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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 05:37:48 2021 No.13731505 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13731511 >>13731616 >>13731686 >>13731730

Theory of everything? Ain't no such thing nigga

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 05:40:40 No.13731511 Report

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>>13731505
>blocks your path

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 05:53:52 No.13731534 Report

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haa gordel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:18:32 No.13731616 Report

Quoted By: >>13731624

>>13731505
Says the guy who starved himself to death so as not to be poisoned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:20:22 No.13731624 Report

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>>13731616
Imagine coming with a weak ad hominem at one of the greatest logicians of all time. Irony of ironies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:23:55 No.13731635 Report

Quoted By: >>13731642 >>13731712

>>13731624
Not everyone is worth paying attention to. The homeless guy openly shitting on the sidewalk in front of the 7-11 in broad daylight might be mumbling to himself the most genius thing ever said, but there's no reason to try to find out.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:25:07 No.13731637 Report

Quoted By: >>13731645 >>13731657 >>13731665 >>13731724 >>13733288

Today I will remind them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:27:14 No.13731642 Report

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>>13731635
>Not everyone is worth paying attention to.
Y..You’re talking about yourself right?
Not the greatest logician of the 20th century obviously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:28:11 No.13731645 Report

Quoted By: >>13731649 >>13731696 >>13731702

>>13731637
It fails because "God" is undefined. You can say anything with analytic language, including bullshit-- so long as you use undefined terms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:29:33 No.13731649 Report

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>>13731645
It's defined in D1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:32:13 No.13731653 Report

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>>13731649
No, a definition must be both exhaustive and exclusive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:35:42 No.13731657 Report

Quoted By: >>13731696 >>13731702

>>13731637
logical proofs of god are notoriously stupid.

let me give one
>assume god exists and god is omniscient and omnipotent
>god is omniscient, therefore he knows everything.
>therefore god knows what he will do tomorrow. to denote this, we will say god does X tomorrow. X could be anything, or nothing
>now god decides he does not want to do X tomorrow.
>he does Y, which contradicts X instead, which he is allowed to do because he is omnipotent

proof by contradiction that God cannot be both omnipotent and omniscient QED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:36:50 No.13731659 Report

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>>13731653
Uhh yeah, that's what the triple bar means. D = Definition, A = Axiom, C = Corollary, T = Theorem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:39:55 No.13731664 Report

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>>13731659
I got that, however, the definition "possesses all positive properties" does not encompass God, nor is God necessarily the only thing that possesses all positive properties.
Also, you're using the word "positive" in two different ways, twisting the definition as you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:40:45 No.13731665 Report

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>>13731637
This was proved in Coq, so it must be true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:42:35 No.13731670 Report

Quoted By: >>13731683 >>13731698 >>13731702

>>13731665
Existence is not a real predicate. Anselm was a retard, and the ontological argument is nonsense.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:48:42 No.13731680 Report

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>Our experiments were repeated with the highly trustful proof assistants Isabelle/HOL and Coq. This provided additional assurance.

wtf, I thought that atheist believed in science, why are they denying it now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:50:08 No.13731683 Report

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>>13731670
Friendly reminder that Kant's deontology got BTFO by Catholic Elizabeth Anscombe.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:51:55 No.13731686 Report

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>>13731505
>it's another episode of pop-educated midwits misunderstanding Gödel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:55:26 No.13731692 Report

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>>13731683
We're not discussing ethics, here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 07:59:24 No.13731696 Report

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>>13731645
>>13731657
atheist cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:00:29 No.13731698 Report

Quoted By: >>13731699

>>13731670
>Existence is not a real predicate.
Yes it is.
>Anselm was a retard.
Stop projecting your own retardation onto others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:01:26 No.13731699 Report

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>>13731698
A mind incapable of discussing ideas wrote this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:01:31 No.13731700 Report

Quoted By: >>13731701

>>13731686
pseud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:01:55 No.13731701 Report

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>>13731700
>i'm a pseud
Yes, you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:03:07 No.13731702 Report

Quoted By: >>13731711

>>13731670
>>13731657
>>13731645
Pure fedora cope

https://www.isa-afp.org/entries/Types_Tableaus_and_Goedels_God.html

philpapers.org/rec/MAYOAR-2

www.researchgate.net/publication/332869777_Reply_to_Oppy's_response_to_Ontological_Redux

https://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/Reli/ReliMayd.htm

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:04:32 No.13731708 Report

Quoted By: >>13731713

>>13731701
you will never be a scientist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:04:54 No.13731710 Report

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>>13731699
>says the guy who called Anselm a retard
Typical midwit atheist redditard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:04:59 No.13731711 Report

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>>13731702
No one's reading your links. You just wasted your own time.

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Solivagus Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:05:49 No.13731712 Report

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>>13731635
If he was screaming, "I AM NOT THIS TURD I AM EXCRETING FROM MY ANUS," then technically it would be a public lecture given pro bono and may be the most enlightening experience the general public could witness.

>I would also accept it if it was, "EVERYBODY POOPS!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:06:53 No.13731713 Report

Quoted By: >>13731733

>>13731708
Seethe, cope, and leave Gödel alone. He had nothing to say about the possibility of a "theory of everything".

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:13:47 No.13731719 Report

Quoted By: >>13731726 >>13731729 >>13731733

Looks like fedora tippers only like logic and "facts" when it comes from the mouth of their pop-science popularizers: black science man and bill nye.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:15:52 No.13731724 Report

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>>13731637
>dude, just define real existence into your conception of a thing
Didn't Kant have a point about this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:16:39 No.13731726 Report

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>>13731719
Of course it's not by accident. Look at what they did to Gallileo. Great minds have always been constrained by smaller minds, most often through the control of the masses with religion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:17:55 No.13731729 Report

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>>13731719
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:17:56 No.13731730 Report

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>>13731505

That's cute:

https://youtu.be/Z7cYtk5cdv8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:18:54 No.13731733 Report

Quoted By: >>13731738 >>13731755

>>13731713
>wahhh leave Godel alone.
If Kurt were here he'd side with me and spit on you..tfu. tfu. You dogmatists will never know true science, only scientism.
"Materialism is false" ~ Kurt Godel
>>13731719
"Religions are, for the most part, bad, but Religion is not." ~ Kurt Godel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:19:31 No.13731735 Report

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Nice nu-atheismoid/christcuck containment thread you got there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:21:20 No.13731738 Report

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>>13731733
"No! I don't want to die! I'll starve myself to death to avoid being poisoned!" ~ Also Kurt Gödel

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:23:19 No.13731747 Report

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>>13731738
Andddd he resorts to the same shitty ad hom against a logical genius no less.
We are LAUGHING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:26:09 No.13731755 Report

Quoted By: >>13731770

>>13731733
>You dogmatists will never know true science, only scientism.
What are you on about, you deranged religitard? I'm not arguing anything for or against any gods, nor for or against materialism. I'm just telling you that Gödel's incompleteness theorems don't tell you much about physical reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:34:12 No.13731770 Report

Quoted By: >>13731773

>>13731755
Your theory of everything can never be proved.
>This was enough to prompt John von Neumann to comment that “it’s all over“.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:35:40 No.13731773 Report

Quoted By: >>13731789 >>13731794

>>13731770
It doesn't need to be "proved". It just needs to be consistent with everything observed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:43:47 No.13731789 Report

Quoted By: >>13731796

>>13731773
>Everything observed
Are you fucking batshit stark mad?
You realize how little of the universe humans have observed? How little of our own ocean even. We will never have a grand theory of OURSELVES or the hard problem of consciousness let alone to presume one of the fucking universe. Delusional grand theory of nothing. REEEEeE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:47:21 No.13731794 Report

Quoted By: >>13731798 >>13731803

>>13731773
>It doesn't need to be "proved". It just needs to be consistent with everything observed.

WHY THE FUCK YOU ARE YOU PEOPLE IGNORING THIS SHIT?

https://youtu.be/Z7cYtk5cdv8

Did... did you stupid fucking monkeys really not thing that this should would be solved online, just like mother fuckers are solving VR and WhatsApp and the rest of this bullshit..

Are you people fucking play acting science or do you actually care?

Jesus fucking christ.
https://youtu.be/Z7cYtk5cdv8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:47:25 No.13731796 Report

Quoted By: >>13731809 >>13731816

>>13731789
>all that incoherent seething
I don't see how it's relevant. A "Theory of Everything" doesn't need to be "proved" in a mathematical sense. It just needs to account for everything we know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:48:33 No.13731798 Report

Quoted By: >>13731807

>>13731794
Please take your medications. You're very clearly mentally ill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:50:22 No.13731803 Report

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>>13731794

IT IS LITERALLY RIGHT HERE YOU FAKE FRAUD FUCKING DAGGOT MOTHER FUCKERS. LITERALLY FUCK YOURSELVES. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU PEOPLE LITERALLY NEED REVOLUTION TO PULL YOUR FUCKING HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES. WE ARE NOT DOING SHIT ON BLACKBOARDS ANYMORE. KIDS ARE FUCKING INCENTING VR IN THEIR FUCKING PARENTS GARAGES. YOU DIDNT THINK SOME DIPSHIP ONLINE WOULD UNIFY PHYSICS????

LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOIRSELFS!!! EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU IS FUCKING FAKE!!!!!

FUCKJNG KILL YOURSELVES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:52:45 No.13731807 Report

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>>13731798

You should unitonically kill yourself before people do it for you in Grench Revolution 2.0.

I swear to fucking God Anon. I'm a pacifist who had a nervous breakdown the first time he accidently killed a fucking bug, but I'm also a prophet in a sense that is deeper than religion and I am telling you, you are marked for death

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:53:44 No.13731809 Report

Quoted By: >>13731815 >>13731821

>>13731796
>A "Theory of Everything" doesn't need to be "proved" in a mathematical sense. It just needs to account for everything we know.
Read this again slow. It just needs to account for everything we know. Doesn’t need to be proved in a mathematical sense. Everything we know. Everything. But it excludes mathema…

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:55:08 No.13731815 Report

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>>13731809
But that's possible, because mathematics excludes itself, as Godel proved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:55:19 No.13731816 Report

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>>13731796

It literally does you fucking parasite. You all are legit going to be fucking killed in French Revolution 2.0.

This is beyond me. I'm a fucking pacifist, but I'm also a "prophet" to use a word that even an old fucking retard faggot bitch like you might understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 08:57:43 No.13731821 Report

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>>13731809
Mathematics isn't a physical observation, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 09:00:20 No.13731825 Report

Quoted By: >>13731830

I swear to fucking God. You people are literally going to be genocide. We cannot go on like this. There is a guy right here in this thread who literally LITERALLY solved all of fucking physics and you don't fucking listen because you only respond to force and your superiors. You are going to be fucming killed by the revolution. Not me. But by waves of humanity that you cannot even fathom.

How the fuck are you ignoring the most basic and obvious proofs for unified science that are literally in this fucming thread???

It's because you don't fucking listen to those "below you". And those below you are now like 99.9 percent of humanity and you are literally going to be murdered. Do you understand?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 09:04:01 No.13731830 Report

Quoted By: >>13731835

>>13731825
Aww, Lisa. Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 09:04:19 No.13731831 Report

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The "Ivy League" no longer exists you ape fucks. What exists now are kids like Palmer Luckey who invented modern VR at 15 years old in his parents garage...

And a kid like that literally fucking unified physics in Excel and you don't listen because you are fucking obsolete and play acting like Einstein, and this is epidemic at all levels of society and WHEN and of this revolution comes you are literally LITERALLY going to be executed as human waste. NOT BY ME. I say this as someone who is, essentially a P R O P H E T. And just like the French you will not listen until your head is removed holy fucking shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 09:08:28 No.13731835 Report

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>>13731830
>Aww, Lisa. Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.

Haha. You really don't get it Anon. And I don't think you ever will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 11:12:03 No.13732022 Report

Quoted By: >>13733677

Gary didn't unify physics dude. We already went over this about a year ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 13:00:50 No.13732201 Report

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>>13731726
yeah all of us smart people should move to china where the least amount of religious people are

china's about 49% atheist so if we try really hard we can make it the first country that's majority atheist

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Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 18:51:32 No.13733195 Report

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>godel will never criticize lain point theory
why live?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Oct 2021 19:22:07 No.13733288 Report

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>>13731637
assuming the law of excluded middle.
ISHYGDDT

This is Sabina

This is Sabina Sat 09 Oct 2021 21:08:16 No.13733677 Report

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>>13732022
>Gary didn't unify physics dude. We already went over this about a year ago.

Imagine seeing what has been happening in computer science the past few years and still believing this. But I am sure they can find a place for you to be I a teacher in public education somewhere, Anon

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