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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 15:34:46 2021 No.13674019 View Reply Original Report

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How did we get here. We are all actually real but how. Why is there something and not nothing. And why is the world like this and not something else.

Can you see out of your own eyes too? Why are those your eyes? What are you and who are you? Why do my hands have five fingers.

How did you arrive here and where are you going to go afterwards ?

Are you real?

And what are you?

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 15:41:58 No.13674047 Report

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>>13674019
>These where the questions that kept me up at night, when I was ~14yo.

Now pressing 40 my much more mature philosophical perspective, guided by the wisdom age has granted me, can be summarized thus: "Who gives a shit? Enjoy your stay."

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 15:42:34 No.13674049 Report

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>>13674019
bc u touch urself at night

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 17:23:21 No.13674380 Report

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>>13674019
>How did we get here
you logged in
>We are all actually real but how
You exist in the real world
>Why is there something and not nothing
Because every program fills a chunk of RAM with things
>And why is the world like this and not something else
That is the product development team's fault
>Can you see out of your own eyes too?
Not normally, but there is such a thing as 3rd person view
Why are those your eyes?
I got this body in my last respawn
>What are you and who are you?
Another player
>Why do my hands have five fingers.
Because why not
>How did you arrive here and where are you going to go afterwards ?
Apparently I'm a faggot gaymer who likes simulators
>Are you real?
Yep
>And what are you?
I am not allowed to access that information while playing

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 17:39:39 No.13674453 Report

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>>13674019
>Why is x like x and not y
Because if it was y and not x, you'd be asking yourself the same thing about y (or you wouldn't be able to ask anything at all)
Science is not about the why but the how, for the why, go to church

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 18:31:17 No.13674668 Report

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>>13674019
Do you actually want to know? All things are fundamentally nothing. Appearance of something arises in nothing and falls back into it. Watch a thought in your brain appear from nothing and vanish back into nothing.

Like waves in the ocean, you see them and then they crash back down into the ocean. This is what happens to your mind and body just like all things.

This isn't bullshit but it's not something intuitive or that can be explained in depth in a few posts. The brain ensures it is unintuitive because if it did not, it would not survive, as strong sense of a self and stark distinctions is critical for survival. Here is me, there is not me, etc.

Your mind isn't what's seeing out of your eyes. Your mind is the vessel through which that nothing sees its "dream" which is the universe. As such, "your" consciousness is a misnomer, the same exact thing that sees through your eyes is presently and simultaneously seeing through mine.

There is no nothing in exclusion of something, nor something in exclusion of nothing. There is no real distinction, it is an illusion of multiple within one singular "it" which can't be given any word.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:29:46 No.13674890 Report

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>>13674047
based

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:35:06 No.13674919 Report

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>>13674019
http://immortality-roadmap.com/universeorigin7.pdf

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:36:13 No.13674927 Report

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>>13674019
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KdDNfTREQJU

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:48:36 No.13674977 Report

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>>13674019
I've never tried it, but many people have reported having hallucinations while in sensory deprivation. We are perceivers, and builders of mental models. When denied data from external sources, our minds just start making shit up.

>Why is there something rather than nothing?
There may not be. We know our mental models of reality are not void of things that exist. But that doesn't mean much about any actually-existing, external, independent reality. If you let yourself think too much about this, you'll just waste a lot of time.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:52:14 No.13674992 Report

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>>13674019
>Why is there something and not nothing
name a more midwit phrase
(you can't)

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 20:01:22 No.13675024 Report

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>>13674047
>"Who gives a shit? Enjoy your stay."
this.

>>13674019
The kind of OP questions tend to become irrelevant with age as you gain more and more perspective with time. There's no shortcut for it, but to have "experience" living.

Even if the same questions remain unanswered, put yourself in the case:
what if there is actually an answer to those questions?
what if the answers fits what you expected?
what if it doesn't?
what if somebody, something or anything grants you there is answers to your questions but you're no capable of understanding them?
Even if you get an answer you can understand and fits (or doesn't) whith what you were expecting or conjecturing, what would you do with that information afterwards?

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 20:14:21 No.13675061 Report

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>>13675024
Scentific inquiry is all about getting as many answers as possible, even if they would be practically useless, even if you would not like the answers
If there was a God ad he was listening, I'd ask him about all of that

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 20:17:00 No.13675069 Report

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>>13674047
fpbp

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 20:17:48 No.13675072 Report

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>>13675061
>Scentific inquiry is all about getting as many answers as possible
mm i think that's debatable. such statement sounds like a sort of positivist point of view.
But that would be more a /lit/ kind of post than /sci/. Where we draw the line? at the limit of our comprehension? the limit of what we should do? at what are we able to do? and so on.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 20:23:31 No.13675089 Report

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>>13675072
>Where we draw the line?
Where we cause unnecessary harm to others in our research, anything else is fair game, and why would not it be?
Though I guess there's leeway in the definitions of "necessary" and "others"

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 20:28:16 No.13675103 Report

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>>13675089
that's a strong point to stick to.
Since definitions depends on individuals and language, we can argue what "is" each term to accommodate to our points of view. Then it's easy to extend and argument as long as we want.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 20:30:06 No.13675108 Report

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can someone just ask the simulation operator to turn the universe difficulty down a notch. it's currently at like ultra hard mortal kombat difficulty setting and not really enjoyable anymore. like just remove jews from the source code, reset the game and let us enjoy the universe. thanks

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 20:56:23 No.13675176 Report

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>>13674668
Jai guru dev.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 04:17:06 No.13676344 Report

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>>13674019
You're talking about self-consciousness, and what you really want is a restoration of a feeling of essential being.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 05:51:53 No.13676524 Report

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>>13674019
The answer to most of your questions (besides the five finger one and eyes) is we don't know but it's okay. When you first start getting existential dread like this it can be scary for years but after looking a bit more into spirituality and philosophy there's another side of this you might not be considering: the fact that you are aware, are exist, can posit that there's more to all of this than we understand. the fact that you can feel the something that is your awareness, your you when you close your eyes, that energy or self that is more than simply your body parts ((could)) be an illusion or could be the universe looking at itself or something entirely else. the fact that you're freaked out about it and that you're panicking is in my eyes a comfy drop in the bucket of "okay i gained sentience and so that means that there's more to this than meets the eye" because your sentience came to you. it came. as in it wasn't and then it was. so maaaybbbbeee it might not be entirely dependent on you physically? also being high and seeing how different perception of the world can get really does sort of toss more disbelief into the notion of everything being clear cut which adds to this notion of maybe there's more behind the curtain than meets the eye but ultimately freaking out about it doesn't help because it's happening anyway.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 06:22:59 No.13676586 Report

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>>13674019
I don't know, but I'm convinced that the people who claim to be deeply distraught by these questions, are suffering from poor diet, poor sleep, boredom and social retardation, but they reverse the causal relationship to convince themselves that they're tormented intellectuals rather than just losers.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 07:29:49 No.13676713 Report

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It is God, to put it simply.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 07:41:47 No.13676734 Report

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>>13674019
>We are all actually real
And how do you actually know that? For all we actually know you and I are just a thought power beings mind.
>Why is there something and not nothing
Better to avoid this question, it'll drive you insane.
>Can you see out of your own eyes too?
What I see out of my eyes and what you see are both up to interpretation, we never truly see reality.
>Are you real?
A real illusion.

OP, I would highly recommend reading pic related. It'll clear things up a lot, at least on the scientific side of things.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 07:49:36 No.13676747 Report

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>>13676734
>don't trust your eyes, peasant
>trust the experts
>it's the way of science!!
A book from the final stages of a dying civilization.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 11:07:29 No.13677225 Report

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>>13674019
Why are you you and not me? Why am I me and not you? This question has never been satisfactorily answered by any field of study.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 11:15:12 No.13677242 Report

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Take your meds stupid christfag. The universe isnt some devine mystery you reetard. Its explainable by science.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 11:16:24 No.13677246 Report

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>>13677242
Oh yeah? Then explain it. Now.

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