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Just got Sanofi clinical trial vax AMA

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 03:44:05 2021 No.13558410 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13558461 >>13558500 >>13558715 >>13559176

Protein subunit based Vax identical to Novavax.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 03:44:37 No.13558415 Report

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 03:50:03 No.13558450 Report

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French aren't white

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 03:51:42 No.13558461 Report

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>>13558410
What's the advantage of this vaccine compared to others?

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 03:52:52 No.13558468 Report

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that picture is so fucking embarrassing.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 03:54:49 No.13558479 Report

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>>13558461
Rather than have the spike protein be manufactured in the body which causes a bunch of side effects we know about and more down the track, this manufactures the spikes outside the body, purifies them and injects them. Subunit protein vaccines are the safest type of vaccine.
Also proteins can be stored at near room temperature rather than -80 Celcius

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 03:59:50 No.13558500 Report

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>>13558410
Do you have to travel to India to go lick doorknobs and ask people to sneeze in your face after getting the vax to prove it's effectiveness

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:02:17 No.13558512 Report

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>>13558479
So none of anyone’s concerns about the mrna messing with your body’s chemistry?

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:03:50 No.13558519 Report

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>>13558512
No blood clots like the J and J or AsstraClotica vax either, no bill gates microchips like the mRNA junk

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:12:17 No.13558553 Report

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>>13558479
>which causes a bunch of side effects we know about and more down the track
[citation needed]

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:23:44 No.13558601 Report

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>>13558553
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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:27:05 No.13558615 Report

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Aren't spike proteins cytotoxic?

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:32:28 No.13558630 Report

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>>13558479
Enjoy your Guillain-Barre Syndrome

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:33:53 No.13558643 Report

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>>13558553
Blood clots and myocarditis are the primary ones, sure you can make the argument that acute side effects from the Vax are a lower percentage than covid risks but the side effects DO exist, and that's assuming our data is being correctly collected and reported which I guarantee you it isn't. Although yes the acute reactions to the vaccine with the REAL data is probably lower than covid, but we have ZERO data on long term effects. And before you say they won't, we DON'T KNOW. That's why they got special legal immunity from every government which rolled them out. According to their in own biodistribution data, yes most of the Vax stays intramuscular but a small but non zero percentage leaks and the liposomes the mRNA is housed in isn't specific to JUST myocytes so some tissues down stream accumulate much higher local concentrations than just a average concentration of leaked vaccine, we have done ZERO studies on the cytotoxic thresholds of all those tissues and ZERO data on the clearance rates of spike proteins from those specific tissues, especially for people whose clearance mechanisms aren't working as well as the normal person, so it absolutely could be the case that one or two shots of mRNA vax might not have any long term effects but after 3-4 booster shots a year for multiple years (potentially, cuz we haven't done the studies) some potentially large percentage of again potentially large demographics might develop long term effects, imagine if after 3 years of consistent vaccination 10% of women with PCOS Became infertile because of the accumulation of spike proteins in ovaries to a cytotoxic threshold causing inflammation and fibrosis. Those women would have zero compensation or legal recourse. mRNA vaccines are a band-aid solution which need to be phased out ASAP and replaced with more traditional vaccines and then we can assess the safety of them in a wide and diverse range of demographics and get a nofault vaccine injury fund set up

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:37:10 No.13558662 Report

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>>13558643
>>13558553

10% of PCOS women would be 2 million women in the us being made infertile BTW, again hypothetical but absolutely possible

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:43:03 No.13558691 Report

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>>13558630
How would getting this particular recombinant protein vaccine be any different from getting the coronavirus? Spike proteins on the virus will interact with your cells regardless, and with the way things are going you should be resigned to the fact you're going to get it at some point. Are you concerned about the adjuvant or something?

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:49:53 No.13558714 Report

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>>13558643
Blood clots are at a lower risk than the general population. The only reason they're associated with the vaccine is because they're immune-mediated.

The problem with the "we don't know about LONG term effects!" is that we're talking at this point about zero adverse effects beyond what we've already seen all the way up to a year. For a vaccine that's in the body for a couple days. There is no plausible mechanism for anything else happening at this point. It's all based on this weird hypothesis that there's somehow tissue buildup of one of the most unstable biomolecules known to man, or that out of all the proteins made every day this one single one happens to be the only one known to not be cleared over the course of an entire fucking year.

And the kicker is that isn't not even a reason not to get vaccinated. If it were even plausible, it'd be a reason to avoid spike proteins - because viremia is common in infection, and with subunit vaccines those antigens have to get to lymphatic germinal centers somehow, and they don't just teleport there.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:50:08 No.13558715 Report

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>>13558410
don't care to ask anything of a hylic incapable of sensing their mineral inbalances

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 04:58:55 No.13558749 Report

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>>13558714
It's not about the mRNA idiot, it's about the spike proteins that that mRNA produces in those tissues , and spike proteins can last a LONG time . And spike protein's aren't naturally made in humans bro and aren't cleared out as well as regular human proteins this is KNOWN. You're completely misunderstanding my point or deliberating misinterpreting it, it's not a weird hypothesis at all

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 05:00:09 No.13558752 Report

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>>13558714
Also not every protein is cleared every year lmfao

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 05:01:30 No.13558761 Report

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>>13558714
The subunits don't travel to the lymphatic system idiot lmfao, go back to first year immunology lmfao

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 05:56:17 No.13558891 Report

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>>13558662
What? No it isn't possible you fucking pol moron

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 06:00:01 No.13558899 Report

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>>13558749
>>13558752
>>13558761
Watch out guys, we've got a sub 100 right here in the flesh.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 06:35:34 No.13559007 Report

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>get chink-made virus
>get chink-made vaccine

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 09:05:29 No.13559176 Report

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>>13558410
How safe do you believe it is compared to mRNA or Viral Vector tech?

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