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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 08:16:50 2021 No.13791206 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13791209 >>13791210 >>13791212

Greetings sci, im from fit.

Serious question. In the UK, we class any death from covid as any death for any reason within 28 days of a positive test result.

Why do we not class vaccine deaths in the same way? Any death for any reason within 28 days of a vaccine?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:23:27 No.13791209 Report

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>>13791206
Just deal with it. Elites know what they do.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:23:38 No.13791210 Report

Quoted By: >>13791218 >>13791219

>>13791206
>we class any death from covid as any death for any reason within 28 days of a positive test result.
That's a straight up lie. It's only counted if it's listed on the death certificate. If you die in a car accident having tested positive, it won't be listed on the death certificate.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:24:09 No.13791212 Report

Quoted By: >>13791220 >>13791222

>>13791206
Because among people who actually understand this stuff, there is excellent reason to believe any death in the former case has a high chance of having covid as at least a major contributing factor, and there is no reason at all to believe the same in the latter case.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:28:14 No.13791218 Report

Quoted By: >>13791225

>>13791210
>If you die in a car accident having tested positive, it won't be listed on the death certificate.
https://www.westernjournal.com/county-counted-car-crash-covid-death-finds-inflated-virus-death-toll-25-percent/
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-man-killed-crash-listed-covid-19-death-raising-doubts-over-health-data-1518994

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:29:17 No.13791219 Report

Quoted By: >>13791225

>>13791210
>. It's only counted if it's listed on the death certificate

Source?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:29:20 No.13791220 Report

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>>13791212
>there is excellent reason to believe any death in the former case has a high chance of having covid as at least a major contributing factor, and there is no reason at all to believe the same in the latter case.
why isn't there a reason? if the vaccines were killing people not considering it were killing people would be stupid

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:30:35 No.13791222 Report

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>>13791212
>there is no reason at all to believe the same in the latter case.

Wym? Several countries eg denmark have banned vaccines due to the side effects. e.g oxford vax

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:32:07 No.13791225 Report

Quoted By: >>13791230 >>13791233

>>13791218
>US news sources
Fuck off

>>13791219
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/methodologies/coronavirusandmortalityinenglandandwalesmethodology

Because of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, our regular Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales release now provides a separate breakdown of the number of deaths involving COVID-19. That is, where COVID-19 or suspected COVID-19 was mentioned anywhere on the death certificate, including in combination with other health conditions.

If a death certificate mentions COVID-19, it will not always be the underlying (main) cause of death, but may be a contributory factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:38:02 No.13791229 Report

Quoted By: >>13791230 >>13791246

>We use the term "due to COVID-19" when referring only to deaths with an underlying cause of death of COVID-19. When taking into account all of the deaths that had COVID-19 mentioned anywhere on the death certificate

>underlying cause of death of COVID-19

Thats a very wide spectrum of causes of death. Get hit by a car, catch covid in hospital but die due to being unable to breath from internal injuries/covid. Still counted as a covid death.

Besides, its still not answering why we don't have a similar mechanism for counting a vaccine death. They are not listed on a death certificate as complications afaik

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:39:38 No.13791230 Report

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>>13791229
This meant for >>13791225

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:46:00 No.13791233 Report

Quoted By: >>13791243

>>13791225
>US news sources
>Fuck off
no, you fuck off, you ad hominem brain dead nigger regurgitator

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:52:48 No.13791243 Report

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>>13791233
We're talking about the UK, I don't give a fuck what is happening in florida, this isn't about you you stupid faggot

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 08:56:30 No.13791246 Report

Quoted By: >>13791257

>>13791229
>Thats a very wide spectrum of causes of death.
A cause is a cause, and very different from "anyone with a positie result will be counted". If it demonstrably contributed to the death, it's counted as such. The exact same applies to vaccines. In fact, for vaccines it's even stricter, because if it cannot be ruled out that a vaccine contributed, the case is treated as if it did. Again, you're welcome to look at the definitions here. Same website as my last source.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Oct 2021 09:06:46 No.13791257 Report

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>>13791246
>if it cannot be ruled out that a vaccine contributed, the case is treated as if it did

This is so flawed. it gives all judgement to the medics on the ground to decide for themselves.

Besides going on the gov dashboard, I can see that the main stat they look to be using for a daily update is "Deaths within 28 days of positive test" though "Daily deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate by date of death" is listed.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

My point however still stands. There is no dashboard page of vaccine deaths like this or any interest in it within the scientific/normie community in general. My question is why? Why is there no dashboard for vaccine deaths like this?

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