>>13857314regarding the latter study,
>Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts. Host–virus interactions early in infection may shape the entire viral trajectory.it's worth pointing out that it does state that it reduces infection, which will reduce overall transmission rates. however, someone with a breakthrough case will seemingly spread or transmit at similar rates in household settings. if I'm understanding correctly.
but reducing baseline infection reduces opportunity to transmit at all of course.
>am only focusing on evidence that counters that hypothesis for now. i think the culture is overly contrarian perhaps. agree, it is important when information is being censored or swept under the rug to look for things that disrupt consensus. but as of now saying something like 'the vaccines do not help reduce the spread' seems like borderline misinfo, which undermines all of us, not just those of us stuck in this shithole.
unfortunately VAERS seems woefully underreported, as do break through case numbers. it seems something fucky is afoot but it's not making it into the studies or data.
