>>13713061This whole thread is pretty much not /sci/ so hopefully jannies will just delete it but I will say I find vaccine mandates kind of troubling from a lot of legal perspectives. People citing pre-WWII legal precedents to justify mandating vaccinations seem like they're ignoring that medical ethics get refactored post-WWII to account for the obvious atrocities of Mengele, Operation 731, blah blah blah, and that these writings lean on the side of hands-off and emphasizing "informed consent," which seems like it's the basis of pretty much every post 1950 liberal project. I'm not really against it, and because I'm not against it, I guess I really do just find the vaccine mandates troubling. And this isn't even talking about the idea that vaccination status is now a tool for economic or political coercion. It's literally in OSHA's own code that an employer can't make you undergo a medical procedure without your consent - mandating COVID tests OR vaccines OR both seems like it's just way over that line. But people just don't seem to care, because they are so, so, scared of COVID. I just don't get it.
I get that the idea of a patient with no formal medical or even scientific education giving informed consent is almost a contradiction in terms, and kind of functionally impossible, but are we just giving up on it? I think I would just appreciate some candour from people that the vaccine mandate is a bad thing ethically but we're doing it for a good cause.
