>13947349
Based on scientific evidence. The Wikipedia articles refute the hereditarian position.
So does this: https://psychology.fandom.com/wiki/Race_and_intelligence_(Explanations)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:47:08 No.13947372 Report

Quoted By: >>13947386

>>13947360
>can you answer this question
>j-just r-read a book
Holy cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:47:36 No.13947374 Report

Quoted By: >>13947381

>>13947371
Wikipedia articles don't refute anything because they're not a scientific source. Take your meds. So far the only scientific evidence provided is against you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:48:10 No.13947377 Report

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>>13947371
Wikipedia is not a source m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:49:09 No.13947380 Report

Quoted By: >>13947392

>>13947366
That's what the article is about. It still concludes the evidence is for the environmental explanation and that it's the consensus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:49:10 No.13947381 Report

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>>13947374
You're wasting your time debating another hereditarian who's pretending to be a retarded environmentalist for the lulz

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:49:54 No.13947383 Report

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>>13947371
Not really. Neither of them refutes it.
I would say the psychology.wiki is more balanced and gives more space to hereditarian explanations but neither refutes it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:51:02 No.13947386 Report

Quoted By: >>13947397

>>13947372
I don't care about your shit-tier corporate ideology. I'm just trying to help you become less retarded, and that's not going to happen when your prefrontal-cortex-deficient brain mistakenly thinks it's having a debate. You need to read a book, nigger. You're not capable of recognizing when someone is smarter and better-educated than you, so you need to read a book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:53:58 No.13947392 Report

Quoted By: >>13947393

>>13947380
Except it has been proven to be mostly hereditary and they only claim that there is a consensus they agree with. OPs survey contradicts them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:54:41 No.13947393 Report

Quoted By: >>13947405 >>13947415

>>13947392
OP's survey had like a 5% response rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:55:00 No.13947397 Report

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>>13947386
Again, cope. You cannot even answer his question and you use wikipedia as a source.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:55:33 No.13947399 Report

Quoted By: >>13947540

>>13946123
It's going to take a company openly using racist AI to make business decisions beating its competition for years on end to wake normies up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:57:07 No.13947405 Report

Quoted By: >>13947422

>>13947393
How do you know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:57:18 No.13947407 Report

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>>13946130
>train ai on government data manipulated to make minorities look better than they are
>it isn't enough so the ai reaches the logical conclusion anyways
but keep on coping

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:59:01 No.13947414 Report

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ITT:
>citing wikipedia as a source
>muh consensus science
>genetics denialism

All you plebbitors need to be fucking neck'd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 18:59:06 No.13947415 Report

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>>13947393
The Snyderman & Rothman survey from 1987 had much higher response rate and the % of environmentalists was 15%

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 19:00:27 No.13947422 Report

Quoted By: >>13947430

>>13947405
Got it wrong, 20% responded, 5% actually took part in the study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4804158/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 19:02:54 No.13947430 Report

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>>13947422
wrong study nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 19:08:04 No.13947447 Report

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>>13946130
Fed it real world data and it will draw real world conclusions. If you feed it Africa it will not pull out a Wakanda out of its cyberbutt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Dec 2021 19:38:27 No.13947540 Report

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>>13947399
You mean like how white people beat niggers at anything intellectual for millennia on end? Oh wait.

Anonymous

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