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Why are lung cancer rates decreasing when we have the same level of smoking as the 1930s

Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 10:30:40 2021 No.13384473 View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 10:33:15 No.13384477 Report

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Decreasing in comparison to the previous years d'uh. Besides better treatment is available and the quantity of people smoking has decreased.
Note that it's death rate not prevalence graphed.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 10:35:00 No.13384482 Report

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>>13384473
Because you don't get lung cancer the moment you smoke a cigarette. So, the second graph should lag after the first one.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 10:48:47 No.13384520 Report

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>>13384477
>Decreasing in comparison to the previous years
correlates better with this

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 10:55:52 No.13384535 Report

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>>13384482
but inhaling is the same as 1900s
and there was increasing rate of inhaling leading up to that yet no increase in lung cancer
ie the lag is variable

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 10:59:56 No.13384545 Report

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also

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 11:01:07 No.13384549 Report

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>>13384545
sorry thats cancer not lung cancer

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 14:38:04 No.13385093 Report

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>>13384473
Possibilities:
A million other things gave you lung cancer back then (PPE was a joke)
We're dying from heart disease today before lung disease kills us
People quit smoking today before it gets really serious unlike in the 1930's when people thought smoking was unrelated to cancer and they'd smoke themselves to death
A 20 year lag effect like here>>13384535
Sickly aristocrat society chained smoked back then and their lungs couldn't take it causing more deaths per cigarette smoked
Maybe second hand smoke caused more lung cancer (I always thought that was kinda a meme)

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 17:37:33 No.13385536 Report

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>>13384473
its because people learned that if you take a ciggie out of the box, put it back in upside down, that prevents lung cancer

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 17:52:58 No.13385581 Report

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>>13384482
the single largest and most comprehensive statistical investigation of the effects of smoking show that people who quit smoking at about 40 years old or younger have no lower life expectancy than people who never smoked at all.
it also shows that people who quit smoking tobacco at any age have no increased longterm risk of lung disease 15 years after they quit.
the information gathered in the british doctor's study is often intentionally misinterpreted by scientists for financial or political considerations, but if you have a look at the raw data and read between the lines in official publications you can see that the observational data does not back up the insanely disproportionate horror stories about tobacco that the scientific community circulates. alcohol seems to be somewhat more harmful than tobacco, but does not get similar treatment from the medical/scientific/media/government community
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5298160/

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 23:10:13 No.13386341 Report

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Most of the effects from the hundreds of nuclear tests we did are weaning away

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 23:16:09 No.13386353 Report

Quoted By: >>13386399

>irrational OP desperately wants to give himself an excuse for failing to quit smoking

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 23:17:58 No.13386360 Report

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>>13384535
Huh?

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 23:18:30 No.13386362 Report

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>>13384473
We stopped using asbestos.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 23:33:03 No.13386399 Report

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>>13386353
>upboated
>wow your so special
>you tell him!
Har Har

In all seriousness I've always wondered if the heightened carcinogen rate of human civ would upselect for cancer resistant individuals. In fact I've wondered if its almost needed, coincidentally planned, for long term human space travel in less then ideal closed environs polluted with who knows what fumes.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 23:52:27 No.13386449 Report

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>>13385581
Based

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 23:58:52 No.13386477 Report

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>>13386399
Addict cope.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 00:00:23 No.13386483 Report

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>>13385581
Unironic smoking apologist, really? Yes tobacco smoking is as bad as stated. Alcohol is also bad but doesn't get as much attention because of cultural reasons but tobacco is much worse. 15% of all deaths are attributable to tobacco while only 5% to alcohol.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 00:22:25 No.13386536 Report

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>>13384473
Carbonmonooxyd and Benzole Sulfite manly.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 02:44:15 No.13386817 Report

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What about second hand smoke? Does the reduction in exposure cause lung cancer to decrease? Used to be even non smokers were exposed to second hand smoke all the time. You could smoke everywhere.
I'm not sure what the link between second hand smoke and lung cancer is, if there is one.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 02:59:44 No.13386831 Report

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>>13386399
No because you get cancer well after child bearing/having age...

Stop coping and start quitting.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 09:45:26 No.13387504 Report

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>>13386483
it's not it's crappy associational data that isn't even associated when you look at it >>13384535

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 09:57:47 No.13387525 Report

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We stopped doing shit like this all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFVT_CtL62M

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Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 10:46:36 No.13387618 Report

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fuckin pussies

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