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Uhhh bros we need more power. A LOT more.

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 16:40:54 2021 No.13693280 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13693304 >>13693355 >>13695247

>Gas in my water heater
>Gas in my fuel tank
>Gas in my oven
>Everyone targeting today's electricity usage
>Going to need at least 5x more power generation in the US alone
Is there even enough materials for batteries + solar to generate that much power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 16:45:02 No.13693292 Report

Quoted By: >>13694790 >>13694850

Nuclear is the answer.
>is there enough materials blah blah blah
Yes. We will always have enough resources. They may become harder to find and collect but there is enough for a very very very long time.
But nuclear is the answer. Solar is a meme since you either need battery back up or some other sort of storage back up which is insanely expensive or use coal/natural gas as backup look at Germany for an example.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 16:47:43 No.13693304 Report

Quoted By: >>13693314 >>13693411

>>13693280
Now factor in the billionaires in the USA and their consumption keeping their fucking warehouses lit 24/7

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 16:49:46 No.13693314 Report

Quoted By: >>13694815 >>13694852

>>13693304
Not to mention their air conditioning (because it's always in tropical climates) for their MANSION is literally more than 10x the amount for a middle class family in a house. And they own multiple mansions, which small subsets of their family use. Don't tell Joe Schmo to take cold showers when he's not the problem.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 17:02:21 No.13693355 Report

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>>13693280
Thorium reactors are the intermediate answer but what we really need are fusion reactors. Improved storage technology and space based solar power could help as well especially if we get industry-proof room-temperature superconductors.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 17:20:34 No.13693411 Report

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>>13693304
>Now factor in the billionaires in the USA
That is a tiny percentage of overall usage. There just aren't that many billionaires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 01:04:54 No.13694790 Report

Quoted By: >>13694799

>>13693292
Question is there enough lithium for the cars and batteries for storage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 01:10:28 No.13694799 Report

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>>13694790
we will strip mine to avoid strip mining

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 01:17:07 No.13694815 Report

Quoted By: >>13695253

>>13693314
the biggest 300 super yachts burn as much as some African countries per year
and it's just entirely retarded waste
don't even think of the environmental cost of manufacturing then in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 01:33:30 No.13694850 Report

Quoted By: >>13695165

>>13693292
>Solar is a meme since you either need battery back
Or just fucking use the energy when its available like they always did? fuck asides form old ass plants, most modern or new plants from many energy sources can curtail or ramp up energy generation to match energy needs based on time of day so it's not like all that solar energy is going to waste at high noon.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 01:34:31 No.13694852 Report

Quoted By: >>13695257

>>13693314
>Joe Schmo to take cold showers when he's not the problem
Joe Schmo also adds to the issue as well anon don't be disingenuous.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 03:57:05 No.13695165 Report

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>>13694850
Except the whole grid shits itself when the sun is blocked because of forest fires nearby. We need two types of storage:
>short-term with 4-10 hours worth of storage
>long-term storage with >30 days worth of storage'
In order to have a backup for just California for 2 weeks would be about 30x more batteries than we produce in a single year.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 04:29:03 No.13695247 Report

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>>13693280
we need not just nuclear but thorium molten salt reactors. because filling that box isnt just about electricty generation.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 04:31:00 No.13695253 Report

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>>13694815
you cant just look at waste heat. comparing the productive output of mega-yacht owners and sub-saharan africas is ridiculous.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 04:33:20 No.13695257 Report

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>>13694852
Fuck off, billionaires take cold showers first

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 19:57:52 No.13697874 Report

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Nuclear and solar.

Honestly, put solar in the desert, problem solved. The government should be building solar panel factories. The math has already been done.

There is no reason to have a world economy based on "production" of junk physical goods. However they're going to try to transition us to buying CSGO skins on Facebook or something, and that's no good. It's better to have a real economy, or no economy. The current "system" exists to prop up GDP and technology for the military industry - if we went back to producing nothing and started living like island ni99as, we'd have no jets or nukes to defend or attack people with.

Anyway, stop burning fossil fuels, problem solved. There is no need to talk about this anymore. It's been a thing for like 50+ years, I don't really want to hear about it anymore as if it's some difficult problem. Like, if there's coal burning in my back yard, I put the fire out. Then it's not burning anymore. Stop burning shit, done. Basically the oil company people and politicians promoting burning shit should be sent to execution. Finished. Discussion over. Then we can work on real problems that are actually hard to solve.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 20:02:21 No.13697893 Report

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>13693304

>Now factor in the billionaires in the USA
>That is a tiny percentage of overall usage. There just aren't that many billionaires.

I've met a few people in real-life who use 4chan. Slow dumb-brain normie slug people. "Yo... 4chan is my SHIT, bro..." Now I have a mental picture of what you fucking people are in real life. Normies are literally fucking brain-dead.

What kind of fucking idiot would think "billionaires" consume a lot of power? Did you watch a youtube video about someone flying a private jet and got scared by the big numbers?

Fucking hell dude, the human race needs to be eradicated. No more cell phones, no more anything. Just die.

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