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Can any scientist explain to me how a nazi gas chamber works?

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 04:13:59 2021 No.13793961 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13793982 >>13794114 >>13794518 >>13794752

Keep in mind that there were no plans, no order, no budget.
How does one gas 6 millions without any of those? Scientists, you know-it-all ought to put forth another one of your theories so we can all bask in your made up reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 04:24:43 No.13793982 Report

Quoted By: >>13793984 >>13793987 >>13794140

>>13793961
>airtight door
I don't believe this is strictly necessary with cyanide gas. The human body can tolerate low dosages of cyanide without any harm, since cyanide occurs naturally in seeds and nuts. Our body can metabolize it in low doses. Only in high doses does it overwelm our bodies and become lethal. That means that anybody who received low dosages of cyanide gas through a leaky wood door would only get a little tingling feeling in their fingers that would wear off when they went outside and got some fresh air.

>no plans, no order, no budget
It's a matter of mainstream debate whether the Holocaust was a top-down command from Nazi leadership, or an emergent phenomena independently implemented by lower level nazis doing what they thought the leadership would approve of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functionalism%E2%80%93intentionalism_debate

Regardless, isn't there supposed to be paper documentation of some nazi camps ordering delousing gas without the precautionary odorant added? The gas they are reputed to have used for homicidal purposes was originally intended as a delousing agent, and had an odorizer added to it so that workers wouldn't accidentally off themselves with it. Supposedly, there is a paper record of nazis buying this delousing gas without the odorant, which is strange behavior unless they were using it to kill people. I know this might not be strong enough evidence to persuade many, but I think it's suggestive at least. What do you think?

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 04:26:09 No.13793984 Report

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>>13793982
>low dosages of cyanide [...] only get a little tingling feeling in their fingers that would wear off when they went outside and got some fresh air.
btw CodysLab demonstrated this years ago by drinking a dilute solution of cyanide. I think jewtube took the video down a while ago though, even though Cody was not trying to debunk the holocaust with it (and actually made a remark in the video affirming his belief in the holocaust.)

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 04:27:16 No.13793987 Report

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>>13793982
So it was forbidden to kill jews in Germany, yet Hitler wanted to kill all the jews... hmm...

Jews were killed by Allied bombings and the Soviets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 04:27:34 No.13793988 Report

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Chemical weapons are deployed in open fields, like mustard gas. You dont need a chamber, that should tell you something about the need for airtight rooms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 04:35:47 No.13794008 Report

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>>13793987
>>So it was forbidden to kill jews in Germany, yet Hitler wanted to kill all the jews... hmm...
This touches on the Functionalism-Intentionalism debate. If the Functionalists are correct, then Hitler never ordered the holocaust, but did encourage people to have an antisemitic worldview and dehumanize jews, which in turn lead people lower in the nazi hierarchy to kill jews under the impression that Hitler would have approved of it. The Intentionalists believe the Holocaust was explicitly ordered by Hitler or other high ranking leaders, however I believe there is not a ton of hard evidence to support this.

addressing your image:
>Zyklon B was a fumigant
Correct. And it was even commercially available for this purpose many years after the war (under various brand names)
>The Americans called it DDT
That's not correct, DDT is not the same chemical.
>if top-down orders to kill jews had been given, none would be left
I think this is a strong argument tbqh. This is one of the reasons I lean more towards the functionalism camp. Nazi leadership dehumanized jews but stopped short of ordering their utter extermination. Various lower ranking nazis nevertheless started killing them, in a largely uncoordinated way using improvised means. Zyklon B can in fact kill, in high concentrations; it's just hydrogen cyanide. That's why, normally, it was sold with an odorant to warn workers when they started to breath it.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:20:49 No.13794114 Report

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>>13793961
So what? Even if...

They still were racists. They stripped Jews of their possessions and property, and horded them into ghettos, then camps. They started the war. They lost. The winners write the history books.

It ended 76 years ago. Let it go.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:23:06 No.13794117 Report

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>>13794114
Nope, the Allied declared war on Nazi Germany and refused every single peace offer, killing millions of innocents.
The Allied dropped two atomic bombs on tens of thousands of innocent civillians in Japan.
Those who support the Allied stand on the side of evil and lies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:25:19 No.13794118 Report

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>>13794117
>They lost. The winners write the history books.

>76 years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:25:27 No.13794119 Report

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ok lemme see
>not even 6 million jews in Germany
>impossible to gas that many that quick
>etc
anything else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:31:33 No.13794129 Report

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>>13793987
>political prisoners and pows starved to death
damn why is this so hard so holocaust schizos to believe? instead they need to make shit up about masturbation death machines, backwards shotguns, gas chambers, etc.
The US used delousing agents on spics, why are people so schizo about the holocaust and even more defensive when you just want to investigate the truth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:33:29 No.13794132 Report

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Imagine denying the most well documented genocide just because of a few shitty jpegs from stormfront

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:39:57 No.13794140 Report

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>>13793982
>Supposedly, there is a paper record of nazis buying this delousing gas without the odorant, which is strange behavior unless they were using it to kill people.
how many places bought the gas? the "functionalism" idea seems to make a lot of sense, especially since none of the camps liberated by the allies showed any evidence of systematic extermination. sounds like one or two camps built shoddy gas chambers and used them on some people and threw others into a huge furnace, and possibly were able to destroy most evidence leaving us only with exaggerated stories from traumatized jews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:45:40 No.13794147 Report

Quoted By: >>13794161

>>13794117
>The Allied dropped two atomic bombs on tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Japan.
This isn't exactly fair to say in conjunction with the nazis. You're now talking about nazi Germany and the allies then tangentially about one other axis power, imperial Japan. The US join fairly late into the war, and really it was Japan that motivated it a lot. They bombed pearl habor killing thousands. It was an unprovoked assault and declaration of war. We showed them that they fucked up and they saw what they reaped what they sowed. And to say it was "The Allied dropped two atomic bombs" is just dishonest. Those primitive briton apes couldn't even dream of having the kind of technological supremacy the US had at the time, or even today to be honest. Don't try to let pathetic faggot nations get even a little credit for an epic display of American power. Furthermore, to be fair what the Japanese were doing to the chinese was completely unethical, and it was documented with great accuracy, unlike with the nazis. Which begs to question why is is poorly understood for the nazis (despite them having good orders and docs) but for the Japanese it's blatantly known but swept under? The Japanese are probably the luckiest losers of the conflict.
Now I think the US should have bombed Japan, frankly I think they should have sent the entire fucking Island to hell. However, I think it's fairly obvious we were on the wrong side of the conflict.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 05:53:29 No.13794161 Report

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>>13794147
List of typical atrocity propaganda for brainwashed midwits:

- Bayonet a baby
- Cut open the belly of a pregnant woman
- Slice off women's titties
- Rape a nun in church
- Rape a nurse in hospital
- Human experiments
- Gas chamber / Zyklon B
- Soap made from Jews corpses
- Anne Frank's diary
- Crucified Armenian women
- Take babies out of incubators and leave them to die

- The ___ massacre
- Rape of ___
- * million victims
- "Innocent women and children"
- "Well-documented"

5 Biggest Hoaxes in History:
- Holohoax
- the Fake of Nanking
- Armenian genocide
- Nayirah Testimony
- Iraq's WMDs

Atrocity war propaganda serves to ensure soldiers are fueled by hatred towards their foes so they can kill.
Nanking genocide was made up garbage just like the Holohoax. Nothing justifies killing innocent civillians unless you are an intellectual who sold his soul to Satan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 06:04:45 No.13794172 Report

Quoted By: >>13794178

>>13794161
>- the Fake of Nanking
>- Armenian genocide
>hoaxes
schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 06:07:34 No.13794178 Report

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>>13794172
Interesting read: http://www2.biglobe.ne.jp/~remnant/nankingm.htm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 06:15:25 No.13794188 Report

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>>13794161
Atrocity propaganda propaganda is propaganda to deny atrocities. I will also say that war itself is a atrocity.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 06:18:08 No.13794191 Report

Quoted By: >>13794219 >>13794222 >>13794455

>>13794188
Oy vey

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 06:30:33 No.13794219 Report

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>>13794191
>The americans killed the jews
ok now I get why they hate us

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 06:32:23 No.13794222 Report

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>>13794191
These are all much better arguments than the wooden door bs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 09:13:54 No.13794455 Report

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>>13794191
Most of these are bullshit but the point about the Allies destroying essential infrastructure is actually pretty valid. Although the framing of these attacks as “cruel” is kind of ridiculous. War is cruel in general, it’s not like the Germans didn’t do the same thing to London.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 09:48:15 No.13794518 Report

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>>13793961
>gas 6 millions
gassing was 3-4 million
https://youtu.be/DwKPFT-RioU?t=7m40s

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 11:36:36 No.13794752 Report

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>>13793961
>no order, no budget
I don't believe that for a second given how autistic Germans are, I think you mean to orders with "for gas chamber" written on them.

The biggest thing that both sides use is the "6 million" which is complete bullshit, it includes stavation, collateral damage, freezing ect. About 6 million jews did die in the war but those that claim 6 million were gassed are lying or mislead.
The Russians lost ~27 million but no one is going to claim that was all in camps despite the fact some would have been in camps.

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