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transhumanism/conciousness studies and cosmology is driving my insane

Anonymous Fri 13 Aug 13:53:38 2021 No.13513543 View Reply Original Report

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this post will be a bit messy,ill make a list of the stuff im reading now and explain why im losing my sanity.
>block universe, eternal inflation(multiverses),poincare recurrence implies eternal repetition, open and empty individualism, phsycalism implies eternalism and panphsycism.,

>Insect sentience,bacterial humanity,microscropic beings sentience,hedonistic imperative, negative utilatarianism,effective altruis, anti-natalism

now, i know these things can be true all at the same time, but at least couple must be true.Am I quantum immortal?is conciousness eternal? is there any eternal oblivion after death?is it temporary,after which ill be botlzmnnian-ly immortal?

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Anonymous Fri 13 Aug 2021 18:30:25 No.13514763 Report

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bumping for interesting thread

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Anonymous Fri 13 Aug 2021 18:33:29 No.13514775 Report

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>>13513543
No. You are not immortal.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Aug 2021 18:39:33 No.13514802 Report

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Oblivion is a concept that requires an observer. You will not be there to observe. Your brain replaces tons of atoms daily. You are pretty much a new ship of theseus every decade or so. Don't worry anon, it's not going to be scary. It's not going to be anything. Just... No more.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Aug 2021 18:57:23 No.13514865 Report

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Take start meditating, take psychadelics, and learn to lucid dream. Nobody knows shit about consciousness and they can't infer its properties only by observing physical processes.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Aug 2021 19:48:37 No.13515068 Report

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The questions you’re asking are arguably outside the scope of science, since they regard the subjective aspect consciousness, which can’t be scientifically proven to exist to begin with (although we all experience it and can use reasoning to deduct that other people experience it). But it’s an interesting topic nonetheless.
The first thing to understand is that there’s not really a continuous “you”. As another anon pointed out you’re a ship of theseus, constantly undergoing change. The only thing that really exists is your present conscious state. Your memories trick you into thinking that yesterday’s you is the same you as today, but that’s just a story you tell yourself.
Second off, the idea that you’re somehow distinct from the environment, that the surface of your skin is where “you” ends and “the other” begins, is also an illusion.
Our fear of being dead stems from the unconscious belief in two contradictory ideas: dualism and materialism. Dualism says there’s a distinct “self” that transcends the physical changes of your body and environment over time. When you add in materialism, you end up thinking that “you” will continue until death, at which point “you” will experience a black void of emptiness. But there’s no “you” to experience the black void, and there’s no black void to experience. In a sense you die and are reborn in every waking moment, and this process carries on uninterrupted after death, and the experience of consciousness is transformed.
Consciousness cannot experience it’s own nonexistence, by definition. Open individualism is the only theory of consciousness that has logical consistency.

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