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Nice vaccine bro.

Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 14:40:16 2021 No.13602577 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13602647 >>13602769

>Natural immunity from contracting coronavirus provided Israelis with longer-lasting protection against the Delta variant than two shots of the Pfizer vaccine given early this year, new Israeli research suggests.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210904104907/https://www.timesofisrael.com/study-covid-recovery-gave-israelis-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 14:56:47 No.13602627 Report

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they didn't listen

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 15:03:48 No.13602647 Report

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>>13602577
>But experts are stressing that the results shouldn’t be interpreted as discouragement from vaccinating. Immunologist Prof. Cyrille Cohen of Bar Ilan University, who was not involved in the study, told The Times of Israel: “Certain people who are not inclined to get vaccinated might be mistaken and think that this means you’d better get sick a priori and not get a vaccine. Such a thinking is medically wrong, and the results of the study do not mean that people should expose themselves on purpose and get sick.

Retarded or just brain dead?

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 15:09:17 No.13602669 Report

Quoted By: >>13602741 >>13603063 >>13603178 >>13603278

>>13602647
>the results of the study do not mean that people should expose themselves on purpose and get sick.
doesn't this depend on the risk for each person of contracting covid? there is a point where the if the rick of getting the virus is negligible you should get it, as you would get better inmunity that way

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 15:25:20 No.13602741 Report

Quoted By: >>13602781

>>13602669
>doesn't this depend on the risk for each person of contracting covid?
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 15:32:52 No.13602769 Report

Quoted By: >>13603313

>>13602577
then go get infected retard
most places that are giving out covid passports allow you to get one with just a positive pcr test, even without taking any vaccine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 15:36:18 No.13602781 Report

Quoted By: >>13602830

>>13602741
It does. It's sound logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 15:46:55 No.13602830 Report

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>>13602781
Anon it's simple. Vaccine=good, covid=really(scary)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 16:49:00 No.13603063 Report

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>>13602669
Yeah, it makes sense to calculate your personal risk level, but dying isn't the only outcome of serious illness, and the vaxes offer very strong (but not perfect) protection against serious illness. You should also factor in your risk of being hospitalized for treatment for an extended stay, your risk of having long-term bodily damage (many people who've recovered from a serious case have ongoing loss of bodily function), etc.
In Australia, our death counts for people in their 20s and 30s are literally in the single digits, but it seems every day on the news here they're reporting on some younger folks in ICU or younger folks who didn't have a case requiring hospitalization but can't taste or smell anything months after recovering, so if you trust the news, make what you will of that.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 17:26:29 No.13603178 Report

Quoted By: >>13603234 >>13603906 >>13604048 >>13606024

>>13602669
this is how the risk vs reward reasoning would go in the best case scenario (for example a fit, healthy man in his early 20s)

if you take the virus:
>0.1 chance of death
>0.2 chance of hospitalization and/or long term minor health issues
>good inmunity against getting the virus again

if you take the vaccine:
>0.00000001 chance of any long term health issue
>decent inmunity against getting the virus

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 17:38:26 No.13603234 Report

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>>13603178
remarkable how incredibly erroneous your statistics are

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 17:45:41 No.13603255 Report

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>>13603234
i made them up, the point was to show the difference in orders of magnitude but go ahead and give us the actual numbers if you want

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 17:53:06 No.13603278 Report

Quoted By: >>13606005

>>13602669
If you wouldn't get anything serious from the disease in the first place, why seek immunity? Just don't get it

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 18:04:52 No.13603313 Report

Quoted By: >>13603353

>>13602769
No the fuck they aren't lying scum

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 18:05:52 No.13603316 Report

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>>13603255
Consider suicide anon. You lied and you got caught in the act.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 18:17:57 No.13603353 Report

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>>13603313
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/coronavirus/eu-digital-covid-certificate/

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 19:12:53 No.13603567 Report

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>>13603316
Wrong, instead you should kys for twisting words.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 20:50:04 No.13603841 Report

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>>13603567
Nope you lied about the numbers to try to make your argument.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 21:04:09 No.13603881 Report

Quoted By: >>13603997 >>13604276

>>13603841
I didn't lie about anything I'm not that anon. Doesn't matter anyway your logic is retarded regardless of the numbers.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 21:17:08 No.13603906 Report

Quoted By: >>13605047 >>13605971

>>13603178
It's more like 0.00002 chance for the vaccine and 0.01 for the virus. Being flippant with people worried about this will get you nowhere.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 21:58:05 No.13603997 Report

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>>13603881
>Argument about comparing numbers
>actually, the numbers dont matter
Commit suicide tonight. I suggest the ol' ramming your head against a knife cemented to the wall

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 22:20:22 No.13604048 Report

Quoted By: >>13605035

>>13603178
Wrong by orders of magnitude

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Anonymous Sat 04 Sep 2021 23:50:33 No.13604276 Report

Quoted By: >>13605222

>>13603881
Dude you lied about the numbers to make your case more convincing.
That's like me saying that my company is recording a $20,000 net income, but then I say "but actually it's only $200". Big difference and it's considered lying and arguing in bad faith.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 05:12:24 No.13605035 Report

Quoted By: >>13605259 >>13606852

>>13604048
source?

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 05:16:54 No.13605047 Report

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>>13603906
Including 95% comorbidities, of which the average case in the US had 2.8

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 06:57:43 No.13605222 Report

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>>13604276
i wanted to make a point about the DIFFERENCE in order of magnitude

and you haven't corrected it so far, only called me a liar again and again. feel free to look up the actual numbers and share with us to prove me wrong

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 07:11:21 No.13605243 Report

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>>13605222
Kys tranny

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 07:25:51 No.13605259 Report

Quoted By: >>13605284 >>13606138

>>13605035
It's in the picture, you retard.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 07:35:19 No.13605284 Report

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>>13605259
yeah qcovid.com

go back to facebook faggot

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 12:18:37 No.13605971 Report

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>>13603906
>0.00002
>0.00000001
you think the difference between those numbers is relevant? i just made up the numbers to make the point that what matters is that there is a difference of several orders of magnitude between the risk that virus has vs the risk that the vaccine has

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 12:26:37 No.13606005 Report

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>>13603278
You get some of your rights back in a few places like the EU if you can show you have natural immunity. Other places like the US insist on you being injected no matter what, so it doesn't help you there.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 12:27:59 No.13606008 Report

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 12:35:09 No.13606024 Report

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>>13603178
The vaccine unironically kills about 1 in 2000-3000 people and causes really nasty problems for more people than that. Cope harder

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 13:32:52 No.13606138 Report

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>>13605259
Shitty ass source

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 13:43:56 No.13606156 Report

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>>13606024
you will never be a woman

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 13:50:30 No.13606171 Report

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>>13606024
Countries that have over 80% of the adult population vaccinated should then be seeing the worst healthcare crisis in history.

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Anonymous Sun 05 Sep 2021 18:23:12 No.13606852 Report

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>>13605035
>>13606138
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3731

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