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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 19:29:58 2021 No.13883585 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13883594 >>13883600 >>13883601 >>13883750 >>13883786 >>13884294 >>13884295 >>13884312 >>13884659 >>13884726 >>13884795 >>13885215

Probability is a lie.
Everything is a 50/50, it either happens or it doesn't.
Prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:31:16 No.13883590 Report

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From the outlook of hindsight, yes. Probability is foresight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:32:09 No.13883594 Report

Quoted By: >>13883603 >>13885332

>>13883585
Thing that happened had a 100% probability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:32:59 No.13883600 Report

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>>13883585
try "I am an idiot" for yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:33:44 No.13883601 Report

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>>13883585
Outcomes are binary, not their probabilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:34:03 No.13883603 Report

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>>13883594
Yeah? Than what the fuck is chance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:39:02 No.13883617 Report

Quoted By: >>13883623 >>13883761

>>13883603
nothing, determinism is real
chance is a metaphor for lack of knowledge

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:42:00 No.13883623 Report

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>>13883617
Not OP.
>determinism is real
Don't tell God how to conduct his universe..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:43:41 No.13883628 Report

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>>13883623
I'm an occasionalist, to be specific. There is no functional difference between determinism and God enacting his will over things.
>none can withhold what he gives

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 19:45:59 No.13883639 Report

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>>13883628
>There is no functional difference between determinism and God enacting his will over things.
An all powerful entity does not have to constantly interfere. He is not forced to.
There is a difference between being aware of all and doing all.
>And on the 7th day he rested

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 20:21:37 No.13883742 Report

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>>13883639
>>>/x/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 20:24:36 No.13883747 Report

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>>13883639
There is no functional difference between deism and theism either

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 20:26:02 No.13883750 Report

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>>13883585
How many times did you lose that 50/50 on lottery tickets?

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Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 20:27:54 No.13883761 Report

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>>13883617
>chance is a metaphor for lack of knowledge
what if full knowledge is impossible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 20:32:43 No.13883773 Report

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>>13883761
Full knowledge is impossible for humans but not for Laplace's demon aka God

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 20:36:08 No.13883785 Report

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>>13883773
>bringing the Laplace deamon
you literally said what I said in other words.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 20:36:14 No.13883786 Report

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>>13883585
i could if time was continuous

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 22:09:34 No.13884078 Report

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>>13883761
I can't even look at a normal distribution without thinking of iq now. Fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:16:58 No.13884294 Report

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>>13883585
What about flipping a coin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:17:31 No.13884295 Report

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>>13883585
If you wanna use retard logic then probability of anything happening is 100% because the alternatives didn't happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 23:23:03 No.13884312 Report

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>>13883585
no one cares what you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 01:46:03 No.13884659 Report

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>>13883585
what if two things happen? 50/50 + 50/50 = 100/100

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 02:05:46 No.13884726 Report

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>>13883585
Probability is a measure of ignorance. A probability of 50/50 indicates maximum ignorance, so if everything is 50/50 for you then I have some bad news...

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 02:30:18 No.13884795 Report

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>>13883585
probability only exists in your head

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 02:31:26 No.13884800 Report

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I got through calc 1-3, differential equations, undergrad physics, 3/4 of an electrical engineering, and introductory probability theory filtered my ass like nothing else

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 03:13:45 No.13884947 Report

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>there is a 50/50 chance that I could die at any moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 04:57:28 No.13885186 Report

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>>13884947
Which means you should just stop caring. Being scared that you can die makes no sense, because there's always a chance you can die. You can somewhat minimize the risk by not doing stupid shit like base jumping or getting involved in an armed conflict but you can never minimize it down to zero. It's impossible.
GOD = RNG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 05:10:57 No.13885215 Report

Quoted By: >>13885234

>>13883585
lets play a game

we roll a dice, a 2,3,4,5,6 is rolled you give me $100

if a 1 is rolled i give you $110

we play this game 1000 times

if there is a 50 50 chance of either of us winning, you will take more money from me and profit

justify using your logic why you will refuse to play this game with me

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Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 05:12:51 No.13885219 Report

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>>13884947
>tfw no gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 05:22:40 No.13885234 Report

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>>13885215
50/50 it is a push and a waste of time. You sound like you have bad luck though, so might be worth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 05:32:24 No.13885252 Report

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>>13883747
there is no funcional difference between being and not-being, You could be all philosophical zombies and me the only soul in the universe yet i wouldn't ever know, same goes for the inverse case

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 06:04:56 No.13885332 Report

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>>13883594
But they also could have not happened, ergo 50/50 chances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Nov 2021 06:06:31 No.13885339 Report

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>>13883761
>what if full knowledge is impossible?
Then it has to be impossible for any hypothetical creature, too. Just because humans don't have the knowledge or capability to understand something to their fullest extend, doesn't mean that there can't be an entity that might understand something fully.
As such, true randomness can never truly be proven.

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