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Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 20:20:45 2021 No.13360106 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13360256 >>13360299 >>13360340 >>13360733 >>13360753 >>13360757 >>13360776 >>13360822 >>13361792 >>13361831 >>13362043 >>13362079 >>13362356

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I want to get a vaccine but I happen to be seeing a lot of cases of people dying soon after from side effects. What's the point of getting vaxxed if I am going to die either way?

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:21:52 No.13360109 Report

Quoted By: >>13360114

If there are so many cases why do you keeo posting the same 3 unverified facebook screenshots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:22:44 No.13360114 Report

Quoted By: >>13360140

>>13360109
Fine here's the actual source
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/07/02/covid-19-vaccine-death-michigan-teen-saginaw-county-cdc-investigation-zilwaukee/7841643002/

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:25:16 No.13360129 Report

Quoted By: >>13360187 >>13361349

Handful of alleged vaccine deaths versus 600,000 virus deaths
Not complicated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:26:46 No.13360140 Report

Quoted By: >>13360151

>>13360114
That anon's point is "a lot of cases" is really narrowing down to a handful of cases that are being spammed over and over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:29:16 No.13360151 Report

Quoted By: >>13360181 >>13364301

>>13360140
A handful can't be a lot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:30:21 No.13360158 Report

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About 2 days (after the initial side effects wore off) I could tell I began retaining water. For a few days there I got scared as I peed very little and got a headache which I assumed was from high blood pressure. Around the beginning of the third day I just peed and peed and peed and it went away. I assume it was from some residual inflammatory effect in the body caused by the initial reaction. I personally have a family history of autoimmune diseases, lupus, crones and rheumatoid arthritis mostly, so the vast majority of people probably wont have a problem.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:30:50 No.13360164 Report

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Test

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:31:22 No.13360165 Report

Quoted By: >>13360216

The death rate from vaccine side-effects combined with the death rate from getting covid after getting the vaccine, depending on your choice of vaccine, is only 1/1450 to 1/1700 that of getting covid without having any vaccine.
Think of 1 million clones of you. Covid, depending on your age and health will kill anywhere from 2,000 to 45,000 of those clones.
Side-effects will kill less than 10.
Covid after getting a vaccine will kill anywhere from 4 to 90 of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:33:35 No.13360173 Report

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Innocence is a lie.
Every single cattle that get shot and die deserve it.
This is the information age, you are informed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:35:46 No.13360181 Report

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>>13360151
What is your point of comparison? I suppose it's a lot in comparison to zero vaccine deaths in people who weren't vaccinated, but it's not a lot in comparison to the total vaccinated and the total who have died from SARS-CoV-2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:36:57 No.13360187 Report

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>>13360129
^600,000 alleged virus deaths

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:39:11 No.13360200 Report

Quoted By: >>13360266 >>13363659

>>13360187
That exceeds even the highest "alleged" vaccine deaths by over 100-fold. Also not helping your argument is that all-cause mortality was significantly elevated during the peak of the pandemic in the USA, but it's not elevated despite over half the population now being vaccinated. There's clearly not a large portion of people dying from the vaccine.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:44:37 No.13360214 Report

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Is it safe to have sex with someone who have received the injection ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 20:47:53 No.13360216 Report

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>>13360165
>Covid, depending on your age and health will kill anywhere from 2,000 to 45,000 of those clones.

Gotta love how you always have to inflate the danger of it.

That number should be 1 (4-5 yo age range) to 45,000 (85+)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 21:07:18 No.13360256 Report

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>>13360106
Take your meds, schizo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 21:11:07 No.13360266 Report

Quoted By: >>13360813

>>13360200
Now that mortality is no longer elevated, why the continued push to vaccinate people?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 21:21:47 No.13360299 Report

Quoted By: >>13360714

>>13360106
If you aren't part of the ethnic group targeted by it, it's useless and an unnecessary danger.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 21:36:54 No.13360340 Report

Quoted By: >>13360665

>>13360106
what's the point of not killing yourself tonight if you're gonna die either way? Get vaccinated retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 23:29:04 No.13360665 Report

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>>13360340
>made-up numbers
>"could" used to describe the opposite position, no such qualifer for her position
propaganda take

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 23:46:56 No.13360714 Report

Quoted By: >>13361842

>>13360299
You probably are part of that ethnic group though.

That still doesn't mean you should get the vaccine, as the vaccine is designed to do something similar to COVID.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 23:56:39 No.13360733 Report

Quoted By: >>13360746 >>13360758 >>13360811

>>13360106
What's known is that the AZ vaccine has a tiny TTS risk, and the Moderna/Pfizer vaccines have a tiny heart-inflammation risk. /pol/tards are stubbornly bent on pretending that these aren't acknowledged risks.
Weigh the risks of COVID (death + long COVID) vs. vaccine (death + long vax) accordingly. For me, I'm in no rush to get a shot, because only two people have died from COVID in Australia in my age group and because I seem to be one of the unlucky ones who get "long vax" from most vaccines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:02:12 No.13360746 Report

Quoted By: >>13360778 >>13360796

>>13360733
>TTS and heart inflammation
1. You can get both of those from the virus itself
2. The risk of those is lower with the vaccine than the virus
3. Heart inflamation sounds scary but it goes away on its own and isn't fatal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:05:45 No.13360753 Report

Quoted By: >>13360912

>>13360106
why does anyone under the age of 40 even consider taking the vax?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:05:57 No.13360756 Report

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Vaccine gives you 1-2 days of sickness after both doses.
Symptomatic covid gives you week or two. But your chances to get symptomatic covid are noticeably lower than 1/4-1/5. So there is no point in getting the vaccine even if we will throw away hypothetical long-term poisoning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:06:30 No.13360757 Report

Quoted By: >>13360773

>>13360106
If something is literally a "one in a million" chance, and 100's of millions of people are doing it, you'll get 100's of examples. You read the news stories of the 100's of people, but not about the millions who don't have anything happen to them. Stop being a retard who doesn't understand statistics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:07:04 No.13360758 Report

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>>13360733
Because the news always does the same bullshit
there's a TINY TINY TINY TINY TINY TINY TINY risk BUT IT'S TINY TINY TINY TINY TINY INCREDIBLY TINY!!!!!!, so no risk whatsoever now take the risk or you're anti vax and a science denier lmao there's no risk at all you retard.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:11:50 No.13360773 Report

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>>13360757
That's how you inflate a seasonal cold into a horrible pandemics.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:12:01 No.13360776 Report

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>>13360106
COVID taught me that everyone really is a midwit/NPC.

My symptoms were literally nothing like what they described. I think this virus affects NPCs differently. Humans can get sick from it but they don't die. NPCs are either unaffected or deathly affected

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:12:16 No.13360778 Report

Quoted By: >>13361958

>>13360746
>You can get both of those from the virus itself
Of course.
The TTS is likely from the viral spike, which the AZ vaccine uses in its natural form without the 2P proline substitutions that the mRNA and J&J vaccines use. Thus, you don't want the AZ vaccine entering the bloodstream, and in the vast majority of cases, it seems to be membrane-bound at the injection site, while there's some emerging evidence that cell death and/or poor injection technique may be allowing the AZ vaccine to enter the bloodstream.
The myocarditis is likely 'only' an autoimmune response to either virus or vaccine and is more manageable if medical attention is sought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:18:42 No.13360796 Report

Quoted By: >>13360846 >>13360849

>>13360746
>Heart inflamation sounds scary but it goes away on its own and isn't fatal
Cardiologist here, this is not correct. Myocarditis can be fatal.
Pericarditis can be fatal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:22:53 No.13360811 Report

Quoted By: >>13360847 >>13361958

>>13360733
What can you tell me about the blood clots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:23:07 No.13360813 Report

Quoted By: >>13360907 >>13364032

>>13360266
To stop the virus’s spread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:26:33 No.13360822 Report

Quoted By: >>13362245

>>13360106
>manboobs
>no health problems
yikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:33:54 No.13360846 Report

Quoted By: >>13360851

>>13360796
MDs aren't scientists, your entire body of knowledge consists of regurgitating whatever information the health insurance people think will make them the most money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:34:18 No.13360847 Report

Quoted By: >>13360856

>>13360811
That's what TTS is. It stands for Thrombosis with Thrombocytopeania Syndrome

Some patients are suffering blood clots without having TTS. This is not being reported on nearly as widely. In all cases I have seen, there were no fatalities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:35:35 No.13360849 Report

Quoted By: >>13360855

>>13360796
"Can", being the operative word here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:36:13 No.13360851 Report

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>>13360846
This is a tired meme
Cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:37:31 No.13360855 Report

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>>13360849
>Anon 1 states myocarditis is not fatal
>Anon 2 with expertise in the field informs the thread that this is not universally true and that myocarditis can indeed be fatal

I fail to see why you have a problem with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:37:35 No.13360856 Report

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>>13360847
Ok thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:38:02 No.13360857 Report

Quoted By: >>13360900

how at risk am I as a 6'1 255lb male for COVID?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:49:11 No.13360900 Report

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>>13360857
Impossible to give any manner of % indication as to what outcome you might have.

Assuming you aren't jacked as fuck but are actually fat as fuck, you are more likely to be hospitalised, more likely to be in need of advanced respiratory support (such as high-pressure nasal oxygen or CPAP) and you are at more likely to require intubation and ventilation with higher rates of death amongst the overweight. The chance of each complication occurring becomes progressively smaller. Thin people with COVID still have complications and die, but your risks are greater if you are fat and / or have pre-existing medical issues.

Also, higher risk of blood clots

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:51:39 No.13360907 Report

Quoted By: >>13360919

>>13360813
This vaccines are claimed not capable of do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:52:35 No.13360912 Report

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>>13360753
It's perplexing.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 00:54:07 No.13360919 Report

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>>13360907
Not true. They're known to reduce spread, though obviously not 100%.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:45:14 No.13361349 Report

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>>13360129
>600k deaths
of which most old and ill people that would have died from the next flu season or heatwave, and who knows how many of those deaths were padded
>hundreds of vaccin deaths of which most are young people
Thats my worry. Taking age in account the vaccin might prove nearly equally dangerous to me as the
virus.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 07:31:31 No.13361792 Report

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>>13360106
Depends on the company brand the magic = god formula is not given to all some after they get themselves this is the bootleg of policy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 07:49:50 No.13361831 Report

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>>13360106
you don't get to decide whether you're a conspiracy theorist, just the same way you don't get to decide if you're racist, sexist, or white
you do not have the power to define these terms
the people who do will use them as an avenue to project power, whether you object to it or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 07:56:21 No.13361842 Report

Quoted By: >>13363016

>>13360714

Someone called it last year . Less ace2 receptors in Asians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 09:02:53 No.13361958 Report

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>>13360811
I added some relevant info here: >>13360778

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 09:30:07 No.13362013 Report

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COVID only kills old people, or younger people that are fat fucks and have one foot on the grave already.

The vaccine kills regardless or your characteristics.

If you are young and healthy the vaccine is unironically more of a gamble than COVID.

If you are old or fat, the vaccine is a better option than COVID.

That is pretty much it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 09:48:31 No.13362043 Report

Quoted By: >>13362203

>>13360106
Where did you see it
Here
Here you will only hear and see the worst

My country is very anal about this and we vaxed like 80 percent of the population, ok probably much less but if like one incident happened here the very strong anti vax crowd would fucking go mental, media too
But none of that happened and probably some people died from blood clots

But an enlarged heart ? how can a vaccine enlarge your heart in 3 fucking days
This could very well be photoshop

Also the majority of anti vax propaganda that came from pol, got politely refuted here
If you dont want mrna dont take the mrna dumb dumb, i took the russian classical vacine for example and i had no reaction or nothing.
Wasnt gonna take it initially but my family is huge and very old and frail and im constantly risking to get corona

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 10:06:05 No.13362079 Report

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>>13360106
Currently 99% of the deaths happen to the unvaccinated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 11:29:44 No.13362203 Report

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>>13362043
This, we cattle should all get shot.
It's the only way to be sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 11:47:19 No.13362237 Report

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Can someone just post the long term studies of the covid vaccine to calm OP down

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 11:52:42 No.13362245 Report

Quoted By: >>13363944

>>13360822
Jacob was a close friend of my family. He was female to male transgender and in perfect physical shape. Please stop spreading lies.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 12:58:22 No.13362356 Report

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>>13360106
>but I happen to be seeing a lot of cases of people dying soon after from side effects.
its because your brain selectively remembers things, look up total vaccinated/total dead from vaccine

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 17:29:06 No.13363016 Report

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>>13361842
It's really the perfect bioweapon. Hats off to God Emperor Xi.
It even kills off the Aryan Indians 3-4x more than the Dravidian ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 21:32:41 No.13363659 Report

Quoted By: >>13363929

>>13360200
>That exceeds even the highest "alleged" vaccine deaths by over 100-fold.

in the grandpa cohort. Why won't those selfish boomers fuck off?

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 23:03:09 No.13363929 Report

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>>13363659
based

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 23:08:17 No.13363944 Report

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>>13362245
>took a shit ton of drugs unnatural to that genetic profile
>perfect physical shape

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 23:46:51 No.13364032 Report

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>>13360813
But mortality is already down to normal levels yes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 01:56:06 No.13364301 Report

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>>13360151
Handful literally means 5 or less you fucking moron.

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