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wait the spike enters the nucleus? does the virus or vaccine make more spikes like this?

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 09:31:24 2021 No.13851540 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13851871 >>13853015 >>13854005 >>13854012 >>13857292

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/2056/htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Unt03UBhbU

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Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 10:33:17 No.13851617 Report

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>i-it's just a flu that happens to cause accelerated aging!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 14:10:43 No.13851871 Report

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>>13851540
Thats pretty trippy bro. Where does this guy work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 14:46:00 No.13851914 Report

Quoted By: >>13851995 >>13852028

>Refuse vax because cancer spikes
>Get cancer spikes from endemic virus instead
So it's a losing battle then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 15:39:19 No.13851995 Report

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>>13851914
Duh. All of this was predicted in 2019 unless WHO pulls its head out of its ass.
But maybe there will be proper polyvalent vaccines before it's too late.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 15:53:56 No.13852028 Report

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>>13851914
Vax and viral infection have different methods of delivery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 16:32:06 No.13852108 Report

Quoted By: >>13852627

>V(D)J recombination
>in HEK-293
into the trash it goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 19:08:11 No.13852627 Report

Quoted By: >>13853015 >>13853402

>>13852108
Explain in layman what that is, please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 21:11:55 No.13853015 Report

Quoted By: >>13853376 >>13853444 >>13854012 >>13854040 >>13854147 >>13858181

>>13852627
>>13851540
This is a literal nothing burger

For 1, the vaccine is localized to the deltoid muscle, and when was the last time you heard someone get deltoid cancer.

For 2, this is an in vitro study

For 3, the vaccines in the USA have a modified sequence which does not permit them to attach to ACE2 receptors

If anything this paper just proves you should rush out and get vaccinated right now yah donkeys

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 22:50:42 No.13853376 Report

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>>13853015
>the vaccine is localized to the deltoid muscle
categorically false

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Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 23:01:43 No.13853402 Report

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>>13852627
They're looking for a process in a place where said process is almost irrelevant.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 23:18:30 No.13853444 Report

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>>13853015
>For 1, the vaccine is localized to the deltoid muscle,
Ah, that's where Covid intrudes you. You can't know, but humans have s respiratory system,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 23:28:23 No.13853473 Report

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>>13853376
It’s not retard. Go look up where the vaccine is located. It uses the muscle cells of the deltoid to create the spike protein.

>>13853444
What the fuck are you even talking about

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Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 23:34:47 No.13853489 Report

Quoted By: >>13853494 >>13856719

>>13853473
https://youtu.be/5sIWb9GTbbE?t=76

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Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 23:36:07 No.13853494 Report

Quoted By: >>13853500 >>13853617

>>13853489
I’m not watching some Jew tube video. Link a paper or shut the fuck up and get the jab

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Anonymous Sun 14 Nov 2021 23:37:52 No.13853500 Report

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>>13853494
R
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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 00:21:04 No.13853617 Report

Quoted By: >>13853999

>>13853494
>Jew
There goes your whole credibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 02:37:54 No.13853999 Report

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>>13853617
I feel the opposite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 02:40:55 No.13854005 Report

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>>13851540
Still a better sick story than actual covid-19.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 02:43:13 No.13854010 Report

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>>13853999
Your whole credibility, into the trash it goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 02:45:28 No.13854012 Report

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>>13851540
>wait the spike enters the nucleus? does the virus or vaccine make more spikes like this?
In an actual infection, yes. With vaccination, not sure. The mRNA ones shouldn't, viral vectors might.

>>13853015
>For 1, the vaccine is localized to the deltoid muscle, and when was the last time you heard someone get deltoid cancer.
Definitely not true. The LNPs reach circulation very quickly.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 02:55:29 No.13854029 Report

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Regardless of if this is an actual issue, they promised that the vaccine couldn't get anywhere near your DNA or have any effect on your DNA.

I don't think we can trust them if this got by them.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 02:58:15 No.13854040 Report

Quoted By: >>13854048 >>13854152 >>13854518 >>13854522 >>13856290

>>13853015
>deltoid muscle
>>13853473
>Go look up where the vaccine is located.
The Government of Japan requires more detailed documentation from the manufacturer than the fucked health regulators in North America. The LNP technology used in the vaccine does not stay at the injection site. It quickly spreads throughout the body.
>https://www.pmda.go.jp/drugs/2021/P20210212001/672212000_30300AMX00231_I100_1.pdf
Page 16/17

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 03:02:06 No.13854048 Report

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>>13854040
So at 15 minutes, 19.9% is in the deltoid, and a minuscule amount is elsewhere. Where is the other 80%, intracellular or in the lymphatic system? Why the increase at 24 hours compared to 8 hours?

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 03:22:00 No.13854086 Report

Quoted By: >>13854135

>>13854010
Your opinion doesn't matter, subhuman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 03:34:45 No.13854125 Report

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Expect shills to spam this. I'm interested in what the naturalnews guy comes up with or who he interviews.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 03:37:44 No.13854135 Report

Quoted By: >>13854220 >>13856394

>>13854086
ok garbage grouch

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 03:41:55 No.13854147 Report

Quoted By: >>13857169

>>13853015
>For 3, the vaccines in the USA have a modified sequence which does not permit them to attach to ACE2 receptors
MNRA vaccines use full spike protein.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 03:43:12 No.13854152 Report

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>>13854040
thanks for providing source

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 04:24:00 No.13854220 Report

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>>13854135
>garbage grouch
Nice insult bro how will he recover

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 07:20:50 No.13854518 Report

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>>13854040
>50ug
>in a mouse
the standard human dose is 30ug

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 07:23:31 No.13854522 Report

Quoted By: >>13856348

>>13854040
>50ug
>in a rat
the standard human dose is 30ug

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 19:40:23 No.13856290 Report

Quoted By: >>13857326

>>13854040
So it increases in injection site well after the injection???

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 19:57:15 No.13856348 Report

Quoted By: >>13856729 >>13857334

>>13854522
hahahaha

https://odysee.com/@BannedFromYoutube:d/Pressekonferenz-Tod-durch-Impfung-Undeklarierte-Bestandteile-der-COVID-19-Impfstoffe:a

there's not even one vaccine from one manufacturer. its all one gigantic clusterfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 20:07:53 No.13856394 Report

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>>13854135
ya got him! phew lads, insult dog has nothing on this guy

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 22:05:11 No.13856719 Report

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>>13853489
>cell walls
What a bunch of retarded shite.
Vaccine clots are due to autoimmune reactions against platelet factor 4, not against spike proteins on endothelia.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Nov 2021 22:07:55 No.13856729 Report

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>>13856348
i'm not going to watch 3 hours of krauts

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 01:16:10 No.13857169 Report

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>>13854147
>For 3, the vaccines in the USA have a modified sequence which does not permit them to attach to ACE2 receptors
>MNRA vaccines use full spike protein

I believe the mRNA spike proteins are built to be “locked” into one position, with further sub-unit changes that do not allow them to change when interacting with ACE2 receptors and thus not enter the cells. I could be very wrong.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 02:08:05 No.13857292 Report

Quoted By: >>13857768

>>13851540
Wow, if the spike protein is entering the nucleus and interfering with the expression of BRCA1, that's really concerning.

Someone should do something like develop a vaccine that would increase the immune system's ability to recognize and kill coronavirus particles before they can come into contact with a cell so that the spike proteins don't even get into cells let alone their nuclei.

And surely everyone who'd be concerned about BRCA1 expression would quickly get such a vaccine were it available to prevent coronavirus particles in the environment from infecting their cells and getting spike proteins into their cells' nuclei, right?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 02:21:08 No.13857326 Report

Quoted By: >>13857421

>>13856290
Yup. it takes around 30 minutes for the virus lipid nanoparticles to connect to the 5G network, so in the first 15 minutes, only around 20% of the initial injection stays at the injection site. Then once the nanoparticles can download a copy of Agenda 21 from Google's servers, they send the signal for the vaccine to congregate back to the injection site so it gets back up to 50% of the dose to trick the sheeple. But then the RFID trackers start to malfunction, so the vaccine starts to drift away from the injection site again.

Either that, or this is a study of 21 (i.e., n = fuck all) rats and determining how much of a vaccine is in a particular location at a particular time based on tritium scintillations in such a small animal is wildly inaccurate and therefore the results are essentially worthless.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 02:25:03 No.13857334 Report

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>>13856348
Sorry, I don't speak Nazi. Could you translate the probably single paragraph of relevant unsubstantiated claims amongst this 3 hours of geriatric babbling?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 02:34:40 No.13857355 Report

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Wtf does that image have to do with this?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 03:00:06 No.13857421 Report

Quoted By: >>13857433

>>13857326
satirical word salad is not an argument

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 03:05:21 No.13857433 Report

Quoted By: >>13857460

>>13857421
But a screenshot of part of a single table from a single academic paper with serious procedural flaws is?

Unless you have a better explanation for how the dose presence went from 100% at 0 minutes to 20% at 15 minutes to 52% at 60 minutes to 31% at 60 minutes.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 03:14:51 No.13857460 Report

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>>13857433
A table from an academic paper is a slightly better argument than satirical word salad, but you're right, both are bad arguments

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 05:13:27 No.13857768 Report

Quoted By: >>13857795

>>13857292
>Someone should do something like develop a vaccine that would increase the immune system's ability to recognize and kill coronavirus particles before they can come into contact with a cell so that the spike proteins don't even get into cells let alone their nuclei.
Yes, the workaround should be the brilliant idea to have the cells create the spike proteins themselves, thus preventing the proteins from ever being inside the cell...hey, wait a second...

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 05:37:13 No.13857795 Report

Quoted By: >>13857802

>>13857768
>to have the cells create the spike proteins themselves
without coming into contact with them? nifty

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 05:41:39 No.13857802 Report

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>>13857795
How can they literally produce the proteins without coming into contact with them? Can you take a shit without the shit touching your anus?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 09:06:45 No.13858176 Report

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https://odysee.com/@BannedFromYoutube:d/Pressekonferenz-Tod-durch-Impfung-Undeklarierte-Bestandteile-der-COVID-19-Impfstoffe:a

there's timeline under thealthype->thebuckbreaker

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Anonymous Tue 16 Nov 2021 09:09:00 No.13858181 Report

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>>13853015

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