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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 20:36:05 2021 No.13792809 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13792828 >>13792933 >>13793009 >>13793084 >>13797960 >>13798053 >>13798117

Does it remove the negative health effects of obesity or is it just the medical equivalent of sweeping dirt under a rug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 20:42:31 No.13792828 Report

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>>13792809
It does remove some of the problems but not all of them. For instance the removal of the cells means your blood circulation now has less work to do which is a good thing but at the same time it won't clean up clogged up arteries for instance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 21:25:01 No.13792933 Report

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>>13792809
Yes it does, not everything but it’s even a valid tool to use when people are too obese to undergo surgery

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 21:52:10 No.13793009 Report

Quoted By: >>13793029 >>13793071 >>13793713 >>13794230 >>13794434 >>13795768 >>13798030

>>13792809
What an absolute waste of money for this guy. He could LITERALLY get the same effect from working out for a couple months. Insane laziness and pathetic ideals

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 21:58:13 No.13793029 Report

Quoted By: >>13793038 >>13793071 >>13793079 >>13793481 >>13793945 >>13796394

>>13793009
>He could LITERALLY get the same effect from working out for a couple months.
if he spends 4 hours a week working out for 3 months (conservative), thats about 48 hours total. the average liposucc cost is $5000. he would have to make less than about $100 an hour before taxes for it to be worth his time. not a modest salary, but not a unrealistic one either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 22:01:28 No.13793038 Report

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>>13793029
this is dumb. he could literally get those results in 2 months only by eating less food, which actually implies a net gain.
so no, there's no way to justify being this lazy with numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 22:17:33 No.13793071 Report

Quoted By: >>13793759 >>13793942 >>13795093 >>13795722 >>13796140 >>13798022

>>13793009
>>13793029
>workout
>exercise
You fell for the food industry propaganda.

Weight loss is 100% calorie management.

You body burns calorie at base rate. Don't eat more than that, and you won't gain any weight. Eat less than that, you lose weight. It requires zero physical effort. In fact if you exercise, you tire out more and are likely to eat more to satiate the hunger more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 22:21:44 No.13793079 Report

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>>13793029
There is more worth to time than money anon. Maybe he has hobbies he would rather do than workout for that time. It's not like the only option is workout or wageslave

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 22:24:58 No.13793084 Report

Quoted By: >>13793323 >>13794345

>>13792809
Did that guy even need lipo? he just got a really ugly scare for some fat he could have lost with reduced calories and more cardio.
It seems like something that should only be done to really obese people because physical activity is actually really dangerous for them. it would then make it easier for them to do physical activity to then help their internal issue that being obese caused them. Though frankly it shouldn't even be an option unless they demonstrate their desire for weight loss through eating healthy for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 23:01:17 No.13793172 Report

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>>13793038
maybe he likes eating food and doesnt want to stop. if he could pay money to have his cake and eat it too, why wouldnt he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 23:08:50 No.13793183 Report

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>>13793172
Except this is just going to alter fat deposits.
If he gets fat again, he's going to appear even fatter everywhere but his torso.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 23:52:23 No.13793272 Report

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>>13793172
Because his arteries are still as unhealthy as they were before? He's gaining aesthetic gains and only marginal health gains

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 00:12:50 No.13793323 Report

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>>13793084
>Did that guy even need lipo?
no, he probably did for a chick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 00:50:43 No.13793450 Report

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>>13793272
>He's gaining aesthetic gains and only marginal health gains
That's the motto of the majority of the civilization for the last ~15 years, tho.

Mohan

Mohan Wed 27 Oct 2021 01:07:25 No.13793481 Report

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>>13793029
>>13793079

Isn't the fat around the heart and liver the main issue?
workout is a better option for him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 02:23:37 No.13793713 Report

Quoted By: >>13793946 >>13794363 >>13796370

>>13793009
Forget working out, if you look doughy like the pic on the left, stick to less than 20g of Carbs 80g protein and like 130g of fat and you will lose ~12lbs a month easily.

There are so many filling low carbs cheats it isn't even hard anymore (sugar free metamucil for example). Forgive the mix of SI and Imperial units.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 02:41:05 No.13793759 Report

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The negative health of effects are from visceral fat 90% of the time outside of extreme obesity so no, it doesn't do anything
>>13793071
Yeah this
Tbf I lost 6kg over a few months from doing 1.5 hours of walking every day with a two 3 hour walks twice a week

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 03:31:12 No.13793863 Report

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>>13793183
It's hilarious to see someone who got lipo but keeps on eating excess calories so the fat pops up in weird places, especially around the face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 03:57:18 No.13793929 Report

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>>13793863
the great game of whack a mole

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 04:03:31 No.13793942 Report

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>>13793071
Okay, you're right bud, but if you work on ON TOP of that, you're going to lose it faster. It's a waste of money regardless, and if you don't agree, you're an absolute lazy piece of garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 04:04:35 No.13793945 Report

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>>13793029
Or he could simply workout for 45 mins a day 3 days a week and look like this EASILY and only spending money on protein powder, but okay. Lots of fatties on here that haven't lifted a weight in their lives

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 04:05:38 No.13793946 Report

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>>13793713
Why would you stack protein if you're not working out? If you're taking in that much protein and not working out, you're fucking up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 06:35:17 No.13794230 Report

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>>13793009
Shut up fatass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 07:41:26 No.13794345 Report

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>>13793084
he already had an appendectomy scar apparently
there doesn't seem to be any additional liposuction scars

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 07:50:51 No.13794363 Report

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>>13793713
>just take jewish fake food
No. Just eat less fatty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 08:04:33 No.13794378 Report

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>>13794363
matzo balls and gefilte fish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 08:55:02 No.13794434 Report

Quoted By: >>13795775

>>13793009
He isn't even obese. There are actually extremely few health risks for being just a bit overweight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:09:34 No.13794811 Report

Quoted By: >>13794822

>>13793183
isn't this the best solution tho?
permanent solution to beer belly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 12:21:13 No.13794822 Report

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>>13794811
Yeah but then you look weird as fuck, with a reasonably normal torso combined with a norf-style head. It looks wrong and disproportionate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 14:26:03 No.13794990 Report

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Isn’t it time thicc guys got some love?
Even fags don’t seem to like us all that much...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 15:21:46 No.13795093 Report

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>>13793071
>Weight loss is 100% calorie management
Yes
>You body burns calorie at base rate.
Ang guess what? If you exercise more, you gain more muscle, your metabolism increases, and you can INCREASE the amount of calories your body burns at base

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 19:49:48 No.13795722 Report

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>>13793071
Diet is about self control even of you excerise you should be able to control yourself. You need to maintain your muscle mass otherwise that will go first when eating less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 19:49:53 No.13795723 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 20:02:45 No.13795768 Report

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>>13793009
Natural hunger drives differ between people. I did get to 10% but I was literally having to count minutes and hours between meals I was so hungry. And had to wear compression socks as my legs pulsated 24/7. My heart rate dropped to the 30s at night.

For most people that level of leanness wouldn't cause health issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 20:04:35 No.13795775 Report

Quoted By: >>13796168

>>13794434
American moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 22:37:53 No.13796140 Report

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>>13793071
Exercising is related to discipline, which is also related to dieting. It makes sense that they go hand in hand in order to be more efficient. Also if you start exercising you start feeling powerful because you notice how you're becoming stronger, and that gives you the right mindset to diet. On the other hand, you could diet without exercise and you're gonna feel like a weak and hungry bitch, which isn't very motivating. You literally can't argue that exercise is bad or useless to lose weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 22:45:42 No.13796168 Report

Quoted By: >>13796340

>>13795775
Read up on the actual negative effects of being slightly overweight. Left image is probably around 25-26 bmi, there are hardly any unless you are genetically predisposed to have diabetes or high blood pressure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 23:45:33 No.13796340 Report

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>>13796168
Left image would be considered obese in civilized countries. In fact I cant even remember when I last saw young person that fat. Hit the running track, cut out corn syrup and cut down on carbohydrates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Oct 2021 23:54:05 No.13796370 Report

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>>13793713
20x4+80x4+130x9
Yeah, you'd lose weight eating fewer than 1600kcal a day. You doofus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 00:00:05 No.13796394 Report

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>>13793029
100 dollars an hour is not a modest amount of money

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Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 15:36:48 No.13797960 Report

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>>13792809
no bmi is about as heritable as height which in America is like 85-90% these people will go back to their same habits and behavior and lifestyle the few that have already changed all that and just can't get rid of past mistake hanging on? maybe it would help those rare exceptions but majority of people are just gonna continue to fuck up it's like a feedback loop in their body they are kinda fat and feel hormonal so binge eat and thus their body stores more fat and that is more likely to cause the same hormonal response, store more fat its a feedback of fat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 15:55:16 No.13798016 Report

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>>13796340
like 1/3 american kids is obese
1/5 globally... like I see nothing but fatties...
even in africa and south america the obesity rate is pretty high like 1/4 on average so most kids in whole world are getting fatter it's just more access to cheap calories, sugar waters everywhere, large increases of easy access to calories has happened(cultivation of crops and taming of animals, gave access to milk and abundant food) but not like this, the pastoral nomads who started drinking milk and roaming the caucus mountains with there herds needed as much access to calories as they could get, we have way more access to calories than they ever did and no where near as a demanding life, so yeah we have an obesity problem and compared to like eastern asia and like slavic countries yeah our kids are megafat which is not good at all obesity in kids is horrible for their health

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 15:57:08 No.13798022 Report

Quoted By: >>13798033

>>13793071
the problem is that calories on labels are not accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 16:01:05 No.13798030 Report

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>>13793009
Everybody is still wrong on this. All he needed to do was fast for a few days. It is proven fasting is the healthiest way to lose fat without losing muscle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 16:01:31 No.13798033 Report

Quoted By: >>13798054

>>13798022
true coke says it's like 150 calories it's probably double that and diet coke oh diet its good for you. no it's the same it causes fatty liver disease and clogs your arteries etc etc etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 16:09:21 No.13798053 Report

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>>13792809
Since nobody has answered yet:
Liposuction only targets the subcutaneous fat, the pinch-able layer of fat. It doesn't remove any visceral fat which is around your organs. The visceral fat is the more harmful fat that causes metabolic dysfunction.
Another difference between normal fat loss and lipo is that lipo removes fat cells, while normal weight mostly just shrinks them. If person who has done liposuction starts gaining fat, he gains it on different areas as he normally would.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 16:09:46 No.13798054 Report

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>>13798033
checked, fatties are also better isolated against the cold, that means they need less calories to maintain their body temp, burning less calories than a skeletor if you compare it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 16:23:19 No.13798095 Report

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fat people are good resource for biofuel since they like munching desu mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Oct 2021 16:34:10 No.13798117 Report

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>>13792809
fat loss tier list:

normie tier:
eat less move more
stop drinking soda, eating candy etc type dietary changes

effective at least short term tier:
fasting and time restriction
nobody does these forever but they work

meme tier:
keto, vegan, potato diet, etc meme diets
these work for some but still meme

crutch tier:
weight loss drugs
work albeit slowly but what about when you stop using them

illicit weight loss drugs aka dnp tier
risky but works, crutch

if all else fails tier:
bariatric surgery
liposuction

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