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Studying and Burning out.

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 15:29:52 2021 No.13662587 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13662642 >>13662754 >>13662850 >>13662857 >>13663016 >>13666974 >>13668940 >>13669044 >>13669614 >>13674900

>be me
>have no motivation
>find motivation
>start studying 10h+ a day
>2 weeks in start getting a light headache few hours before sleep
>4 weeks in and I'm ill
>can't study anymore, lose motivation
>repeat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 15:53:32 No.13662642 Report

Quoted By: >>13662659

>>13662587
Maybe dont study so much? No reason to rush things, the fact is some topics just take time to sink in, trying to cram wont change that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 15:58:07 No.13662659 Report

Quoted By: >>13662708 >>13662880 >>13666974 >>13668945 >>13669225 >>13674900 >>13674933

>>13662642
I enjoy studying, so I do. This seems the most productive, anyways:
a) problems with memorization are resolved with daily Anki (not just definitions, &c., but also prompts to e.g. prove something)
b) 10 * 7 * 4 = 280 hours of studying/month
c) 2 * 7 * 2 = 28 hours of headache/month
d) Tetris effect
e) Dreaming about things studied (incl. proving theorems while sleeping).
f) Dopamine on check, no interest in games/movies &c.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 16:13:02 No.13662708 Report

Quoted By: >>13662743

>>13662659
it really doesnt matter if you enjoy it or not, anything that isnt trivial or basic needs time to sink in that is regardless of studying it. I would study at most 4 or 5 hours a day to avoid burnout. Additionally, because 10 hours is a long time you might want to progress a lot, but I would limit myself to just a couple proofs or problems per day. Dont go for the distance, but go for quality.

>10*7*4=280 hours per month
>but you only go for one month so its 280 hours total

>5*100 = 500 hours total, plus you have 5 more hours of the day to do other stuff, plus you are less likely to burn out, plus by going slower you dont forget things as easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 16:24:31 No.13662743 Report

Quoted By: >>13666974

>>13662708
In these 10h I study econ(fin), cs, and math. Shouldn't it be enough for it to 'sink in'? Also I lose motivation for a couple of days (illness and recovery), so 280h is a decent approximation. I don't know where you've got 500h from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 16:26:40 No.13662754 Report

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>>13662587
Can you get that things where your muslces break down too much and poison your kidneys? But with your brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 16:57:44 No.13662850 Report

Quoted By: >>13662880 >>13674850

>>13662587
Read 20% of the time, the rest of the time try to process what you read, doing problems and asking questions yourself about the consequences or proofs about what you did read. That way that 20% of content will really sink in.
100% of reading shit will only result in you having a poor understanding of everything.
Of course it will not take you 80% of the time maybe, maybe less, maybe more, but the point is that you exhaust your doubts about the content and you make it so that you are able to reproduce the content yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 16:59:44 No.13662857 Report

Quoted By: >>13662880

>>13662587
what is it that you are you putting off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 17:05:14 No.13662880 Report

Quoted By: >>13662998

>>13662850
When I read, I understand everything. I obviously do all the worthwhile exercises after reading theory - that's their point.
>>13662857
See >>13662659

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 17:45:05 No.13662998 Report

Quoted By: >>13665231

>>13662880
Have your tried incorporating some calisthenics and or socializing in this schedule?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 17:50:29 No.13663016 Report

Quoted By: >>13665231

>>13662587
>>start studying 10h+ a day
retard

>2 weeks in start getting a light headache few hours before sleep
exercise

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Sep 2021 04:39:29 No.13665231 Report

Quoted By: >>13665290 >>13668949

>>13663016
i do yoga
>>13662998
socializing is 4chan and discord, whereas calisthenics is impossible because it requires equipment which I do not currently have

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Sep 2021 05:14:13 No.13665290 Report

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>>13665231
dude go to the woods and get some rocks from the ground

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Anonymous Tue 21 Sep 2021 14:55:43 No.13666290 Report

Quoted By: >>13666350 >>13668949 >>13669217 >>13674852

Glad I checked the catalog before making a nearly identical thread:

Has anyone else had any luck it gaining back their drive and motivation to learn after losing it? I used to spend a lot of time studying on my own for fun but after joining the workforce out of college, I have no motivation anymore. Sometimes I catch a brief spark every now and then, but it never lasts. I just want to enjoy doing math problems again for no other reason than to learn more. I'm not looking to use this knowledge anywhere or anything, I just want the passion back

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Sep 2021 15:16:44 No.13666350 Report

Quoted By: >>13666398

>>13666290
OP here, your problem is different than mine because I'm in school and enjoy my studying sessions. I'm both intrinsically and extrinisically motivated, so maybe that's the issue? Don't remember what it's called (I remember reading about it in a textbook on Organizational Behavior) but imposing extrinsical motivation on intrinsic rather than the other way around leads to the decrease in overall motivation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Sep 2021 15:29:33 No.13666398 Report

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>>13666350
Hmm I'm not sure if I'm imposing extrinsic motivation to my own intrinsic motivation since I'm not shooting for any sort of reward. I think it has to do with general feelings of hopelessness related to being stuck at a dead end job, but I can't be completely sure. My patience is much shorter and my attention just doesn't get gripped like it did before.
As for my suggestion to you: I would avoid studying for 10hrs a day. That is a brain-frying amount of studying and probably does more harm than good as I can only imagine a lot of those hours, most likely towards the end of the day, are much less productive. Other posters are also right about letting things sink in. You are overloading your brain. Also take more frequent breaks, which is something I also struggle with especially when I feel like I'm on a roll with something. Taking a pause and reciting what you just learned aloud also really helps solidify the information better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Sep 2021 17:56:33 No.13666974 Report

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>>13662587
>>13662659
>>13662743
>the absolute state of midwits

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:21:52 No.13668940 Report

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>>13662587
>start studying 10h+ a day
Your mistake
>2 weeks in start getting a light headache few hours before sleep
>4 weeks in and I'm ill
You kept doing it lmao just study less
>can't study anymore, lose motivation
I wonder why

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:23:31 No.13668945 Report

Quoted By: >>13668975

>>13662659
How do I study as much as you? Please tell me your secret. I want desperately to be you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:24:37 No.13668949 Report

Quoted By: >>13668975

>>13665231
>Socalizing is 4chan and discord
Have you tried doing something in real life? Finding a club?
>>13666290
Just accept that progress will be slower now that you have less time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:29:15 No.13668975 Report

Quoted By: >>13669006

>>13668945
By imposing intinsic upon extrinsic motivation.
>>13668949
Doing something in real life is neither currently possible, nor productive - people in these clubs aren't actually dedicated to the subject matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:36:45 No.13669006 Report

Quoted By: >>13669013

>>13668975
I love what I do, but at the end of the day I just feel very tired like I cant keep up the working pace anymore. How do you overcome such feelings and continue working past that limit? I have the intrinsic motivation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:38:47 No.13669013 Report

Quoted By: >>13669027

>>13669006
By having no intrinsic nor extrinsic motivation to do other things. I also believe that the limit can be lifted

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:43:39 No.13669027 Report

Quoted By: >>13669052

>>13669013
Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure I'm fully understanding what you are saying. How can you have no motivation to do other things, like right here we are talking on 4chan, I could be looking at a form to become a reviewer for this journal. I'm sure you have some other task also, that would be more interesting to you. So, why are we here when there are other things that would be more interesting?

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Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:49:00 No.13669044 Report

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>>13662587
iktfb
>work and study all day erry day since january
>10-16 hr days
>not even weekends off
>feel so tired all the time for over 2 weeks now
>sleep in 16hrs a day
>need to finish work for deadlines
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 04:51:39 No.13669052 Report

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>>13669027
I post on 4chan either at ~6pm or while eating my greek yoghurt. It's a rule-based routine. I don't necessarily enjoy posting on 4chan, but I do because there's some worth in it. Without intrinsic motivation, and the lack of obligation, I could search for a substitute. For you studying is like posting on 4chan is for me - the moment circumstances change you no longer do it. When I'm tired due to studying, then unless I have something else to do that'd be more productive, I continue with it - say, work done = quality * time, the quality may be decreasing, but the work done is never zero. It's up to you to calculate the opportunity cost and act accordingly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 05:04:57 No.13669078 Report

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>/sci/ - my gay blog that no one cares about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 06:26:36 No.13669217 Report

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>>13666290
I studied as much as OP, but for 2 months prior to the exam at least.
I am a 30 year old drop out. I had to switch degrees 3 times and kept failing degrees despite busting my ass off. Now I am a NEET and will never have the life I worked towards it and have to listen to people who never did 1% of the work I did that I am lazy and just didn't work hard enough.

IQ is everything in life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 06:33:00 No.13669225 Report

Quoted By: >>13674863

>>13662659
Anki is useless for science

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 10:42:44 No.13669614 Report

Quoted By: >>13670360

>>13662587
>getting a light headache
...which I get nearly every night.
Aspirin + Ibuprofen takes care of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 10:47:05 No.13669627 Report

Quoted By: >>13670360 >>13675757

>try to study
>just see words without actually absorbing anything
>5 minutes later open youtube/reddit/4chan/discord

how do i fucking stop being such a retarded adhd spez

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 11:41:15 No.13669757 Report

Quoted By: >>13669766 >>13670360

do you guys even remember 1/5 of the shit you learn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 11:45:22 No.13669766 Report

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>>13669757
No. But I remember what word to look up on Google if I want to use something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 12:07:15 No.13669848 Report

Quoted By: >>13670360

>study 10 hours
lectures included ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 14:58:51 No.13670360 Report

Quoted By: >>13670379 >>13672131

>>13669614
Which is why you have them every night
>>13669627
By imposing intrinsic upon extrinsic motivation
>>13669757
Everything that I need to remember is in Anki as prompts of some kind
>>13669848
Just reading the textbook & solving the exercises

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 15:04:17 No.13670379 Report

Quoted By: >>13673117

>>13670360
> intrinsic
>extrinsic
just stop saying these words already
>anki
How much time you spend making your decks ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Sep 2021 15:30:48 No.13670466 Report

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Wow! It's fucking nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 00:05:04 No.13672131 Report

Quoted By: >>13673117

>>13670360
God you must be insanely autistic
>intrinsic
>extrinsic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 07:07:45 No.13673117 Report

Quoted By: >>13675861

>>13670379
>>13672131
This is the proper terminology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:17:37 No.13674850 Report

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>>13662850
This, but for different reasons (at least for me). If you spend the majority of your time reading and not doing problems, thinking about what you just learned, etc, you'll just forget about it. Or, you'll forget the details

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:19:57 No.13674852 Report

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>>13666290
For me it's not really motivation which makes me study, it's more of habit. After a period of not studying I don't have any motivation whatsoever. However, after forcing myself to study at least one hour a day for around a month, it just becomes a habit and I don't need any motivation to get started

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:23:21 No.13674863 Report

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>>13669225
Spaced repetition is valuable, but it's just that using Anki becomes tedious and time consuming with anything involving equations, proofs, and diagrams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:32:16 No.13674900 Report

Quoted By:

>>13662659
>>13662587
You can probably get the same results with 25% the effort lol

Chill and let your gut spur you into action at the exact right time through deadline panic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 19:37:38 No.13674933 Report

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>>13662659
%100 you gonna be burned out on studying in no time.
Also are you on any medications? Dreaming about studying and 10h studying sessions sounds familiar with adderall

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 00:22:44 No.13675757 Report

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>>13669627
This happens to me but with homework from other subjects. Kind of happens initially before I start doing maths, but after I sit down and start (actively) reading and working on problems, I stay focused until I finish a section.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Sep 2021 01:06:55 No.13675861 Report

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>>13673117
And what do they mean?

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