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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 00:43:36 2021 No.13538328 View Reply Original Report

I'm starting to realize just how useful IQ is at scale. Look at what China can achieve with just a slightly higher average IQ than America. If I'm right, this is very good news for humanity. It means we could unlock a VASTLY more impressive civilization even with very mild embryo selection for IQ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH-ZrSgHml0&ab_channel=WalkEast

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 00:47:12 No.13538338 Report

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>>13538328
Strive to achieve.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 00:48:01 No.13538339 Report

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>>13538328
China was a poor shithole for a long time, it only become richer due to economic trade with the U.S. starting in the 1970s

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:13:54 No.13538405 Report

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>>13538328
>Skyscrapers and neon lights!
5000 years history just to ape 1950s western society?
What does the same perspective look like during daylight hours?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:16:19 No.13538411 Report

Quoted By: >>13538529

>>13538328
Didn't know that the impressiveness of a civilization was based off of how many LEDs they can slap on a skyscraper.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:19:07 No.13538416 Report

Quoted By: >>13538445 >>13538467 >>13550550

>>13538339
So does this mean that China's capacity for technological advancement is solely reliant upon the West?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:28:40 No.13538445 Report

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>>13538416
Considering they're human Xerox machines, yes.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:30:01 No.13538451 Report

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>>13538328
Altruism is arguably more important than IQ on large scales. It doesn't matter how smart your people are if they spend all their intellectual efforts undermining each other.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:31:27 No.13538459 Report

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>>13538328
how many Jews are in positions of power in China?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:31:55 No.13538462 Report

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>>13538328
That's ridiculous.
High enough IQ to copy what some stupid people did first.
High enough to prove you can
Not high enough to know you probably shouldn't
Only a moron would believe extravagant waste and pointless growth like in pic rel in a world of non-renewable resources is a good idea.

t. smarter than you

But I see your point. A tiny drop in average IQ is probably enough to cause an all out collapse.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:34:40 No.13538467 Report

Quoted By: >>13538533 >>13538578

>>13538328
>embryo selection for IQ.
Steve Hsu might be of interest to you
https://infoproc.blogspot.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-lb21h42fk

>>13538416
>>13538445
Yeah, IQ is important for generating wealth, but there are definitely other traits which have more impact on research and discovery. Even though East Asians have significantly higher average IQ (and population) than Europeans, they still severely lag the West in research output.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 01:38:30 No.13538479 Report

Quoted By: >>13538525 >>13540155

Bullshit, and you know it.
Money, power and social skills are way more important than intelligence.
M
>Inb4 muh 90 IQ

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:00:57 No.13538525 Report

Quoted By: >>13540151 >>13555841

>>13538479

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:01:26 No.13538528 Report

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>>13538328
I cannot see there anything I didn't see in some Las Vegas about twenty years ago.
And as for their social polities, that is not the future I'd rather live. Remove commies and we talk.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:01:58 No.13538529 Report

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>>13538411
That's not what's impressive. What's impressive is how pleasant, clean, orderly, beautiful, and peaceful their city life is.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:03:32 No.13538533 Report

Quoted By: >>13538596

>>13538467
>significantly higher average IQ (and population) than Europeans,
This isn't true. The difference between European and East Asian IQ is a couple of points. Some European countries have higher average IQ than most Asian countries (e.g. Italians have an average IQ about 104, only lower than Japan with an average IQ 105).

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:03:52 No.13538534 Report

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>>13538328
>he judges a city by its nightlife/center/tourist/business districts
You are realizing how useful IQ is, but sadly you suffer from quite a low IQ yourself. Go look at how China looks beside these ultra rich areas in the big cities.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:07:14 No.13538540 Report

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>>13538529
t. Has NEVER been to China, ahaha.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:20:10 No.13538578 Report

Quoted By: >>13538588 >>13538614 >>13538723 >>13540249

>>13538328
You are completely right OP.
Proper usage of eugenics could give us an utopia. We could gradually uplift every race to a high standard of intelligence. Racial tensions would disappear. Poverty, crime, and other social ills could be gradually solved. The quality of democracy would improve.

Sadly, Western liberalism is hellbent on denying the genetic causes of intelligence and the importance of eugenics and population control, even as the planet is on the verge of collapse.

>>13538339
China was held back by communism until Deng's free market reforms in the 1970s-1990s.

>>13538467
>they still severely lag the West in research output
False. See pic.

>>13538451
Altruism is highly correlated with high IQ, is not an either/or choice.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:20:41 No.13538580 Report

Quoted By: >>13538723

>>13538451
Altruism is not same as reciprocity, the former does not get anything in return. The latter means symbiosis and a give-take relationship. Empathy is what to strive for and higher IQ people are more likely to be empathic.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:23:02 No.13538588 Report

Quoted By: >>13538606

>>13538578
>pic
They have >4X the population; their research output is not in proportion with that.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:24:40 No.13538596 Report

Quoted By: >>13538634

>>13538533
>a couple of points
China alone is 5 points higher than the UK (decent approximation of European average) with multiple times the population.

I'll let you figure out how many multiples more people with an IQ >145 they have based on that :)

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:26:27 No.13538606 Report

Quoted By: >>13538687 >>13539625

>>13538588
1. The original claim has been refuted, you sre moving the goalposts.

2. China is still a developing country, their research output is impressive for their level of wealth. (GDP per capita)

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:28:12 No.13538614 Report

Quoted By: >>13538650 >>13538662

>>13538578
>False. See pic.
a) This means absolutely nothing in terms of actual scientific impact.
b) China is notorious for fraudulent scientific publications.

How many Chinese Nobel laureates are there again?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:33:59 No.13538634 Report

Quoted By: >>13550411

>>13538596
Actually I'm a psychologist, I'm well aware of these scores.
Chinese scores are calculated from computerised tests they administer with no supervision in hospitals and only in the main cities. It's a considerable overestimation.
When looking at the European population in general, the variation is similar to the Asian population, with the highest scores similar to the highest Asian averages and the low scores similar to the lowest Asian scores. The racial IQ gap between whites and Asians is tiny.
It's also due to recent pressures downwards on European IQ together with increase in Asian IQ. In the future you'll actually see a decrease in Asian IQ as well.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:34:47 No.13538641 Report

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>>13538328
>be high IQ
>use it to steal designs from people with lower IQ
BRILLIANT

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:37:47 No.13538650 Report

Quoted By: >>13538668

>>13538614
>a) This means absolutely nothing in terms of actual scientific impact.
I take it you haven't been keeping up with recent Chinese research, for instance in areas like quantum computing, fusion power, genetics, engineering and other fields.

They've just beat Google's most powerful quantum computer.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2282961-china-beats-google-to-claim-the-worlds-most-powerful-quantum-computer/

>b) China is notorious for fraudulent scientific publications.
Cope

Also, the original claim was about "Asians not being able to innovate", surely Japan has a lot of scientific achievements on its belt as well.

>How many Chinese Nobel laureates are there again?
Irrelevant, the West has outperformed everybody else for most of the Nobel prize's existence due to being the first to industrialize. Only in the past 40 years East Asian countries have started to become a major world players again.

It's also political as fuck.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:40:38 No.13538662 Report

Quoted By: >>13538667

>>13538614
>a) This means absolutely nothing in terms of actual scientific impact.
I take it you haven't been keeping up with recent Chinese research, for instance in areas like quantum computing, fusion power, genetics, engineering and other fields.

They've just beaten Google's most powerful quantum computer.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2282961-china-beats-google-to-claim-the-worlds-most-powerful-quantum-computer/

>b) China is notorious for fraudulent scientific publications.
Cope

Also, the original claim was about "Asians not being able to innovate", surely Japan has a lot of scientific achievements on its belt as well?

>How many Chinese Nobel laureates are there again?
Irrelevant, the West has outperformed everybody else for most of the Nobel prize's existence due to being the first to industrialize. Only in the past 40 years have East Asian countries started to become major world players again.

It's also political as fuck.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:41:29 No.13538667 Report

Quoted By: >>13538677 >>13538680 >>13538731

>>13538662
>Irrelevant, the West has outperformed everybody else for most of the Nobel prize's existence due to being the first to industrialize.
So why wasn't Asia the first if they're so much smarter?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:41:41 No.13538668 Report

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>>13538650
everyone claiming to have a quantum computer is a lying faggot. this includes jewgle and china

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:45:28 No.13538677 Report

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>>13538667
uhh
purely economic factors

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:47:11 No.13538680 Report

Quoted By: >>13538720 >>13538754

>>13538667
Because industrialization appeared in the West, as I said? Sometimes certain discoveries are such a leap that it can have a seismic effect on a country's rate of progress. The commercial adaptation of the steam engine was such a discovery.

China also cucked itself by its self-imposed isolation, whereas Japan with the Meiji restoration was able to modernize and industrialize much earlier.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:49:01 No.13538687 Report

Quoted By: >>13538692

>>13538606
1. I didn’t make the original claim.
2. And whose fault is that? You had 10,000+ years bro.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:51:02 No.13538692 Report

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>>13538687
China was the dominant world power for much of those 10,000 years bro.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 02:59:28 No.13538720 Report

Quoted By: >>13538732

>>13538680
so why did industrialization happen in the West again?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:01:00 No.13538723 Report

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>>13538578
>Altruism is highly correlated with high IQ, is not an either/or choice.
It's not an either or, but it's possible to have populations under or over-represented altruism given their IQ.

>>13538580
Reciprocity on an institutional scale is extremely difficult. You need the people to have a general feeling of borderline naive trust in strangers in order to grease the wheels of civilization to progress like it did in North-Western Europe.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:02:15 No.13538729 Report

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>>13538692
And yet

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:03:17 No.13538731 Report

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>>13538667
>>13538451

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:03:38 No.13538732 Report

Quoted By: >>13538744

>>13538720
For the same reason the compass happened in China. Someone came up with it and its uses became apparent to the society of the time

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:08:36 No.13538744 Report

Quoted By: >>13547220 >>13547234 >>13547257

>>13538732
hmm

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:09:49 No.13538751 Report

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>>13538692
>world power for 10,000 years
A world power before globalisation. What an achievement. Especially considering they couldn't even handle pirates.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:10:55 No.13538754 Report

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>>13538680
>Because industrialization appeared in the West, as I said?
So why did the west invent the steam engine first in Rome and then again in England while Asia lagged at best hundreds of years behind?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:15:30 No.13538769 Report

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basically this:
https://www.unz.com/jman/zigzag-lightning/

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:16:08 No.13538772 Report

Quoted By: >>13538792 >>13548746

>>13538328
china has a few things going for it aside from iq. they have strong familial structure, are pro-order, and are violently anti-degenerate. therefore chinese kids grow up to be productive and make good use of their iq in building their civilization. unlike in the west which is pro-degeneracy, anti-order and anti-family so kids grow up to be useless degenerates. china is the future. the west is finished and that's a good thing. the western corporatist hellscape should not exist for the good of mankind in minecraft.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:18:31 No.13538785 Report

Quoted By: >>13538913

>>13538451
altruism can be incredibly pathological which ends up in worse results like seen in the west which is in a state of decay because of it.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:20:25 No.13538792 Report

Quoted By: >>13538803

>>13538772
People are ugly, when you're alone.
I'm pretty sure there are uglier freaks in all the other places. Or are you trying to say that only the West are humans? Even though they're brutally weird, they're dressed very well.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:20:44 No.13538793 Report

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https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/big-summary-post-on-the-hajnal-line/

>bipartite manorialism, in which tenant farmers would work for (later pay rent to) the head of a manor but also farm for themselves, operated as a sort-of franchise system in which the tenants on their individual farms had to make it or break it independently (i.e. without support from an extended family/clan, the dumber members of which would no longer be a drag on our independent farmers). there was, no doubt, cooperation between the tenant farmers which, once the outbreeding reduced the selection for nepotistic altruism, could’ve resulted in the selection for a more general, reciprocal altruism. but bipartite manorialism, i think, would’ve also selected for other traits like a propensity to be hard working, delayed gratification, and inventiveness: those individuals who came up with new ideas for improving their farming (or related) techniques could’ve bettered their place on the manor and been more successful reproductively.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:23:23 No.13538803 Report

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>>13538792
i've been all around the world, the most extreme degeneracy i have seen has always been in the west. you will not find uglier freaks anywhere in the world worse than the west where not only are they protected but celebrated. if you ask me the western mindset is what is subhuman more than anything.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:30:49 No.13538812 Report

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>>13538803
The ones on your picture are trying hard to look that bad, and there are few of those. In some shitholes you probably pussied out to visit some much uglier (and much more dangerous) freaks are everywhere. And the more eastern shitholes you visited, there you just didn't recognize what is going on in their souls and guts beneath all that superficial decency.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:42:42 No.13538851 Report

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>>13538812
>and there are few of those.
not really, go downtown to any western city and there is no end in sight of freaks.

>In some shitholes you probably pussied out to visit some much uglier (and much more dangerous) freaks are everywhere.
sure maybe, but that really shows how low the standards are in the west. "hey at least we're not as bad as the absolute worst examples". the fact is the west is a disgusting freak show of degeneracy.

>all that superficial decency.
at least those places understand that shit isn't meant to be celebrated but something to be ashamed of.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:48:29 No.13538863 Report

Quoted By: >>13538871

>>13538851
>go downtown to any western city and there is no end in sight of freaks.
Well, they just temporarily allowed all sorts of uggos from around the world to visit them. But westerners themselves are the most normal.
Surely they have their fair share of crazies, but those crazies usually do not bite.
> sure maybe, but that really shows how low the standards are in the west. "hey at least we're not as bad as the absolute worst examples".
Nobody compares themselves to those retarded shitskins, but if you badmoth the best nations you demand me to advice you to look into the mirror, you look like shit, and all you feel is hatered, which is gross.
> the fact is the west is a disgusting freak show of degeneracy.
Nope, it's not a fact, but you biased envious commie faggot jewish demoralization propaganda
> at least those places understand that shit isn't meant to be celebrated but something to be ashamed of.
Here's where you're especially wrong, kiddo.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 03:55:06 No.13538871 Report

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>>13538863
>But westerners themselves are the most normal.
lmao not even close. there is nothing normal about this kind of permissiveness and support for degeneracy. pic related, a typical western family now.
>Surely they have their fair share of crazies, but those crazies usually do not bite.
western cities were set ablaze for months last year by degenerate crazies and the news covered for them to do so.
>but if you badmoth the best nations
the west aren't the best nations anymore. you're turning a blind eye to the decay, typically normalcy bias.
>commie faggot jewish demoralization propaganda
the us govt won't even call out what's going on in cuba as an uprising over commieshit. the west is commie degenerates.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:09:21 No.13538902 Report

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>>13538871
> dat picture
> white people keep on reproducing is somehow a bad thing.
Why are you so triggered by rainbows? Rainbow is a funny pattern and gay means happy, don't allow faggots take it out from you. But chances are you're some dress wearing muzzo who prefers his women dressed up in black trashbags.
> the west aren't the best nations anymore.
So entertain me. Who are the best nations now?
> you're turning a blind eye to the decay, typically normalcy bias.
Because I'm not a coprophile to focus on some shit when I prefer to compare the best examples from every culture.
> the us govt won't even call out what's going on in cuba as an uprising over commieshit. the west is commie degenerates.
Every government is commie degenerates. And because of the ideals of free market, liberty and independence the western governments are kept in check the most (not enough, but more than in the other countries where people are totally oppressed)

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:17:16 No.13538913 Report

Quoted By: >>13538941

>>13538785
Is it? Still better than anywhere else. It's related to why the west got so rich in the first place.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:25:38 No.13538937 Report

Quoted By: >>13538948

>>13538902
>Why are you so triggered by rainbows?
there is nothing wrong with rainbows but that flag represents the west's downfall. much like rome fell from its decadence, so too will the west.
>But chances are you're some dress wearing muzzo who prefers his women dressed up in black trashbags.
nope, i'm just not a brainwashed westerner who cannot see the writing on the wall. i don't believe in skywizard fairytales but if i had to pick, that is better than the worship of degeneracy in the west.
>Who are the best nations now?
the ones that aren't doomed to collapse. so not the west.
>Because I'm not a coprophile to focus on some shit when I prefer to compare the best examples from every culture.
if you don't look at the deficits and just look at what is best you fail to see how things unravel.
> And because of the ideals of free market, liberty and independence the western governments are kept in check the most
this is a perfect illustration, the west has been routinely shitting all over all this and using their defense of degeneracy as an excuse. you can't even call out the degeneracy without being made into a heretic. there is heavy regulation that fucks over entrepreneurship while favoring megacorporations. the west is actually only free in so far that you can be a degenerate, it is not free in any meaningful constructive sense. personally i'd rather live in a society that regulates its degenerates if all else is equal.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:27:05 No.13538941 Report

Quoted By: >>13538967

>>13538913
nope and it won't stay rich because of it. the west got so rich because it had the right amount of altruism, it wasn't pathological as it is now.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:30:17 No.13538945 Report

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:34:46 No.13538948 Report

Quoted By: >>13538953 >>13538968

>>13538937
So you're just a chinese shill. You can fuck off, I used to be a soviet citizen and I see through your phoney propaganda. Also you gdp per capita is at the level of modern day Russia, which is shit. You're coveyor workers who dream that they're the ones who produce the wealth of the world, you're nothing but ants, cucked up by your supreme leaders brainwashed by the most retarded of all modern ideologies (yep, it would be better for y'all if they all were some cross-dressers than delusional butchers they are. Simply because murder is worse than buttsex)
> the ones that aren't doomed to collapse.
You cannot fall when you lay on the ground (so you think untill the floor starts crumbling under you) while the human civilization had its ups and downs, but keep on striving forward because of the whites, while the rest of you faggots can only repeat at best (most of y'all just observe or even disregard it not even getting what it's all about)

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:36:31 No.13538953 Report

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>>13538945
don't do it, you retard.
Here's the response: >>13538948

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:42:11 No.13538967 Report

Quoted By: >>13538983

>>13538941
Are you sure about that? Iterated prisoner's dilemma creates excess wealth locally wherever people decide to cooperate more than defect. But it takes blind faith in some "greater good" to emphatically follow.

The suspicion that you think is required to protect and preserve wealth is also something that destroys it. Ask yourself why Eastern Europe seems the most "based" and least receptive to that degree of altruism, but is also much poorer.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:42:23 No.13538968 Report

Quoted By: >>13538989

>>13538948
>because of the whites
you mean the group of people that the west has labelled the greatest evil? you may want to rethink your alliances.

oh and
>y'all
back2r*ddit

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:47:47 No.13538979 Report

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>>13538529
>What's impressive is how pleasant, clean, orderly, beautiful, and peaceful
>China
excuse me while I die of laughter

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:50:10 No.13538983 Report

Quoted By: >>13539546

>>13538967
>Are you sure about that? Iterated prisoner's dilemma creates excess wealth locally wherever people decide to cooperate more than defect. But it takes blind faith in some "greater good" to emphatically follow.
again, like with all things too much is not good. and cooperation is not the same as altruism, unless you mean reciprocal which is different from the pathological variety where the outcome is worse. and the prisoner's dilemma is too simple of a model to use for this. but even here you need to know when to defect as there are cases where not defecting is at an expense.

>The suspicion that you think is required to protect and preserve wealth is also something that destroys it.
it can if misapplied, but it is necessary also to not get fucked over. the west is in a state of deficit now and overburdened by poor deals. the point is you need a good amount of altruism and suspicion.
https://www.pnas.org/content/110/Supplement_2/10408#:~:text=Pathological%20altruism%20can%20be%20conceived,would%20conclude%20was%20reasonably%20foreseeable.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:52:32 No.13538989 Report

Quoted By: >>13538998

>>13538968
>you mean the group of people that the west has labelled the greatest evil?
So THAT is who you're calling the WEST?
They're indeed to the west from you chinks, and because you eyeliners call all the whities bignosed, you distinguish between us less than we can tell chinese from a korean. So that mickael moore is a disgusting kike. And they're the most homosexual group of people, but that has to do with the Western civilization not more than worms in the guts of your poorly fed population to the great chinese arts.
> back2r*ddit
What an irony coming from someone who just used reddit spacing. Y'all is a little dialectal, but a normal english way to denote a plural form of you (not you personally, but all of you)

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 04:56:04 No.13538998 Report

Quoted By: >>13539012

>>13538989
>So THAT is who you're calling the WEST?
is america not the west?
>What an irony coming from someone who just used reddit spacing
just speaking in your syntax, "y'all".

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 05:00:44 No.13539012 Report

Quoted By: >>13539031

>>13538998
>is america not the west?
America is the west of the west. And though they're seriously infested by the jewish conspirators, so are the rest of us. They are waking up to tha factt. Are you?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 05:06:31 No.13539031 Report

Quoted By: >>13539037 >>13539049 >>13540858

>>13539012
i'm not chinese, i just prefer china to the west as it is a pro-order, anti-degeneracy, high-iq society with strong familial structures. ideally i'd like something like pinochet's chile which had a freer market.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 05:07:32 No.13539037 Report

Quoted By: >>13539083

>>13539031
If China was monarchist in name at least I could give some credit where it is due

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 05:11:43 No.13539049 Report

Quoted By: >>13539088 >>13539145

>>13539031
You should move there to get your silly illusions disappointed. Communism is no fun. If those chinese webms didn't educate you, maybe this man will:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhk5idZxxrQ

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 05:20:16 No.13539083 Report

Quoted By: >>13539088 >>13539251

>>13539037
monarchies are terrible. just look how degenerate the european royals are.

>>13539037
i've been to shenzhen and it was really nice. and as i said in the west you're free to be a degenerate and that is what "human rights" are defined for. you're not free in the west when you constructively criticize it, you're labelled a pariah and are unemployable and can even be imprisoned in certain parts. so that said china is better. since free speech is an illusion in the west as in china, i might as well go where i'm free to oppose degeneracy, even better when it's encouraged by the state.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 05:21:21 No.13539088 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539049
see: >>13539083

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 05:36:19 No.13539145 Report

Quoted By: >>13539251

>>13539049
"Just trust me bro"
-Random balding sexpat

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 06:22:55 No.13539251 Report

Quoted By: >>13539290

>>13539083
>monarchies are terrible. just look how degenerate the european royals are.
What a comedy, coming from chinese shill.
Japan is better than China in EVERY aspect.
Constitutional monarchies are obviously the best forms of state structure (somebody has to balance those public representatives out)
>>13539145
?????? ??? ??? ??? ??? Free Tibet ??????? The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 ?????? The Tiananmen Square Massacre ????? The Anti-Rightist Struggle ????? The Great Leap Forward ????? The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution ?? Human Rights ?? Democratization ?? Freedom ?? Independence ??? Multi-party system ?? ?? Taiwan Formosa ???? Republic of China ?? ??? ??? Tibet ???? Dalai Lama ??? Falun Dafa ???????? The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region ?????? Nobel Peace Prize ??? Liu Xiaobo ?? ?? ?? ?? ??? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??? ?? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ???? ?? ???? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Free Tibet ?????????

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 06:29:35 No.13539268 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538529
Lol my cousin in law almost got organ harvested on a train when he was still over there. Not the falon gong shit, but the Mexican style kidney theft.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 06:38:05 No.13539290 Report

Quoted By: >>13539304

>>13539251
>Japan is better than China in EVERY aspect.
japan is a great country, i'll give you that but they have allowed too much degenerate western influence over the years which i hope they will remove and not succumb to.
>Constitutional monarchies are obviously the best forms of state structure
like sweden? nah, i don't think so.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 06:45:20 No.13539304 Report

Quoted By: >>13539312 >>13539341

>>13539290
>japan is a great country, i'll give you that but they have allowed too much degenerate western influence over the years
Communism is the worst "western" degeneracies then never allowed to take a root on their soil.
> like sweden? nah, i don't think so.
Sweden is definitely under some new form of attack. I believe they will figure their shit out, either way even with all those shit people inflooding them they're still way comfier than china, because chinese people are rather shitty themselves.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 06:48:21 No.13539312 Report

Quoted By: >>13539324 >>13539345 >>13548630 >>13548642 >>13548689 >>13548763

>>13539304
Lmao in less than 10 years Sweden will be minority Swedish, the way things are in Sweden, I would not be surprised if it becomes a hotbed of afghan-syrian islamist radicalism and somalian gang war.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 06:52:18 No.13539324 Report

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>>13539312
Feminine faggot cucks get, what they, deserve lmao, cope. I wonder what will be the response of their feminist government.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 06:57:34 No.13539341 Report

Quoted By: >>13539367

>>13539304
>Communism is the worst "western" degeneracies then never allowed to take a root on their soil.
depends on the kind of communism. there are clearly very orderly forms of communism which are anything but degenerate.
>Sweden is definitely under some new form of attack.
it's called degeneracy. and its been around for ages but civilizations have had the basic understanding to curb it till the modern west came around and embraced it like a bunch of self-defeating retards. riddle me this: why does china push tiktok in the west while banning it in their own country? they understand how detrimental those crossdressers are to stability and perseverance of the nation. it's no surprise so many religions are violently anti-degeneracy. there are thousands of years of history that have shown time and time again that degeneracy is a destructive force of entropy for a civilization that if not stopped will end in its end.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:01:07 No.13539345 Report

Quoted By: >>13539366 >>13539382 >>13548650

>>13539312
Or right-wing-wave will send those shitskins back or down mcuh faster than they arrived. And that will be completely according to the plan of raising the patriotism program to postpone the abolition of the state to the unforeseeable future.
Neither me nor you know what actually is the plan of those "elites" (another consequence of that plan may be that once those immigrants be sent the fuck back they will be motivated to build something like where they lived in their own failed state. Sweden and other countries of that scale don't think inside of their tiny borders, they're set up to rule WHOLE the planet.
Though I could be too optimistic and the kikes could be actually retarded and insane and don't mind cutting off the branch they sit upon.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:05:46 No.13539356 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538451
is this a collab with ben garrison?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:09:01 No.13539366 Report

Quoted By: >>13539376

>>13539345
The plan was demographic replacement and making Europe permanently diverse. and none of those immigrants are going anywhere. The men and women of sweden chose their future.

Also there is no right wing wave apart from shiting on /pol/.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:09:49 No.13539367 Report

Quoted By: >>13539401

>>13539341
>there are clearly very orderly forms of communism which are anything but degenerate.
So why do you shill on american board instead of enjoying those orderly forms of that shit behind your great firewall? BDSM is the most degenerate shit there is, and "orderly forms of communism" are all about that, about destroying personalities and subjugating citizens to the mindless will of the state. When you're an npc in the first place, you may even like it (you know you're nothing, but now you're a part of something seemingly great, I understand these retarded feelings, I talked to many retarded degenerates of that submissive kind)
> it's called degeneracy
They were not born with that. Somebody is pumping it into their ethos. And probably the sole reason for doing that is that commie shitholes are having something to smear the West with: do you want all those western liberties (freer markets, free press, independent courts, etc) aha! you want the pride parades, you're alll faggots! - and then even american patriots gubble upon that RT shit and may want to give communism a try. And THAT could be what that plan is about.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:11:36 No.13539376 Report

Quoted By: >>13539407

>>13539366
>The plan was demographic replacement and making Europe permanently diverse.
What for?
> there is no right wing wave apart from shiting on /pol/.
keep on sleeping, sleep is good for you.
Even ai is on our side, because intelligence is all about the truth.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:12:35 No.13539382 Report

Quoted By: >>13539389 >>13548649

>>13539345
The plan was demographic replacement and making Europe permanently diverse and none of those immigrants are going anywhere, In fact the number of refugees and migrants will only increase in future specially from subsaharan Africa.

The men and women of sweden chose their future, also there is no right wing wave apart from shiting on /pol/.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:15:32 No.13539389 Report

Quoted By: >>13539402

>>13539382
>In fact the number of refugees and migrants will only increase in future specially from subsaharan Africa.
And how do you know it? Was it China all along behind this replacement project? Well, that's pretty sneaky way of leading a war, I can give you suntzuvian bastards that.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:20:34 No.13539401 Report

Quoted By: >>13539418

>>13539367
>So why do you shill on american board instead of enjoying those orderly forms of that shit behind your great firewall?
i never said i liked communism nor am i in china. just that i prefer order to degeneracy. there are many dimensions to politics and one is the scale of entropy. like economic freedom, etc.
>about destroying personalities and subjugating citizens to the mindless will of the state
that is the problem of collectivism. well said.
>western liberties
have all been trampled on for the sake of degeneracy. it's practically a hate crime in the west to argue against degeneracy. the west has no real freedom other than to be a degenerate or enabler.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:21:45 No.13539402 Report

Quoted By: >>13539418

>>13539389
>Was it China all along behind this replacement project?
it was western leadership.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:24:59 No.13539407 Report

Quoted By: >>13539418

>>13539376
> what for
Who knows it's like a mixture of reasons and circumstances.

After world War 2 many migrants came from turkey and North Africa to help rebuild Europe due to shortage of workers.

The monolithic homogenous European society posed a risk to International jewry, so that's one of the reason why the Jewish intellectuals and elites pushed for open borders in society and government.

Other reason was that feminism and couple other social trends led to decline in birth rates, and population decline due to aging, which wasn't good for economy, at the same time population was booming in North Africa, sub saharan Africa and middle East, Also add to this the socio-political instability in this regions due to radicalism, the Israel problem, US led wars etc, so the people started moving in hordes to look for better life, the govts in Europe welcomed them.

Overall I think it's just the common case of fertility, faith and growth (= immigrants) replacing sterility, atheist nihilism, and stagnance (= European society).

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:35:45 No.13539418 Report

Quoted By: >>13539433

>>13539407
You have collected all the fake excuses, they're all lies.
>>13539402
Only in your euphemistic way of using that word
>>13539401
>i prefer order to degeneracy
submissive cucks are the worst form of degenerates. You dichotomy is false. The opposite of order is freedom (which includes faggot parades, but also kicking faggots asses, and the problem is that this particular form of freedom is limited, but the more muzzos come, the more often faggots will be punished, and that will contribute to the breaking that vicious balance. As I said, I expect this situation to be a little deeper than you see it. A lion is sleeping, and stupid are the monkeys who believe that he is dead.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:44:56 No.13539433 Report

Quoted By: >>13539447 >>13539627 >>13548653 >>13548660

>>13539418
What's fake with immigrants being good for liberal free market economy with declining working age population? Also many jewish intellectuals wanted did want Europe to become more diverse and tolerant.

There is nothing fake with any of this. European society lacks humanity, culture and family, it is sterile and stagnant, rotting away. It's no brainer that it is getting replaced. Europe will demographically and economically collapse if not for immigrants.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 07:54:32 No.13539447 Report

Quoted By: >>13539458

>>13539433
>What's fake with immigrants being good for liberal free market economy with declining working age population?
Automatization, sending the dirty manufacturing abroad, population not declining at all, just fluctuating in its natural pulse, adjusting to the external reality.
> Also many jewish intellectuals wanted did want Europe to become more diverse and tolerant.
They're not intellectuals, they'e insane retards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74_BnXZs9-o
(all the other of your nonsense I will not even dignify with a response: whether we have completely different concepts of humanity and culture, or you're just speaking shit)

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 08:01:41 No.13539458 Report

Quoted By: >>13539593 >>13539633 >>13548763

>>13539447
> population not declining at all
Lmao there is not a single European country in which the natives have replacement or above replacement rates.

Their population has been declining for decades. It's you who are spewing shit. Imagine thinking there are European women in 2021 that want to have kids.

But yeah you are right about Automation, and outsourcing of Industry and manufacturing to China, but that mainly affected US, not Europe. After WW2 the only country that had Industry comparable to US was Soviet Union.

West Europe has been a economically and technologically stagnant museum for quite some time now. No new innovation comes out from Europe, It's mostly US and China doing things.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 08:46:43 No.13539546 Report

Quoted By: >>13539753

>>13538983
>the west is in a state of deficit now and overburdened by poor deals
explain

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:05:17 No.13539593 Report

Quoted By: >>13539633

>>13539458
>West Europe has been a economically and technologically stagnant museum for quite some time now. No new innovation comes out from Europe, It's mostly US and China doing things.
What a load of bullshit. There is lot of innovation taking place in Europe. Its just not as in your face and consumer oriented/marketed like american shit. The netherlands alone makes lithographic machines that no-one else can make in the world. Tons of similar machines that only germany can make. In chemistry we also dominate, in the consumer airplane field, in the fashion and car industries, etc.

It's just that we are falling a bit behind in software because we need better venture funding like the US. But that's becoming much better at an incredible pace.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:15:38 No.13539625 Report

Quoted By: >>13539827

>>13538606
why are the Balkans still such a shithole after all this time?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:16:32 No.13539627 Report

Quoted By: >>13539662 >>13539830

>>13539433
>Europe will demographically and economically collapse if not for immigrants.
Everyone who says this is an absolute blockhead. You can't have a demographic collapse just because you don't take immigrants kek. The birth rate will just stabilise as it does in any animal population.
Immigrants, by the way, wouldnt even solve a demographic collapse problem even if such a thing existed. Immigrants also age, in case nobody noticed. What happens then? Well, if they're in this new culture, they'll be having children at approximately the same rate as the original population once they settle in, and that means they need to be supported by - no surprises here - more immigrants, except now it's even worse because you need to support an even bigger population.
In fact the only way not to have a demographic disaster here is to not take large number of migrants in the first place. Western populations are being blatantly lied to and having immigrants forced on them to fix a problem which does not exist, and would not hurt them, except for the people at the top, even if it did. It's demographic replacement plain and simple.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:20:37 No.13539633 Report

Quoted By: >>13539664 >>13539671

>>13539458
nah europe is doing fine, and they are going to do better with the EU strengthening and the US influence finally dropping. Europe is also not stagnant at all. >>13539593 this, but also it depends how you define innovation. Look at urban planning for example in the US and China, it's based around the car, has poor walkability, poor maintainability, poor spaces. Compare that to some of the stuff happening in the scandinavian countries, denmark and benelux. And you will see why overall happiness is much higher in european countries. I find that sort of innovation much more important.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:29:47 No.13539662 Report

Quoted By: >>13539687 >>13539692

>>13539627
>Western populations are being blatantly lied to and having immigrants forced on them to fix a problem which does not exist, and would not hurt them, except for the people at the top, even if it did.
We need people for jobs that no-one wants to do in the first place. You make it sound like a problem of the elite vs the normal european. But can you please convince the normal european to take a garbage man job, or a fruit picking job, or a distribution center job? And then there are jobs within higher industries, where we need more qualified people, for which we are actually just brain draining the middle eastern countries.

It's not as easy as "immigrants bad for general population and country". Those immigrants make our lives easier and make the country more wealthy. In fact the only people losing are the original countries and populations the immigrants come from. And yes there are a few rotten apples. But go look at unemployment in europe, and you'll see that it is lowering and that there are actually very few people who don't contribute.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:30:07 No.13539664 Report

Quoted By: >>13539701 >>13539710

>>13539633
Here is urban planning and happiness in Sweden.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977.amp

Also I am not sure, what are you talking about the only livable city in Europe is probably Moscow, cities like London, Brussels and Paris are absolute filthy shitholes. American cities like Boston are better than any of them.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:34:24 No.13539671 Report

Quoted By: >>13541608 >>13541631

>>13539633
lol Europe is going collapse, they are taking in Somalis, Arabs and Africans which are the absolute worst in terms of cognitive decline and won't integrate. At least America is taking in Mexicans which are a milder form of cognitive decline and are at least christian. They will also interbreed which may result in 90 IQ castizos.

Don't get me wrong, America is in terminal decline. But Europe? Europe is uttely, absolutely, fucked.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:42:44 No.13539687 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539662
I wonder just how many garbage man jobs are in Europe? How many millions (or billions) of subsaharan africans and middle easterners do you need to solve the problem of natives won't do these jobs meme?

Not to say as Automation and AI tech gets further developed in US and China, even some technical jobs will fade away from the society, only specific narrowed specialised maintenance and R&D jobs will remain, I am not sure if continuing hordes of subsaharan africans will be able to contribute much.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:45:26 No.13539692 Report

Quoted By: >>13539727

>>13539662
>We need people for jobs that no-one wants to do in the first place
If they stopped taking migrants wages would go up and people would take them since they wouldnt be so blatantly exploitative.
Backwards logic used by neocon retards.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:47:29 No.13539701 Report

Quoted By: >>13539720 >>13539983

>>13539664
>proceeds to nitpick a news article of the bbc
Go look at actual happiness indexes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

Plus this does not compare to american gun violence where every week some people die.
https://ourworldindata.org/homicides

Cities like Copenhagen, Rotterdam, Glasgow, Barcelona, Berlin, Munchen, Prague etc. are much better places to live in than Boston lmao. The first ones are made for people by people. The second one is made by corporations to sell cars.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:51:36 No.13539710 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539664
>Also I am not sure, what are you talking about the only livable city in Europe is probably Moscow
You can hear the Chinese accent when you read this
Also kek at American cities being livable.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:55:28 No.13539720 Report

Quoted By: >>13539723 >>13539732

>>13539701
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report
lol that just asks people of they are happy or not, it's subjective as fuck.

Guatemala is a better place to live in than Italy? What a stupid fuck you are.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:57:01 No.13539723 Report

Quoted By: >>13539735

>>13539720
>are you happy?
>yes
>wtf this test must be broken, he said yes even though he doesn't have a big tv

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:57:58 No.13539727 Report

Quoted By: >>13539737 >>13552937

>>13539692
People don't want those jobs since they suck and are hard, not since they don't pay well. Go be a garbage man for 100 euro's an hour. I guarantee you that you will stop in 1 month, since you can't get the smell of garbage out of your skin.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 09:59:24 No.13539732 Report

Quoted By: >>13539752

>>13539720
Are your homicides also subjective as fuck?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:00:18 No.13539735 Report

Quoted By: >>13539740

>>13539723
The questions are more like
>Do you think your country is corrupt?
>Do you think life in your country is good?
>Do you think you have a say in government?
And so on...

Unsurpringly many shitholes with low IQ peoples overestimate their countries while others give a more fair assessment.
Useless poll.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:01:47 No.13539737 Report

Quoted By: >>13552960

>>13539727
>People don't want those jobs since they suck and are hard, not since they don't pay well.
This makes no difference. If the compensation is adequate people will take them. This is the same principle as any bad job, of which there are plenty.
This is no reason for demographic replacement. This is an argument in favour of automation, if anything.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:02:49 No.13539740 Report

Quoted By: >>13539752

>>13539735
You mean highly corrupt places like China? Or just the countries you don't like?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:08:25 No.13539752 Report

Quoted By: >>13539756

>>13539740
lol bash China's quality of life all you want, but don't use such a retarded index based on a poll, you retarded shitstain.

HDI is better for the point you were trying to make, it measures life expectancy, healthcare, GDP per capita, poverty and so on.

>>13539732
I'm not the guy you were arguing with, dilate.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:08:52 No.13539753 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539546
the west is hemorrhaging its wealth like no tomorrow while in a state of near 0 growth rate slowing/stagnation/contraction.
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/portlet_file_entry/2995521/2-21012021-AP-EN.pdf/a3748b22-e96e-7f62-ba05-11c7192e32f3

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:10:34 No.13539756 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539752
Oh no someone's attacking my previous chinkerinos!
I'm not even the same anon, I literally haven't even bothered to read any of these long gay posts you faggots were making and I don't know what side you're even on. This thread is just incredibly homosexual and you should all kill yourselves.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:28:17 No.13539795 Report

Quoted By: >>13540031

>>13538328
>white lesbians at 7:17
Chinese development vs western decadence

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:39:58 No.13539827 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539625
No lustrations, thus commie functioneers pretend to be democrats, but they were taught to fight private enterprise all their lives. You cannot teach old dogs any new tricks.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 10:42:05 No.13539830 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539627
>In fact the only way not to have a demographic disaster
is not to allow governments try to solve that "problem"

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 11:47:29 No.13539983 Report

Quoted By: >>13541605

>>13539701
> Proceeds to post useless meme polls.

This is what people have built for themselves in Sweden.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/26/fatal-shootings-have-risen-in-sweden-despite-fall-across-europe-report-finds

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56977771.amp

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16457/sweden-violence-crime

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/sweden-goes-being-one-safest-countries-europe-second-most-dangerous

And the people involved in all of this, are only going to increase demographically, it's not even a matter of decades, before the country needs a foreign intervention, The countries in northern Europe are too naive and inefficient that are run like rich US liberal college campuses

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 12:12:12 No.13540031 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539795
>CHINESE DEVELOPMENT THREAD
Did you know China is a world civilization with a huge impact on culture and economy internationally? The Chinese are the hardest working group in the world. They are relentless and persevering, nothing can stop them from accomplishing their goals.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 13:26:56 No.13540151 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538525
interesting data
thanks, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 13:27:57 No.13540155 Report

Quoted By: >>13540218

>>13538479
the amount of numbers you can remember after given limited time to memorise literally has a .4 correlation with income

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 13:51:24 No.13540218 Report

Quoted By:

>>13540155
what correlation does daddy's income have with babby's income?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 14:03:34 No.13540249 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538578
>Altruism is highly correlated with high IQ, is not an either/or choice.

High IQ individuals are more likely to be able to recoup resources expended through altruism, so it's less costly for them. Conversely, low IQ individuals can't afford to be altruistic.

So the interesting question is whether high/low IQ individuals with less/more resources respectively still practice the same amount of altruism.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 14:16:28 No.13540284 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
>more relaxed construction regulations
>material sourcing barely regulated
>shitty materials used everywhere because anyone can scam anyone without any negative repercussions
>shit collapsing left and right

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 14:17:31 No.13540287 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
Has nothing to do with IQ and everything to do with politics. The midwits in academia in USA that are obsessed with tranny shit have higher IQ than the average of China.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 14:26:48 No.13540310 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
Enjoy your smog

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 15:38:37 No.13540532 Report

Quoted By: >>13540792

>>13538451
The absolute state of whites nowadays is proof that altruism is a very dangerous thing, and must be kept in check. You guys can have your altruism, the rest of us will be just fine with ruthless intelligence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 15:52:33 No.13540574 Report

Quoted By: >>13540650

>>13538529
>15 points have been deducted from your social credit score for being WAY too obvious

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 16:18:19 No.13540650 Report

Quoted By: >>13540668

>>13540574
That guy is right though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 16:22:07 No.13540668 Report

Quoted By: >>13540714

>>13540650
looks as orderly and peaceful as any other american or european city. shitting out skyscrapers and block housing isnt a new concept whatsoever, maybe some people unironically want to suck the chinese cock but nobody without ulterior motives acts that ignorant on the internet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 16:32:17 No.13540714 Report

Quoted By: >>13549006

>>13540668
>ulterior motives
NOOOOOOOOO MY HECKIN GOD GIVEN FREEDOMINOS ARE ERODED SAVE ME BEN FRANKLIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 17:00:27 No.13540792 Report

Quoted By: >>13540800

>>13540532
Two ruthlessly intelligent people that steal, bribe, and lie to each-other tend to accomplish less than slightly less intelligent but honest and open partners. Trust and distributed knowledge creates the environments to allow genius to flourish, without it’s often overlooked or wasted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 17:03:06 No.13540800 Report

Quoted By: >>13540834

>>13540792
That’s not altruism, that’s cooperation. Altruism is selfless, cooperating with someone for mutual gain is not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 17:06:11 No.13540804 Report

Quoted By: >>13540819

>>13538339
It was a poor shithole because it was ravaged by warfare for at least 40 years.

On the other it was one the greatest civilisations for at least 5000 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 17:11:03 No.13540819 Report

Quoted By: >>13543392 >>13547243

>>13540804
shit bait
2/5

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 17:14:14 No.13540834 Report

Quoted By:

>>13540800
Large scale cooperation requires altruism. It’s impossible to establish cooperative relationships with everyone in a government, country, or large corporation. At a certain scale you need an ideal that acts as a Schelling point for enough people to act in concert without direct communication.

For Northwestern Europe this manifested as concepts of fairness, objectivity, humanitarianism, and altruism. The excess wealth created by looking out for the “greater good” by enough people is enormous, even when others parasitically take advantage of it. Despite all the memes about being cucked NW Europe and US have relatively higher standard of living and low corruption compared to most of the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 17:25:07 No.13540858 Report

Quoted By: >>13540874

>>13539031
>pro-order
*pro-money
>anti-degeneracy
i dont know how you define anti degeneracy, free speech surely is such a degenerate thing
>high-iq
the 70% of the nation works on factory lines doing the most repititve, least create jobs and they dont even enjoy it
>strong familial structures
haha, roll again.
You feel for the meme and instead of living there and figuring it out you just spout bs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 17:29:47 No.13540874 Report

Quoted By:

>>13540858
>free speech surely is such a degenerate thing
it is, unironically

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 19:51:06 No.13541438 Report

Quoted By: >>13541612 >>13562504

>>13538328
Literally almost all scientific achievements belong to the west, the only reason you have internet today is because the west invented it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:25:47 No.13541541 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
>chinese architechture
>https://www.liveleak.cc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:40:31 No.13541592 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:44:48 No.13541605 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539983
Man sweden really did go to shit, lmao. Shit like this is unprecedented.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:45:30 No.13541608 Report

Quoted By: >>13541635 >>13541667

>>13539671
The US can balkanize and it is likely to happen soon t b h

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:47:08 No.13541612 Report

Quoted By:

>>13541438
Yeah and all future innovation and tech will come out of China, not the West, unlike us they aren't psychologically and spiritually exhausted, and aren't busy in building up the pyre of their own nation.

China 2049 All the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:50:00 No.13541624 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538692
That is mostly due to lack of proper opposition. Europeans had to fight for every small chunk of land, but, for example, when Germany united, they erased that 10000 year gap in under 50 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:51:22 No.13541631 Report

Quoted By: >>13541660

>>13539671
>Europe is uttely, absolutely, fucked.
Unless we reconnect with our warlike history then probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:51:56 No.13541635 Report

Quoted By:

>>13541608
There is little window of time for that balkanisation to happen, as the overall population of non hispanic whites has been decreasing since 2016 and the rate at which it is decreaasing is increasing by the year. In 2016 the population decreased by 77k, in 2019 by 266k.

Tbh I don't think so, such a thing will happen, the people are too altruistic, naive and liberal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:58:12 No.13541660 Report

Quoted By:

>>13541631
Not gonna happen, Europe got demilitarized for good with the end of World War 2.

Also Europe is a aged, dying society with no men for having a strong military. The only country in Europe that has a military worth anything is Russia.

As US goes to shit on both domestic and international level, EU will fall too, Russians will take over Eastern Europe like before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 20:59:23 No.13541667 Report

Quoted By:

>>13541608
The democrats have been transporting millions of migrants into these white/republican states, juist do a little research and you'll be even more depressed
all of those blackrock owbned properties are getting filled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 21:00:45 No.13541671 Report

Quoted By: >>13541682

>>13538328
> Huge 100-story skyscraper
> At top is KFC in huge letters
Damn, they must love their fried chicken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 21:04:58 No.13541682 Report

Quoted By:

>>13541671
It's IFC, international finance corporation, private arm of World Bank.
https://www.ifc.org

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Aug 2021 21:09:22 No.13541696 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
>IQ
>muh unstoppable red Chinese dragon
OP is a faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Aug 2021 09:14:29 No.13543392 Report

Quoted By: >>13548069 >>13549972

>>13540819
not him but pretty much all modern historians believe the same.

lemme guess the historians are jews right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Aug 2021 09:36:11 No.13543418 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538529
Yes, it does look extraordinarily clean from 200 metres up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Aug 2021 16:20:27 No.13544480 Report

Quoted By: >>13544662

>>13538328
>with just a slightly higher average IQ than America
Has there ever been a big IQ research outside Shanghai (not by proxy from PISA, which is also done only in fucking Shanghai) ?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 21 Aug 2021 17:18:36 No.13544662 Report

Quoted By: >>13544701

>>13544480
Lynn 2006

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 21 Aug 2021 17:30:25 No.13544701 Report

Quoted By:

>>13544662
>Lynn 2006

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:47:36 No.13547220 Report

Quoted By: >>13547949

>>13538744
>2 days
>still no response to this
hmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:55:45 No.13547234 Report

Quoted By: >>13549843

>>13538744
WE WERE MONARCHS AND SUCH

let me guess the author is a britcuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:04:47 No.13547243 Report

Quoted By:

>>13540819
It's true. You being a butthurt mutt it doesn't change that fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:11:52 No.13547254 Report

Quoted By: >>13547259 >>13547266

>>13538529
That’s how I felt in Japan. Locals just pick up trash and shop owners clean the streets that lead to their business. People voluntarily put in effort to make their environment a better place.

On the other hand the only places in china that look clean are full of surveillance cameras with people getting punished harshly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:12:40 No.13547257 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538744
How did one tiny island nation contribute so much in such a short period of time? England's population was only around 4,000,000 in 1600 and didn't even surpass 9,000,000 until after 1800

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:12:50 No.13547259 Report

Quoted By: >>13547290

>>13547254
Seems like an argument for mass surveillance to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:15:51 No.13547266 Report

Quoted By:

>>13547254
I saw a recent speech given by Tucker Carlson on his trip to Hungary, much of it was spent gushing over the architechture, but he said the part that most struck him was how a border guard picked up a plastic bag and put it in his own pocket to throw in the garbage. If you love something you seek to protect it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:21:47 No.13547290 Report

Quoted By: >>13547292

>>13547259
That’s actually how most double digits think. Problem is that totalitarian states rarely benefit the population, even western democracies degenerated to a point they exploit 30-40% to benefit the remaining 60-70% to get votes from those.

It’s fun and games until you end up at the receiving end I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:22:40 No.13547292 Report

Quoted By: >>13547304

>>13547290
>nooooooo not the heckin freedominos of the peopleronis
Shut up, libcuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:30:44 No.13547304 Report

Quoted By: >>13547445

>>13547292
It’s called common sense and you would likely be the first one to be sent to a gulag the moment you realize that you don’t belong to the ruling class and act up in the same rebelious way you do now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 12:38:47 No.13547445 Report

Quoted By:

>>13547304
>libcuckery is "common sense"
>y-you'd go to gulag too
common copes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 12:45:28 No.13547466 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
when i see something like this i'm so goddamn happy that i live in switzerland, where cities are small and i have nature all around me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 15:45:09 No.13547949 Report

Quoted By: >>13548636 >>13550889 >>13550901 >>13550904 >>13550917 >>13550922

>>13547220
What do you want people to tell you?
You are a fucking moron if you believe such a book. It's also been debunked.

If you quantify discoveries by their representation in English-language encyclopedias and biographical dictionaries, and exclude work produced since 1950, it will obviously lead to an overemphasis of Anglo cultural achievements. I doubt Victorian Era encyclopedias cared about tracing back the Chinese or Arab origins of X or Y invention.

This is why people don't take /pol/ seriously. You'll believe any infographic, from a book I'm 100% sure that you haven't read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 16:17:18 No.13548069 Report

Quoted By: >>13549849

>>13543392
No you retard. The industrial age started in the early 19th century. They didn't industrialize because they lacked the technology and the knowledge necessary to do so. China was an agrarian shit hole for a century and some change before WWII even started. Literally Africa/South America tier. Test the IQ of the average Chinese farmer in the 1930s, and they probably would test in the borderline retarded range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:32:08 No.13548599 Report

Quoted By: >>13555343

>>13538451
>all their intellectual efforts undermining
This is what Jews do but to their high trust host population and it works as long as they aren't held accountable, which is long overdue in the West

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:41:20 No.13548630 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539312
>Lmao in less than 10 years Sweden will be minority Swedish, the way things are in Sweden, I would not be surprised if it becomes a hotbed of afghan-syrian islamist radicalism and somalian gang war.
Good. Literal sub human faggot bitchboi Swedish man-boys are getting genocided for being weak, hednonistic, vidya game playing, cuck porn watching, Jew-trusting, nigger-loving, faggots. I hate Sweden for than almost any other country. What pathological faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:43:16 No.13548636 Report

Quoted By: >>13550889

>>13547949
>It's also been debunked.
I'm open to reading a good critique of the guy, do you have a link exploring his flawed procedures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:44:42 No.13548642 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539312
Sweden's mistake was taking in a large contingent of certain refugees during ww2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:46:07 No.13548649 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539382
This is the Zionist plan but if and when the autistic Europeans weaponize themselves it will all come to an abrupt end with mass destruction and possibly nuclear weapons being deployed. If it gets this far there is no telling who will come out victorious. If it gets this extreme it will not bode will for the Jews as at a deep level they truly believe some psychotic god is taking car of them (there is not).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:46:11 No.13548650 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539345
>Though I could be too optimistic and the kikes could be actually retarded and insane and don't mind cutting off the branch they sit upon.
You shouldn't discount it It has happened several times before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:47:21 No.13548653 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539433
Extraordinarily Jewish post.
Talmud/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:48:33 No.13548660 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539433
So what you a Jewishly saying is that the Ponzi scheme of growth economics must go one lest the Jews lose power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 18:58:25 No.13548689 Report

Quoted By: >>13548707

>>13539312
Who cares?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:03:09 No.13548707 Report

Quoted By:

>>13548689
Do you currently live surrounded by Hasidic Jews, niggers and Muslims? If not, why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:08:24 No.13548733 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
What has China achieved?

China has been booming for the last few decades, but it started from literal starvation and famine. Its easy for poor countries to emulate rich countries.

But once you are mega rich like the US and much of the west, the only way to continue to grow is to do novel things no one has done before. You have to come up with new ideas, which is hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:13:02 No.13548746 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538772
The kids grow up with their grandparents, because the parents just fuck off to the cities. And nobody looks after what the kids are doing, so it's common for them to just whore themselves out for money or some other denegerate shit. I don't know where all this stuff about China being somehow orderly and decent is coming from

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:19:40 No.13548763 Report

Quoted By: >>13548798 >>13548940 >>13548970 >>13554616

>>13539312
I think Sweden is 25% immigrant right now, and their total population is 10 million. So you are saying that in 10 years some 5 million or so non Swedes need to appear in Sweden.

Doesn't seem likely.

>>13539458
>Lmao there is not a single European country in which the natives have replacement or above replacement rates.

But this is kind of a spook tho. Because there is variation in fertility rates.

Say you have 10 swedish couples, and 8 of them have 1 kid, and 2 of them have 4 kids. So the average is 1.6, which is clearly below replacement.

Folks like you are looking at this going "1.6 isnt enough, they are all going to die off and go extinct", but you arent looking at the families with 4 kids and going "4 kids per family is crazy fast growth, and there will be a billion swedes in merely 250 years"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:27:50 No.13548798 Report

Quoted By: >>13548817

>>13548763
> doesn't seem likely
Do you know how many kids an average immigrant/refugee family in Sweden has?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:31:07 No.13548817 Report

Quoted By: >>13548834 >>13554616

>>13548798
No. I expect more than the native fertility. Even if it was doubling, it would not be 5 million new people in 10 years.

And there are a few more factors, which are:
- Many of those immigrants are not from backwards third world countries, but just other Europeans like Danes, and Germans, etc where they have similar fertility rates
- I think fertility rates tend to crash when people live in modern urban environments, which effects refugees into Europe as much as anyone else. Like we see the trend of wealthy europeans not having kids, and the same thing happens to refugees as they settle into a rich economy as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:36:24 No.13548834 Report

Quoted By: >>13548882 >>13550082

>>13548817
That is a cope, the fertility rates stabilise but even they are a lot higher than the natives, also you aren't taking into account that in coming years the number of refugees and economic migrants from North Africa, sub-saharan Africa, horn of Africa are only going to increase.

Take the current Afghanistan situation, climate change and other socio-political problems in Africa and middle East will only lead to more migrants in Europe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:36:56 No.13548837 Report

Quoted By: >>13549916

>>13538339
China has been the wealthiest and most technologically advanced civilization on the planet for most of its history, albeit with interdynastic periods of strife in between.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:37:08 No.13548839 Report

Quoted By:

>Look at what China can achieve with slave labour and a gun at your back
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:49:42 No.13548882 Report

Quoted By:

>>13548834
5 million though? There aren't even 5 million immigrants in Sweden now. You are saying in the next 10 years, immigration and immigrant fertility in Sweden will totally dwarf all immigration for the last 30 years or so.

Why? You are pointing to afganistan, but, a lot of shit has been going on in the middle east for the last 30 years, and that hasnt resulted in 5 million immigrants. There is no precedent for what you are saying, and you arent providing a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:03:54 No.13548940 Report

Quoted By:

>>13548763
Overall the swede population is decreasing, and the refugee/immigrant population is increasing both due to hig fertility rates and due to more immigration.

There is a more than a significant difference, so it is clear in next few decades the swedes will become minority.

The other anon who said "within 10 years" is wrong though, I think it will at least take 2-3 decades.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:09:08 No.13548963 Report

Quoted By: >>13548978 >>13548983

in this thread I see a lot of sadists gloating over the idea of ethnic replacement of some of the most innovative and civilised countries on earth al while trying to make people feel guilty for being angry at these policies being forced on them and that they should be grateful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:10:57 No.13548970 Report

Quoted By: >>13548992 >>13548997

>>13548763
>>Lmao there is not a single European country in which the natives have replacement or above replacement rates.
Actually Iceland had above replacement fertility rates but they got their first rabbi a few years ago after they tried to ban circumcision so that might not last.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:12:29 No.13548978 Report

Quoted By: >>13549015

>>13548963
Nobody cares, west is over, the Chinese will inherit the earth, all the scientific and technological progress will come from east like before.

Take the china pill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:13:41 No.13548983 Report

Quoted By: >>13549004 >>13549022 >>13549026

>>13548963
I don't understand how you see that, and the fact that people like you "see" that all the time is really scary to me.

I actually thought when you said "sadists" you meant right wing people at first, since they are the ones obsessively paying attention to this information. They like seeing this information that depicts whites and European countries in peril.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:16:06 No.13548992 Report

Quoted By:

>>13548970
In 2020, the fertility rate was 1.7, the last time they had above replacement rate fertility was in 2010 (2.2).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:16:47 No.13548997 Report

Quoted By: >>13552789

>>13548970
Obviously whether there is 1 or 0 rabbis in Iceland has nothing to do with the fertility in Iceland.

Make a graph of fertility and rabbis. I dont think youll see a correlation. All those African countries with very few rabbis and high fertility, and all those asian countries also with very few rabbis and low fertility.

None of this stuff about jews makes any fucking sense. The fact that its so insane and it just keeps trucking in people's minds is really scary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:18:15 No.13549004 Report

Quoted By: >>13549026

>>13548983
Yeah there is literally no point seething about things you have no control over, it seems as if Europeans have fetish for nihilism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:18:33 No.13549006 Report

Quoted By: >>13549009

>>13540714
if you think anything matters moar than freedom you need to fuck off to china

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:19:44 No.13549009 Report

Quoted By: >>13549021

>>13549006
He will have better life there compared to your Amerishart or europoor shithole

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:21:52 No.13549015 Report

Quoted By: >>13549029

>>13548978
That's bullshit, china's structure left it stagnated and was completely leapfrogged by the innovative western european nations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:22:58 No.13549021 Report

Quoted By:

>>13549009
you go with him. i wish you both the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:23:22 No.13549022 Report

Quoted By:

>>13548983
Pessimism of strength.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:25:01 No.13549026 Report

Quoted By: >>13549038 >>13549894

>>13548983
>>13549004
See you are simply gloating over the idea, while attempting to deny the natives their rightful dissent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:25:38 No.13549029 Report

Quoted By:

>>13549015
Stop living in delusions and past, it's not 1990 anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:27:24 No.13549038 Report

Quoted By: >>13549043 >>13549058

>>13549026
No one has denied anything to the natives, they have given up themselves. They are convinced.

The rightards like to project as if they are being oppressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:28:04 No.13549043 Report

Quoted By:

>>13549038
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 20:32:35 No.13549058 Report

Quoted By:

>>13549038
>No one has denied anything to the natives
No rerefndum has ever been put to these countries asking if they wanted these immigrants, quite the opposite in fact. despite massive protests their complaints have been ignored by politicians controlled by international finacier mafias

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 01:23:07 No.13549843 Report

Quoted By:

>>13547234
well the data comes from the Japanese department of trade and industry and through an evaluation of Japanese animations (also known as anime) like Hellsing,Seieki ga suki,code geass and similar media expressions that depict the British people in a favorable light, we can infer that japan is biased toward the British tarnishing the sanctity of the study by making it void

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 01:26:09 No.13549849 Report

Quoted By: >>13550077

>>13548069
>1930s
LOL
Try 1990s.
China was Africa-tier until the 1990s.
It only started to develop due to Deng's reforms.

Even today it's still a third world country outside of the coastal cities. This is what communism does to a society. The Japanese and Taiwanese should be building monuments to Mao for retarding the development of China for over a century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 01:47:45 No.13549894 Report

Quoted By: >>13550440

>>13549026
I'm not gloating. What am I doing thats gloating?

I like western Europe. Western Europeans have gone great things (technology, art, etc), and if the world is going to have similar great things moving forward then having more western Europeans seems like a good bet. If those western European countries were "lost" in some sense or another, that would be very bad.

And yet, I am not here saying anything as creepy as "Jews are doing this deliberately. Its time to fight back". Which seems crazy on every level. And hostile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 01:57:54 No.13549916 Report

Quoted By:

>>13548837
No it wasn't retard. They invented 5 things in the entirety of history and were closed off farmers who did nothing for all of our history except kill each other. You're a total retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 02:18:18 No.13549972 Report

Quoted By: >>13550004

>>13543392
pretty much all modern historians believe the same.
so what? this still do not necessarily make true. there were no "china" or least like it is today or 200 years ago. like saying german state has been around for thousand of year but the governments ruling that land arent "german" states. appeal to authority basedboys like you are so tiring.
>bring the jews into it also to delegitimize noticing of noses in these things and alike
hah youre good one you know that free man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 02:28:18 No.13550004 Report

Quoted By: >>13550424

>>13549972
I cannot understand your point. I just dont see what you are saying.

China is thousands of years old. Are you saying that isnt true? I dont mean, a singular continuous Chinese government. That is obviously not true. But there has been one continuous body of Chinese people roughly at that one spot on the Earth.

German people and their ancestors have been circulating around Germany and its neighbors for a long time. Its not nearly as continuous or localized as China, but clearly Germany- as in all things and all people German- is older than 200 years. I think modern German people are the ethnic descendents of the "Ostsiedlung", which was a big German migration east 700 years ago. Back then people from what is today France / West Germany, migrated east and mixed with the local slavic populations. So "Germany" as we know it is kind of like a smear of NW European ancestry from west germany where its 100% NW Euro to vienna where its like 30% NW Euro. (And then going back farther than 700 years it gets more complex since those people in France / West Germany were themselves immigrants from East Germany 1000 years before that).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 02:58:48 No.13550077 Report

Quoted By:

>>13549849
None of this makes sense anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 03:01:03 No.13550082 Report

Quoted By:

>>13548834
migrants migrate to nearby nations.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 03:03:50 No.13550087 Report

Quoted By: >>13550338 >>13550419 >>13563258

>>13538328
>I'm starting to realize just how useful IQ is at scale. Look at what China can achieve with just a slightly higher average IQ than America.
Wrong. China's IQ is much higher than Europe's.

Europeans pretend that IQ scores are legitimate, because that way they look higher than they really are.
In reality, all 1st world IQs are massively inflated.

Pic related is respective IQ scores if all races lived in the same "2nd world" environment

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 04:34:09 No.13550338 Report

Quoted By: >>13562487

>>13550087
I'm so confused by your post. You said European IQ is inflated. But then you share this graph where European IQ is 100, which seems to be a close third place, and the graph only goes up to 105. Thats pretty good within the full variance of your graph?

And then you say "Europeans pretend IQ scores are legitimate because that way they look higher"

What bizarro universe are you in where Europeans pretend IQ scores matter? White people hate IQ. White people love equality, and individualism, and the idea that some fundamental inherent score care vary between people or groups hurts them deeply.

And why would pretending like its legitimate make them look better? Thats like saying if I was a wimpy skinny guy, who talked big shit about lifting weights, it would make me look stronger. Not really? It would just highlight my weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 04:36:52 No.13550349 Report

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>>13538328
China is fake.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 04:58:59 No.13550405 Report

Quoted By: >>13555711 >>13555721

>>13538328
You do realize asian IQ is result of their governments allowing only the cream of the crop too be tested. If america did the same with our own native ivy level academics we'd be the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:00:58 No.13550411 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538634
>The racial IQ gap between whites and Asians is tiny.
>It's also due to recent pressures downwards on European IQ together with increase in Asian IQ. In the future you'll actually see a decrease in Asian IQ as well.
Is this due the middle income gap causing a social sink in asia?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:05:18 No.13550419 Report

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>>13550087
>Pic related is respective IQ scores if all races lived in the same "2nd world" environment
Isn't that delibrately moving the goal post. Thats a false dilemma logical fallacy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:07:27 No.13550424 Report

Quoted By: >>13550469

>>13550004
In the middle of the multi-ethnic Tang dynasty, an Indo-European general named An Lushan started a civil war that has been called the second deadliest conflict in history after WWII. Some scholars claim that 36 million people died, or 1/6 of the world's population. Regardless, about 2/3 of China's entire population was killed or displaced. An Lushan tried to conquer all of China. Even Indo-Europeans, Uyghurs, Tibetans, and Arabs got involved, raping and massacring the defenseless Chinese population and further mongrelizing the already mongrelized "Chinese race." This is the war in which 30,000 civilians were eaten during a prolonged siege. By the time the siege ended, only 400 civilians remained. Cannibalism has a long and continuous tradition in China, look it up. The Tang dynasty never recovered from this war and declined.

Once the Tang dynasty collapsed, the northern half of China was again conquered by foreigners. The Khitans and Jurchens enslaved, oppressed and exploited the Chinese for more than 300 years. The Jurchens were especially brutal. In the "Jingkang Incident," they captured the Song dynasty capital and massacred, raped and enslaved the entire population, including the royal family of China. The emperor himself and 14,000 elites were forced to march all the way to the Jurchen capital where they all became slaves or sex slaves. The Jurchens ruled the northern half of China with an iron fist, but they were eventually replaced by the Mongols, who conquered all of China. The Mongols enforced a rigid caste system in which the "southern Chinese" were placed at the absolute bottom, below the "northern Chinese." The northern Chinese elites were not ethnically Chinese. They were descendants of the foreign invaders who had repeatedly conquered the northern half of China for centuries. The rest of the population was a mongrelized byproduct of centuries of rape and race-mixing that irreversibly and forcibly changed the gene pool of China.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:16:25 No.13550440 Report

Quoted By: >>13550452 >>13550872 >>13555662

>>13549894
Well Jews are definitely doing it deliberately, it isn't even hidden or something, why is it so hard for you to understand that it's in their interest?

And yeah there is no point in spamming "it's da joos", "let us fight back" etc because it is pointless. Gotta just accept the reality sometimes and move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:21:58 No.13550452 Report

Quoted By: >>13550476 >>13558158

>>13550440
>Gotta just accept the reality sometimes and move on.
If only /pol/ could do this instead of just wallow in despair about doom all day. Its very weird. They gotta go on and do bigger and better things

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:32:47 No.13550469 Report

Quoted By: >>13550516

>>13550424
Thanks for teaching me about the An Lushan rebellion. I didnt know about it and I learned a lot from you. But googling it a bit it seems that "2/3rd of China died" figure is not true:
>The figure of 36 million was used in Steven Pinker's book The Better Angels of Our Nature, where it is presented as proportionally the largest atrocity in history with the loss of a sixth of the world's population at that time,[35] though Pinker stated that the figure was controversial.[36] Matthew White, from whom Pinker had taken the figure of 36 million, later revised his figure down to 13 million (based on a different calculation from the census results) in his book The Great Big Book of Horrible Things.[37] White's revised figure is repeated by cultural historians such as Johan Norberg.

Also, you make it sound like the Mongolians completely flushed out the Han gene pool, but when I look to the wikipedia of Han Chinese..
>Comparisons between the Y chromosome SNP and MtDNA of modern Northern Han Chinese and 3,000 year old Hengbei ancient samples from China's Central Plains show they are extremely similar to each other and show continuity between ancient Chinese of Hengbei and current Northern Han Chinese. This showed that already 3,000 years ago the current northern Han Chinese genetic structure was already formed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:36:54 No.13550476 Report

Quoted By: >>13550509

>>13550452
> They gotta go on and do bigger and better things

Most people irrespective of whether they are /pol/tards or not are just not capable of doing anything. Their life mostly consists of coping, larping and seething.

This is like 90% of the population on all social media/forums etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:50:31 No.13550509 Report

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>>13550476
Yes I'm aware that most people are npc's lad.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:52:37 No.13550516 Report

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>>13550469
The Mongol Yuan dynasty was eventually ousted by Chinese peasants. The first emperor of the Ming dynasty was originally a homeless bum. After all that time being dominated by foreigners, the actual Chinese finally ruled all of China... but not for long. Northern foreigners called the Manchus conquered all of China and established the Qing dynasty, which is the last dynasty in the history of China. 25 million people died during the Manchu conquest of China. The Manchus were extremely cruel to the enslaved Chinese population. They brutally imposed a national hairstyle called the "queue," which was essentially a circumcision of the head that symbolized Chinese enslavement to the Manchus, and carried out a decade of gruesome massacres against all the Chinese who resisted it. For almost 300 years until the end of the Qing dynasty, it was illegal to not have a queue upon punishment of death. The Manchus even had the most brutal and oppressive literary inquisitions in the history of China. Entire villages were executed to punish individuals who so much as uttered a single word of criticism about the Manchus. "Death by a thousand cuts" was especially popular during the Qing dynasty.

Ironically, the "Han Chinese" are actually proud of their historical enslavement to the Manchus. Uncle Changs brag that the Han Chinese played an important role in the Manchu conquest of China and aided the Manchus in their rapes and massacres of millions of innocent Han Chinese. The shameless Han Chinese even boast that the Manchus were benevolent masters and worship Manchu emperors such as Kang Xi, proving without a doubt that the Han Chinese are a natural slave race, which is why Imperial Japan degradingly called them "chankoro," meaning "Qing's slaves." Manchu rule of China finally ended in 1912, but it's been well documented that for years afterward many Han Chinese were still terrified to cut their queue in fear of possible retribution by their former Manchu masters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 05:57:19 No.13550522 Report

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>>13538328
i'd argue this is less indicative of high iq scores, (130 iq personally), and more of a functioning central government that forces corporations to bend to its will and not the other way around

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 06:05:04 No.13550537 Report

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The oldest living civilisation in the history of mankind, the highest population, yet not more than a handful of texts worth reading and almost no inventions beyond the big 4 (which they love to constantly reference). There's singular European and West Asian cities that have contributed more to history than the entirety of Chinese history. You will find on a single shelf in Mediterranean libraries more influential literary works than in the entire corpus of Chinese literature. You could combine the achievements of the 100 most influential Chinese people of all time and the totality of their efforts would still pale in comparison to the contributions of a single Greek philosopher or Enlightenment physicist. A country thats entire economy is founded on taking pieces of technology white men invented and pumping them out for as cheap a price as is possible. China will never rule the world as long their population is furnished with Chinese people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 06:15:33 No.13550550 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538416
China steals most of its technological advances from the U.S.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 09:38:35 No.13550872 Report

Quoted By:

>>13550440
What exactly is the reality that you want Europeans to except?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 09:47:50 No.13550889 Report

Quoted By: >>13550894

>>13547949
bruh he used encyclopaedias from other parts of the world as well. And the recent ones where authors tried to include every single womyn and BIPOC to not be racist give the same results as the older ones so there is hardly any Eurocentric bias. Did you even read that book or you just read the comments about it on anime imageobard that you just want to believe?

>>13548636
He probably has saved that review from Taleb on Amazon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 09:49:34 No.13550894 Report

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>>13550889
Oh the one with like 10 comments telling him he's wrong?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 09:52:09 No.13550901 Report

Quoted By: >>13550904

>>13547949
Dumb. Fuck.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 09:53:14 No.13550904 Report

Quoted By: >>13550911

>>13550901
>>13547949

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 09:56:16 No.13550911 Report

Quoted By: >>13550921

>>13550904
Why is it that east asia contributed so little?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 09:57:54 No.13550917 Report

Quoted By: >>13551062

>>13547949
He literally used sources specific to non-European parts of the world.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 10:00:56 No.13550921 Report

Quoted By:

>>13550911
Here is one explanation
> In particular, the variance in scientifi c achievement is explained by diff erences in inquisitiveness (DRD4 7-repeat), psychological stability (5HTTLPR long form), and individualism (mu-opioid receptor gene; OPRM1 G allele ). Northeast Asians tend to be lower in these psychological traits, which we argue are necessary for exceptional scientifi c accomplishments.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2466/04.17.CP.4.15

I also heard that their IQ distribution has lower SD so they have proportionately fewer people in 130+ IQ range than whites. But I haven't verified that myself so take it with grain of salt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 10:00:58 No.13550922 Report

Quoted By: >>13550937 >>13551047

>>13547949
so I looked up critiques of charles murray last night and this is one that came up.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/07/why-is-charles-murray-odious
they said it is bigoted and racist to claim that different races have different IQs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 10:08:51 No.13550937 Report

Quoted By:

>>13550922
Yeah all the critique against IQ, academic, scientific and technological achievement accomplishment by race/ethnicity boils down to "it's bad cuz racism and wypipo bad"

Doesn't matter, waste of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 10:59:54 No.13551047 Report

Quoted By: >>13551473

>>13550922
Is this guy for real? He first criticizes Murray for his methodology of assessing prominence based off of expert opinion as not being objective enough but then later complains that his favorite nigger jazz musicians weren't included. What was his methodology for compiling that list? Where is the objectivity in claiming that "black American music ... is the most astonishing periods of cultural accomplishment in the history of civilization"?

Does this guy has any self-awareness whatsoever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 11:07:17 No.13551062 Report

Quoted By: >>13551069

>>13550917
why cant you address any other part of his argument? oh because youre wrong thats why. the person you replied to had a lot of arguments as to why its a dumb info graphic even if all the information is legitimate. seriously data manipulation is like babbys first step into academia, you psueds who cant recognize it need to kys and leave this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 11:11:10 No.13551069 Report

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>>13551062
What arguments? That guy literally thinks Murray used inventories from Victorian era. He failed to explain how inclusions of post-1950 sources would increase share of non-whites and how he would deal with recency bias.
He is absolutely clueless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 11:18:54 No.13551084 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
>would've
Amd rich people will obviously select the smartest embryo errytime. Not bad, not bad at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 11:26:58 No.13551103 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
Please take a basic economic growth and development course. IQ has very little to do with China's growth in the past 30 years which has been piggybacked off the West.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 13:59:25 No.13551418 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538451
Altruism is delayed gratification. Delayed gratification is a sign of long term intelligence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 14:14:32 No.13551473 Report

Quoted By:

>>13551047
He has another article about how humans could live in a utopia if they were manatees,I can't tell if it's satire anymore
>Is a utopian pacifistic society possible? The lives of manatees show that it is possible to live without violence or the state. by. Nathan J. Robinson

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 21:24:42 No.13552789 Report

Quoted By:

>>13548997
Seethe schlomo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 22:20:09 No.13552937 Report

Quoted By:

>>13539727
Let me ask you a question
Do you still have your dick?
Go back to reddot and sing your establishment dogma to the choir over there, you retarded fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 22:31:33 No.13552960 Report

Quoted By: >>13553154 >>13553196 >>13554674

>>13539737
>muh automation
Imagine wanting to spend your old age like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4IFNKYmLa8

Nope, nothing can replace having a large family and grandchildren that will love and care for you. We only stray further and further from God's wisdom every day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 23:37:32 No.13553137 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
classic /sci/ miscrediting IQ to success.
>Look at what China can achieve with just a slightly higher average IQ than America
Even this statement is impossible to prove. What will make you even more mad is there's no quantifiable IQ difference between any two countries with proper controls kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 23:44:18 No.13553154 Report

Quoted By: >>13553184

>>13552960
This is funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 23:55:38 No.13553184 Report

Quoted By: >>13553196

>>13553154
It is, but when you think about it seriously for a moment it's actually terrifying and probably close to what being an elderly person in 2060 will be like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Aug 2021 23:59:40 No.13553196 Report

Quoted By:

>>13552960
>>13553184
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7349047/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 08:59:26 No.13554616 Report

Quoted By: >>13554626 >>13555733

>>13548763
Buddy. once the fertility rate is 1.6 it doesn't matter if there are families that have 4 or 10 kids. The population will be decreasing.

>>13548817
> I think fertility rates tend to crash when people live in modern urban environments,
Why do you think that? Urban centers are filled with migrants which you admitted have higher birth rates.

>e. Like we see the trend of wealthy europeans not having kids, and the same thing happens to refugees as they settle into a rich economy as well.
That's nice except "settling into rich economy" does not mean they will become wealthy and their fertility will go down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 09:04:52 No.13554626 Report

Quoted By:

>>13554616
the inner city migrants are exploiting the gibs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 09:12:35 No.13554637 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
you do realize that all the 100+ IQ stats from china are a CCP lie?
Chinas IQ was never measured by an outside entity. They skewed the results by only listing inner city scores which were people from higher education background and wealth - education can account for up to 5 points.
And wealth is associated with better genes aswell. If they had taken rural china into account the result would be around 95-100.

So every discussion based around 'superio' asian iq is total BS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 09:32:12 No.13554674 Report

Quoted By: >>13554714 >>13554871

>>13552960
did you even read the post you replied to? he was saying it's an argument in favour of automation of unpleasant jobs instead of taking in massive amounts of foreigners
fuck this board is stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 09:49:28 No.13554714 Report

Quoted By:

>>13554674
too many midwits, leftypol raids, chatbots, paid shills, and I fucking love science types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 11:44:13 No.13554871 Report

Quoted By: >>13554874

>>13554674
Labor shortages happen because people are not having kids, retard. Western countries are in demographic collapse, with below replacement fertility, and the two proposed solutions for that problem are:
1. Bring a shitload of immigrants that won't assimilate and which will cause all sorts of issues
2. Automation

I am saying that neither solution is attractive. Japan is going the automation path and it's depressing. Entire towns being abandoned due to lack of people. Elderly folk without families ending up on nursing homes, which are indeed getting automated.

The only solution is to get people to have kids again. Everything else is a form of collective suicide.

So yes, my reply is very pertinent to the discussion, fucktard. I'm sorry you are too much of a brainlet that needs these conclusions to be chewed and digested for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 11:46:05 No.13554874 Report

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>>13554871
the labour shortages were engineered just as the wars that displace the migrants were engineered and all for the same purpose.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 12:57:47 No.13555007 Report

Quoted By: >>13555658

>>13538328
This aesthetic is ugly as fuck though.
It's all about SOLARPUNK for the future of humanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 15:45:53 No.13555343 Report

Quoted By: >>13555643 >>13558163

>>13548599
i just hate of what this board has become, i just hate you,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 16:38:07 No.13555533 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538328
>command economy
>can’t invest out of state (more than 50k I think)
>only real venue of investment is real estate
>no freedom in politics or personal autonomy
>government has complete and utter rule to treat citizens like slaves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 16:41:21 No.13555541 Report

Quoted By: >>13555663

>>13538692
What does gdp % even mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 16:57:32 No.13555610 Report

Quoted By: >>13555663

>>13538692
I notice how the middle east falls off after the expansion of islam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:03:31 No.13555643 Report

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>>13555343
go back to the synagogue and login to plebbit

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Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:07:19 No.13555658 Report

Quoted By: >>13555720 >>13555730

>>13555007
what happens on a windy day when you live in a city with tall trees growing from 50th story balconies?
your homosexual soience fiction comic book fantasy might look pretty in pictures, but how well thought out is it?
modern cities are all on the decline as a result of excessive third world immigration, the soi comix fantasy isn't realistic, it would only be realistic if conditions in first world cities were improving currently and they aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:08:19 No.13555662 Report

Quoted By:

>>13550440
>You are gloating
>No I am not
>Well, the jews are gloating

Its all so tiring..............

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:08:20 No.13555663 Report

Quoted By: >>13555678

>>13555541
The region's GDP expressed as a percentage of world GDP.

>>13555610
Islam expanded in the 600s AD, reaching its maximum extension in 661 AD. I'd blame the decline more on the Mongols blowing them the fuck out and of more radical islamic schools turning their backs on science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:12:37 No.13555678 Report

Quoted By: >>13555690

>>13555663
Al gazali was around 1200 wasn't he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:15:31 No.13555690 Report

Quoted By:

>>13555678
1057 to 1111, fits almost perfectly with the onset of decline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:19:02 No.13555711 Report

Quoted By: >>13558175

>>13550405
>makes retarded claim about IQ tests in China with no sources
>posts an unironic /pol/ screenshot
fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:20:16 No.13555720 Report

Quoted By:

>>13555658
>what happens on a windy day when you live in a city with tall trees growing from 50th story balconies?
Nothing.
There is also nothing "science fiction" about just planting plants throughout a city and building buildings with the idea of having fauna weaved through it. It doesn't require any futuristic technology. I don't know what you're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:20:41 No.13555721 Report

Quoted By: >>13555727 >>13555729

>>13550405
>You do realize asian IQ is result of their governments allowing only the cream of the crop too be tested
Why would they do it? So they can look good on IQ maps shared on right wing forums?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:21:58 No.13555727 Report

Quoted By:

>>13555721
More importantly, what does he base his claim on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:22:31 No.13555729 Report

Quoted By: >>13555746

>>13555721
A lot of these "IQ studies" are extrapolated from educational assessments, it's not a surprise a totalitarian dictatorship like China would seek to hype up its education system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:22:33 No.13555730 Report

Quoted By: >>13555801

>>13555658
>what happens on a windy day when you live in a city with tall trees growing from 50th story balconies?
Nothing.
There is also nothing "science fiction" about just planting plants throughout a city and building buildings with the idea of having flora weaved through it. It doesn't require any futuristic technology. I don't understand your point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:22:55 No.13555733 Report

Quoted By: >>13555796 >>13556852

>>13554616
>Why do you think that? Urban centers are filled with migrants which you admitted have higher birth rates.

Right, so migrants have higher fertility, but a lot of our reason for thinking that is because they are fertile in their own countries, and they are still fertile for some period of time after they arrive. But after some time living in a modern society and enjoying the wealth that comes with living in a modern society their fertility crashes just like it did for all other modern people.

I am pretty sure the data is consistent with this. Like all countries have seen their fertility decline as they get wealthier. Black Americans have higher fertility in America, and they are poorer, and their fertility has been declining as they have been getting wealthier.

Just googling "migrant fertility rate", the first. article is this anti-immigration website arguing they have low fertility, lots of numbers in here: https://cis.org/Report/Immigrant-and-NativeBorn-Fertility-2008-2018

>once the fertility rate is 1.6 it doesn't matter if there are families that have 4 or 10 kids.
I guess it depends on what you care about. Amish people and mormons have like 4 kids per woman, and I think those people are cool so I look forward to the future Amish / Mormon dominance of America.

>does not mean they will become wealthy and their fertility will go down.
But it almost always does. Simply moving to a rich country and then doing the lowest paying job possible is usually a big income increase for many migrants.

I'll admit it is complicated, because maybe there is some upper limit to how much money they can make in a modern country, and maybe the modern country is so rewarding only because it didnt have migrants to begin with, but the simple first approximation story is that almost all the time when migrants move into a modern country they see huge income gains.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:24:55 No.13555746 Report

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>>13555729
Depends which book you look at and which country. Some figures are based on both IQ studies and PISA scores some only on PISA. East Asia is all based on both.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:33:03 No.13555796 Report

Quoted By: >>13556130

>>13555733
>But after some time living in a modern society and enjoying the wealth that comes with living in a modern society their fertility crashes just like it did for all other modern people.
What do you mean by "enjoying wealth"? Immigrants from the third world form a low income underclass. They might be richer than their counterparts back home but they are not "wealthy" by any means.

>Just googling "migrant fertility rate", the first. article is this anti-immigration website arguing they have low fertility, lots of numbers in here: https://cis.org/Report/Immigrant-and-NativeBorn-Fertility-2008-2018
This article shows that immigrant birth rate is 2.15 in 2018. This is above-replacement level.

Look, all this discussion above birth rates of migrants is useless. We already have demographic projections and non-whites will increase their share of population. Regardless of what you think happens with their fertility

https://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:34:04 No.13555801 Report

Quoted By: >>13555843

>>13555730
the point is that when a building is designed they do wind resitance analysis, and usually to reach reasonnable heights they dont place sails on the top, which is literraly what trees are in this case

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Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:46:15 No.13555841 Report

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>>13538525

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Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:47:41 No.13555843 Report

Quoted By:

>>13555801
Oh ok. So put trees closer to the ground and gardens and other forms of flora up the walls and at the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 17:47:44 No.13555844 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538451
>Altruism.
>implying

It's a doggy dog world out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 18:48:58 No.13556130 Report

Quoted By:

>>13555796
>They might be richer than their counterparts back home but they are not "wealthy" by any means.
"By any means"? Come on now..

Obviously I am not trying to say "They become wealthy, much like the guy from Monopoly(tm) is wealthy". They become much wealthier compared to their previous circumstance, and wealth and the society it comes with are generally crushing fertility. The process of them migrating puts them in the conditions that are lowering fertility for all people.

> 2.15
2.15 isnt all that high. Dont some people put replacement at like 2.2 anyway?

>We already have demographic projections and non-whites will increase their share of population. Regardless of what you think happens with their fertility
Right I am not trying to contradict that point that non-whites will grow demographically.

Where do you go from that? Usually this is some element in a political argument, so whats the political argument? That there should not be migration?

No one says this, but, if you were just trying to globally reduce the number of non-whites relative to whites, you need non-whites to modernize much like whites have so that their fertility rates go down. But I have never heard someone say "I want lots of white people relatively speaking, so lets bring in migrants so they stop having kids in their own countries".

I know all that sounds confusing. But I think some kind of similar confusion is going on in the heads of many anti-immigration people. Where they want some particular minimization of brown people in existing white countries. But for some reason they are indifferent about white population globally. Or white countries globally.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 18:50:52 No.13556143 Report

Quoted By: >>13556243 >>13556560 >>13561123 >>13561610

>>13538328
the future is african

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 18:51:48 No.13556146 Report

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>>13538328
high iq is indicative of the same things that make them successful

its not necessarily whats causing them to be succesful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 19:14:34 No.13556243 Report

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>>13556143
those charts don't even include the enormous populations of african emigrants currently living thought europe and the americas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 20:21:14 No.13556560 Report

Quoted By: >>13556669

>>13556143
fear mongering retardation, the majority of populations are declining or will decline much sooner than 2100

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 20:44:54 No.13556669 Report

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>>13556560
Major cope detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 21:17:31 No.13556852 Report

Quoted By: >>13556881

>>13555733
I have an interesting quote from a history book to hand let me type up a paragraph or two.
>Northwestern Europe also developed a distinctive pattern of marriage that contributed to high living standards and a broader sphere of personal independence than prevailed in many societies. Hajnal(1965) found that early-twentieth-century censuses showed two patterns of marriage in the world. East and south of a line fromSt Petersburg to Trieste, virtually all women married and many of them married in their teens. West and north of that linee, as many as one-fifth of women never marriedand most of those that did marry waited until their twenties. These tendencies were most pronounced in northwestern Europe. The first marriage pattern led to high fertility and low living standards. The second, which Hajnel called the european marriage pattern, implies a lower level of fertility and one that responded to economic conditions through shifts in ptoportions in the number of women marrying and the average age of women at first marriage. The Europeann marriage pattern implied a persistently higher standard of living for the mass of the population and that high standard facilitated savings and economic growth Jones (1981). Malthus believed that the standard of living of mos people was higher in England than in China because the English deferred marriage when incomes were low while the Chinese did not.
What explains the European patern?In a paper evocatively titled "Girl Power", De moor and van Zanden *2005)have traced it back to England and the Low Countries in the Late Middle Ages. While developments in religious doctrine that emphasised the role of personal (rather than family) choice of marriage partner played a background role, the decisive factor was the high wage economy following the Black Death. High wages and teh corresponding strong demand for labour meant that young people and - young women in particular -
continued.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 21:26:21 No.13556881 Report

Quoted By: >>13556923

>>13556852
>could support themselves apart from their parents andand control their lives lives and marriages. Women put off marriage until it suited them and they found the right partner. he wage declineof the sixteenth century threatened this independence, but the high wage economy of northwestern Europe guaranteed its existence >>13556852, and, indeed, marriages in that part of Europe were the most independent from parental influence and exhibited the characteristics of the European pattern most fully. We should not overestimate the freedom enjoyed by women in the eighteenth century. Nevertheless, the personal autonomy was promoted in the long run by the high wage economy.

>The British industrial revolution in global perspective by Robert C, Allen. page 13

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 2021 21:36:10 No.13556923 Report

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>>13556881
This is actually extremely bad news. It's no surprise that countries which did practice the European marriage pattern(most of western Europe) are overwhelmingly more educated, more intelligent and more economically developed than places which didn't. Importing migrants will depress wages and thus cause people to be more dependent on their parents, resulting in dysgenics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 02:45:17 No.13558158 Report

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>>13550452
So, you are suggesting that people simply stop caring about the general well-being of society because, at an individual level, there is nothing they can do?
That kind of hyper-individualism is one of the many reasons as to why the west is in a downard spiral as we speak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 02:46:49 No.13558163 Report

Quoted By:

>>13555343
You type like an obnoxious redditor, how about you fuck off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 02:49:08 No.13558175 Report

Quoted By:

>>13555711
>/pol/ derangement syndrome
The only one who needs to go back is you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 05:29:02 No.13558833 Report

Quoted By:

>>13538451
She's never going to beat the robot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 20:00:43 No.13560997 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 20:45:32 No.13561123 Report

Quoted By: >>13561160

>>13556143
Meanwhile the white european population (including North America) and the east asian population is projected to get halved by the end of this century.
Even India is projected to have like 30% decline.

I wonder how the world will look like by late 21st century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 20:53:04 No.13561160 Report

Quoted By: >>13561171 >>13561178

>>13561123
Dark, very dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 20:54:44 No.13561171 Report

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>>13561160
I don't think most of tech, infratructure and knowledge will last, civilisation will collapse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 20:56:28 No.13561178 Report

Quoted By: >>13561223

>>13561160
I don't think most of tech, infrastructure and knowledge will last, civilisation will collapse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 21:07:07 No.13561223 Report

Quoted By: >>13561258 >>13561260

>>13561178
You can't even type civilization properly, /pol/aroid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 21:19:45 No.13561258 Report

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>>13561223
It's British English Amerimutt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 21:20:47 No.13561260 Report

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>>13561223
And fuck off back to plebbit to worship niggers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 22:20:02 No.13561398 Report

Quoted By:

Others have already covered most of the big things.
Just gonna add that US whites are equal to Japan in terms of IQ.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 22:34:35 No.13561448 Report

Quoted By: >>13561484

>>13538328
This is the state of mental, psychological health in West, the future looks bleak.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 22:48:03 No.13561484 Report

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>>13561448

El Arcón

El Arcón Wed 25 Aug 2021 22:54:13 No.13561500 Report

Quoted By: >>13561505

What is the relationship between intelligence quotient and intelligence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 22:56:12 No.13561505 Report

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>>13561500
direct correlation

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 23:30:37 No.13561581 Report

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>>13538328
This is what it takes, on a global scale. Is there anyone based enough to attempt it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 23:36:04 No.13561594 Report

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>>13538328
>Look at what China can achieve with just a slightly higher average IQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 23:41:11 No.13561602 Report

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>>13538328
>¥0.01 has been deposited into your account.
Keep up the great work comrade Wu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 23:42:42 No.13561604 Report

Quoted By: >>13564386

>>13538328
>Look at what China can achieve with just a slightly higher average IQ than America.

Absolute 100% bullshit.
ANY stats China gives are complete lies.
China has peaked already and has started to decline.
China is growing older faster than it is getting richer and it has far too many old people in proportion to young people.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Aug 2021 23:44:53 No.13561610 Report

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>>13556143

The "great filter" is Africans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 03:40:52 No.13562487 Report

Quoted By: >>13563215 >>13563254 >>13563258

>>13550338
The european iq is 94.3, the sinic iq is 104. The fact is east aisan countries were ahead of europeana countries for about 5000 years. European iq gets inflated due to first world nutrition etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 03:44:11 No.13562504 Report

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>>13541438
The west had a spur of geographical luck that they found the americas, the polygenic iq of east aisans is higher thus pretty much all inventions from now on will come from china

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 08:17:17 No.13563215 Report

Quoted By: >>13563758

>>13562487
North western europeans are smarter than the rest, same as north east asians are

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 08:34:20 No.13563254 Report

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>>13562487
No it's not. You are just cheryypicking PGS charts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 08:36:09 No.13563258 Report

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>>13550087
>>13562487

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 11:02:59 No.13563758 Report

Quoted By: >>13564890

>>13563215
This is bullshit, Italians have consistently scored with some of the highest IQs in Europe in most datasets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 14:24:59 No.13564386 Report

Quoted By:

>>13561604
Cope harder, shart

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 16:14:13 No.13564890 Report

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>>13563758
Northern Italians are lombardy germanics aren't they?

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