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COVID Recovered = Vaccinated

Anonymous Sun 25 Jul 23:05:39 2021 No.13435779 View Reply Original Report

This has never been challenged scientifically.

COVID recovered people OBVIOUSLY have developed their own comprehensive immune response and memory of the virus and should absolutely NOT be pressed to accept an obsolete and experimental injection for an extinct early Wuhan spike protein. There's not a single rational reason for the tens of millions of COVID convalescents to even consider the experimental injection regime.

Injection Stakeholders and their useful idiots and unpaid volunteers are welcome to respond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jul 2021 23:12:22 No.13435800 Report

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>>13435779
What in the fuck am Iooking at here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jul 2021 23:32:48 No.13435868 Report

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>>13435800

Members of the faith known as the Branch Covidians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Jul 2021 23:48:43 No.13435911 Report

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>>13435868
>>13435779
Go back to pol, incel.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 00:29:08 No.13436009 Report

Quoted By: >>13436630 >>13441956 >>13442500

>>13435911

A wild Covidian appears!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 00:31:27 No.13436020 Report

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>>13435779
>COVID recovered people OBVIOUSLY have developed their own comprehensive immune response and memory of the virus
OBVIOUSLY not true. Not everyone develops long last antibody responses. Reinfections do happen.

>There's not a single rational reason for the tens of millions of COVID convalescents to even consider the experimental injection regime.
1. Vaccination after a natural infection leads to greater immunity.

There you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 00:34:59 No.13436029 Report

Quoted By: >>13436057 >>13443973

>>13435779
The official line is that the injections help fight off all variants but a covid infection only provides immunity to the variant you contracted. I've yet to see any proof of this and so far it appear that the injections don't do a very good job with the variants though if you get a booster specific to each variant, maybe then it would be true.
So far there's no evidence that natural immunity from having had covid goes away but that can only be determined over time. We only know right now that no reduction in immunity has been seen so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 00:42:52 No.13436047 Report

Quoted By: >>13436067

>>13436020
>Reinfections do happen.

Not an argument because the vaccinated get infected without any barriers.

>1. Vaccination after a natural infection leads to greater immunity.

Simply impossible because natural immunity has a memory of the whole pathogen, not just a small component of it. A component which happens to be the most mutagenic and getting the current injections means introducing an extinct spike signature from the early Wuhan variant which no longer exists.

You've given me no reason to consider the injections. Next please? Can I get one of the injection Stakeholders with some science credentials to try an convince me?

OP Mon 26 Jul 2021 00:48:11 No.13436057 Report

Quoted By: >>13436636 >>13439711

>>13436029
>I've yet to see any proof of this and so far it appear that the injections don't do a very good job with the variants

Not only that, but running a massive immunization effort directly INTO a pandemic will have the obvious and already observed effect of stimulating the creation of a whole new range of mutants.

I think the retarded governments will simply have to admit to treating this like the annual influenza with a barely effective "booster" for each year, and call it a day.

The lethality of this virus has been within "bad influenza" levels of mortality, averaged around 0.03%.
Sweden was right all along.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 00:53:47 No.13436067 Report

Quoted By: >>13444968

>>13436047
>Not an argument because the vaccinated get infected without any barriers.
It is an argument because clearly natural immunity isn't always sufficient despite your argument to the contrary. Those who failed to develop a strong antibody response from the initial infection were most prone to reinfection within the next several months. Vaccination would reduce the risk by improving immune memory.

>Simply impossible because natural immunity has a memory of the whole pathogen
So what? That happens with many viruses, it doesn't guarantee an efficacious long term immune response.

>A component which happens to be the most mutagenic
Source? The N Protein is mutating as well, it just hasn't been a focus because the S Protein is what the vaccines target. In fact, N Protein antibodies fall much faster than S Protein antibodies. It appears that whether exposed to the actual virus or a vaccine, the immune system is favoring a response to the S Protein.

>and getting the current injections means introducing an extinct spike signature from the early Wuhan variant which no longer exists.
And the antibodies produced in people who were exposed to the Wuhan version bind poorly to the Delta version.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 01:26:22 No.13436131 Report

Quoted By: >>13436156 >>13438223

Someone explain the case of John Rahm to me:
>golf player
>positive PCR
>no symptoms
>gets the vaxx shortly after "clearing"
>goes to the Tokyo olympics
>positive PCR
>still no symptoms
>disqualified for COVID

Sauce:
>https://eu.azcentral.com/story/sports/olympics/2021/07/25/jon-rahm-tests-positive-covid-19-again-out-tokyo-olympics/8087843002/

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 01:38:57 No.13436156 Report

Quoted By: >>13436176 >>13450532

>>13436131
>Someone explain the case of John Rahm to me:
Interesting case. Failed the PCR three times before the Olympics, so it's not likely a false positive. Also, a slight correction, it said he had mild symptoms the first time. I'd love to know in this type of situation if he's actually contagious, or if the virus simply managed to sneak into a few cells and replicate, but not significantly enough to actually be a threat to himself or anyone else. I could see a PCR test detecting a few thousand viral particles, whereas a true infection would mean hundreds of millions of viral particles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 01:52:35 No.13436176 Report

Quoted By: >>13436285

>>13436156
I'd suspect the PCR kits. I know he got multiple PCRs, but what if they were all the same brand?
It wont be unheard of:
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/30/uks-attempt-ramp-coronavirus-testing-hindered-key-components/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 02:41:23 No.13436285 Report

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>>13436176
Maybe, they could run a different style of test, rapid antigen or something. I mean a young, healthy guy that tested positive two months prior AND was vaccinated afterward? If I were a scientist, I'd want to get to the bottom of what's going on.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 05:17:36 No.13436630 Report

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>>13435868
>>13436009
kek

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 05:20:52 No.13436636 Report

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>>13436057
Of course.
Disturbing how susceptible the clowns running most of the west are to peer pressure and herd mentality, in particular the ones in Australia

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 05:21:15 No.13436638 Report

Quoted By: >>13437741

>>13435779
you certainly dont need two
might consider getting one just for a more well rounded immune response

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 12:48:26 No.13437741 Report

Quoted By: >>13438233

>>13436638

Why? What advantage does getting an extinct spike protein provide?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 12:50:57 No.13437747 Report

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>>13435779
Everyone who isn't a kike develops immunity against it. And it seems to be better than injecting yourself with untested stuff against a flu to please jews.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:31:20 No.13438223 Report

Quoted By: >>13461351

>>13436131
Simple. He had the flu and PCR can’t tell the difference
>https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:32:34 No.13438227 Report

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>>13435800
The new normal

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:33:47 No.13438233 Report

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>>13437741
You'll get hassled less if you have the magic injection paper to show everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:35:39 No.13438237 Report

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>>13438233
PAPERS PLEASE!

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 17:13:50 No.13438484 Report

Quoted By: >>13438588 >>13439732 >>13442746 >>13442747

>>13438233
>>13438237

I have my COVID positive test result done by the government which I've saved and printed which shows the exact date of the test and my health card and personal info, which I intent to use as my immunity passport.

Injectionfags can get fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 17:49:24 No.13438588 Report

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>>13438484
Good luck when they change the rules again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 01:26:38 No.13439703 Report

Quoted By: >>13439790

>>13435779
Given that vaccine effectiveness is 95% at best (Pfizer, Moderna) and 65% at worst (Sinovac, AstraZeneca) and reinfection cases are extremely rare, I'd argue that COVID Recovered >>> Vaccinated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 01:30:20 No.13439711 Report

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>>13436057
Mutants could actually end up dangerous eventually though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 01:36:39 No.13439732 Report

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>>13438484
It was never about logic anon, you already know this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 01:38:48 No.13439740 Report

Quoted By: >>13439966 >>13442248

>>13435779
Bros I had covid over a year ago (start of June 2020), and recently got an antibody test that came back negative.

Does this mean I could get reinfected and possibly develop severe symptoms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 01:55:58 No.13439790 Report

Quoted By: >>13439839

>>13439703
>and reinfection cases are extremely rare,
Prior infection was shown to be about 80% effective at preventing reinfection, no better than the mRNA vaccines. The USA just quit investigating reinfections unless they resulted in a hospitalization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 02:11:21 No.13439828 Report

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>obsolete and experimental
You guys are getting wilder by the minute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 02:15:46 No.13439839 Report

Quoted By: >>13441860

>>13439790
Just did a quick google search. Are you referring to this study?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33718968/
It only used PCR. This one used antibody+PCR and they got 95%. Sample size is bigger too.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33937733/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 03:28:08 No.13439966 Report

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>>13439740
Immunity is more than just serum antibodies floating around. You have B cells that produce antibodies when they see covid antigens.

The Covid 19 Response by World Leaders has been a FAILURE OF CIVILISATION.

The Covid 19 Response by World Leaders has been a FAILURE OF CIVILISATION. Tue 27 Jul 2021 09:27:36 No.13440612 Report

Quoted By: >>13451029

>>13435779
This is the joke, Vacines issued a year after the outbreak, masks proven to do nothing to prevent the spread.
Most people have already developed immunity.
So are probably more healthy than the vacinated.

The Covid 19 Response by World Leaders has been a FAILURE OF CIVILISATION.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 18:06:55 No.13441860 Report

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>>13439839
No, I was looking at the numerous studies using health care workers which checked for antibodies before the start of the studies. Protection granted from mRNA or previous infection was basically the same. To be fair, all of them took place before the delta variant was a major issue, but the same is true for the study you provided. I don't know how that will affect things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 18:09:21 No.13441871 Report

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>>13438233
Why would you keep it in a wallet? Wear it on an armband so everyone knows you're one of the good guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 18:30:37 No.13441956 Report

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>>13436009
IRL trolling rarely gets the credit it deserves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:47:41 No.13442217 Report

Quoted By: >>13442292

>>13435779
i recovered from covid and then caught it again 8 months later. natural immunity may not be sufficient or lasting in some people, or possibly many people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:56:23 No.13442248 Report

Quoted By: >>13442261

>>13439740
>Does this mean I could get reinfected and possibly develop severe symptoms.

No, because the immune system has memory of the virus, unlike the crappy "vaccine" immunity which only immunizes against a small part of the virus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 19:59:29 No.13442261 Report

Quoted By: >>13442279

>>13442248
Can you explain why memory of the entire virus is supposedly good and memory of a portion of the virus is bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 20:03:13 No.13442279 Report

Quoted By: >>13442282 >>13459012

>>13442261
Can you explain why memory of a portion of the virus is better than memory of the entire virus, or why it is exactly as good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 20:04:41 No.13442282 Report

Quoted By: >>13442727

>>13442279
In other words, you can't back your position, so you're avoiding answering.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 20:08:43 No.13442292 Report

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>>13442217
>i recovered from covid and then caught it again 8 months later.

Low IQ. You didn't get sick 2 weeks later, or 2 months later, but 8 MONTHS.
And you didn't die. Which means the immune system is working pretty fucking well if you ask me. No need for magic injections.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 20:21:33 No.13442326 Report

Quoted By: >>13442333 >>13442483

Study after study, is showing proof natural infection is significantly better than the vaccine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 20:25:07 No.13442333 Report

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>>13442326
The fact that a study is even needed to prove this to people for this shows how fucking bananas the world has gone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 21:13:23 No.13442483 Report

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>>13442326
That first study...

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00141-3/fulltext
Ended in December, 2020. The method of verification was a swab based on symptoms only. Also, 314 people tested positive, but they decided not to include 185 of them (would have raised the incident rate to 1.6). The follow-up period was 16 weeks, not 7-months.

Second study:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.25.21261093v1.full.pdf
Ended June, 2021. No exclusions if there was a positive PCR compared to the first study.

The fact that a vaccine + prior infection still rated lower than prior infection only should tell you that something is wrong. The different time frames (the first took place before the more contagious variants were an issue), plus the stringency in identifying re-infection in the first study whereas all cases were counted in the second, should tell you that these studies aren't a good comparison.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 21:14:08 No.13442488 Report

Quoted By: >>13442514 >>13451355

>>13435779
people make mistake but vaccine *doesn't* simulate the exact same thing as natural infection.
when you get a natural infection, believe it or not, one of the more important parameters that determines the severity of outcome is the amount of viral load you were exposed to. so (for average healthy person) if you receive small amount of virus, your symptoms will be milder because your body has time to react before virus multiplies to high levels. on the other hand because you just had a trivial infection, the immune response was lower and you're left with less preparation for the next round.

vaccines on the other hand simulate very severe infection in regards to viral load, and on top of that you receive 2 shots.
now if you were hospitalized into an intensive care from covid twice, than no doubt you'll have a better immunity than from vaccines, but i seriously doubt that's the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 21:17:30 No.13442500 Report

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>>13436009
basado

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 21:22:34 No.13442514 Report

Quoted By: >>13442559

>>13442488
Not for Covid, the antigen expression in the respiratory system is different than for the dendritic cells the vaccine targets. Thus, you have a situation where the vaccine can only protect you from severe infection, but not from getting the virus. This explains exactly what is happening with the vaccines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 21:34:04 No.13442559 Report

Quoted By: >>13442635 >>13445016 >>13450553

>>13442514
i'm not 100% sure what you're saying but if you're referring to ability of mutant strains to evade vaccine that's true and expected.
inactivated virus vaccines like chinese sinopharm or usa/french valneva should theoretically be harder to evade but are also harder to provoke heavy immune response no matter the adjuvant.

and sure, natural virus recognition is superior, but comes at such terrible price nobody should consider it an alternative to vaccination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 21:56:28 No.13442635 Report

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>>13442559
The issue is that different vaccines need to be designed targeting both. One as perhaps a nasal spray, and the other an injection. However, I fear that these current vaccines are being shilled so hard, they negate the chance of improved ones coming to market in the future.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 22:36:57 No.13442727 Report

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>>13442282
>In other words, you can't back your position, so you're avoiding answering.

There was a similar thread last night which got nuked and a well-read anon actually had a very solid answer, I can only repeat from memory that it has something to do with stable proteins on the live virus being recognized by our immune system.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 22:43:44 No.13442746 Report

Quoted By: >>13442747 >>13454758

>>13438484

Pic related my COVID immunity passport.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 22:44:52 No.13442747 Report

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>>13438484
>>13442746
sorry about that loss of grey matter anon

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 22:46:58 No.13442754 Report

Quoted By: >>13442761

>>13442747

Injectionfags seething.
Isn't it that time of day where you need to see to your female hygiene routine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 22:50:11 No.13442761 Report

Quoted By: >>13442792

>>13442754
i'll eat a brick of swiss and pay my respects to your brain when i go to shit it out
good luck remembering how to articulate why you're immune
hope they don't make you wear a helmet

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 23:01:00 No.13442792 Report

Quoted By: >>13442873

>>13442761

You injectionfags are getting desperate.
Since we're making things up on the spot, the experimental injection is known to cause rectal hallucinations and "phantom hand" syndrome, and "brain tooth" which would also explain your mental debility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 23:37:50 No.13442873 Report

Quoted By: >>13442881 >>13442913 >>13442934 >>13442935 >>13450566 >>13452168

>>13442792
>Since we're making things up on the spot
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00324-2/fulltext

People who had recovered from COVID-19, including those no longer reporting symptoms, exhibited significant cognitive deficits versus controls when controlling for age, gender, education level, income, racial-ethnic group, pre-existing medical disorders, tiredness, depression and anxiety. The deficits were of substantial effect size for people who had been hospitalised (N = 192), but also for non-hospitalised cases who had biological confirmation of COVID-19 infection (N = 326). Analysing markers of premorbid intelligence did not support these differences being present prior to infection. Finer grained analysis of performance across sub-tests supported the hypothesis that COVID-19 has a multi-domain impact on human cognition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 23:38:52 No.13442881 Report

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>>13442873
In summary, either COVID-19 makes people stupid, or stupid people are more prone to being infected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 23:48:58 No.13442913 Report

Quoted By: >>13442920 >>13442951 >>13450572

>>13442873

>The Lancet
Known to publish unverified hoaxes. Rejected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jul 2021 23:55:07 No.13442920 Report

Quoted By: >>13442945

>>13442913
stick to (((/pol/))) brainiac

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:01:24 No.13442934 Report

Quoted By: >>13442937

>>13442873
Has there ever been a study like this with the flu rather than covid?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:01:59 No.13442935 Report

Quoted By: >>13442951

>>13442873

But the injection doesn't prevent you from getting a COVID infection and carrying enough viral load to spread it, lmao.

Thank you for confirming the injections are not needed.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:04:01 No.13442937 Report

Quoted By: >>13442954

>>13442934
>Has there ever been a study like this with the flu rather than covid?

Strange isn't it. As soon as the injection regime is questioned, they have a (((study))) ready to deploy, which is basically statistical noise but which threatens you with mindrot if you don't take the magic injections....

Hmmmmm, how very strange. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM Why haven't they done one for AIDS or Hepatitis B?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:06:19 No.13442942 Report

Quoted By: >>13442948

natural immunity is pretty good if you live to flaunt it. getting my vax soon boys.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:08:51 No.13442945 Report

Quoted By: >>13443258 >>13445024 >>13450613

>>13442920

Lancet has discredited themselves by posting literal disinformation garbage to support the injection narrative. If you were in the academic medical field, you would have heard of it, but you're just a masturbating anonymous idiot.

>https://www.the-scientist.com/features/the-surgisphere-scandal-what-went-wrong--67955

>At the heart of the deception was a paper published in The Lancet on May 22 that suggested hydroxychloroquine, an antimalarial drug promoted by US President Donald Trump and others as a therapy for COVID-19, was associated with an increased risk of death in patients hospitalized with the disease. The study wasn’t a randomized controlled trial—the gold standard for determining a drug’s safety and efficacy—but it did purportedly draw from an enormous registry of observational data that Surgisphere claimed to have collected from the electronic medical records of nearly 100,000 COVID-19 patients across 671 hospitals on six continents.

So now that we've determined the Lancet is manipulated or even directed by the experimental injection stakeholders, we can continue debunking the mere need for the immunization program.

Having had COVID with almost no symptoms, I would recommend acquiring the live SARS-COV2 virus as the best immunization against current and future mutants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:10:05 No.13442948 Report

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>>13442942
>natural immunity is pretty good if you live to flaunt it. getting my vax soon boys.

Are you 97 years old? You still have a 94-96+ chance of surviving if you're over 85 years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:12:56 No.13442951 Report

Quoted By: >>13442957 >>13442963

>>13442913
Perhaps you'd like a study from a different journal showing the fucked up brains of macaques?

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.23.432474v1.full

>>13442935
>But the injection
I didn't mention the injection. I'm saying that anon has COVID-19 and will end up with brain damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:15:13 No.13442954 Report

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>>13442937
>HMMMMMMMMMMMMM Why haven't they done one for AIDS or Hepatitis B?
An anon said he was infected with SARS-CoV-2. Are you saying you have AIDS? Common sense should tell you that was pretty fucking stupid to get infected with HIV, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:16:20 No.13442957 Report

Quoted By: >>13442960

>>13442951

Do you have similar studies showing brain damage from SARS-1?
Or influenza? Or AIDs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:17:34 No.13442960 Report

Quoted By: >>13442966

>>13442957
They probably do cause brain damage. Are you planning on getting AIDS? Why would you do that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:18:59 No.13442963 Report

Quoted By: >>13442968 >>13443200 >>13450671

>>13442951
>I didn't mention the injection. I'm saying that anon has COVID-19 and will end up with brain damage.

What you said is everyone (including injected and non-injected) will have brain damage because everyone will catch COVID at some point just like most people get the cold.

Why is there no evidence of brain damage among hundreds of millions people who have had COVID? Fake narrative is fake as fuck and failing badly.

There's no need for injections.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:20:14 No.13442966 Report

Quoted By: >>13442974

>>13442960
>They probably do cause brain damage.

How can we know you don't have brain damage and trust what you say? You've probably had COVID and maybe even AIDS.

If you take a PCR test for any one of those, there is a non-trivial probability you can test positive for Dengue fever, AIDs or SARS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:21:48 No.13442968 Report

Quoted By: >>13442979

>>13442963
>Why is there no evidence of brain damage among hundreds of millions people who have had COVID?
If by no evidence you mean there's a lot of evidence, then I totally agree. Brain inflammation, loss of intelligence, decreased working memory, other neurological symptoms (loss of smell, hearing loss, etc)...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:23:14 No.13442974 Report

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>>13442966
>You've probably had COVID
I've had multiple antibody tests, negative each time. Also had an STD panel in the past, nothing. Nope, my intelligence is intact.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:24:09 No.13442979 Report

Quoted By: >>13442983 >>13451381

>>13442968
>f by no evidence you mean there's a lot of evidence, then I totally agree. Brain inflammation, loss of intelligence, decreased working memory, other neurological symptoms (loss of smell, hearing loss, etc)...

So what's the purpose of the experimental mass injection program (which does not prevent getting a COVID infection and all of the resulting symptoms)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:26:10 No.13442983 Report

Quoted By: >>13443012

>>13442979
>So what's the purpose of the experimental mass injection program
Why do you keep bringing this up? I'm not vaccinated and don't care if anyone else is. I'm just saying, the anon in this thread now has brain damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:34:08 No.13443012 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442983

Yeah, that's fine, but it seems you're aligned with the mass injection program.

You realize whether you get injected or not, you will most likely encounter this virus in the not too distant future, unless you live on Reunion Island, you will get exposed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 00:42:43 No.13443030 Report

Quoted By: >>13443606 >>13451029

So now that the brain damage slide disinfo fag has vanished, the conclusion is that natural immunity is absolutely Chad-like giving you T-cell recognition of all current and future variants of SARS-COV2 for the next few decades, while injection cucks line up at the feeding trough for their 12th Astro-ZOG Booster v1.012 shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 01:59:45 No.13443200 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442963
>no evidence
your own posts itt are evidence enough for me you ape

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 02:21:13 No.13443258 Report

Quoted By: >>13445024

>>13442945
>idiots like this come to /sci/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 04:13:20 No.13443517 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435868
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 04:21:47 No.13443539 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435800
Retardation. It's retardation all the way down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 04:46:26 No.13443606 Report

Quoted By: >>13443884 >>13450680

>>13443030
>the conclusion is that natural immunity is absolutely Chad-like giving you T-cell recognition of all current and future variants of SARS-COV2
So why doesn't that work for the other endemic coronaviruses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 07:20:30 No.13443884 Report

Quoted By: >>13443913

>>13443606
They mutate far more often. The interesting question to ask is why it's the case that this virus mutates so much slower than what is typical for a coronavirus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 07:44:08 No.13443913 Report

Quoted By:

>>13443884
>what is https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global
why the fuck don't stupid garbage like like you stay out of the blue boards

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 08:13:34 No.13443963 Report

Quoted By: >>13447647

>>13435779
its true, my doc said as much
it appears they actulyl have better immunity to variants than globehomo shots do

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 08:15:40 No.13443968 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435800
someone heard 16 months ago there would be 15 million dead in u.s in 6 months and never updated their heuristics

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 08:17:54 No.13443973 Report

Quoted By:

>>13436029
>injections help fight off all variants but a covid infection only provides immunity to the variant you contracted.
its the opposite, the data shows injections are less strong against variants and people with natural immunity have stronger defense agisnt variants.
don't just spout shit that sounds reasonable, we have data for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 08:32:50 No.13444004 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435779
They aren't pressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 09:30:18 No.13444116 Report

Quoted By: >>13450672

>>13436020
>Not everyone develops long last antibody responses
so? antibodies arent supposed to last long you are supposed to have the immunological memory to produce them again if need be
a person who has no antibodies right after they stop being sick still has an immune system ready to produce them again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 15:52:00 No.13444961 Report

Quoted By: >>13450142 >>13450673

>>13436020
>Not everyone develops long last antibody responses

Antibodies are the least important pillar of the immune response to a virus.

T-cells and their receptors are far more important and studies have shown that people who contracted SARS in 2003 have the T-cells that recognize COVID. That's incredible, and the implication is long lasting immune memory of SARS-COV2 and ALL of the so-called variants (less than 0.3% difference in code) are a big fat fucking NOTHINGBURGER.

The entire pandemic, the response to it and the mass injection program have been fraudulent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 15:54:49 No.13444968 Report

Quoted By: >>13449132

>>13436067

You seem knowledgeable enough to be aware of the ADE risk yet you took the vaccine anyways. Why?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 16:09:32 No.13445016 Report

Quoted By: >>13445030

>>13442559
>natural virus recognition is superior, but comes at such terrible price nobody should consider it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 16:12:47 No.13445024 Report

Quoted By: >>13445030

>>13442945
>>13443258

>noooo you can't deal with a virus like every other organism on earth
>you must take a gene therapy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 16:13:55 No.13445030 Report

Quoted By: >>13445319

>>13445016
>>13445024
stick to /pol/ negroes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 17:05:37 No.13445195 Report

Quoted By: >>13446276

>>13435779
Based wagie cage poster

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 17:11:53 No.13445218 Report

Quoted By: >>13445332 >>13445523 >>13445702 >>13446191

I got covid and didn't feel shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 17:42:12 No.13445319 Report

Quoted By: >>13446191 >>13461344

>>13445030

They're both correct.
Our immune system is perfectly capable of handing this benign virus with a 0.01-0.03% mortality rate averaged across all ages.

Now if this was like Dengue virus, I'd be with you. But it's not, so you can fuck off with the unneeded, untested experimental injections.

I'm immune for life for any SARS-COV-like virus and derivative.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 17:44:43 No.13445332 Report

Quoted By: >>13446191

>>13445218

Because it's literally the flu, except with the added anxiety caused by the psychological warfare media propaganda that played up the risks.

When my 65-year old mother got COVID and had bad flu-like symptoms I had my first anxiety attacks in my life. I'm 35 and had it myself with nothing more than 1 day of mild fever, which I treated with water and some books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 18:40:59 No.13445523 Report

Quoted By: >>13446191

>>13445218
likewise. but my government puts me in the same boat of those who never had it, so i still have to get the jab.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 18:47:58 No.13445556 Report

Quoted By: >>13446155 >>13455390

someone just tell me should i take the vaccine I think jansen uses a traditional inactivated virus none of that rna shit so it should be ok no? or will i die if i take it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 19:25:49 No.13445702 Report

Quoted By: >>13448411 >>13450702

>>13445218
I got it and it was a flu from hell basically. Lost smell immediately, had severe fever that broke twice over the week (woke up in an absolutely drenched bed) and culminated in intense cough and trouble breathing by the end of the week. Only condition I have is mild asthma that hasn’t been a problem in two decades, which likely explains the effects at the end, but my experience convinced me it’s no joke.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:01:17 No.13446070 Report

Quoted By: >>13446273 >>13454408 >>13460619

>>13436020
>Vaccination after a natural infection leads to greater immunity.
>source: ass
Cleveland clinic tried to prove what you were saying and got BTFO by actual data

https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:20:08 No.13446139 Report

Quoted By: >>13446186 >>13446217 >>13448416 >>13454409

you can get better from covid but isn't there any negative long term side effects?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:27:01 No.13446155 Report

Quoted By: >>13446190

>>13445556
>or will i die if i take it
Ignoring all the people posting their adverse reactions on youtube, Research is showing it will onset symptoms around 3 years, with people developing very bad by year 7. Of course, it’s down to the genetics, a leading immunologist is saying it does modify your DNA, I’m waiting for him to publish before sharing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:36:01 No.13446186 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446139
Not in healthy people ever, the vax sounds more dangerous than any of my covid symptoms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:37:26 No.13446190 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446155
>Research is showing it will onset symptoms around 3 years, with people developing very bad by year 7
wow didn't know they had developed a time machine that's awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:37:44 No.13446191 Report

Quoted By: >>13446552

>>13445218
>>13445319
>>13445332
>>13445523
stop samefagging moron and get back to (((/pol/))), you don't want to miss the flat earth lecture from your (((handlers)))

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:44:50 No.13446217 Report

Quoted By: >>13446568 >>13454419

>>13446139
of course there are, it causes long term blood coagulation and microtrombosis, which hits at random organs, usually lungs, stomach, peripheral limbs, eyes and brain.

zoomer retards that boast here wouldn't know their ass from their brain let alone had any health check follow-up, you could zap them with x rays amount of chernobil and they would go about boasting they don't feel anything and radiation doesn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:55:58 No.13446273 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446070
So your image doesn't come from the paper you posted, and the image is making a pretty damn good case for the efficacy of vaccines. Was that your intention?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 21:56:20 No.13446276 Report

Quoted By: >>13448109

>>13445195
ironically i feel like this doesn't do enough to keep out contaminants but at the same time isolates you enough that you rebreathe the same gross contaminated air
probably does more harm than good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 23:42:40 No.13446552 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446191
stfu retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jul 2021 23:47:10 No.13446568 Report

Quoted By: >>13447493 >>13447687

>>13446217
>It causes long term...
So how do you have any of this "long term" data when COVID is still barely over a year old?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 04:58:05 No.13447318 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435800
clown world

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 05:52:12 No.13447493 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446568
Covid does what we need it to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 06:38:48 No.13447647 Report

Quoted By:

>>13443963
Dr J Campbell on yt is saying the exact same thing. He advises only taking the vaccine if you’re over 50 or have underlying medical conditions. So basically Sweden got it right, cuckstralia is following some weird sjw “Science”.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 06:58:54 No.13447687 Report

Quoted By: >>13448422 >>13452177

>>13446568
i don't need data, i have it myself and my lungs are still at 70% capacity 7 months after covid infection, which was itself mild and relatively trivial.
i was treated by a range of specialists as it affects everything, and always had to wait 20-30 days for an appointment because they're stuffed with postcovid patients.
also as i understand clinicians, this started to be a thing with british virus ("alpha") and wasn't detected in original (wuhan) wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 10:45:52 No.13448109 Report

Quoted By: >>13458196

>>13446276
>rebreathe the same gross contaminated air
contaminated by what?
if you mean contaminated by virus then you are dumb
once you are infected it does not matter that you breath in more, your body is already producing magnitudes more at an exponential rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 10:57:03 No.13448138 Report

Quoted By: >>13448151

eating oysters for zinc
vitamin d from sun
mouthwash, nasal spray
dandelion tea (allegedly detoxes prions)
n95 mask to mimise exposure to contagious prions
may start ivermectin if there's evidence of increasing virulent variants from leaky vaccines
not taking gene therapy to avoid prions, ade, blood clots etc
avoiding people who have received unlicensed gene therapies
frequent blood donation to remove prions
nicotine to minimise ace2 availability (study found hospitalization of smoker was 1/4th of what it should've been)
being prepared to move to increasingly remote and depopulated areas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 11:01:58 No.13448151 Report

Quoted By:

>>13448138
red wine resveratrol possibly reduces prions

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 13:07:35 No.13448411 Report

Quoted By: >>13449037

>>13445702
>I got it and it was a flu from hell basically. Lost smell immediately, had severe fever that broke twice over the week (woke up in an absolutely drenched bed) and culminated in intense cough and trouble breathing by the end of the week. Only condition I have is mild asthma that hasn’t been a problem in two decades, which likely explains the effects at the end, but my experience convinced me it’s no joke.

Sounds like a bad flu desu.
I went to Nepal in 2018 and caught something really bad that kept me in bed for 10 days whereas the engineered Chink SARS kept me down for one 1 day.

The weak are simply not meant to survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 13:08:57 No.13448416 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446139
>you can get better from covid but isn't there any negative long term side effects?

No. The "long COVID" bullshit is just hypochondriacs. It's like a White woman's fake disease like fibromyalgia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 13:10:20 No.13448422 Report

Quoted By: >>13448873

>>13447687
>i don't need data, i have it myself and my lungs are still at 70% capacity

You realize that it's the spike protein that causes the micro clots which lead to respiratory distress right?
Which means you're getting injected with the very thing that you're trying to protect yourself against.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 15:43:05 No.13448873 Report

Quoted By: >>13449195

>>13448422
i wasn't vaccinated and I'm still not, my doctors told me not to take a vaccine until my lungs and blood are in order

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 16:37:13 No.13449037 Report

Quoted By: >>13449176

>>13448411
>I went to Nepal in 2018 and caught something really bad that kept me in bed for 10 days whereas the engineered Chink SARS kept me down for one 1 day.
Neat-o. I haven't had the flu in two decades, meanwhile a trivial cold turns into a severe sinus infection. It's almost like we all have different immune systems that are primed against different germs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 17:09:16 No.13449132 Report

Quoted By:

>>13444968
>ADE risk
no such risk exists for SARS-2 schizo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 17:20:30 No.13449176 Report

Quoted By: >>13449290

>>13449037
>It's almost like we all have different immune systems that are primed against different germs.

Since you and I both lived, it seems the immune system is working just fine, no magical injections needed where the manufacturers are operating under full indemnification and authorized to use on the public under an executive order.

Hard pass on the injections. Zero fear.
I fear things like Dengue virus and borreliosis.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 17:24:22 No.13449195 Report

Quoted By: >>13449251

>>13448873

You can also start doing some cardio to improve your VO2max and stop eating.

If your body fat was under 20% I guarantee you wouldn't experience any issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 17:32:56 No.13449251 Report

Quoted By:

>>13449195
mate, i'm thin as a twig, i'm not to do any cardio because it attacked my heart too, but yeah, i try to move around alot because doctor says it prevents clotting and i don't want to take anti-clotting drugs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 17:42:42 No.13449290 Report

Quoted By:

>>13449176
Well okay, I don't really disagree since I haven't been vaccinated either, *and* I've had fucking Lyme Disease.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 21:07:38 No.13450142 Report

Quoted By:

>>13444961
source on the sarscov1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 22:31:04 No.13450369 Report

Quoted By:

watch greatest story never told

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 23:22:36 No.13450517 Report

Quoted By:

>>13436020
>Reinfections do happen
Your statement is disingenuous at best. You imply reinfection means infectious which depends on how quickly the known pathogen is detected and destroyed. A healthy immune system destroys pathogens constantly. An immune-compromised immune system does not.

>Vaccination after a natural infection leads to greater immunity.
Again, another disingenuous argument implying that people with antibodies already should submit to an unnecessary injection of an experimental drug which requires waiving your rights, when you already have immunity from covid.
Furthermore, reading the literature with the covid vax states clearly “it does not confer immunity from covid or its variants, nor does it claim to reduce symptoms.”

Since when do people line up to get jabbed with something that doesn’t stop you from catching the disease anyway?

Insanity and suspension of thinking since 2020.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 23:28:02 No.13450532 Report

Quoted By:

>>13436156
The creator of the PCR test said it won’t work for covid. He has stated it many times. Yet people still believe in unicorns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 23:34:36 No.13450553 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442559
>comes at such terrible price nobody should consider it an alternative to vaccination.
Experimental covid vax states you can still catch covid. Imagine getting billions of modifying RNA particles which put you at risk of developing some pretty hideous adverse reactions just to catch covid a few months later because you imagined you’re immune... but you’re not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 23:37:55 No.13450566 Report

Quoted By: >>13450686

>>13442873
That study is useless without a pre-infection baseline study to compare against.
Do you want more magical pixie dust to spread your fantasies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 23:40:11 No.13450572 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442913
They printed a retraction, which was the first time ever. Imagine how many people got paid for that to happen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 23:40:39 No.13450576 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435868
kek Vaccine cultists are mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Jul 2021 23:50:36 No.13450613 Report

Quoted By: >>13452608

>>13442945
>was associated with an increased risk of death in patients hospitalized with the disease.
Amazing how millions of African take it every Sunday to avoid malaria, and Africa is the country with the least amount of covid on the planet.
HCQ blocks parasites reproducing and when you add zinc, can inhibit the RNA process by viruses when they hijack a cell.
HCQ has been in use since the 1950s or so, is used by millions of people each week, has shown to have other properties, why wouldn’t you use something like that?
Because no patent anymore. No Billions of dollars, but if you use a new, experimental drug that is backed by Google and Bill Gates Foundation (yes, very serious, the financial data is available), then that’s a different story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:11:25 No.13450671 Report

Quoted By: >>13450693 >>13452007

>>13442963
>will have brain damage because everyone will catch COVID at some point
To put this in perspective, yes, the spike has been demonstrated to give you a spongiform encephalitis, but very limited. People typically only have hundred or thousands of the spike protein from naturally catching covid...

Now think of the covid vax, which are millions of mRNA particles, forcing your body to produce billions and billions of spike proteins... some researchers say your body could be doing it for months, and then they get a secondary injection!

I’m waiting to see the autopsy reports in a few years. At the moment it’s just people dying from blood clots or right-side heart attacks. The juicy experimental data is coming!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:11:42 No.13450672 Report

Quoted By:

>>13444116
Then why are people who had mild to asymptomatic cases far more likely to be reinfected? Your immunological memory, all of it, is tied to how strongly it has to respond to the first infection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:13:06 No.13450673 Report

Quoted By: >>13451207

>>13444961
>T-cells and their receptors are far more important and studies have shown that people who contracted SARS in 2003 have the T-cells that recognize COVID.
This was proven with the Wuhan strain. Do you have evidence it applies to every other variant? If what you say is true, then no one would be getting infected by SARS-CoV-2 because everyone on the planet has likely been exposed to one of the endemic coronaviruses in the past five years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:14:48 No.13450680 Report

Quoted By: >>13450696

>>13443606
>So why doesn't that work for the other endemic coronaviruses?
What do you mean? CoV2 is 18% different from SARS1, but those antibodies had no trouble destroying CoV2 viruses.
CoV2 variants are only 0.02% - 0.05% genetic difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:17:06 No.13450686 Report

Quoted By: >>13451367

>>13450566
>That study is useless without a pre-infection baseline study to compare against.
So you align with option two, people who get infected by SARS-CoV-2 are, on average, of lower intelligence than those who avoid getting infected? Also, I posted an animal study several posts later which confirmed there's significant brain trauma post-infection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:19:36 No.13450693 Report

Quoted By:

>>13450671
Gotta love being human guinea pigs, but at least you get to be a guinea pig with rights, unlike those unvaccinated criminals

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:20:47 No.13450696 Report

Quoted By: >>13450726

>>13450680
You missed the point. There's no long term immunity against any other coronavirus. People can and do get reinfected all the time. All we have to examine long term immunity from SARS-CoV-1 is petri dish studies. Activity in a petri dish doesn't tell us nearly as much as you think it does. And the antibodies that came from SARS-CoV-1 were shown to be effective against the original Wuhan strain of SARS-CoV-2. I'm not aware of any study examining the efficacy of the antibodies against the variants. Meanwhile, we have studies from people who actually had the Wuhan strain, and their antibodies are far less effective at binding to the Delta variant. The same goes for the vaccinated. The same goes for the monoclonal antibodies, which were very effective against the older variants but are now useless against the Delta variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:24:23 No.13450702 Report

Quoted By:

>>13445702
>but my experience convinced me it’s no joke.
You were part of the 20% who had some, to serious effects from it. I had it like you, but most people I know had a fever which was gone the next day, or didn’t notice anything.

Are you overweight, male and 35+? Statistically that group experienced the majority of symptoms like you describe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:39:46 No.13450726 Report

Quoted By: >>13450740

>>13450696
>There's no long term immunity against any other coronavirus.
There’s no long term immunity against anything your body hasn’t seen before, but you have an immune system that takes care of it.

You’ve had the flu, yes? Common cold? These still kill elderly and infirm people every year (except last year, no one died from influenza last year it seems, which is statistically impossible, implying the numbers are falsified).

Variants are tiny mutations, 0.03% average. Nothing an immune system cannot cope with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 00:43:34 No.13450740 Report

Quoted By: >>13451966

>>13450726
The argument wasn't about whether or not the immune system of a young, health person could handle the virus. The argument was about whether exposure to any other coronavirus yields future immunity. Immunity implies an inability to become infected again after a significant exposure. It's true for many viruses. Coronaviruses aren't one of them (that I'm aware of), the same goes for influenza. After one to two years, re-exposure is basically a new exposure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 02:34:13 No.13451029 Report

Quoted By: >>13451141 >>13451219 >>13451249 >>13454859

>>13440612
>Refuse to wear mask, gather up and cough in everyone's face
>Ha, see, masks don't work!!
>Refuse to take vaccine, willfully spread misinformation and induce mindless fear mongering on the unvaccinated
>Hah, see , vaccines don't work!!
Disingenuous morons like this are not just imbiciles, but a genuine danger to everyone else.

>>13443030
>So now that no one else is telling me info i don't want to hear then my original bias is obviously true
Enjoy your covid, loss of smell, taste and reduced cognitive function (more so).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 03:25:40 No.13451141 Report

Quoted By:

>>13451029
go fuck yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 03:56:36 No.13451207 Report

Quoted By: >>13451333

>>13450673
>This was proven with the Wuhan strain. Do you have evidence it applies to every other variant?

Why would it not be assumed to be the same for all of the other SARS-COV2 mutants? The Indian variant, aka the "delta" is only 0.3% different in genetic sequence.

If you're immune T-cells can recognize something as VASTLY different as SARS1 from 20 years ago, it's pretty fucking obvious the newest variants are just media fear porn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 03:59:59 No.13451219 Report

Quoted By: >>13451971

>>13451029

Isn't it time for your 5th spike protein injection?

Biden's buying a Mountain Dew and offering EBT cards for everyone that tops up on their Astro-ZOG booster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 04:14:19 No.13451249 Report

Quoted By:

>>13451029
You're not getting those 100 FIAT slips no matter how hard you pry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 04:27:27 No.13451292 Report

Quoted By: >>13451990 >>13452201

Ok hold up, I'm curious about this because this is on /sci/ instead of /pol/ or /b/. So I have COVID right now. I only didn't get the vaccine just because I'm waiting for it to get fully approved. For symptoms right now all I have is a cough, a bit of brain fog and no sense of smell. All of the major symptoms went away after the first two days and it's day 6 right now. Should I get the vaccine later this year when it's approved and am I likely to take some brain damage from this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 04:47:30 No.13451333 Report

Quoted By: >>13452006

>>13451207
Can you post a paper talking about T-cell memory from SARS working for SARS-CoV-2? All I've seen are papers discussing specifically antibodies, and we already know that antibodies in people who were infected early in the pandemic are pretty ineffective against recent variants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 04:59:01 No.13451351 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442292
Just how dumb are you? I'd wager pretty dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 05:01:15 No.13451355 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442488
Makes sense
Big if true

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 05:05:07 No.13451367 Report

Quoted By:

>>13450686
It's the more logical option.
Lower IQ people for example work jobs that you can't do from home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 05:09:25 No.13451381 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442979
>all of the resulting symptoms
Huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 09:49:09 No.13451966 Report

Quoted By:

>>13450740
From your statements it’s clear you’ve watched a YouTube video or two, but your understanding of how the immune system functions is flawed. Please grab a book and learn more to clear up your misconceptions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 09:52:51 No.13451971 Report

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>>13451219
>Biden's buying a Mountain Dew and offering EBT cards
This is amusing but if it becomes true is scary. I apologize for the analogy, but it really looks like people are lining up to get into the gas chamber. Again, apologies, but it’s hard to think of another alternative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 09:59:28 No.13451990 Report

Quoted By:

>>13451292
No because you now have the antibodies conferring immunity from this corona virus and any variants.
You can still be exposed to covid, you can still get the virus into your blood, but your body will kill it quickly. It will never take hold long enough for you to become infectious.
You’re picking up viruses bacteria and fungi constantly, but your immune system kills them all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 10:05:39 No.13452006 Report

Quoted By:

>>13451333
>infected early in the pandemic are pretty ineffective against recent variants.
If their immune system isn’t effective (degrades as we age, but with antibiotics can stop bacterial knock-on effects), or they exercise too much (immune system drops slightly during and after), then it could take them longer to recover, but no, your claim the immune system doesn’t work against variants is incorrect.
The immune system can fight almost anything as long as you’re fit and healthy, eat right, get enough vitamins and minerals, but old age and death come for us all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 10:06:35 No.13452007 Report

Quoted By:

>>13450671
How are clots real nigga just fibrinolize your ass lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 10:36:54 No.13452047 Report

Quoted By: >>13452074 >>13452147

>>13435779
Anyone know if the J&J can potentially have long term impact or alter DNA?

I know the mRNA vaccines have 48 hours of viral shedding. Does the J&J have similar trends?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 11:02:33 No.13452074 Report

Quoted By:

>>13452047
Yes it turns your dna to mush.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 11:42:10 No.13452125 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435779
people were getting the varus twice in fucking January 2020 Wuhan, fucknuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 11:49:36 No.13452136 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435800

I bet they're to keep the bugs from biting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 11:55:57 No.13452147 Report

Quoted By:

>>13452047
j&j is essentially a copy of russian sputnik v, meaning it's a non-replicating viral vector, which means when the amount of virus you receive from the vial is spent it's done, don't know if it's 48h but it's probably within several days.

also it's glued onto human adenovirus (again like sputnik) which on the one hand makes me more comfortable than astrazeneca (glued onto a monkey virus) but is susceptible to less effectiveness if a person has immunity to carrier adenovirus, or if a second shot is needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 12:00:56 No.13452153 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435779
nobody knows how anything works
the lockdowns are clearly being used for politics and control and to keep midwits stuck in pointless debates about muh 'vax vs antivax' so they don't notice the bigger picture going on

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 12:12:05 No.13452168 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442873
If it doesn't control against a baseline I will arge that there's a giant cofounding acting here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 12:16:49 No.13452177 Report

Quoted By: >>13452583

>>13447687
Anecdotes are data. Also I have experiment reduced lung capacity in 2020 and I never got covid.
How do you explain that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 12:34:17 No.13452201 Report

Quoted By: >>13452262

>>13451292
No reinfection is rare, vaccine is obsolete when you already have the protection conferred from specialized antibodies, actual data suggests natural immunity is good enough, no need to compromise your protection by mix and match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 13:11:34 No.13452262 Report

Quoted By:

>>13452201
Natural immunity good enough even though it's been shown time and time again that this is not necessarily true. This has been seen in the case of measles. Reinfection can and does happen. Natural immunity has its benefits, but it doesn't negate the fact that vaccines IMPROVE long term immunity.

ADE also is quite rare, and so far no reports of this taking place with covid...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 15:26:58 No.13452583 Report

Quoted By: >>13453798 >>13454502

>>13452177
i don't know mate, maybe you had asymptomatic covid, maybe you had bronchitis, maybe you had asthma flare up?
i'd certainly expect the doctor who did your spirometry and diagnosed reduced lung capacity to give you some sort of diagnosis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 15:35:16 No.13452601 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435911
covidiot alert covidiot alert!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 15:38:10 No.13452608 Report

Quoted By: >>13452939 >>13455008

>>13450613
If it actually worked in any effective capacity, all they would have to do is to mildly change its formula and patent it as "Covid-specific", this isn't hard to figure out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 17:25:05 No.13452939 Report

Quoted By:

>>13452608
>all they would have to do is to mildly change its formula and patent it

Obviously it's not patentable with the minor changes or does not create a sufficient profit motive to compete with the experimental mRNA injections, since everything BUT the experimental injections are being pushed hard by the Stakeholders and their agents and proxies.

Tell me why monoclonal antibody therapy, which was also authorized for use alongside the experimental injections, have not been pushed as hard, or even mentioned AT ALL?

Money and Jews always lead to the correct answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Jul 2021 21:18:45 No.13453798 Report

Quoted By:

>>13452583
He said I lost cardio training.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 01:20:08 No.13454408 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446070
based graph

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 01:21:10 No.13454409 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446139
yes there are.

but the fact remains that if you've already had covid, the vaccine is useless at best. dangerous at worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 01:24:53 No.13454419 Report

Quoted By:

>>13446217
irrelevant, because this still doesn't mean recovered patients have any benefit from getting vaccinated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 02:15:04 No.13454502 Report

Quoted By: >>13454577 >>13455397

>>13452583
Not the same anon but I had similar issues. The spirometry showed things were fine and the pulmonologist decided it was probably just bad acid reflux. He prescribed a proton pump inhibitor which gave me the worst explosive diarrhea of my life and ended up with bleeding out my ass. Not a good time. Lesson learned is to never let a pulmonologist prescribe something for what's probably a gastro issue. I'm still shitting brown water months later but at least it's not explosive anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 02:55:41 No.13454577 Report

Quoted By: >>13454647

>>13454502
>I'm still shitting brown water months later but at least it's not explosive anymore.
how many doses of the proton pump did you take?

I can't imagine taking a medication once and having the effects linger for months

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 03:18:06 No.13454638 Report

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Would you do this to your kids /sci/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 03:20:45 No.13454647 Report

Quoted By: >>13454807

>>13454577
A one month course. I probably should go see a gastrologist or at least our family doctor but all this covid mess makes going anywhere, especially a place where sick people gather, feel risky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 04:06:22 No.13454758 Report

Quoted By:

>>13442746
>art bell

based

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 04:22:07 No.13454789 Report

Quoted By: >>13454887 >>13455082 >>13455431 >>13455463

im just gonna leave these here

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 04:23:12 No.13454795 Report

Quoted By: >>13454853

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 04:28:57 No.13454807 Report

Quoted By: >>13454886

>>13454647
>A one month course.
You didn't start having doubts the first time it made your shit liquid? lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 04:48:58 No.13454853 Report

Quoted By: >>13455775

>>13454795
It's the same AP article posted on different news sites....you understand that's how the AP works, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 04:53:25 No.13454859 Report

Quoted By: >>13457756

>>13451029
So how does this work. Do you faggots have a little discord where you just link each other to threads all day and then sperg out at people who weren't retarded enough to inject liquid capitalism into their body to stop a 99.9% survival rate cold virus? Seriously, how does this work? Where do you faggots come from? It's obvious you are completely alien to even the most narrative towing boards on the site. WHERE? LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 05:06:57 No.13454886 Report

Quoted By: >>13458588

>>13454807
Doctors are experts. You have to trust their judgement. It's dangerous to think you're smarter than a doctor.

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OP Sat 31 Jul 2021 05:07:07 No.13454887 Report

Quoted By:

>>13454789

I was skeptical of the claims of conspiracy to this fraudulent pandemic. I just assumed that governments were stupid, scared and slow to react correctly.

But more and more I am seeing the emergence of elements of design; it is becoming clear that this is directed, but I can't make out clearly who the injection Stakeholders are beyond the immediate corporate profiteers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 05:49:25 No.13454984 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435911
It's funny bro, come on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 05:58:12 No.13455008 Report

Quoted By:

>>13452608
I agree. I'm not that guy but my only conclusion is they want to normalize gene therapy/mRNA vaccines to try and alter the human population in some way. Why else would they be so militant over it. For a few billion?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 06:11:53 No.13455031 Report

Quoted By: >>13455644 >>13457756

What do these statistics even mean? Wouldn't anyone in a hospital get a covid test for health and safety reasons?

>Get covid while dying of cancer
>It's the covid bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 06:49:00 No.13455082 Report

Quoted By:

>>13454789
creepy af

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 09:21:34 No.13455390 Report

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>>13445556
jansen does not use traditional inactivated virus, the only vaccine (semi)available in the west that uses it is chinese sinopharm (and sinovac but that one's weaker). usa and france are preparing to launch their own traditional vaccine called valneva, i think it's soon to finish 3rd phase testing.

j&j is a viral vector vaccine, basically a copy of russian sputnik v, using human adenovirus which has some advantages and some disadvantages compared to other viral vector vaccine by astrazeneca which uses monkey adenovirus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 09:27:59 No.13455397 Report

Quoted By: >>13455883

>>13454502
the first symptom of my post-covid was a bad acid reflux that i couldn't suppress with any regular acid suppressors. then it escalated from there to other stomach problems and later to everything else.

not suggesting that you're symptoms are necessary related to covid, but if it started happening to you in some period month or two after the infection, you might want to check your blood ddimer values so you don't get fucked up like i got.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 09:54:27 No.13455431 Report

Quoted By:

>>13454789
nobody look at the accounts on here. they definitely aren't antivaxxers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 10:10:56 No.13455463 Report

Quoted By:

>>13454789
>somebody makes a post with 100k likes
>bots copy post to catch likes for themselves
this has been happening for years

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 11:42:28 No.13455605 Report

Quoted By: >>13455685

>>13435911
>A wild Covidian appears out of the bush

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 12:02:56 No.13455644 Report

Quoted By:

>>13455031
It means that the numbers were too low so they had to cook the books

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 12:38:07 No.13455685 Report

Quoted By:

>>13455605
steve was 1/4 abbo, just look at his features

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 13:43:02 No.13455775 Report

Quoted By:

>>13454853
>you understand that's how the AP works, right?
fuck no, i dont even know what AP is. advanced press? nevermind dont care lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 14:40:49 No.13455883 Report

Quoted By: >>13456033

>>13455397
That's the odd thing though. My symptoms were mostly covid symptoms in the early days though I never lost the ability to taste or smell. Over the past year, they've matched long covid symptoms. But I've had three covid tests and they've all come back negative. The timing of it all is very suspect.
I don't know how long after infection tests continue to be effective. It's really odd how much it lines up with covid but the covid test all say no. Could be coincidence. Could be something other than covid going around that's being masked by everyone looking for covid. Or maybe it was covid and the tests aren't always correct but three false negatives seem a bit much since they were spread out over about six months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 15:22:43 No.13455967 Report

Quoted By: >>13456026

>>13435779
COVID is a 'novel' virus meaning we have NO NATURAL IMMUNITY WHATSOEVER. The vaccine gives you some natural immunity, at the least. This takes a seriously deadly threat down to the level of mildly dangerous. It turns it from a murder-plague into "just a flu." If you want it to be "just a flu" then get vaccinated.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 15:50:46 No.13456026 Report

Quoted By: >>13456222

>>13455967
>COVID is a 'novel' virus meaning we have NO NATURAL IMMUNITY WHATSOEVER

Wrong.
People who had the 2003 SARS virus were tested and their blood contained immune T-cells that recognized the engineered, Fauci-Chink SARS-COV2 17 YEARS LATER.

Go back to Facebook granpa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 15:52:56 No.13456033 Report

Quoted By: >>13456059

>>13455883
if you're referring to PCR tests, those are relevant only during a short period at the start of the infection when the concentration of virus in your nose/throat is high enough to detect.

post-covid symptoms begin (actually more likely "begin to be detected", after some amount of damage accumulates) usually a month and more after your infection is cleared, there is no more virus and you're healthy in that regard, and your PCR tests will show all clear.
some property of virus makes some kind of damage (the exact pathway is unknown afaik) that makes your fine vessels susceptible to thrombosis and microthrombosis, a guy once said your blood turns to syrup, even if that's not really true. this can be detected by taking a blood test for D-DIMMER, which detects if your body is fighting thrombic events all over your body. that's the test to take after the covid if postcovid symptoms are present, but if the levels are elevated doctor should be consulted because interpretation isn't straightforward.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 16:05:19 No.13456059 Report

Quoted By: >>13456078

>>13456033
>some property of virus makes some kind of damage (the exact pathway is unknown afaik) that makes your fine vessels susceptible to thrombosis and microthrombosis

It's not a mystery. Salk institute identified the spike protein as the cause of micro clotting in the fine vascular network which results in the respiratory distress and heart issues people report. But long COVID itself has not formally been identified as an actual condition. It's most likely a psychological syndrome, sort of like fibromyalgia among Western white women only.

The funny thing is the "vaccine" helps propagate the spike protein through your body in a way that might be just as harmful since it migrates around the body as opposed to being limited to the injection site.

I think the injection Stakeholders were very smart in negotiating full indemnification with various governments around the world before deploying the experimental drugs on the public.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 16:13:12 No.13456078 Report

Quoted By: >>13456101 >>13458917

>>13456059
>It's most likely a psychological syndrome, sort of like fibromyalgia among Western white women only.
maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but i've just spent several thousand dollars and 7 months of my life going from doctor to doctor and to various hospitals for them to patch me up from that "psychological syndrome" and all those places are full with people with the same affliction.
at this time my lungs are at 70% now which is great, and they were 100% immediately after the covid. that's measured by the spyrometry not by the psychiatrist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 16:22:50 No.13456101 Report

Quoted By: >>13456129 >>13456222

>>13456078

So what medically observed damage has been recorded by the slew of tests that you've done?

Which imaging methods were used to record these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 16:33:47 No.13456129 Report

Quoted By: >>13456188

>>13456101
gastroscopy, allergy tests, bronhoscopy, rtg, mr, ophthalmology check, chest ct scan...
neither i nor any of my doctors considered it to have anything to do with covid, i just started going to gastrologist a month after the infection thinking i'm having an indigestion and my usual antacids stopped working. then the symptoms continued to pile up on top of one another, i would go to other doctors, until a few months ago one of the main country covid doctors came to tv and said all these symptoms are postcovid. i went and measured ddimer levels and they were 4 times the maximum level, like 4 months after the infection. so no, i'm not a fibromyalgic woman, i had zero idea it could be related to covid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 16:57:47 No.13456188 Report

Quoted By: >>13456213

>>13456129
>gastroscopy, allergy tests, bronhoscopy, rtg, mr, ophthalmology check, chest ct scan...

And what deviations from a healthy were recorded by those?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 17:07:09 No.13456213 Report

Quoted By: >>13456222

>>13456188
that's for my doctors to know mate

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Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 17:12:56 No.13456222 Report

Quoted By:

>>13456101
So what medically observed damage has been recorded by the slew of tests that you've done?
I deny it should be mentioned, given that if there were any it would go unpunished/unaccounted anyway due to no laibility or government vaccine injury compensation that covers it.
Your test will never exist because there is literally no legal reason for it to.

>>13456213
They know, they just don't care because it would mean their demonization.

>>13456026
Sorry, webster and a host of other professional describers changed the definition of "herd immunity" and "vaccine", so that automatically means the science behind it is nullified.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Jul 2021 17:45:10 No.13456285 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435779
it was, conclusion is
>recovered immunity is better than vaccine immunity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 02:21:37 No.13457756 Report

Quoted By:

>>13454859
>Everyone that does not follow the /pol/ narrative is an globohomo soros illuminati
Must be hard knowing not everyone is an idiot and this is not your hugbox

>>13455031
>Cancer was responsible for predictable, strongly peaked death waves in 2020 and 2021
Disingenuous moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 03:16:38 No.13457894 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435911
hahaha faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 05:30:51 No.13458196 Report

Quoted By: >>13458381

>>13448109
We've learned from this pandemic that viruses don't seem work like that. The viral load you're exposed to seems to have a MASSIVE impact on the severity of infection, with brief exposures tending to be more mild and sitting in a boardroom for three hours with an infected person tending to lead to much more severe cases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 07:21:55 No.13458381 Report

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>>13458196
that is not the same situation
you do not start shedding viruses through your breath until a while after infected and at that point you already have your initial viral load

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 07:24:32 No.13458387 Report

Quoted By: >>13458479

>>13435779
I’m not even kidding or trying to be edgy: if I saw this IRL and there no cameras around I would just shove them over and run really fast.

That is too fucking funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 08:20:23 No.13458479 Report

Quoted By:

>>13458387
and then the shoved one would chase you and beat the shit out of you because you can't run and are a daydreaming manchild

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 09:05:34 No.13458531 Report

Quoted By:

>>13435779
a lot of countries treat recovered same as vaccinated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 09:55:45 No.13458588 Report

Quoted By: >>13458597

>>13454886
Doctors are fallible too. I saw a doctor claim the virus stays localized, which is why they got the vaccine. Weeks later, the bio-distribution study came out proving it doesn’t, and ends up everywhere, some organs having concentrations more than other organs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 10:04:00 No.13458597 Report

Quoted By:

>>13458588
Additionally, if they had tested it properly, they would have known all this. Instead they get emergency authorization to use dumb normies as lab rats.
Why get blanket immunity? Because you know that your vaccine is poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 10:31:17 No.13458635 Report

Quoted By: >>13458996

itt: wasting time for arguments hardly changing any mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 13:54:05 No.13458917 Report

Quoted By: >>13458941 >>13459045

>>13456078
>i have real post viral/icu syndrome
>this proves long covid real
Long Covid still can't be defined as it's own illness. In the moment you have 200 symptoms it's clear there isn't a proper illness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 14:07:50 No.13458941 Report

Quoted By: >>13458964

>>13458917
what is a proper illness then oh so wise anon expert on medicine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 14:21:31 No.13458964 Report

Quoted By: >>13459041

>>13458941
One that doesn't resolve taking anti anxiety meds, non proven treatments or taking a vaccine post infection.
Long Covid reportedly has been solved by those three things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 14:26:23 No.13458972 Report

Quoted By: >>13459003

>>13435779
t. Doesn't understand basic Evolution of Viruses

Well done; I hope you have a Bruce Willis ready to travel back in time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 14:41:13 No.13458996 Report

Quoted By: >>13459003

The average IQ of the people posting in this thread is of 94, and I just brought it up by posting.

It feels like Dunning-Kruger all over the place.

>>13458635
And I wasted my time reading all of this trash. I want my 20 minutes back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 14:45:45 No.13459003 Report

Quoted By: >>13459186 >>13459189

>>13458972
>>13458996
Please, enlight us, plebs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 14:53:42 No.13459012 Report

Quoted By: >>13459193

>>13442279
Because the immune system literally only cares about that part of the virus. The antibodies our body creates are there to latch onto those spike proteins and signal T-cells to fuck up the spike protein and everything attached to it.

Even if you get your immunity "naturally", the B lymphocytes don't fucking analyze the DNA of every creature they encounter. They just find a threat and latch onto its surface (the spike protein) to model an antibody against it. That is the extent of human immune system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 15:11:29 No.13459041 Report

Quoted By: >>13459071

>>13458964
>Long Covid reportedly has been solved by those three things.
that's bullshit and none of the doctors i've seen recommended anything similar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 15:15:07 No.13459045 Report

Quoted By: >>13459071

>>13458917
>In the moment you have 200 symptoms it's clear there isn't a proper illness.
what does that even mean? i don't have 200 symptoms, i had about 6. obviously the facebook quack can't comprehend that blood clotting can affect different organs, because THE FUCKING BLOOD AFFECTS THE WHOLE BODY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 15:36:40 No.13459071 Report

Quoted By: >>13459145

>>13459041
>>13459045
I don't care about your shitty n=1. I'm recalling actual studies.
You obviously seem to have a post viral syndrome. That's not new or unheard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 16:10:29 No.13459145 Report

Quoted By: >>13459478

>>13459071
no i'm a psychiatric case that managed to trick computed tomography with autosuggestion, and the river of people i had to wait behind for an appointment are victims of mass hysteria propagated by chinese government through 5G antennas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 16:28:13 No.13459186 Report

Quoted By: >>13459189 >>13459624 >>13460505

>>13459003
It was mentioned in another thread:

Say nobody gets vaccinated = More instances of the virus to mutate every time it copies itself and from what we know empirically about it's evolution currently, that does not bode well.

More instances = More chances of mutation = greater chances of Virus developing increased severity and transmissibility.

Vaccination = Reduces transmissibility and severity of transmission = Less opportunity for Virus to reproduce = Less chances of Mutating viciously.

See: Eradication of Smallpox

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 16:29:15 No.13459189 Report

Quoted By:

>>13459186
>>13459003
Bruce Willis reference = The film
>12 Monkeys
Shout out to Brad Pitt and Terry Gilliam gang

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 16:30:35 No.13459193 Report

Quoted By:

>>13459012
Based and Biologist pilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 18:46:58 No.13459478 Report

Quoted By: >>13459854 >>13462404

>>13459145
You aren't evidence. Get over it.
Long Covid doesn't exists. It's just post viral syndrome combined with anxiety.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 19:40:12 No.13459624 Report

Quoted By: >>13460490 >>13460577

>>13459186
Vaccinated people don't get the first version of the virus = virus has to mutate

Virus mutates = vaccinated AND unvaccinated can get a new (potentially worse) version of the virus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Aug 2021 20:36:28 No.13459854 Report

Quoted By: >>13461453

>>13459478
you have not given a definition of illness beyond no true scotsman

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:17:24 No.13460490 Report

Quoted By:

>>13459624
You've ignored the volume of virus emanating within unvaccinated populations vs vaccinated clusters.

Yes the Virus can always mutate; but the chances of mutation lessen with fewer hosts to mutate within

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:24:42 No.13460505 Report

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>>13459186
>Vaccination = Reduces transmissibility and severity of transmission = Less opportunity for Virus to reproduce = Less chances of Mutating viciously.
another cultist pseud, just go back

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198
>Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population. Here we show experimentally that immunization of chickens against Marek's disease virus enhances the fitness of more virulent strains, making it possible for hyperpathogenic strains to transmit. Immunity elicited by direct vaccination or by maternal vaccination prolongs host survival but does not prevent infection, viral replication or transmission, thus extending the infectious periods of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Our data show that anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:45:03 No.13460560 Report

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>>13460505
Does it always have to return to Marek's? The fact that there's ONE example of this happening, and it's with a virus that remains with the host forever, is very telling.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:49:50 No.13460577 Report

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>>13459624
>Vaccinated people don't get the first version of the virus = virus has to mutate
The virus had already mutated from the Wuhan version by the time it reached Europe, it was already more infectious. Then the Alpha variant came along in the summer of 2020, before there were any significant trials. The Delta variant was running rampant by the end of 2020, in India, a country with a low vaccination rate.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:52:05 No.13460584 Report

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>>13460505
>Anime posting
The absolute state. Go back to your board.

Citing a paper with a subtle valid point testing a live vaccine amongst poultry does not negate the general points made and exposes that you either cannot/do not wish or are unable or unwilling to talk decently, think logically, comprehend fairly or engage in any meaningful debate.

Maybe you will change but until then drink it all in:

>There is no evidence in Marek’s disease that vaccine breakthrough by more virulent strains has anything to do with overcoming strain-specific immunity (e.g., epitope evolution); genetic and immunological comparisons of strains varying in virulence suggest that candidate virulence determinants are associated with host–cell interactions and viral replication, not antigens [19].
>The imperfect-vaccine hypothesis was suggested as an evolutionary mechanism by which immunization might drive MDV virulence evolution [2], but there has been no experimental confirmation. Our data provide that: by enhancing host survival but not preventing viral shedding, MDV vaccination of hens or offspring greatly prolongs the infectious periods of hyperpathogenic strains, and hence the amount of virus they shed into the environment.
>Our data do not demonstrate that vaccination was responsible for the evolution of hyperpathogenic strains of MDV, and we may never know for sure why they evolved in the first place.

>We suggest that the risk of outbreaks of hyperpathogenic strains be considered wherever disease interventions improve host survival without preventing pathogen transmission. Such situations might include vaccination against Newcastle disease [50] and avian influenza in poultry [51–53] and vaccination against Brucella in domesticated mammals [54], as well as genetic enhancement of agricultural animals including fish and poultry.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:55:07 No.13460590 Report

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>>13460584
>>13460505

>>13460560
It's all so tiresome anon. No subtlety or genuine discussion as there is some semblance of a valid point lost in crass polarised ridiculousness from that anime charlatan.

Have more from the very same quoted paper.

>Whether leaky human vaccines could also create the conditions in which more virulent strains can thrive will depend, among other things, on the selective factors currently preventing the emergence of hyperpathogenic strains in human populations. Our data emphasize that a comprehensive understanding of the impact of vaccines on pathogens cannot end with Phase III clinical trials or post-implementation studies of antigenic or serotype frequencies

Do you really want to be Chris Bryant, anime anon?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:56:41 No.13460596 Report

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>>13460505
Enjoy your Smallpox, Polio, Measles, Mumps, Rubella and TB

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:58:26 No.13460600 Report

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>>13436020
>OBVIOUSLY
Theres nothing obvious about it, its simply that conclusive research hasnt been done yet because its reallt difficult to look for T cells and funding for something that can't be sold is pretty much cut.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 00:59:26 No.13460603 Report

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>>13460577
>No no no no the vaccines will definitely 100% caused and made these variants worse.

>Trust ME! Don't take any vaccines ever. Many such cases of Vaccinated people being made worse.
Let's just treat symptoms with our crumbling health infrastructure and praise Narendra Modi (Insert any leader not taking this shit seriously)

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 01:00:31 No.13460607 Report

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>>13460560
Marek's = Anti-Vaxxers version of Dr. House = Lupus

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 01:04:04 No.13460619 Report

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>>13446070
>Previously infected unvaccinated
So basically this correlateS with OPs statement. Can we close the thread now?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:35:54 No.13461147 Report

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>>13439711
>could
>might
its getting less deadly

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:43:38 No.13461271 Report

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>>13461147
But Delta is more deadly so far?
Mortality is dropping only due to vaccination

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 06:22:47 No.13461344 Report

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>>13445319
>they're both correct
Neither of them are. The vaccines confer better immunity than catching the virus and none of vaccines are gene therapy. Only retards that don't understand the central dogma of molecular biology think the latter one is true.
>unneeded
overall increases mortality of 2020 begs to differ
>untested
40K patients in phase 3 trials is untested?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 06:29:54 No.13461351 Report

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>>13438223
Do you eat crayons? That link just says to save time and money labs should get tests to differentiate between covid and the flu in a single test, rather than testing twice with two samples

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 07:22:02 No.13461453 Report

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>>13459854
Get a textbook of medical semiology and you will understand why Long Covid is the new fybromialgia.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 14:35:54 No.13462404 Report

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>>13459478
stay on (((//pol/))) you fucking idiot

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