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force of will mind discipline

Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 03:15:14 2021 No.13627355 View Reply Original Report

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Scientifically and objectively speaking:

how do i train myself to control my will completely. I mean budhist monks can turn themselves on fire and not flinch. Surely theres a way for me to learn how to work on things i like 24/7.

I mean if you want to learn how to play the piano theres a method, if you want to learn how to do a handstand theres a method.

Humanity has been around for tens of thousands of years, surely theres a method to learn how to learn and control your mind discipline and actions constnatly, and surely it has been polished and mix maxed to the absolute maximum of maximum efficiencies, what is this discipline called?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 03:21:23 No.13627367 Report

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>>13627355
start pretending you have self discipline until you have self discipline and don't tell anyone about it.
goodbye

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 03:26:34 No.13627385 Report

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>>13627367
what is th eobjective name of this way of life? where is the rule book?

like, want to learn war? its tsun tzu
want to learn what i described above? what is the fountain of knowldoge i should dive into the deep end?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 03:41:01 No.13627418 Report

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>>13627355
>surely theres a method to learn how to learn and control your mind discipline and actions constnatly
read the title of the book in the picture
read it again
read it again and again and again and again
until you get it

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 03:45:07 No.13627427 Report

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Stop cooming and stop being a slave to sexual desire. You'll have free will again like when you were a kid. Ultimately, you are what you do.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 05:18:37 No.13627651 Report

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>>13627355
Mindfulness meditation daily. 15m+

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 15:45:00 No.13628965 Report

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>>13627651
any guide for this? what does mindfulnes mean, not thinking about anyhting? but if i do it on purpose then it means i thinked, is it possibel to do it if you ever t hinked, can you erase your mind of past and future?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 18:52:42 No.13629481 Report

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>>13628965
Mindfulness is to bring present awareness to your experience. Mindfulness meditation usually includes the process of bringing present awareness to breathing to various degrees (feeling air go in and out through your lungs and/or feeling your diaphragm go up and down).

Other methods include: present awareness of sensation in your entire body or particular parts of your body. You could also be mindful of your mental/emotional experience.

Directing mindfulness to breathing and body sensations is generally the easiest and best way. I personally mix breathing and full body awareness techniques, but I would just start with breathing.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 18:53:43 No.13629484 Report

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>>13629481
To get you started, here's a generic template of how mindfulness meditation generally works:

Sit comfortably. Find a spot that gives you a stable, solid, comfortable seat.

Notice what your legs are doing. If on a cushion, cross your legs comfortably in front of you. If on a chair, rest the bottoms of your feet on the floor.

Straighten your upper body—but don’t stiffen. Your spine has natural curvature. Let it be there.

Notice what your arms are doing. Situate your upper arms parallel to your upper body. Rest the palms of your hands on your legs wherever it feels most natural.

Soften your gaze. Drop your chin a little and let your gaze fall gently downward. It’s not necessary to close your eyes. You can simply let what appears before your eyes be there without focusing on it.

Feel your breath. Bring your attention to the physical sensation of breathing: the air moving through your nose or mouth, the rising and falling of your belly, or your chest.

Notice when your mind wanders from your breath. Inevitably, your attention will leave the breath and wander to other places. Don’t worry. There’s no need to block or eliminate thinking. When you notice your mind wandering gently return your attention to the breath.

Be kind about your wandering mind. You may find your mind wandering constantly—that’s normal, too. Instead of wrestling with your thoughts, practice observing them without reacting. Just sit and pay attention. As hard as it is to maintain, that’s all there is. Come back to your breath over and over again, without judgment or expectation.

When you’re ready, gently lift your gaze (if your eyes are closed, open them). Take a moment and notice any sounds in the environment. Notice how your body feels right now. Notice your thoughts and emotions.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 18:54:59 No.13629486 Report

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>>13629484
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrn3916

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 22:14:42 No.13630008 Report

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>>13629481
not him but how the fuck does losing time listening to your breathing helps?

i mean, its like anti intelligence, imagine someone who took 5 days and a team of 20 people to tie his shoelaces, its a similar waste of time

intelligecne and general goodnes quality of being better than others is doing the most amount of positive things universally liked in the least amount of time and effort

respiration is literalyl the literally easiest thing to automate, you can never know it exists and it works just the same, putting time specifically to just listening to something that works perfectly by itself is like, a whole new other level of delusion

like, what is the rationale here? you lose time in the worst way possible and suddenly you dont anymore?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Sep 2021 22:23:09 No.13630030 Report

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>>13630008
I don't know why exactly it works but it just does. It physically thickens the pre-frontal cortex while decreasing activity in lower order brain activity. Lots of well cited published studies echo this.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Sep 2021 00:18:29 No.13630381 Report

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>>13630030
so this is an uncontested turth of the universe like the law of gravity? Any specialist on neurology from a harvard tier college will agree and will have heard about the studies you quote? also have these been done by MANY institutes with harvard level prestige, all of these studies point to a strong univocal conclussion and theres no other explanation for their results,a nd theres no study of similar prestige that puts the efficacy of meditation into question???

because if thats not the case youre just shilling for this shit because the knowledge that you waste time listening to your breathing makes you rage too much and pass what is a very contested possible hipothesis with very weak support for an universal confirmed truth?

or are you just objectively ignorant on how the scientific method works which works in one set way thats not up to your personal snowflake interpretation?
probably both

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Anonymous Sun 12 Sep 2021 00:30:04 No.13630405 Report

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>>13630381
bro quit sperging out he posted the source, just click the damn link. that shit has 881 citations.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Sep 2021 00:36:58 No.13630428 Report

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>>13630008
>losing time
I'm not suggesting you meditate, but that's a fucking retarded viewpoint.

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Anonymous Sun 12 Sep 2021 01:22:33 No.13630540 Report

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>>13627355
It's simply a matter of focus.

Take physical fitness. You may want to exercise, but then excuses arise.
>"I don't feel like it"
>"I'm too tired"
>"I can just do it tomorrow"
Then you waste your time on 4chan and YouTube and later begin the cycle all over again.
Of course, this is not unique to exercise. It's universal.

You lose focus.
You give in to the excuses.
You simply live on autopilot and succumb to your whims.

The first step, like others have alluded, is awareness.
Practice being aware of your thoughts and feelings, and notice them as they arise.

>>13630008
>respiration is literalyl the literally easiest thing to automate, you can never know it exists and it works just the same
That's patently false. Your respiratory rate has direct physiological effects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Sep 2021 16:22:03 No.13632632 Report

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any other tips opinions? any other kinds of meditation or other practices for productivity? from a scientific point of view

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