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Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 18:38:00 2021 No.13653062 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13653100 >>13653105 >>13653119 >>13653207 >>13653287 >>13653315 >>13653366 >>13653512 >>13653895 >>13653905 >>13655772 >>13655869 >>13655984

>We should do something to save the earth from climate change
>Oh no not me, just everyone richer then me
how do we solve this problem? Everyone just points to people richer then them and says they are the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 18:41:50 No.13653077 Report

Quoted By: >>13653110 >>13653240

good point OP, in fact both the rich and the subhuman lumpens that give them money are the problem
the solution: nuke USA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 18:47:28 No.13653100 Report

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>>13653062
Also most people who bitch about climate change are actually the upper class faggots that travel far more than your average joe. And that usually by plane

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 18:48:13 No.13653105 Report

Quoted By: >>13653126

>>13653062
i never seen a retard like you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 18:48:59 No.13653110 Report

Quoted By: >>13654326

>>13653077
>the solution: nuclearize USA

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Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 18:50:55 No.13653119 Report

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>>13653062
>>We should do something to save the earth from climate change
we shouldn't
Im switching my '65 to 6l '69 mustang next spring!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 18:51:51 No.13653126 Report

Quoted By: >>13653170

>>13653105
what? Ask people why they continue to drive cars/planes etc. They are hypocrites all the way up the income pyramid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 18:54:35 No.13653145 Report

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>thinking you can do anything about climate change

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:00:50 No.13653170 Report

Quoted By: >>13653190 >>13653341

>>13653126
what can a peasant like you do that will actually make a difference?
you do not own factories, you are not trading billions overseas, you are not in any council responsible for distributing clean energy.
It's the fault of these people, they've ruined the world so it's probably only reasonable to require them to clean up after themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:05:25 No.13653190 Report

Quoted By: >>13653237

>>13653170
the people who are employed by the rich will go into abject poverty if we just shutdown the economy, even with green regulations. At the moment, and probably forever, green energy will be nowhere near as efficient as traditional energy.

this is why you never see poor people that are protesting for climate change action, unless it is staged by a government.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:10:13 No.13653207 Report

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>>13653062
NO. FREAKING. WAY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:22:42 No.13653237 Report

Quoted By: >>13653259 >>13653345

>>13653190
>the people who are employed by the rich will go into abject poverty
anon think think... this is very simple, having said all that, what is the root of the problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:24:10 No.13653240 Report

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>>13653077
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:29:19 No.13653259 Report

Quoted By: >>13653275

>>13653237
youre right, we should just nuke/starve the poor and start a new world order eugenics program

im sorry i tried to discuss actual plausible solutions anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:37:10 No.13653275 Report

Quoted By: >>13654550

>>13653259
I meant to say take all the capital from the rich, than genocide the poor and start a new world order

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:43:31 No.13653287 Report

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>>13653062
There is no problem. Buy land in cold areas if you think this is real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 19:53:18 No.13653315 Report

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>>13653062
The rich also do this but they ask for the working class to reduce their living space and nutrient intake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:06:41 No.13653341 Report

Quoted By: >>13653458

>>13653170
>waaaaah waaaah it's not my fault waaaah waaaah it's the other guy waaaah waaah I'm just a peasant waaaah waaaaah I have no responsibility waaaaaaaaaaaaah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:07:51 No.13653345 Report

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>>13653237
>what is the root of the problem?
high living standards

Arno Niem

Arno Niem Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:14:52 No.13653366 Report

Quoted By: >>13653376

>>13653062
Per capita energy use by country
(ignore Iceland; they have geothermal energy)
is a metric you could use to decide where the biggest problems are.

Do you want a hint?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:16:45 No.13653376 Report

Quoted By: >>13653391

>>13653366
>renewables and nuclear power is equally terrible as coal, oil and gas
Your entire world view is flawed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:19:48 No.13653391 Report

Quoted By: >>13653398 >>13653411

>>13653376
>The existence of renewables and nuclear justifies running the AC because the heater is set too high
Your entire world view is flawed

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Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:22:04 No.13653398 Report

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>>13653391
>>The existence of renewables and nuclear justifies running the AC because the heater is set too high
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:25:43 No.13653411 Report

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>>13653391
>have obscene amounts of power bein generated because turning shit off and on is inefficient
>it will be produced regardless on whether you need it
>literally nothing is wasted on having the AC and heater running at the same time
Your entire, flawed world view isn't even a view because it lacks seeing the bigger picture, and that very hard.
Now go turn on your AC. The kids in Africa would be happy about the elecricity!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:37:11 No.13653458 Report

Quoted By: >>13653884

>>13653341
if you really care about this world, you should kill yourself, less energy and co2 emissions for 1 person It's really worth the sacrifice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 20:54:40 No.13653512 Report

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>>13653062
So wrong. The rich point to the poor, saying to live more conservatively while riding their private jets and saying that poor people should move to industrialized, carbon-heavy urban areas. it's all a capitalist scheme to extort the poor into consooming more and urbanizing more.

Arno Niem

Arno Niem Fri 17 Sep 2021 22:24:58 No.13653884 Report

Quoted By: >>13654551

>>13653458
Well, the sensible thing would be to nuke Niger and Nigeria; one has the highest birthrate in the world (6.85), the other is at over 5. And they are neighbouring countries with too similar names too.

Fewer people, less waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 22:26:55 No.13653895 Report

Quoted By: >>13656003

>>13653062
Because the rich are overwhelmingly the cause of the problem
https://b8f65cb373b1b7b15feb-c70d8ead6ced550b4d987d7c03fcdd1d.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/cms/reports/documents/000/002/327/original/Carbon-Majors-Report-2017.pdf?1499691240

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 22:27:55 No.13653897 Report

Quoted By: >>13653908 >>13654316 >>13656003

1. 100 corporations cause 70% of global emissions, so it really is """their""" problem

2. That aside, most people I know that really care about climate change actually do take steps to reduce their carbon footprint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 22:30:08 No.13653905 Report

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>>13653062
They can't even get clean water to every town in a first world country, yet they want to try and alter the climate of the fucking earth. Think about how utterly retarded this is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 22:30:39 No.13653908 Report

Quoted By: >>13653916

>>13653897
>100 corporations cause 70% of global emissions
...directly providing services for the people producing the other 30%.
The general populace supports and directly funds producing those greenhouse gasses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Sep 2021 22:34:07 No.13653916 Report

Quoted By: >>13654322

>>13653908
The problem is that your individual contribution is meaningless so long as those corporations continue to pollute and they will continue to pollute so long as it's profitable. What we need is direct legislative action because only government is big enough to force those companies to stop. They won't willingly stop polluting on their own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 01:57:51 No.13654316 Report

Quoted By: >>13654552 >>13655973

>>13653897
>it really is """their""" problem
And who consumes from said corporations? Virtually all of us. They're just fulfilling our demand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 02:00:21 No.13654322 Report

Quoted By: >>13655978

>>13653916
>What we need is direct legislative action because only government is big enough to force those companies to stop. They won't willingly stop polluting on their own.
The USSR, which had the big government you dream about, was more polluted than western countries.

https://fee.org/articles/why-socialism-causes-pollution/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 02:02:36 No.13654326 Report

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>>13653110
Only right awnser then get the plastic out of the ocean. Everything else is a waste of money or solved with cheap electricity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 05:03:15 No.13654550 Report

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>>13653275
Fuck off gommie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 05:04:41 No.13654551 Report

Quoted By: >>13655725

>>13653884
Indeed. Let's just nuke africa. It's all sand anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 05:08:25 No.13654552 Report

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>>13654316
Expecting virtually everyone in the US to change their habits is a non-starter. It's not politically feasible and will be fought tooth and nail. Instead, we should be working on solutions that minimally impact the population while solving the problem. Namely:
>A LOT of non-carbon power sources (e.g. nuclear, solar w/backup)
>Power-to-hydrogen/methane/"e-crude"/hydrocarbons
Use the captured CO2 from the air to create plastics for long-term storage

Arno Niem

Arno Niem Sat 18 Sep 2021 18:36:34 No.13655725 Report

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>>13654551
Oh no no.

Austria and Australia next. I can't stand countries with too-similar names.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 18:41:54 No.13655736 Report

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SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!!!!
seriously, something must be done.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mptNDINqYnQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 18:46:15 No.13655748 Report

Quoted By: >>13655825 >>13655840 >>13655862

Nuclear is not the solution. It goes wrong and poisons the planet for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Reduce energy requirements. Get rid of shite like instagram and tiktok. Imagine the impact of keeping those services running.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 18:55:30 No.13655772 Report

Quoted By: >>13656003

>>13653062
>Oh no not me, just everyone richer then me
Yeah this makes sense, only people in positions of power can do anything about climate change, regular joes buying solar panels won't solve climate change, Exxon mobile building a nuclear power plant instead of build a coal or natural gas one will do something about climate change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 19:29:31 No.13655824 Report

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I am much more worried about energy in terms of running out of fossil fuels. Not gonna give a flying fuck about climate change since (((they))) want to just make as much money as possible to be in power forever with their insane solutions.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 19:30:32 No.13655825 Report

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>>13655748
Modern nuclear designs are safer, cleaner, and more powerful than the alternatives. Contemporary Gen4 designs (e.g. TerraPower, NuScale) have passive safety mechanisms which will shut down the reactor even if you have a complete loss of cooling, internal, and external power. Other plant designs, such as integral fast reactors, also have such safety measures as well as being able to reduce our nuclear waste stockpile by using it as fuel.
Cost is a concern, but it is something unique to US regulations that makes it so expensive. Other countries have successfully brought up nuclear plants more recently and for less than the costs of solar installations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 19:40:43 No.13655840 Report

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>>13655748
>It goes wrong and poisons the planet for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Brainlet detected.
>Reduce energy requirements.
Never happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 19:52:08 No.13655862 Report

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>>13655748
We have decades of safe reactor development research, the only major accident within 3 decades (fukushima) was the result of a major environmental disaster. Nuclear is absolutely the way to preserve our planet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 19:56:35 No.13655869 Report

Quoted By: >>13655999

>>13653062
Easy!

-Instate a global authoritarian government.
-Send a few billion to the gulags.
-Distribute some knowledge and tech to some shithole places. (trouble makers burning books/looting for scrap get the gulags)
-Vehicle ownership is made illegal. (take a bus, plane or bicycle, chud. If you want a joyride, rent a thing)
-Businesses that don't comply with pollution, employment, and waste-management standards get the guillotine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:39:55 No.13655973 Report

Quoted By: >>13655990

>>13654316
Corporations have worked tirelessly for decades to create demand where there previously was none, and to continuously pressure more and more demand beyond what a normal, non-manipulated baseline would be. This is how they maximize profits, the main tenant of the growth of capital, so there's no silly conspiracy theory bullshit here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:41:37 No.13655978 Report

Quoted By: >>13655995 >>13656003

>>13654322
From wikipedia:

>"The Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) is an American conservative libertarian economic think tank."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:45:18 No.13655984 Report

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>>13653062
>We should do something to save the earth from climate change
Define change.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:48:27 No.13655990 Report

Quoted By: >>13656001

>>13655973
>Corporations have worked tirelessly for decades to create demand where there previously was none, and to continuously pressure more and more demand beyond what a normal, non-manipulated baseline would be.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you are fucking delusional.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:49:46 No.13655995 Report

Quoted By: >>13656011

>>13655978
Even better. What's the problem?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:51:34 No.13655999 Report

Quoted By: >>13656043

>>13655869
>t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:52:25 No.13656001 Report

Quoted By:

>>13655990
You're right anon, corporations definitely do not seek out methods by which to maximize revenue, and have never involved themselves in public discourse to steer narratives in directions which either benefit them or avoid damaging their brands. That's just a commie conspiracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:52:27 No.13656003 Report

Quoted By: >>13656195

>>13655978
>this organization has a political persuasion that matches its ideas
truly remarkable insight anon

>>13653897
>>13653895
>>13655772

youre all missing the point, even the so called "rich" will just point to people richer then them and say they are the ones "truly" in control. Its a never ending blame shift game. After all, the average joe in america is in the top 20% in the world. thats pretty fucking rich.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 20:54:38 No.13656011 Report

Quoted By: >>13656229

>>13655995
If this image is an attempt to own me, rest assured this degenerate would be one of the first against the wall in my socialist utopia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 21:05:19 No.13656043 Report

Quoted By:

>>13655999
KeK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 21:56:46 No.13656195 Report

Quoted By:

>>13656003
>After all, the average joe in america is in the top 20% in the world. thats pretty fucking rich.
the avrege joe has absolutely zero agency over any policy that would affect climate change, what he does, does not matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 22:07:36 No.13656229 Report

Quoted By:

>>13656011
>this degenerate would be one of the first against the wall in my socialist utopia
The second one would be you.

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