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Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 07:22:45 2021 No.13878551 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13879166 >>13879209 >>13879481 >>13879492 >>13880706

Anybody else with Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder? My circadian rhythm is a mess. I can't seem to be able to sleep until after 5:00 AM no matter what I do.
I know it's probably related to my ADHD. Should I try melatonin pills?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 07:51:56 No.13878601 Report

Quoted By: >>13879174

no

sleep as much as you can then be outside so you can view the sunrise
get as much light during the day as you can, nap if you have to but no longer than 30 minutes

view the sunset then after 10pm start turning off sources of blue light
take magnesium, have a hot shower and then go to bed without your phone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 12:39:24 No.13879159 Report

Quoted By: >>13879162

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 12:41:21 No.13879162 Report

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>>13879159
tell me about work anon, and life, how are things going for you?

also do you smoke? do you drink? vape?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 12:43:16 No.13879166 Report

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>>13878551
pills will get you dependent, do a breathing exercises it help me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 12:47:16 No.13879174 Report

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>>13878601
This is great advice also perhaps get like 20-30 minutes of cardio in. When your head hits the pillow it should feel somewhat blissful. Aim for that feeling every night, if you don’t have it, I feel sorry for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:01:48 No.13879209 Report

Quoted By: >>13879211

>>13878551
Hey me too. I started taking 3 mg melatonin pills about 6 months ago. At the beginning, it was a godsend, I'd fall asleep within half an hour of taking a pill. But after a couple months I developed a tolerance and now it has almost no effect, which is strange because I'd read that you don't develop tolerance to melatonin. My situation is that if I get my sleep pattern on track, I can fall asleep on time at night. But the slightest disturbance, like taking a 30 minute nap in the afternoon, is enough to keep me awake until 5-6 am.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:03:06 No.13879211 Report

Quoted By: >>13879228

>>13879209
>strange because I'd read that you don't develop tolerance to melatonin
Nothing strange about it. The placebo waned off. Maletonin doesn't affect sleep latency more than placebo.

Gon !!UYaySxw8qD1

Gon !!UYaySxw8qD1 Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:06:35 No.13879220 Report

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Whenever my sleeping pattern is a mess, I usually stay awake for 48 hours and find a reasonable time after those 48 hours to sleep (usually around 10 pm or 11 pm).

Melatonin pills don't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:09:24 No.13879228 Report

Quoted By: >>13879235 >>13879238

>>13879211
Nah, that wasn't the placebo effect. I tried Zolpidem before and the effect was nowhere as powerful as with melatonin. Zolpidem gave me a mild headache, like the kind you get when you're really tired and I felt like shit the next morning. There was none of that with melatonin, just a sweet drowsiness within 30 minutes of taking the pill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:11:34 No.13879235 Report

Quoted By: >>13879251

>>13879228
>the real drug had side effects
>the fake one feels nice and sweet
makes sense to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:12:34 No.13879238 Report

Quoted By: >>13879251

>>13879228
>Nah, that wasn't the placebo effect.
The thing about retards like you is that they think placebo effects are placebo because they don't feel real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:18:54 No.13879251 Report

Quoted By: >>13879253 >>13879288

>>13879235
>>13879238
>muh placebo
I know my own body OK?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:20:33 No.13879253 Report

Quoted By: >>13879261

>>13879251
Yes, you fucking moron, you now know that your body is influenced by your mind, which is influenced by suggestions. Either that, or you were getting a benefit for which there's no scientific evidence, and then suffering tolerance for which there's no scientific evidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:22:57 No.13879261 Report

Quoted By: >>13879262

>>13879253
Bullshit, how come the placebo effect didn't kick in with Zolpidem then? I once took two pills and stayed awake for hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:24:37 No.13879262 Report

Quoted By: >>13879280

>>13879261
You are a specials nowflake with a very special body. Substances just don't work on your body the way they work on everyone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:35:27 No.13879280 Report

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>>13879262
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-29/melatonin-oral/details

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 13:39:57 No.13879288 Report

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>>13879251
>I know my own body OK?
then why do you have sleeping issues?

oh wait, you dont know shit, are you being retarded on purpose? just think for a moment about how a drug with side effects could reverse psychology you into staying more awake, compounding that with the melatonin which had none, its actually like you created ideal conditions for placebo to occur is anything else lol.

solve the lower level problems anon, you havent even begun to start understanding your own body and mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 14:49:24 No.13879408 Report

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Take 0.3 mg melatonin roughly 7 hours before bed. It'll adjust your circadian rhythm to an earlier sleep time.

>why not before bed or higher doses?
Taking it before bed doesn't help with circadian rhythm issues. Higher doses don't really show more effectiveness. You could try around 0.5-0.75 though I guess.

Also ignore the low IQ retards giving out shit advice. Slate star codex has a good post explaining how to use melatonin for DSPD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 15:16:12 No.13879481 Report

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>>13878551
Just close your eyes retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 15:17:38 No.13879492 Report

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>>13878551
Stop drinking alcohol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Nov 2021 22:07:15 No.13880706 Report

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>>13878551
work night shifts, stop resisting your natural rhythm.
the 9-5 workday is a sick joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Nov 2021 04:00:47 No.13881590 Report

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>successful transition for nightshift requires a modicum of thought power and will power
>9-5 workday kills thought power and will power

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