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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 02:30:49 2021 No.13921459 View Reply Original Report

Why was myocarditis shilled so hard?

Chance of dying from Covid > Getting myocarditis

And I cherry picked the study that had the worst myocarditis rate for the worst bracket

springer uk: ages 0-34, .004% IFR
cdc covid planning: ages 18–49, .0005% IFR
nejm israel study: chance of vaccine-induced myocarditis for men 16-19 is .00013%

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 02:37:17 No.13921485 Report

Quoted By: >>13922537 >>13923723 >>13924721

>>13921459
It spooks people that fit people get it. Afaik only fat or sick people under 30 die to covid.

People feel like theyre being lied to so theyre gonna keep spinning narratives that fit that feeling.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 02:38:57 No.13921490 Report

Quoted By: >>13922343 >>13923882 >>13923926

It's only being shilled by non qualified individuals in right wing circles, literally way more likely to develop heart problems from sitting on your ass all day on 4chan than getting the jab or even covid would ever give you.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 02:46:00 No.13921511 Report

Quoted By: >>13921678 >>13922295 >>13922644 >>13923891

>>13921459
It's retarded shizo circlejerk. Not defending the vaxx, it's useless too. But it won't kill you like the shizos on Pol tell you.
It's just a big pharma scam that they got away with

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 04:00:47 No.13921668 Report

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>>13921459
>nejm israel study: chance of vaccine-induced myocarditis for men 16-19 is .00013%
What the fuck is this shit on /sci/? You should just delete this thread and save yourself from this ridiculous embarrassment while very few people have seen it.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 04:07:05 No.13921678 Report

Quoted By: >>13922263 >>13922293

>>13921511
>But it won't kill you
I don't give a shit about death. I give a shit about permanently becoming a frail fatass because my heart is damaged due to myocarditis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7inaTiDKaU
Of course that distinction is too much information for your brainlet to handle.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 05:31:13 No.13921926 Report

Quoted By: >>13926715

>>13921459
>nejm israel study: chance of vaccine-induced myocarditis for men 16-19 is .00013%
Interesting considering even the CDC, which has downplayed the side effects, admits to a probable .01% rate.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 05:44:12 No.13921958 Report

Quoted By: >>13922295

>>13921459
I'm not sure why it's shilled so hard. Perhaps there was some organisation behind it. I think it's become self-perpetuating. The antivaxx narrative appeals to retarded 4chedditeurs for a number of reasons.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 07:36:14 No.13922247 Report

Quoted By: >>13922295

>>13921459
the risk is higher than the incidence among unvaccinated persons and among historical controls.
I'd rather get one dose of the vaccine like they do in the UK than have to quit sport and go to a cardiologist for 6 months.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 07:48:07 No.13922263 Report

Quoted By: >>13922295

>>13921678
>boomer "doctor" (a nurse with a phd in meme studies) interviews a retarded burger who had a panic attack
vaxxsisters... did we get too cocky?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:02:36 No.13922290 Report

Quoted By: >>13922295 >>13922661

>>13921459
It's the pol influx. You're more likely to get myocarditis from covid than the vaccine, even if you're otherwise healthy

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:04:52 No.13922293 Report

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>>13921678
You can get myocarditis from covid.
Also:
>posting your youtube research
You fit the antivax stereotype completely

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:06:20 No.13922295 Report

Quoted By: >>13922297

>>13921958
>>13922263
>>13922247
>>13922290
>>13921511
this scam will never end until these people get executed

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:06:52 No.13922297 Report

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>>13922295
Great rebuttal

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:14:38 No.13922311 Report

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>>13921459

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:16:06 No.13922317 Report

Quoted By: >>13922339 >>13923499 >>13924224

>>13922311
You're more than six times as likely to get myocarditis from covid than the vaccine chud. Go back

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:20:38 No.13922329 Report

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>>13921459
The incredibly small percentages for all of these really makes me wonder why anyone gives a shit.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:23:53 No.13922339 Report

Quoted By: >>13922350

>>13922317
>billions of synthetic lnp that go everywhere in the body unimpeded by the immune system to deliver genetic code that makes cells produce a toxic protein gets less access to the heart that a virus that is immediately attacked by the immune system on entering the eyes, nose, lungs that can only interact via ace2
yeah na

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:26:05 No.13922343 Report

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>>13921490
>right wing circles
God you're pathetic

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:28:27 No.13922350 Report

Quoted By: >>13922509

>>13922339
Nice regurgitation anon, very well done. You must impress your peers in high school

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:29:12 No.13922355 Report

Quoted By: >>13923770

>it's just mild heart damage don't worry about it
>people start dying en masse from heart failure
>whatever! could be anything! stop global warming!
Science!

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:31:00 No.13922358 Report

Quoted By: >>13922406 >>13923503

https://twitter.com/JamesfWells/status/1463928686395240451
https://twitter.com/IvoryHecker/status/1458504347671793671

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 08:31:14 No.13922359 Report

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>>13921459
>t. US government propagandist

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 09:01:19 No.13922406 Report

Quoted By: >>13922512

>>13922358
This is why I hate the whole RRR vs ARR thing. Imagine the audacity in fearmongering peopoe by saying that theyre 10x more likely to die to Covid if they dont get the vaccine, when the numbers we are talking about are going from 0.0004% to 0.00004%. Sure, it's 10 times alright, but the absolute difference is so fucking insignificant, that you might as well take into account the 100 different other things that could kill you on the way to get the vaccine. Yes, both ARR and RRR are the same statistically, but their tone is completely different. What a fucking scam.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 09:12:35 No.13922426 Report

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>>13921459
get back to me in 18 months, be sure to have all the vaccine related myocarditis stats handy

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 09:20:52 No.13922439 Report

Quoted By: >>13922488

>>13921459
german government says the chance of myocarditis via vaccine is 1/5000. Thats 0.02% which is already higher than anything you list. Chance of getting covid is like 1/25000 chance of ICU is 1/50000 .

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 09:48:54 No.13922488 Report

Quoted By: >>13922859 >>13923514

>>13922439
>german government says the chance of myocarditis via vaccine is 1/5000.
Source?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 09:51:37 No.13922490 Report

Quoted By: >>13922539 >>13923530

math simple

covid bad
vaccine bad

vaccine does not help much if at all against covid bad

you may get covid
but you can choose to not take vaccine

simple solution, dont get vaccine

be thankful to vaccine beta testers though

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 10:02:04 No.13922509 Report

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>>13922350
seethe

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 10:03:58 No.13922512 Report

Quoted By: >>13922519 >>13922564 >>13922606 >>13923539

>>13922406
madness
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/uk-data-shows-the-vaccines-are-not

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 10:10:13 No.13922519 Report

Quoted By: >>13922533

>>13922512
uuuuh how many adverse effects in that study?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 10:24:58 No.13922533 Report

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>>13922519
don't know they've released post eua ae under foia (pfizer wanted it classified for 55 years)
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/leaked-pfizer-post-marketing-safety

summary of all cause morbidity from covid vaccine trials not including the 6 month pfizer follow up
https://www.scivisionpub.com/pdfs/us-covid19-vaccines-proven-to-cause-more-harm-than-good-based-on-pivotal-clinical-trial-data-analyzed-using-the-proper-scientific--1811.pdf

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality-e07
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality-49c

that 6 month follow up all cause death has now been updated to have 21 in treatment group and 17 in placebo
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/more-people-died-in-the-key-clinical

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 10:27:40 No.13922537 Report

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>>13921485
fpbp

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 10:28:20 No.13922539 Report

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>>13922490
>math simple
>just make it up

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 10:47:18 No.13922564 Report

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>>13922512
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/what-is-the-number-needed-to-vaccinate

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:06:13 No.13922599 Report

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>>13921459
Its because vaccine shills insist everything is 1000% safe with zero risk and also the vaxx is sexy and also it increases your IQ. So you know they are just liars.
Maybe 6 years ago i spoke with an employee of the european organization that keeps records of drugs and vaccine side affects as they happen in use by the general population. This young autistic unstable woman told me that vaccines (in general this was before covid) do have some risks and some babies get fucked up but the risks of the diseases they prevent is much higher, so its all about picking your poison. Its like putting nitrates and nitrites on meat, it will prevent e-coli and salmonella but also create its own smaller problems. She also said that theres a poliicy of brazenly lying and denying minor side effects because they believe then the people wont take the vaccines.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:07:36 No.13922606 Report

Quoted By: >>13922621

>>13922512
The most insane part? Theyre not wrong by saying that it's "100% more effective" as the example puts it. This is just the most basic examples of how you can use facts to spin a narrative. And if youd say that the numbers they gave are wrong, theyd be correct in saying that their data is factual. What an amazing way to manipulate.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:15:02 No.13922621 Report

Quoted By: >>13922629 >>13922648

>>13922606
I mean I don't think 1/22,000 is statistically significant but if it is the increased risk of all cause death of 23% has to be too?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:17:30 No.13922629 Report

Quoted By: >>13922648

>>13922621
oh wait it's actually 52% when you include the 5 that died post unblinding

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:20:30 No.13922635 Report

Quoted By: >>13922646

>>13922297
That's funny when your rebuttal is a literal straw man, you pharma shills should take 15x the normal dose, you means its utterly safe according to you. I'm not asking you to take 50x the does so go to it mr lab coat.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:21:32 No.13922637 Report

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>>13922533
This, ignore the shills/

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:23:26 No.13922644 Report

Quoted By: >>13922658

>>13921511
Well I know that the jab most probably won't give me myocardities as a young 25yo male. But what about double vaccination + n*2.5 booster shots, where n is the amount of years left to live? We have no idea how the risk develops

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:23:30 No.13922646 Report

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>>13922635

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:24:22 No.13922648 Report

Quoted By: >>13922683

>>13922621
>>13922629
Keep in mind this is from the pharmas mouth so its probably understated.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:25:47 No.13922657 Report

Quoted By: >>13922674

>>13922646
Kind of proves my point desu.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:26:32 No.13922658 Report

Quoted By: >>13922751 >>13923543

>>13922644
even if we assumed every shot from here on out was aspirated and intramuscular how much of the lnp hits the blood still?
then how what is the lnp dose in the blood to cause clinical myocarditis

and then does the mrna reverse transcribe into the genome so that you produce spike forever

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:26:42 No.13922661 Report

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>>13922290
Last I read it's about 1/6th of the covid risk. Now one needs to evaluate what is more probable, 6 vaccine shots or getting covid once. I already had covid and it was super mild, I won't try the vaccine therapy

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:32:57 No.13922674 Report

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>>13922657
I know I just wanted to quantify your insult

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:37:28 No.13922683 Report

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>>13922648
yes https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:37:42 No.13922684 Report

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>>13921459
>Chance of dying from Covid > Getting myocarditis
My chances of dying from COVID: about one in a million
My chances of dying from corporate injections: your owners and programmers make it impossible to know
The only rational thing to do is to refuse getting the shot. Neck yourself.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:50:55 No.13922725 Report

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>>13921459
never gonna take it

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 11:53:07 No.13922730 Report

Quoted By:

>>13921459
tinfoilhat schizos are like this

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 12:03:03 No.13922751 Report

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>>13922658

I have no idea and the scientists involved in the development probably don't know either

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 12:51:30 No.13922859 Report

Quoted By: >>13922876

>>13922488
https://www.zusammengegencorona.de/impfen/logistik-und-recht/impfkomplikation-das-koennen-sie-tun/
>Schwerwiegende Nebenwirkungen bezeichnen Fachleute wie zum Beispiel die STIKO-Mitglieder auch als Impfkomplikationen. Das Risiko einer schwerwiegenden unerwünschten Arzneimittelwirkung nach einer COVID-19-Impfung ist sehr gering und liegt bei gerade einmal 0,02 Prozent – betrifft also durchschnittlich nur eine von 5.000 Personen. Auch Spätfolgen beziehungsweise Langzeit-Nebenwirkungen sind Expertinnen und Experten zufolge sehr unwahrscheinlich, denn die meisten Nebenwirkungen treten in der Regel innerhalb weniger Stunden oder Tage nach der Impfung auf. Langzeitfolgen, die sich erst Jahre später zeigen, sind bei bisherigen Impfungen nicht bekannt und auch bei den Corona-Impfstoffen nicht zu erwarten.
they admit 1 in 5000 you can assume its a lot higher since the german government is widely known as being highly incompetent and refusing any research which could judge the effectiveness of their measures.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 12:59:41 No.13922876 Report

Quoted By: >>13923504

>>13922859
Wtf is this for real? The chance that covid would fuck me up is way lower for sure. There are like 0.02% hospitalizations in my age bracket and those unlucky ones are most probably fat or immunocompromised

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 17:37:04 No.13923499 Report

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>>13922311
They are just finding out what Taiwan discovered immediately after they started administrating the mRNA vaccines on teenagers (which subsquently led to them being halted by healthcare authorities). These vaccines are absolutely dogshit for a segment of the population that is at minimal risk from COVID-19.

>>13922317
Shut the fuck your retarded idiot. "Science" is not some stupid papers published with hand-picked data and ridiculous extrapolations and peer-reviewed by other faggots - it's first and foremost observational and empirical data.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 17:40:22 No.13923503 Report

Quoted By: >>13923618 >>13923743

>>13922358
Same thing is happening all over Europe. MOMO data shows a ridiculous high excess mortality in the age bracket of 15-44 years starting around week 22 (about the time 2nd dose of the vaccine starts rolling out).

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 17:40:38 No.13923504 Report

Quoted By: >>13923561 >>13923618

>>13922876
Suffering from neuropathology due to contracting covid in any form is a lot higher than simply needing to be hospitalized. I can't believe this is /sci/ and you guys don't even care about losing IQ points due to brain inflammation, even just from a mild case.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 17:42:38 No.13923514 Report

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>>13922488
Portugal has also said that the chance of myocarditis is 1 in 10000 but I'm more inclined to believe Germany numbers because their population is younger and notification of severe adverse side-effects is poor in Portugal.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 17:45:25 No.13923530 Report

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>>13922490
It would be simply if you could make that decision for yourself but the pearl clutchers and the government want to destroy you if you don't do as they say.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 17:47:25 No.13923539 Report

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>>13922512
Yeah, but what about Long Fibromyalgia?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 17:47:50 No.13923543 Report

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>>13922658
Stop focusing on this aspiration issue. Taiwan aspirates before injection and they observed the same problems with the vaccines. You can check the incidence of side effects by dose administered and you'll see it's not that far off from what European and the US have reported so far.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 17:53:10 No.13923561 Report

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>>13923504
>muh Long Covid
Shameful your vaccines won't protect you from pretend-to-be serious syndrome if you get infected with COVID-19 and still are fully vaccinated. Guess your fear mongering bullshit tactics backfired when you thought it was a good idea to include some pseudo disorder that encapsulates over 200 symptoms in a 6 month period.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:13:58 No.13923618 Report

Quoted By: >>13923631

>>13923503
I autisticly track euromomo and it's crazy how the numbers are twice as high as last year for 15-44

>>13923504
Your body has small inflamations all the time, I don't care that a literal who virus makes me tired for 2 days. Maybe this is due to my high testosterone. Oh I also lost my smell and taste for 2 months. MUUUUH LOONG COVIID, HOW AM I GONNA EVER RECOVER??

Instrumentalized nothingburger

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:14:08 No.13923620 Report

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>>13921459
>springer uk: ages 0-34, .004% IFR
>cdc covid planning: ages 18–49, .0005% IFR
You can't trust political epedemilogy and virology. Even in my small circle of people there are 2 deaths and 3 severe illnesses with ITC and one will not recover her hole life.

I give a shit on officials, there are the biggest liars the wrongest negative selection possible and the corruptest of all. You are facing the ethical Untermensch, have fun (only 2 weeks?).

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:20:17 No.13923631 Report

Quoted By: >>13923660 >>13923747 >>13923776

>>13923618
>lost smell and taste
Unfortunately, that means means you sustained some form of neuropathy and have an increased risk of developing Alzheimer's later in life. They are even advising working professions like doctors and lawyers to get neurological testing to make sure that they can still do their jobs. I actually care about my brain health.

"...could even make COVID survivors at high risk for Alzheimer’s disease in the future. Individuals whose professions involve medical care, legal advice, financial planning, or leadership — including political leaders — may need to be carefully evaluated with formal neuropsychological testing, including measures of sustained attention, to assure that their cognition has not been compromised."
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-hidden-long-term-cognitive-effects-of-covid-2020100821133

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:26:38 No.13923660 Report

Quoted By: >>13923677

>>13923631
can you please stop proving how anxiety ridden you are? Take your xan please. I'm unironically the laziest person I know and still manage to avg around 5.4 out of 6. in my CS undergrad. Bad air and alcohol will fuck your brain way more than some dubious china flu. Also the guy from the website you sent me seems to do nothing else than alzheimers research. When you got a hammer, everything looks like a nail

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:31:40 No.13923677 Report

Quoted By: >>13923699

>>13923660
I'm pretty sure that people don't suffer measurable and lasting cognitive deficits after a weekend bender, or even moderate levels of drinking after years and years, even though it's an organic solvent, but quite a few people thought to be fully recovered from a bought of covid sure do. I've got ADHD, so I'm not taking any chances with my IQ points, and I'd advice everyone to avoid getting a covid brain.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:36:17 No.13923699 Report

Quoted By: >>13923707

>>13923677
I got adhd too so what. Our short term memory is fucked anyway and if you have alzheimers in your family you're double fucked. Also there are like 75k people with hard neurological adverse reactions after vaccination in EU. I much rather infect myself with the china flu every 2 years than taking 6 mrna shots per 2 years

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:39:56 No.13923707 Report

Quoted By: >>13923714

>>13923699
That's not how that works; that's not how any of this works.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:41:22 No.13923714 Report

Quoted By: >>13923761

>>13923707
You mean there are no prople with severe neurological issues after the vaccine?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:43:05 No.13923723 Report

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>>13921485

This.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:48:56 No.13923743 Report

Quoted By: >>13923948

>>13923503
Only because England is singlehandedly dragging the number up. There are plenty of other highly vaccinated countries without high excess mortality.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:50:16 No.13923747 Report

Quoted By: >>13923773

>>13923631
>>lost smell and taste
That's quite normal even for a cold. Had that several times in live and people i work with name me "superbrain" even now.

The fact that you don't mention this everyday symptom can interpreted differently, none of them good for you.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:52:27 No.13923761 Report

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>>13923714
Just so that nobody thinks I'm pulling stuff outta my ass
https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:55:58 No.13923770 Report

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>>13922355
It's called "mild" because it follows a far more benign course than the viral myocarditis that's commonly seen in clinical settings.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.05.21264581v1

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:56:23 No.13923773 Report

Quoted By: >>13923782 >>13923802

>>13923747
Did you just compare neuropathy with having your sinuses clogged from congestion? The two are not the same. The cold virus does not cause encephalitic inflammation nor damage to the areas of the brain that control sense of taste and smell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:57:26 No.13923776 Report

Quoted By: >>13923791 >>13923795

>>13923631
Fuck, tell me this isn't true. I got covid a year ago and it was mild except for some coughing and loss of taste and smell.
I also have ADD and I really can't afford to lose any IQ points or else it's over.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 18:58:31 No.13923782 Report

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>>13923773
Dumdum, the flu can break your smell receptors just as covid

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:01:59 No.13923791 Report

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>>13923776
> mild covid infection
> irreparable loss in IQ
choose one

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:02:39 No.13923795 Report

Quoted By: >>13923809

>>13923776
I mean, there's no sense in worry about it now, but if you're concerned then you could take a neuropsych evaluation just to make sure that your working memory is not compromised -- and if it is, then what skills or tools you can utilize to function at the level you need to.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:04:50 No.13923802 Report

Quoted By: >>13923824

>>13923773
>Did you just compare neuropathy with having your sinuses clogged from congestion?
Don't know, never seen a doctor in my life except for some papers and the teeth. Myself know thes fuckup fearmongering of the whole medical sector. Work long enough there and had some high ranked girlfriends.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:06:32 No.13923809 Report

Quoted By: >>13923826

>>13923795
I took an official IQ test half a year ago and nothing out of the ordinary came up afaik
Another time post-covid I had above average short and long term memory

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:11:01 No.13923824 Report

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>>13923802
Did you know that anxiety disorder is a severe precondition for covid hospitalization? Right behind obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure and age. Would have been a shame if public figures like politicians and scientists had decided to fearmonger all day long. Fortunately we live in the information age where everything is handled rationally so people are at ease

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:11:12 No.13923826 Report

Quoted By: >>13923858 >>13923911

>>13923809
Good, if you have a baseline from before you contracted covid then it would be really helpful to compare. However, it sounds like you got lucky and there is nothing to worry about. I'd still want to get a vaccine and booster just as preventative measures though.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:19:28 No.13923858 Report

Quoted By: >>13923908

>>13923826
What's the point? Vaccine efficacy against omicron is probably very low unless he wants to vaccinate against the Alpha/Delta variant for whatever reason it doesn't make much sense.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:23:54 No.13923882 Report

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>>13921490
>it's only being discussed in circles that don't consist of drooling fucktards with little to no brain function
FTFY

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:25:38 No.13923891 Report

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>>13921511
>It's just a big pharma scam that they got away with
Ah yes and last year even saying this was "schizo." And next year you will move the goal posts again and again and again as morons like you always do as you get proven wrong, again, again and again. It's all so tiring

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:27:19 No.13923900 Report

Quoted By: >>13923930

>Why was myocarditis shilled so hard?

Russian propaganda. They push antivax bullshit to slow down EU recovery.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:29:03 No.13923908 Report

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>>13923858
There's no evidence to suggest that vaccine efficacy against omicron will be low. On the other hand, being vaccinated protects against the nasty neurocognitive side effects of covid infection. It just makes sense that if you're interested in protecting brain health, you'd want to be up to date on vaccinations, especially at this time.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:30:12 No.13923911 Report

Quoted By: >>13923945

>>13923826
Vaccines do not stop the development of your meme syndrome.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/long-covid-risk-no-lower-with-breakthrough-infection-covid-19-survival-improves-2021-11-24/

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:34:51 No.13923926 Report

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>>13921490
>mfw you are the non qualified person in the right wing circle
Lie with dogs and you wake up with fleas. Having any modicum of common sense is now "right wing." Congratulations on pitching your tent with literal retards. They will excommunicate you the moment you disturb the hive mind. Dont come running to us when they do

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:37:16 No.13923930 Report

Quoted By: >>13923957

>>13923900
imagine believing this. Putin also memed Trump into office right?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:40:11 No.13923945 Report

Quoted By: >>13923977

>>13923911
And vaccines protect against getting long covid. I don't see the problem here. Your saying that just because breakthrough covid infections are still possible you shouldn't get vaccinated, even though being up to date on vaccinations is >90 effective at preventing covid infection in the first place? Well, sorry, that just doesn't make sense. If you care about your cognition, you ought to get vaccinated.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:41:13 No.13923948 Report

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>>13923743
Estonia, France, Germany, Greece and Spain also have slightly elevated mortality numbers (though none of them exceed the upper bound limits). It would be very interesting to look up on data (in this age bracket) of hospitalizations or cases over the course of this year after the second roll-out of vaccines. I don't know if there's an european agency like MOMO to research this or if you need to see it for each country individually from their own national healthcare databases but I'm fairly certain some things will pop-up when all the data from 2021 is compilled.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:43:09 No.13923957 Report

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>>13923930
Yes

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:44:50 No.13923962 Report

Quoted By: >>13923973

if the vaccine is so undeniably good, then why do they have to force people to take it?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:49:11 No.13923973 Report

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>>13923962
wut

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:49:46 No.13923977 Report

Quoted By: >>13923999

>>13923945
>I don't see the problem here. Your saying that just because breakthrough covid infections are still possible you shouldn't get vaccinated, even though being up to date on vaccinations is >90 effective at preventing covid infection in the first place?
How the hell can you think write with a straight face when looking up at the data from Public England Health? Vaccine is not >90% effective at preventing COVID-19 infection - if this was true, then most new cases popping on the UK would NOT be from vaccinated people. And that's just people who were tested, I imagine the real number is much higher.

I honestly don't get what your angle is here. Maybe some psyops to get the brainlets on /sci/ who think they are intelligent not to lose IQ points (though if they had high IQ worth saving I'm sure they would be smart enough to question all this in the first place) or you're just too hysterical.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 19:55:20 No.13923999 Report

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>>13923977
Yeah dude, I'm totally psyop-ing you right now. I've got this board completely flustered, you've discovered my big secret plan. What do you mean most new cases in the UK are from vaccinated people? If you last received a vaccine 1 year ago, then you're no longer vaccinated.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 20:01:43 No.13924025 Report

Quoted By: >>13924065

>>13923999
Abhorrent post, anon...waste of trips

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 20:09:29 No.13924065 Report

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>>13924025
We don't do trips where I come from

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 20:32:35 No.13924192 Report

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>>13923999
Good thing a year has not gone by since people received their first or second dose.

There you go. Here's your >90% effective at preventing COVID-19 infection.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 20:38:03 No.13924215 Report

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>>13923999
>YOU HAVENT BEEN INJECTED FOR A YEAR?!?
>WHAT ARE YOU A RIGHT WINGER OR SOMETHING?
>YOU ARENT VACCINATED.
>REEEEEEE

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 20:39:40 No.13924224 Report

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>>13922317
>You're more than six times as likely to get myocarditis from covid than the vaccine chud. Go back
After each dose. However, a person who has already had COVID-19, and who already has better protection than any vaccine can offer, is still required to get vaccinated in many countries where previous infection is not considered. They're at more risk of myocarditis from a vaccine than someone who wasn't previously infected. Not only are certain governments not "following the science" by denying the immunity gained from prior infection, but they're putting those people at even more risk by forcing them to get vaccinated. Many of those were health care workers who were infected before a vaccine was even available. They're simultaneously acting like they're mandating for the greater good in order to prevent hospitals from overflowing, while shitting on the people who work in those hospitals.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 20:41:19 No.13924235 Report

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>>13921459
cope
you now have to not only face the reality that you were wrong and your whole worldview and sense of superiority is stupid but also, that I and people like me were right

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 20:50:49 No.13924281 Report

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>>13924224
The logic is simple, anon. These dishonest pseudo-intellectual "scientists" assume you're gonna get COVID-19 if you don't take a vaccine, therefore they apply the same odds to getting myocarditis by vaccine. Of course this a bunch of crooked bullshit because as antibody (N) levels show us (at least in the UK), not more than 20% of population has had contact with the virus (therefore infection) for over 2 years putting the odds of contracting the virus at roughly 10% per year.

They also fail to account what repeated doses will do to myocarditis though we currently know that successive doses seem to amp up the risk. I guess regardless we will know the numbers in the upcoming months since these dishonest faggots will continue to push for younger people to get their third dose.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 21:01:29 No.13924322 Report

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>>13923999
>Vaccinated for a year
it isn't a vaccination than, it is a fucking subscription.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 21:03:41 No.13924330 Report

Quoted By: >>13924497

“pandemic related”

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 21:52:25 No.13924497 Report

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>>13924330
I saw this on /fit/. 300,000 out of 47 million is still a low percentage.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Dec 2021 22:52:12 No.13924721 Report

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>>13921485
>It spooks people that fit people get it.
All kind of people get it, only fit people notice it. Had one after a flue a while back and the cure was neet life for two weeks.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 03:12:05 No.13925430 Report

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>>13921459
Idk why, but what concerns me is how dismissive the media/cdc/doctors are of it. Everything I read says it’s mild and you get over it with “treatments and rest”. There are no treatments for it, the emergency room released me with ibuprofen. I’m a 32 y/o very healthy athlete and I got perimyocarditis in may, just started to recover from it fully in October. For about 1.5-2 months I was unable to do anything physically strenuous or work. Now I get winded doing very simple exercises. They shill it as not a big deal but if I had this when I was in school it would have completely derailed my life.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 03:29:34 No.13925472 Report

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>>13925430
Reading shit like this relieves my anxiety a bit. I have GAD and was worried about getting myocarditis but I was able to maintain my running schedule just fine after my jab and didn't have spiking heart rate, chest pain, or anything like that. That was 30 weeks ago so I'm in the clear.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 03:30:58 No.13925476 Report

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>>13925430
it's a huge deal though; heart tissue doesn't regenerate like other organs, it's permanent damage - be it viral or vaccine induced

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 03:33:17 No.13925482 Report

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>>13925476
Take paxil
https://medicine.temple.edu/news/common-antidepressant-may-hold-key-heart-failure-reversal

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 03:35:29 No.13925487 Report

Quoted By: >>13926365 >>13926699

>>13921459
We’re talking about “people” who spent 10 years complaining about additives in vaccines and immediately switched to something else when a new method of creating vaccines didn’t require additives. What did you expect?

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 08:46:42 No.13926365 Report

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>>13925487
I hope you realize people like you will be lined up against the wall when this shit ends.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 09:06:53 No.13926412 Report

Quoted By: >>13926711

>>13925476
Heart tissue does regenerate extremely slowly.

One episode of myocarditis won't cause enough damage to matter 2-3 years down the line. Chronic myocarditis on the other hand probably will, but the inflammation from the vaccine isn't chronic, you'll have it for at most a day really, just don't strain your heart in the meantime and you may not even have any damage at all.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 12:13:48 No.13926699 Report

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>>13925487
We dont want any of your shit, take it yourself and leave us alone
Why is that so hard for your kind

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 12:18:23 No.13926711 Report

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>>13926412
>t shill
Very comforting.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Dec 2021 12:19:56 No.13926715 Report

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>>13921926
Yeah that Israel study says the same. OP is just a faggot

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