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Professor Sucharit Bhakdi claiming blood clot factor and immune self-attack due to vaccines

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 04:04:59 2021 No.13408342 View Reply Original Report

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https://youtu.be/knXcLOKXUeM?t=755

He claims that spike will protrude from epithelial cells causing clots from Lymphocyte activity (apoptosis I assume).

Is this true do you think? Is it temporary? Is he purely speculating?

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 06:38:05 No.13408737 Report

Quoted By: >>13409114

>>13408342
>video removed
Take it with a grain of salt, OP. Reminder that Charles Hoffe’s related study on blood clotting was pretty sketchy for a number of reasons, and his methodology was definitely flawed. I haven’t seen anything truly reliable on the subject yet.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 09:44:23 No.13409114 Report

Quoted By: >>13409119 >>13411252

>>13408737
I've thought the Hoffe's tentative small sample study was more a test of a null hypothesis where he theorised on how the capillaries might interact with the spike protein, he then measured an indicator molecule for scarring.
the idea certainly seems like it could have legs so we'll see where it goes from here.
this is generally why vaccine trials usually take months

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 09:45:25 No.13409119 Report

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>>13409114
*trials usually take years not months

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:42:16 No.13409251 Report

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>>13408342
>pajeet
No

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 10:44:03 No.13409256 Report

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>>13408342
>mr sugar blood
hmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:05:04 No.13410009 Report

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>>13408342
This shit was never testet for repead dose toxicity.
Never.
One dose.
And even in this toxocolgy report it looks shitty.

The mystery Juice is safe.
Source: trust me dude.

EMA Report Biontech.

> https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/assessment-report/comirnaty-epar-public-assessment-report_en.pdf

Netherland Report that is refered to in EMA report:

> http://www.slideshare.net/enave2609/ss-242999249

mRNA integrity is 70% meaning 30% mRNA is garbage.
Meaning your cells either produce retarded Spikeproteines or none or something worse.

Toxicology (page 46 and so on) Quote:

Haematology:
"At 30ug BNT162b2 V9 and 100ug BNT162b2 V8, there was a moderate to strong
reduction of reticulocytes (48-74%, not specified for V9) coupled to lowered red cell mass parameters
(RBC, HGB, and HCT). There was a moderate to strong increase (>100%) in large unclassified cells
[LUC], neutrophils, eosinophils, basophils and fibrinogen that may be related to the
inflammatory/immune response."

> there was a moderate to strong reduction of reticulocytes (48-74%)
What does that mean?
reticulocytes are baby blood cells. Ife there are less you have blood insuffcency.
(and if you get clotting then, you will die)

This could mean, that the LNPs enter the bone marrow. Not good.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:06:09 No.13410016 Report

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>>13408342
page 136:
"There are no data on use in pregnant women, but a protective effect is anticipated. In the light of the
reassuring data from the DART study, noting that pregnancy as such is a risk factor for severe COVID19, and that pregnant women may additionally belong to other risk groups, vaccination may be
considered on a case by case basis.
Based on biological plausibility no risk in breastfeeding is anticipated. "
> Based on biological plausibility
> source: dude trust me

Page 55:
"No genotoxicity nor carcinogenicity studies have been provided. The components of the vaccine
formulation are lipids and RNA that are not expected to have genotoxic potential. "
> dude trust me

But they acknowledge the insufficency of mRNA integrity. :D

But lets go over this again:
> Haematology: At 30ug BNT162b2 V9 and 100ug BNT162b2 V8, there was a moderate to strong
> reduction of reticulocytes (48-74%, not specified for V9) coupled to lowered red cell mass parameters
> (RBC, HGB, and HCT). There was a moderate to strong increase (>100%) in large unclassified cells
> [LUC], neutrophils, eosinophils, basophils and fibrinogen that may be related to the
> inflammatory/immune response.

> There was a moderate to strong increase (>100%) in large unclassified cells [LUC], neutrophils, eosinophils, basophils and fibrinogen that may be related to the inflammatory/immune response.

> may be related to the inflammatory/immune response.

THERE IS A >100% increase of unclassified cells. They ASSUME thet it MAY be DUE to INFLAMATION.
They don't look. they don't care.

Now back to the mRNA integrity shit. What happes if it creates fucking wierd cells and fucks you over?!

> may
> source: dude trust me

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:08:44 No.13410027 Report

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>>13408342
Is this the video you want OP?
https://tube.doctors4covidethics.org/videos/watch/57c4f2be-94dd-404b-a6c1-65156e3e4811

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:08:52 No.13410028 Report

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>>13408342

"No genotoxicity nor carcinogenicity studies have been provided. The components of the vaccine
formulation are lipids and RNA that are not expected to have genotoxic potential. "

> not expected to have genotoxic potential.

> not expected

Page 23 of the EMA-Assement report:
"Two novel excipients are included in the finished product, the cationic lipid ALC-0315 and the
PEGylated lipid ALC-0159. Limited information regarding the novel excipients are provided. "

> cationic lipid ALC-0315
Cationic lipids are toxit to cells of macrophage origin (white bloodcells and t-cells etc)
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15157615/

ALSO ALC-0315 NO SAFETY DATA AT ALL:
https://safetydatasheets.pfizer.com/DirectDocumentDownloader/Document?prd=PF00092~~PDF~~MTR~~PFEM~~EN

Search for ALC-0315.

Everywhere :
No data available.
Mysterious.
Screenshot source:
>https://webmshare.com/play/EeBDY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:10:12 No.13410033 Report

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>>13410027
>>13408342

Mabe this video about clotting.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyPjAfNNA-U&t=194s&ab_channel=JourneymanPictures

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:12:29 No.13410037 Report

Quoted By: >>13410060

>>13410016
>>13410009
if you weren't a fear monger, you'd be posting with info about how many people were tested and their methodology used. Instead of just blindly focusing on every bad side effect they found.

But instead you wrote tons and tons of fucking fluff and useless garbage, the links in your post are the only useful thing you wrote. Seriously faggot are you 12? The state of california has spent the last 30 years funding studies that found everything causes cancer; finding problems and bad side effects with *anything* is easy, but actually establishing how often they occur is literally the only thing that matters.

Its plainly obvious that in the short term, two vaccine injections are inherently safe. So for any arguments about bad RNA or the vaccine affecting bone marrow, you have literally no basis in reality for supposed detrimental health affects that the studies you quote propose.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:19:48 No.13410060 Report

Quoted By: >>13410100 >>13410510

>>13410037
The absence of Studies is a problem.
No repeat dose toxicity.
Half assed Pharmacokinetic.
No Pharamcodynamic.
Novel Vaccine. Novel Platform.
No toxicology for the Spike protein.
No systemic reaction analyses.
Do you understand how mRNA/Adeno Vector vaccine "vaccinate" you?
And why in the fuck do you trust Big Pharma in a situation, where they can make billions?
Ever heard of conflict of interest?

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:38:16 No.13410100 Report

Quoted By: >>13410169 >>13410177 >>13411071 >>13411178

>>13410060
>And why in the fuck do you trust Big Pharma in a situation, where they can make billions?

Big pharma dont care if your dumb redneck ass dies. They want private jets and fat bonuses and the way they get that is delivering a good product. It makes no sense they would allow a harmful product to be rolled out to a billion people. That makes sense only to schizophrenics and schizotypals like you.

You will never have a good job or respect in society. You dream of apocalypse and breakdown because you see it as a chance to be recognized. But it wont happen and you will die a low IQ schizo.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 15:54:07 No.13410133 Report

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>>13408342
>claiming
You mean lying. Vaccines are safe and effective, therefore there are no side effects.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 16:04:16 No.13410169 Report

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>>13410100
>they want private jets and fat bonuses and the way they get that is delivering a good product.

How do you figure? They got their billions from the government rolling out the product and if hundreds of thousands die from it the vast majority of people won't bat an eye.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 16:05:59 No.13410177 Report

Quoted By: >>13410185 >>13410219

>>13410100

> It makes no sense they would allow a harmful product to be rolled out to a billion people.

Oh so it never happened?
Contergan?
Swine flu vax?
Tami flu?
Asbestos in Babypowder?
Benzos?

Of cours it would make sense to give people a shitty vax, if there is money to be made and they have no liability.
They only can make money.
Vaxx everbody, get money. some get sick, earn money from treating them.
Easy as fuck.

This type of technology was never in people except they where terminally ill or had shit like a degenerative nerve disease.
They could never check for "side effects" of the mRNA tech, because of "noise" since participants where already close to death.

I don't believe in some NWO shit or microchips by bill gates.
This is a horrible tested product.
Also check out r/covidVaccinated
scroll through the misery.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 16:07:41 No.13410185 Report

Quoted By: >>13410190

>>13410177
>Contergan?
>Swine flu vax?
>Tami flu?
>Asbestos in Babypowder?
>Benzos?
These never existed, quit getting your news from Facebook mommy groups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 16:08:40 No.13410190 Report

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>>13410185
Good goy, $5 have been deposited to your account.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 16:17:10 No.13410219 Report

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>>13410177
>Tami flu?
What was wrong with tami flu?

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 17:27:22 No.13410510 Report

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>>13410060
> And why in the fuck do you trust Big Pharma in a situation, where they can make billions?
Big Pharma can make just as much money making a safe vaccine that works too.

McDonald's made $19 billion last year. Are they adding RFID chips into their happy meals?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 17:30:52 No.13410524 Report

Quoted By: >>13410982

>>13410510
Exactly, notice how no one accuses the tobacco industry of putting nanobots in the smoke. And they make way more than McDonalds with a totally harmless product.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:11:30 No.13410982 Report

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>>13410524
>muh tobacco
Take your meds, redneck. I know this is probably hard for a retard to understand, but a tobacco company is completely different from a pharmaceutical company. They've never cared about peoples health or their customers. They a literally selling a deadly product, and the people who buy cigarettes know that, and they choose to do it anyway. The pharma industry is literally the exact opposite. The whole point is to help people and treat disease.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:16:04 No.13411001 Report

Quoted By: >>13411019

>>13410982
>Deadly product
Link me ONE laboratory study which links nicotine to cancer of any kind.
>The whole point is to help people and treat disease
Silly, naive anon. The whole point is to make money. They don't give a fuck about you or me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:18:50 No.13411019 Report

Quoted By: >>13411024

>>13411001
It's the tar that is cancerous

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:20:05 No.13411024 Report

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>>13411019
You mean the tar that you can get plenty of just sitting by a campfire?
Opioids are a bigger threat to society than tobacco ever could be and pharma is complicit in that threat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:20:45 No.13411026 Report

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>>13408342
all the more reason to get it. science said we're turning earth the wrong temperature by existing anyway.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UQYTb9DwKjQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:30:22 No.13411071 Report

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>>13410100
>They want private jets and fat bonuses and the way they get that is delivering a good product.
How is it in the '60s? In just 10 years the money printer will go brrr and outsourcing will become a plague that will both start strangling most of USA and European manufacturing to death, and the source of those private jets and fat bonuses in exchange for mediocre and sometimes outright dangerous products. Later on corruption in regulatory institutions will take on a large role in it as well.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:42:38 No.13411137 Report

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>>13411026
>science said we're turning earth the wrong temperature by existing anyway.
>we're

And by "we", I assume you mean the evil, racist, anti-science white go-- I mean Europeans? After all homosexuals, Jews, and people of color have always been peaceful, inclusive, and have always trusted the science and protected the environment. It's only evil racist white people that don't trust science and who pollute the environment with their first world lifestyles that are supported by neocolonialism. Blacks, Muslims, Asians, and South Americans, on the other hand have always been at the forefront of science, conservation, sustainability, and humanitarian values.

The biggest problem facing the human race today are all of these racist white people and the unsustainable lifestyle that they have become accustomed to. If the human race is to survive, whiteness and white culture must be dismantled, and the ecologically unsustainable economies of Europe and North America must be completely renovated, in order to make way for a more sustainable, and equitable global economy. If we do not dismantle white supremacy, and end finally the era of whiteness, racism, environmental exploitation in which we live, it will eventually the destruction global ecosystems, and eventually all life on earth. We need to develop a new way of looking at things. A new culture. A new economy. One that is inclusive and sustainable. One that is not rooted in outdated and racist European ideals and values. Our generation must decide: will we embrace diversity, inclusion, and sustainability, or will continue to allow unsustainable economic practices and white nationalism to dictate the course of human development?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:46:33 No.13411149 Report

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>>13408342
>Video Not Found
They got to him...

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:52:44 No.13411178 Report

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>>13410100
>It makes no sense they would allow a harmful product to be rolled out to a billion people.
Pretty sure that has happened before

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Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:54:32 No.13411184 Report

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>>13410982
>The pharma industry is literally the exact opposite. The whole point is to help people and treat disease.
The point is to make money, you braindead retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:56:46 No.13411200 Report

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>>13411184
You're both wrong. The point is to extend power and control. Money is just one means of doing so, but the act of aimply collecting money itself, does not directly facilitate these ends. These people aren't as stupid as you think, they know you can't expect to tread water forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:57:11 No.13411203 Report

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>>13411137
Hear, hear!
No gene therapy for white people until all others have been treated. They will be the last to participate in our new world. They are not brave, they are meek and afraid. And what can we do with those who are afraid of change? We get the first bugs and they shall get the last.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 20:05:31 No.13411252 Report

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>>13409114
But to do a small sample study on your own patients (selection bias), to not compare your results against background rates of positive d-diner tests, and then also claim you lost all your evidence in a fire... the mechanism is plausible, but the study itself is unreliable as hell. And not only that, for him to take this “tentative” study and broadcast it to the media and the public before properly substantiating his findings, reads very suspicious to me.

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