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Do intelligent people switch 'effect' and 'affect' or say 'irregardless'?

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 09:13:09 2021 No.13353992 View Reply Original Report

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I have always thought not, but then I saw the brightest mind of our time say 'irregardless'.
Also I have very often seen people on /sci/ present solid arguments but use 'affect' when they mean 'effect' or vice-versa.
Am I a snob, am I pedantic, do I take my education for granted, or are there actually different kinds of intelligence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 09:35:50 No.13354048 Report

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>>13353992
I watched Alexis interviewing some bitcoin guy. Only interview i saw of him. He talks like an average zoomer, says "like, uhm, its like when you feel, tha that thing like when".

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 09:56:24 No.13354098 Report

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>>13353992
Lex isn't a native English speaker.
So Lex has an excuse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 09:57:37 No.13354100 Report

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>>13353992
Lex isn't a native English speaker.
So Lex has an excuse
... for his English language mistakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 09:58:08 No.13354102 Report

Quoted By: >>13354127 >>13355548 >>13355626

>>13353992
>Thinking that perfect grammar = being intelligent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 10:00:07 No.13354105 Report

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>>13353992
People who are intelligent are not always literate nor legible, and vice-versa.
>am I pedantic
Bear in mind that "pedantic" is a pejorative only among those who do not value education.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 10:11:10 No.13354127 Report

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>>13354102
No, my point is that imperfect grammar implies not being intelligent, not the other way around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 10:17:23 No.13354136 Report

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>>13354105
Yeah no of course.
But I just feel like there are exceptions. If someone is generally literate, but can't use 'effect' and 'affect' correctly, it makes me feel they are not really formulating thoughts. As if some people formulate thought, but other people just sort of hint at it, and then rely on feedback to see if the interlocutor understands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 10:21:21 No.13354147 Report

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>>13354136
>Yeah no
wat
>If someone is generally literate
If you mean "semi-literate", then I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 10:29:08 No.13354158 Report

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>>13353992
OP sounds like an annoying cunt.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 11:21:28 No.13354257 Report

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>>13354158

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 11:51:28 No.13354351 Report

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>>13353992
Albert Einstein was dyslexic

Dyslexic in all languages He spoke:
German, English, French, Italian and Yiddish

Einstein spoke English with a
heavy accent and with wrong grammar:

Einstein often said things like
"I will a little tink”!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 12:52:53 No.13354570 Report

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>>13353992
I'll admit to being someone who is bad at grammar, punctuation, and spelling. I'm doing my PhD and every journal paper I have I just put it through grammarly and then make my girlfriend do all the spelling and grammar correction. Too busy to waste time memorizing useless linguistic info, I could if I wanted to expend energy doing so, but I would rather expend energy on my actual research. Grammar is women's work, they can do it for me while I get real work done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 12:56:00 No.13354574 Report

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>>13353992
Why does he look like from an video game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:03:33 No.13354591 Report

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>>13354351
His voice was phenotypical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TmlYGdBodQ&ab_channel=HashemAl-Ghaili

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HYa4wxqe8Y&ab_channel=NomenNominandum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:04:02 No.13354592 Report

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>>13353992
>Do intelligent people switch 'effect' and 'affect' or say 'irregardless'?
they could if they're not focusing all of their intelligence into thinking about language.

But really people who can't follow some sort of sense of rule while communicating through text are retarded. And people who don't know the definitons of the words they use often make themselves look really stupid. This is only semi-retarded because they're trying to convey a specific message, they just don't understand how words are given their meaning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:04:12 No.13354593 Report

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>>13354570
This is a good point, back in the day all the scientists had secretaries who did all their typing for them, they just dictated things to them. It is was literally beneath most people to write properly, now instead we have to waste our time on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:14:36 No.13354614 Report

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>>13354593
What nonsense. Educated people read and write a lot, they ought to be better at language. A typical secretary is a random low class woman that can keep a file system and do errands and take calls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:18:56 No.13354627 Report

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>>13354614
I'm talking about in the 50s, they were trained in English proper grammar because their core role was typists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:21:55 No.13354635 Report

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>>13354627
Taking grammar classes wont make you speak correctly. You need to read books and communicate daily with people with good grammar. Language isnt intellectual, you speak as people in your daily life do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:23:49 No.13354637 Report

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>>13354635
OP isn't talking about spoken intellect. I can use affect and effect properly in speaking yet still mix them up when typing them down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:26:26 No.13354645 Report

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>>13354351
And did he do that in his native language? That's the assumption in this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:32:06 No.13354663 Report

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>>13354637
make sure you look at the image before replying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 13:53:06 No.13354705 Report

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>>13354663
Oh god, fuck that lex fuck so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 14:00:39 No.13354722 Report

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>>13353992
one of my physics profs (native English speaker) who did pioneering work on diamond anvil press said irregardless during lecture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 14:30:25 No.13354804 Report

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>>13354637
>I can use affect and effect properly in speaking yet still mix them up when typing them down
Because you're an illiterate fucking midwit who has read no more than 5 books in his life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 15:18:33 No.13354936 Report

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>>13354645
Lex speaks Russian as first language, not English.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 15:22:31 No.13354942 Report

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>ITT grammar spergs who want to feel better than others because: "At least I can spell properly!"
Lemme guess, you're also:
>Smart but lazy
Piss off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 15:54:59 No.13355009 Report

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>>13354127
You're a little late to be a 2007 grammar Nazi buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 16:12:33 No.13355056 Report

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>>13354942
Anyone who complains about grammar is someone who is wasting my/there time. Only retards like wasting others time.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 16:13:29 No.13355060 Report

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>>13355056
das rite i dinna get wypipo n dey gramma n sheit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 16:21:49 No.13355093 Report

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>>13354614
Natural language is a nonsensical mess that triggers the autism of a lot of people and wasting a lot of effort trying to communicate better with humans seems hard to justify if you don't care too much about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 17:19:44 No.13355339 Report

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>>13353992
I never forgot that affect and effect are two different things because it was in the back of every mead composition book when I was in school.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 17:23:07 No.13355355 Report

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>>13355060
blah blah you know what the fuck I mean. These complaints aren't about some stupid fuck that can't form a complete sentence or communicate whatsoever. They are about things like irregardless that are simple mistakes that don't hinder overall comprehension and that almost never even come up.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 17:31:42 No.13355391 Report

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>>13354591
>His voice was phenotypical
The PHENOTYPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:06:52 No.13355503 Report

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>>13353992
I was afraid the if I affected the effect, it would effect my affect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:16:13 No.13355526 Report

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>>13355056
>there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:18:47 No.13355531 Report

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>>13355355
>like irregardless that are simple mistakes that don't hinder overall comprehension
>t. pseud
Of course they interfere. Nobody knows what it actually means but they don't want to appear stupid so they just nod their head like an involute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:20:46 No.13355536 Report

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>>13353992
Yes, assuming anyone speaking in ebonics is a worthless, filthy retard is a good frame of mind.
Should of, alot, a dime a dozen, etc...

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:24:01 No.13355548 Report

Quoted By: >>13355588

>>13354102
Correct, precise language is an indicator of high verbal IQ, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:25:21 No.13355552 Report

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>>13355355
Sure it does.

Could care less, so you care or not ???
Irregardless, is it actually a double negative or not ???

And someone making such type of faults tends to making multiples, compounding miscommunication until the sentence is "open to interpretation".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:36:39 No.13355576 Report

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>>13355536
Put a period, or at least a semicolon, after the "Yes". Otherwise there is syntactic ambiguity as to whether the "assuming" is modifying the yes, or rather is the subject of the next clause.
Lern grammer muh dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:41:08 No.13355588 Report

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>>13355548
>people who are good with languages are good with languages
uh duuuh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:49:39 No.13355608 Report

Quoted By: >>13355615

>>13355588
Not the same guy, but I'd like to inform you that intelligence in one area generally correlates positively with general intelligence, so uh, yes, people who grammar good are almost certainly more smarter (on average).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:51:36 No.13355615 Report

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>>13355608
In the general case but not in a specific case. Context matters a lot.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:51:59 No.13355618 Report

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>vice-versa
Are you any less intelligent because you didn't know that the preferred form is 'vice versa'?

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Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:53:13 No.13355624 Report

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>>13354591
>they both sound like massive faggots
>I don't sound like a massive faggot
I'm NGMI am I, bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:53:22 No.13355626 Report

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>>13354102
Somewhat true. Do you find Lex bright?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:54:31 No.13355633 Report

Quoted By: >>13355640

>>13355615
THAT, IS WHY, I SAID, "O-N A-V-E-R-A-G-E"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:56:36 No.13355640 Report

Quoted By: >>13355645

>>13355633
Yes thanks, faggot. We're clearly talking about Lex here. The average case hardly matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:57:57 No.13355645 Report

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>>13355640
I am dumb, I was not paying attention to the topic of the thread
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
you win
I need to stop arguing on the internet
rgstrstjrtjdrtjdrtjdrtj

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jul 2021 18:59:50 No.13355651 Report

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>>13353992
It's more of a knowledge thing than an IQ thing, but the simple fact is that many people on /sci/, /lit/, and /pol/ who consider themselves educated are nothing more than pseuds. They expect people to gloss over their redneck-tier writing and marvel at their stellar minds, but it's just not happening.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jul 2021 04:07:20 No.13357269 Report

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>>13353992
I winced a little when I heard Lex say that. He almost never makes a mistake though so I gave it a pass. I could see myself possibly doing something similar if I were anxious and talking to someone 1-on-1. The real unforgivable thing is if someone puts it in writing.

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