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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 17:04:17 2021 No.13825854 View Reply Original Report

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Who/what is God, scientifically speaking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:06:57 No.13825863 Report

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>>13825854
Scientifically speaking, God is entropy, God is gravity, God is evolution, God is the Big Bang and the Big Crunch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:11:21 No.13825881 Report

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>>13825854
>Scientifically speaking, God is a spooky father figure. You should fear his wrath and comply or else no dessert, young man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:16:58 No.13825902 Report

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>>13825854
Scientifically speaking, irrelevant. What is "real" in science is what is chosen amongst the multitude (infinite) number of characterizations we can possibly make about the universe that are deemed useful by being repeatable, predictable, and relatively simple (occam's razor). The characterization of God fails the latter two criteria. It satisfies being repeatable by definition (being everything). That being said, unless you're a materialist, just because something is irrelevant to science doesn't mean it itself is irrelevant in general.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:23:27 No.13825921 Report

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>>13825854
An omnipotent, immortal being controlling one or more aspects of existence

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:39:11 No.13825972 Report

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>>13825863
Everything you mentioned is causal. So, wouldn't God be also causality?

>>13825902
So science ignores God as an deity, but rather studies "him" by its "manifestations" which is also, skeptically speaking, the way reality is.

Just to clarify I was christian but now agnostic since i got deep into ontology, physics and psychology.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:42:33 No.13825979 Report

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>>13825972
>So, wouldn't God be also causality?
yes

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:43:37 No.13825982 Report

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>>13825972
>So science ignores God as an deity, but rather studies "him" by its "manifestations" which is also, skeptically speaking, the way reality is.
There are theist scientists who would view it this way, though science as an actual practice and methodology says nothing about God, it's just not useful or even approachable via science.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:44:14 No.13825983 Report

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>>13825854
He is a means to explain the unknown. As every scientist makes. As every philosopher made.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:56:16 No.13826015 Report

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By the way, thoughts about Spinoza's God? I think he got the best materialistic explanation for God. Everyone who disagreed with him were theologists and idealist philosophers in damage control.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:58:44 No.13826022 Report

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>>13825854
The uncaused mover of creation.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 17:59:24 No.13826025 Report

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>>13826015
It's basically a Hipster version of God
>I believe in God
>Oh you mean Jesus, Allah, Jahwe, Thor, Zeus?
>Nah, that's too mainstream I believe in my own God which is functionally equal to yours but I don't get to call them those names

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 18:02:45 No.13826032 Report

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>>13826025
But (apart from your jealous judgment) isn't he right after all?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 18:05:05 No.13826038 Report

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>>13826032
>jealous judgment
Nothing of the kind. He's right, but it's just a different side of the same coin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 18:10:11 No.13826052 Report

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>>13825854
I don't believe in god. There's no proof he exists. In a world where there isn't even proof of the future, the past exists. Even if it's tainted with misunderstandings and delusions, if the people themselves believe in it, the past is the truth to them. And, if you base your actions or your life around it, in a way, it's a type of god itself.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 18:23:30 No.13826100 Report

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>>13825854

the sum of consciousness in the whole universe

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 18:25:07 No.13826105 Report

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>>13826100
As far as we know that only the life on Earth. It wouldn't make a large Spirit Bomb.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 18:28:50 No.13826121 Report

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>>13825854
I am god, i anticipate that when i die this world ceases to exist in any meaningful way

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Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 18:38:51 No.13826156 Report

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>>13825854
Scientifically speaking, God is the anthropomorphization of infrastructure.

And this is why you can see God everywhere given any order of magnitude.

Or you never see it because you do not athropomorphize such things.

Shit's easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 19:05:06 No.13826245 Report

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>>13825854
>Scientifically:
An explanation for unanswered phenomenon.
Currently: Where did the universe come from? God self-created and made it.

>Socially:
As >>13825881 said, an angry parent to appease that exists in your mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Nov 2021 19:26:38 No.13826304 Report

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>>13825854
the capable watchmaker

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