>>13650403>what seems to be a non-physical thing (consciousness)Maybe to you. To me, it seems like a thing related to the number of tomato soup cans in my drawer. So what?
>emerge from a physical system? You tell me.
>Unless consciousness is physical? You're the one asking the seemingly (obvious) rhetorical questions. So maybe you think you have it all already figured out.
>A state of matter perhaps? Call the science teachers you had when you were 13, ask them for a refund.
>Or is it something more fundamental, perhaps a property of all matter in some senseLook, I like tomato soup as much as the next guy, but I won't ask the soup how it feels to be slurped down.
>we're just so complex that we can contemplate not only the things around us but even ourselves?Complex? You're obviously not complex. For I, not you, am the authority on whether or not something is or isn't complex. m'kay? Be more specific.
>So then, what are we?monke on an Indonesian straw-hat weaving forum
>These are genuine questions, No one with a genuine question ever says that. No one.
>please if science You should just call science's number and ask it yourself. Maybe shoot science an email or text. Maybe ask scientists for the location of science's office for an in-person meeting.
>has been empirically proven I will accept it. Accept it? You can prove it yourself, just provide the necessary data, any useful metadata, references to past data/conclusions used, your methods, hypothesis, how the data supports your hypothesis. And get other people to check for nonsense and errors.
>Have there been any studies? Ask Google scholar. Or get your own credentials, make your own studies.
>I am not a theist btw, I am agnosticYou should have mentioned how many hours me and your mom were going at it last night. It's a more relevant fact.