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Why isn't /sci/ worried about covid vaccine ADE?

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 11:48:52 2021 No.13493669 View Reply Original Report

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Is it just a /pol/ meme? Do we have any evidence it's not a risk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 11:49:58 No.13493670 Report

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>>13493669
Pol meme, simple as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 12:34:10 No.13493774 Report

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>>13493669
We are but at this point the i fuckin love science!!! crowd has gone all in on the mrna vaccines, and media and social media is actively sensoring and burying vaccine side effect stories so we will probably not be aware of actual ADE events for years.
Its all so tiresome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 12:39:19 No.13493785 Report

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>>13493669
Not gonna happen with the mRNA vaccines but a whole load of other crap might. I'm not getting clotshot. Already had sars-2 it's not a nothing burger but i had worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 12:40:51 No.13493791 Report

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>ctrl-f "vacc"

1. I'm not taking the vaccine
2. I don't go outside
3. I don't care if NPCs die from the vaxx or from the virus

Simple as

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 12:55:57 No.13493840 Report

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>>13493669
>Why isn't /sci/ worried

We didn't take the experimental "vaccine"?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:07:43 No.13493872 Report

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>>13493669
>>13493669
Bc i didnt take the vaccine.
I got covid. It was nothing. 99% of the people i witnessed it kill were sick as fuck already. Blacks with uncontrolled type 2 diabetes, missing limbs, uncontrolled heart failure, fat white pigs who then went on TV and claimed they were healthy before, and the elderly and infirm from nursing homes who were probably glad to die bc their kids stopped visiting amd so they wouldn't be beaten by tyrone and laquisha at the nursing home anymore.
>M.D
My hospital might mandate it but I've been itching to return to private practice anyway, if i have to sit through another diversity/tranny lecture i may just start shooting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:20:20 No.13493898 Report

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>>13493872
Since you're an authority on this, what should our response to covid have been? Do you believe, since it's "nothing", that we should have ignored it the entire time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:22:51 No.13493908 Report

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>>13493669
>we
Who's "WE", /pol/tard?
Why can't you fuckers just stick to your own board, and not shit up /sci/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:23:54 No.13493913 Report

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>>13493774
Is there an ADE risk for viral vector and inactive virus vaccines or just mRNA?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:24:45 No.13493915 Report

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>>13493785
>I'm not getting clotshot.
Apparent retard.
> Already had sars-2 it's not a nothing burger but i had worse
Confirmed retard.
I hope your handlers don't trust you with the sharp scissors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:32:28 No.13493940 Report

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>>13493669
of course it's a risk op. just like covid is a risk. you've got to choose between having the virus in your body or having the virus spike protein in your body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:33:30 No.13493946 Report

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>>13493669
It’s a plausible scenario, even SAGE admits as such. However there is no solid evidence to indicate that it is genuinely happening, so it’s just a worst-case hypothesis at present. ADE can even happen without vaccines, but I don’t think we need to be too concerned about covid either way because it’s already gone through so many mutations without the fatality rate going up.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:42:05 No.13493982 Report

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>>13493898
We should have been focused on treatment. Not prevention. Its a fucking VIRUS. No vaccine can stop it. No vaccine could ever stop it.
>vaccine prevents hospitalization!
It can and will mutate right past any and alk vaccines a la the flu. Its a virus. Its what they do.
Anyone with a brain knew how this would end - with endless shots and vast wealth to be made. I've invested in pharmaceutical companies and you should too. Covid isnt going anywhere for a decade.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:50:10 No.13494026 Report

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>>13493982
>We should have been focused on treatment. Not prevention. Its a fucking VIRUS. No vaccine can stop it. No vaccine could ever stop it.
That's backwards.
Vaccines are the only effective tool we have for fighting viruses.

>Covid isnt going anywhere for a decade.
Only because of shitbags like you.
Species traitor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:52:35 No.13494034 Report

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>>13493669
If the vaccine sterilizes everyone I will unironically be thrilled that those in power finally decided to address overpopulation, would be a big improvement over the present state of complete inaction on overshoot and collapse. /pol/s nightmare is an improvement, I wish our governments were that competent and ambitious.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:58:36 No.13494053 Report

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>>13494026
Enjoy your 16% immunity
You will get covid
You will get the shot
You will be happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:59:01 No.13494055 Report

Quoted By: >>13494072 >>13494081 >>13494933

>>13493913
https://www.jimmunol.org/content/181/9/6337.long

here is the study, they saw that using a viral vector expressing the nucleocapsid protein of sars-cov to vaccinate mice caused them to develop pneumonia after challenge with the virus. Instead if the spike protein was expressed by the viral vector they observed protection against the infection and no pneumonia.
Because of this the decided to use m-RNA and viral vector vaccines that express only the spike protein.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 13:59:56 No.13494060 Report

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>>13494053
>>13493982
based right-wing schizo doctor. You are going to make it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:00:29 No.13494064 Report

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>>13494034
Completely agree.
Sadly trump rushed a vaccine out because he was desparate to get re elected and his political opponents get wealthier the worse / more endemic the virus gets.
No depopulation is on the cards. Bill gates was based but ultimately not based enough.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:01:40 No.13494065 Report

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>>13494053

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:02:40 No.13494072 Report

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>>13494055
Good read thanks anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:04:11 No.13494081 Report

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>>13494055
Instead the Chinese have used inactive whole virus, more than 1 billion doses, they are still using it so probably they did not see a significative ADE effect from it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:04:44 No.13494084 Report

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>>13494065
>vaccine getting more useless by the day
>'prevents hospitalizations' for a virus that most people never needed to be hospitalized for in the first place
>breakthrough infections
>booster shots in perpetuity

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:08:18 No.13494101 Report

Quoted By: >>13494285

>>13494065

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:08:32 No.13494102 Report

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>>13493940
So people who had covid don't need to get vaxxed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:09:54 No.13494109 Report

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>>13493669
it's a poltard maymay

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:10:38 No.13494114 Report

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>>13494081
How come the west still is absorbed in mrna faggotry (its efficacy collapses over time) and not shilling the inactivated virus vaccines? Do they even have them?
>yes i live in a shithole country

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:20:52 No.13494156 Report

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>>13494114
That is the funniest part about this clown show. Despite covid supposedly being a big deal, western countries still care more about geopolitical dick measuring contests than doing everything they can to fight the virus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:41:27 No.13494229 Report

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>>13493669
Im more worried about original antigenic sin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:43:30 No.13494236 Report

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>>13493669
>Why isn't /sci/ worried about covid vaccine ADE?
No studies for the COVID vaccines. Podcasts don't count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 14:52:19 No.13494285 Report

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>>13494101
The biggest killers to vaccine communication were early white lies, woke double standards with regard to gatherings, masking hypocrisy on the part of politicians, and short-sighted political comments from Democrats (including Kamala) about not trusting the vaccines.
The American right is mostly a bunch of Qoomer-tier dumbasses, but it's hard to blame them here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 15:50:24 No.13494503 Report

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>>13494102
people who got covid may have antibodies against the spike protein or/and against other random proteins in the virus structure. this means they are protected, but we don't know how long or the degree of protection, as opposed to the vaccines where we have more info about the degree and the length of protection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 16:02:01 No.13494542 Report

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>>13494285
How about the fact that vaccines are obviously not a winning strategy and the ability for people who aren’t stupid to recognize that covid cannot feasibly be eradicated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 16:17:50 No.13494601 Report

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>>13493669
because there's no proof of ADE associated with SARS-CoV-2.
there are instead proofs of the efficiency of the vaccine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 16:19:02 No.13494608 Report

Quoted By: >>13494619 >>13495285

>>13493774
>We are
speak for yourself brainded poltard. this is not your heckin secret club. fuck off and never post here again your chud nonsense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 16:21:20 No.13494619 Report

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>>13494608
ywnbam

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 16:25:30 No.13494637 Report

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>>13493774
>and media and social media is actively sensoring and burying vaccine side effect stories so we will probably not be aware of actual ADE events for years.
or you could look up the weekly mortality rate of one of the dozens of countries that is at least 50% fully vaccinated and see if there's an excess in deaths compared to the past decade

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 16:33:41 No.13494663 Report

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>>13494619
you wrote it incorrectly retard

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 17:22:30 No.13494839 Report

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>>13493669
It's a risk if you are in the UK. It's not a risk if you are American. I am not sure about other countries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 17:26:28 No.13494849 Report

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>>13494034
>>13494064
Ah, finally some other people who realized the idea of an overall organized conspiracy is a giant, perhaps final, cope by Westerners (a-at least malacious people are in charge in the background! There is no way our governments are just retarded and no one is flying the plane!)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 17:26:30 No.13494850 Report

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>>13494839
you are retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 17:30:20 No.13494867 Report

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>>13494663
I'm sure he is correct. You will never be a man, you are onions. Lanklet with feminine clothes who wears skinny jeans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 17:35:51 No.13494895 Report

Quoted By: >>13495355

>>13494285
>The American right is mostly a bunch of Qoomer-tier dumbasses, but it's hard to blame them here.
This is a trend I noticed, the American right acts retarded, but then it is like a sphere of stupidity surrounds them which engulfs anyone trying to "own" them.
What is it about America that makes everyone act like the most retarded versions of themselves?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 17:46:02 No.13494933 Report

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>>13494055
Nuclocapsids are a terrible target
Viral rna/dna literally migrate inside them
How does not doing a stupid thing make another thing smart

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Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 19:01:53 No.13495285 Report

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>>13494608
>pol
>chud
You aren't fooling anyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 19:13:43 No.13495355 Report

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>>13494895
Well, the thing that made me switch off politics was what I like to call 'sadistic hypocrisy'. Hypocrisy has always been a thing in both left and right politics, but usually people would realize how odious hypocrisy is and try to rationalize it. Well, over the last few years, I've noticed on the blue-check left a disturbing trend toward enjoying how repulsive their opponents find hypocrisy. It's as though hypocrisy is the point, the means of pissing off the opposition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Aug 2021 19:18:10 No.13495388 Report

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>>13494026
Vaccines only work when the virus:
>Has no animal reservoirs
>Has a low mutation rate
In combination with good hygiene practices to minimise transmission.

Coronaviruses are RNA viruses and are prone to mutations, and have animal reservoirs.
It's not going anywhere, best we can hope for is to just minimise transmission and allow evolution to take it into common cold territory of virulence

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