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Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 23:25:03 2021 No.13588115 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13588124 >>13588125 >>13588128 >>13588234 >>13588522 >>13590001 >>13590011 >>13590926 >>13590966

What is mass?
>Mass is anything that has matter and takes up space
What is matter?
>Matter is a measurement of mass

Why the fuck do scientists use circular reasoning?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 23:26:22 No.13588124 Report

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>>13588115
100% pure altruism and curiosity

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 23:26:49 No.13588125 Report

Quoted By: >>13590931

>>13588115

They don't know what mass is and they don't know what part of the fabric of nature it is that confers mass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 23:27:12 No.13588128 Report

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>>13588115
those who matter don't mind
those who mind don't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 23:28:25 No.13588133 Report

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>pulls definitions out of hat
>engineers circular reasoning
>all of science must be wrong because of this

Yes, these three /pol/ schizos are really that retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 23:55:27 No.13588234 Report

Quoted By: >>13588239 >>13588494

>>13588115

Because they fear realising science needs philosophy, particularly metaphysics

"Their reasoning was that in every change there must be something that persists. In agreement on this basic principle, Aristotle proposed that no change in an object can be so radical as to eradicate everything that existed before the change and produce something entirely new. He proposed that some unchanging principle must be maintained throughout any process of change — something that does not change during the process-of-change itself — and concluded that it was this radical principle that his predecessors, while unconsciously searching for, were unable to fully glean. This principle was dubbed matter (Gk. hylê; Lat. materia: wood, timber): A principle out of which something can be made — as in how “wood” stands to things like chairs, tables, and shelves. Matter is a necessary principle for the reason that to deny its being at work is to assume that each time an object undergoes a change of some kind, the original object disappears into nothing whilst a new object springs up entirely from nothing."

https://philos-sophia.org/vertical-causation-matter-form/

https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2011/02/why-are-some-physicists-so-bad-at.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Aug 2021 23:56:45 No.13588239 Report

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>>13588234
Philosophy is cringe-tier circlejerking. Y'all need King Crocoduck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWZXuozoeFk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 01:01:07 No.13588474 Report

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>>13588239

thanks, I will use this definition when explaining the scientific community

you can't even reason the value of science without philosophy, bitch

>oldest form of dialetic knowledge

>you need a youtuber who can't even graps the difference between animal-nature interactions and scientific models of reality

that's a whole new level of dumbness right there

fucking philodoxes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 01:05:09 No.13588488 Report

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Matter is made by the demiurge to trap meaning in emptiness. That pretty much is exactly what the construct is. Meaning is of course a part of the soul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 01:06:35 No.13588494 Report

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>>13588234
What he describes is the soul not matter. The soul is what does not change not in that way.

El Arcón

El Arcón Wed 01 Sep 2021 01:07:03 No.13588495 Report

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Mass is a property of objects which exhibit inertia or gravitation. (It is thought that any inertial mass is also a gravitational mass.) Matter is a distribution of mass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 01:14:01 No.13588522 Report

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>>13588115
Look up aether theory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 08:55:45 No.13590001 Report

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>>13588115
>Mass is anything that has matter and takes up space
ok retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 08:59:25 No.13590011 Report

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>>13588115
Mass is a property of spacetime and has natural dimensions of length and time. Just a field divergence like every other "charge".
http://www.jowsey.org/physics/Dimensions.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 09:26:29 No.13590120 Report

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force makes mass accelerate

mass is resistivity for acceleration due force

than you faggot newton circlogic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 14:04:12 No.13590905 Report

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>>13588239
>Philosophy is cringe-tier circlejerking.
Unbelievably based. Phylosophy worked for the ancient Greeks, who didn't have the instruments and cumulative knowledge to properly study the natural sciences.
Metaphysics is /x/ tier and honestly discussing it should be a bannable offense on this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 14:07:36 No.13590916 Report

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matter and mass are the same thing they are the product of warped fields
particles do not exist, they are detection events
only the fields exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 14:11:27 No.13590926 Report

Quoted By: >>13591439 >>13591631

>>13588115
Wrong. Mass is defined as resistance to change in motion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 14:11:54 No.13590931 Report

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>>13588125
> didn't explain shit
> cries about muh /pol/ schizos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 14:23:46 No.13590966 Report

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>>13588115
What is mass?
Baby don't hurt me.
Don't hurt me.
No more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 16:31:48 No.13591439 Report

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>>13590926
Then what is force?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 16:41:01 No.13591468 Report

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>>13591439
Mathematical tool to analyze motion. You don't need forces to do it, and can just as easily derive equations of motion using the Lagrangian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 17:39:17 No.13591631 Report

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>>13590926
that is inertia retard
> yes this object has 3 kg resistance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 17:41:55 No.13591640 Report

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>>13588239
>Y'all
Is there anything cringier than Twattertards LARPing as southerners?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 17:47:42 No.13591660 Report

Quoted By: >>13591679 >>13591761

>>13591468
No, what is the definition of force?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 17:52:14 No.13591679 Report

Quoted By: >>13591693

>>13591660
Force is what causes acceleration
Mass is the proportionality constant between force and acceleration.
Acceleration is change in velocity over time.
Velocity is change in distance over time.

Newton's second law is the old philosophical idea of a "great cause must necessarily have a great effect" put into more coherent and restricted form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 17:57:52 No.13591693 Report

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>>13591679
its actually displacement over time sweetheart

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 18:04:29 No.13591713 Report

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>>13591640
They appropriated my culture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 18:14:22 No.13591734 Report

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> Work is change in energy
> Energy is the ability to do work
Wow Phiziks is so cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Sep 2021 18:23:26 No.13591761 Report

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>>13591660
You don't need forces to do classical mechanics. The Lagrangian is more fundamental and can derive all the laws of motion.

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