>>13746803>Your link also fails to mention pregnancy complications like preeclampsia or gestational diabetes. How do these influence covid severity?I'm not sure you're asking the right question here. The issue at hand I think is how covid affects pregnancy rather than the other way around, isn't it? What we can say beyond doubt is that pregnant people with covid have less favorable pregnancy outcomes compared to pregnant people without covid. So from that we can infer that covid is associated with increased risk, during pregnancy.
>>13746824>I'm glad we are on the same pageSame here, it's a welcome change.
>I'm not wasting my time on sourcesThat's fine if you don't feel like it. The reason I spend time arguing on 4chan though is mostly not to convince the other person in the discussion or anyone reading along, but to convince myself. I usually actually do go through the sources that are posted, for that specific reason.
>I just see a real issue with fear mongering and and coercing pregnant women into accepting a novel treatment before the study trials are done.Fear mongering and coercion are obviously bad, but I'm not sure we can really say that this is happening. My girlfriend sister was pregnant up until a few weeks ago, and I talked at length with her if she should get vaccinated or not. At the time there was no clear guidance from government agencies yet and given that the infection rate was relatively low where she lives, she ultimately decided not to. Anyway, the point is that there really wasn't any pressure one way or the other, either from the side of the government or anyone else. If anything, most coercion I see happening is right here, on the internet.
Regarding the clinical trials: don't forget we have quite a bit of data by now about the effect of vaccination on pregnancy. Although pregnancy was an exclusion criterion in the initial phase III trials, a bunch of women entered who did not know it yet but turned out to be pregnant later.
