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What happens to the brain in meditation

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 16:08:43 2021 No.13591367 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13591374 >>13591395 >>13593760 >>13593775 >>13594009

How is that practising some mental technique leads to actual whole body pleasure and release, not only that but subtler and subtler pleasure and release?

It is apparently also possible to get stuck on a basic level of this pleasure and atrophy your practice and mind in general as you become enamoured with it.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 16:10:42 No.13591374 Report

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>>13591367
you gain some control on autonomous functions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 16:11:59 No.13591381 Report

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Some traditions, such as Theravada Buddhism, have as their first stage in deep concentration practice to shift your attention from your primary object (breath?) to this feeling of what they call piti or rapture — this is how to enter the first jhana state. I'm not a teacher and your description isn't extremely detailed, so I can't say whether your experience is piti or something else. But it doesn't seem unlikely.

>"There is the case where a monk — quite withdrawn from sensuality, withdrawn from unskillful qualities — enters and remains in the first jhana: rapture and pleasure born from withdrawal, accompanied by directed thought and evaluation. He permeates and pervades, suffuses and fills this very body with the rapture and pleasure born from withdrawal. There is nothing of his entire body unpervaded by rapture and pleasure born from withdrawal.
>"Just as if a skilled bathman or bathman's apprentice would pour bath powder into a brass basin and knead it together, sprinkling it again and again with water, so that his ball of bath powder — saturated, moisture-laden, permeated within and without — would nevertheless not drip; even so, the monk permeates, suffuses and fills this very body with the rapture and pleasure born of withdrawal. There is nothing of his entire body unpervaded by rapture and pleasure born from withdrawal..."

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Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 16:15:20 No.13591391 Report

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kundalini awakening

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Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 16:16:27 No.13591395 Report

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>>13591367
Whatever it is, its related to how the brain controls context. Like why having a wank doesn't feel nearly as good as someone else doing it for you.

So like, meditation is just removing the context filter that exists as part of the reward center of the brain. Im guessing like some people can train themselves to bust a nut free hand, meditation fags are doing the same thing but they believe its a brain nut or something they're busting.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 04:11:32 No.13593760 Report

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>>13591367
>actual whole body pleasure and release,

Literally meditated a lot in my life and at no time was this ever the result. Sounds like you read some bullshit

Meditation activates regions of the brain in a specific pattern, this is called the Default Mode Network which is opposite the mode of Task Positive Network

Pretty self explainatory terms

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 04:16:33 No.13593775 Report

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>>13591367
if existence were verily disagreeable, we wouldn't fight so hard to stay alive

meditation is midwit tier >enjoying the flowers
as long as you're not suffering, you may not be full cognizant of it but you're happy to be alive

they've just taken the joy of life that you're supposed to get from evolving and stagnating with purposeless thought or unthought

not as degenerate as getting high but not on the level of actualising anything. thinking to think not thinking to achieve

i can accept some of the bodily functions benefiting but the reality is that you could have meditate on that ability alone (withstand the cold, relieve stress, take a shit) without classifying it as galaxybrain activity

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 04:35:23 No.13593812 Report

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>>13593775
You neurotwit.

The DMN is a nexus of incredible activity. Your brain model, of the tiny man in a control box, is outdated.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 04:39:33 No.13593819 Report

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What does it mean if you have mild tortuous veins when your optometrist looks in your eyes

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 05:22:26 No.13593898 Report

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>>13593760
That only applies to mindfulness meditation retard

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 05:34:11 No.13593917 Report

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>>13593775
>>13593898
>The importance of these networks has been discovered during the last two decades, with several interesting findings, such as brain energy consumption at rest. It has been reported that, in an average adult human, the intrinsic activity of the brain at rest represents 20% of all energy consumed, much more than other fundamental organs, such as the heart or liver [29].

I can't get over how fucking stupid you people are. Do you ever read books?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 06:39:47 No.13594009 Report

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>>13591367
Big fuckin rat boi lmao

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 07:38:06 No.13594094 Report

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>>13593760
>Literally meditated a lot in my life and at no time was this ever the result.
It was for me after 3 months of meditation. Unbearable bodily bliss for few minutes. I had troible sleeping afterwards due to my mind being too alert and lucid.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:02:28 No.13594133 Report

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>>13593760
OP here. I do meditation and have experienced it myself. You suck at meditation.

And modern science sucks at addressing meditation it seems. They confuse basic terminology and don't understand that there are different types. Brain network concept is interesting but infantile, inferior to the ancient descriptions already present (because they are experiential-based and easier to regulate), and does not really address the topic. I was looking for any explanation of meditation modern science has produced, specifically for an explanation of the progressive pleasure and release that marks advancement in it.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:05:18 No.13594140 Report

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>>13594133
you know a good resource to get started with meditation, op-sama?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:17:45 No.13594160 Report

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>>13591374
>you gain some control on autonomous functions
how is this possible in a deterministic world

Btw this is my experience: when I suffer instead o running away from suffering I became one with it, somehow accepting it.
Also I get into a super assertiv-observer-conscious state observing (without getting involved with emotions every action, tought, state of time every istance of time almost like it'd go to 0
The consequence of this is a sudden incredible release of pleasure, it's not the pleasure of a drug which is somejow fake, it feels like really well being

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:20:48 No.13594168 Report

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>>13594160
>>13591374
>you gain some control on autonomous functions
how is this possible in a deterministic world

Btw this is my experience: when I suffer instead o running away from suffering I became one with it, somehow accepting it.
Also I get into a super assertiv-observer-conscious state observing (without getting involved with emotions) every action, tought, state of time every istance of time almost like it'd go to 0
The consequence of this is a sudden incredible release of pleasure, it's not the pleasure of a drug which is somehow fake, it feels like really well being

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:21:56 No.13594172 Report

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>>13591374
>you gain some control on autonomous functions
how is this possible in a deterministic world

Btw this is my experience: when I suffer instead o running away from suffering I became one with it, somehow accepting it.
Also I get into a super assertiv-observer-conscious state observing (without getting involved with emotions) every action, tought, state of time every istance of time almost like it'd go to 0
The consequence of this is a sudden incredible release of pleasure, it's not the pleasure of a drug which is somehow fake, it feels like really well being

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:25:10 No.13594180 Report

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>>13591374
>you gain some control on autonomous functions
how is this possible in a deterministic world?

Btw this is my experience: when I suffer instead o running away from suffering I became one with it, somehow accepting it.
Also I get into a super assertiv-observer-conscious state observing (without getting involved with emotions) every action, tought, state of time every istance of time almost like it'd go to 0
The consequence of this is a sudden incredible release of pleasure, it's not the pleasure of a drug which is somehow fake, it feels like really well being

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:31:53 No.13594197 Report

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>>13594009

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 08:40:56 No.13594213 Report

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>>13594133
How do you meditate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 10:15:19 No.13594345 Report

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>>13593760
different anon here, I meditate too and I've felt pleasurable sensations from it.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 14:29:02 No.13594860 Report

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Bump for interest.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Sep 2021 15:07:21 No.13594962 Report

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>>13594140
>>13594213
Not Op, but I use The Mind Illuminated and had extremely blissful experiences with partial withdrawal from the senses e.g. tunnel and shattered-mirror-like vision, tinnitus with normal hearing on lower volume.

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