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Is there any peer-reviewed, Level 1 research that disputes the findings of Rushton & Jensen, 2005?

Anonymous Tue 24 Aug 12:47:21 2021 No.13554983 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13563841 >>13568322 >>13569644 >>13570098

They find a convincing link between race and IQ based on a systematic review of 30 years of IQ research conducted globally. Please don't post any blogs or magazine articles. Only meta-analyses and systematic reviews from psychology journals, preferably endorsed by the APA like the one I am posting below.

Please don't cite me your personal arguments either. I only want actual research from the field in question that refutes this article:

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 05:11:23 No.13562738 Report

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So why is IQ science called pseudoscience again if there are all these high level peer reviewed articles for decades to centuries about it? Isn't that real science by any definition?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 06:42:40 No.13562949 Report

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>>13562451
>this shit again
You didn't have enough from the other thread buddy? You vanished without answering my questions. It was very rude one might conclude that you had no arguments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 06:59:44 No.13563006 Report

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>>13559886
Chinks do worse shit, and to their own people no less. Europeans have (had) the best combination of traits in history. Our successes pretty much prove it. Maybe if China is Christianized for 1000 years and executes psychopaths for that long they can eclipse Europe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 07:36:00 No.13563108 Report

Quoted By: >>13563202

>>13562451
One thing about intelligence between Europeans and East Asians is cognitive divergence. To be more specific, Europeans seem to produce very broad ranges on iq tests, whilst Asians seem to produce far more narrow scores in relation to their average. In essence, Europeans seem create more genius iq individuals in comparison -- and very stupid people to boot. That might explain why they have achieved dominance in the fields of sciences and mathematics for so long.

East Asians by comparison, seem to produce very few people with iq under 90. Probably why their cultures produce minimal criminal behaviors and very low unemployment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 08:13:19 No.13563202 Report

Quoted By: >>13563845 >>13564009

>>13563108
>To be more specific, Europeans seem to produce very broad ranges on iq tests, whilst Asians seem to produce far more narrow scores in relation to their average.
Not this shit again. Standard deviations are prety much the same in IQ distribution of East Asians and europeans.

Also, this is a scientific discussion. Laughing at stupid Africans while ignoring the congitive supremacy of Asians might work on /pol/ but not here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 11:37:09 No.13563817 Report

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why exactly are pol threads allowed in sci?
>inb4 butthurt savage replying with copes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 11:47:27 No.13563841 Report

Quoted By: >>13563887 >>13564109

>>13554983
Fact : Blacks are closer genetically and phenotypically to our human ancestor Homo Heidelbergensis (or apes, see genetic distance of blacks to apes)
Fact : Blacks are a mongrel species formed by Homo Sapiens immigrants and a primitive ancient hominid, as well as more succesful Eurasian populations that would always btfo them and mix them (pure blacks have about 20% primitive hominin DNA).
Fact : Blacks are always at the bottom of IQ in every society.
Fact : blacks were found to have much lower frequencies of genes associated with intelligence than other populations
Fact : The same thing could be said about genes in the context of aggressiveness
Just observing niggers should lead one to the conclusion that they are an inferior, primitve species different from us. The facts pile up and to deny them is costing our civilization a lot.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 11:48:29 No.13563845 Report

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>>13563202
It has a bit more variance on the european side, but that's because Southern Euros are arab mongrels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 12:00:39 No.13563887 Report

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>>13563841
>Blacks are always at the bottom of IQ in every society
abos are worse. Their cranium litterally look like homo erectus btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 12:35:12 No.13563990 Report

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>>13555510
>peer review quality
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 12:43:33 No.13564009 Report

Quoted By: >>13564099

>>13563202
>congitive supremacy of Asians
Asians haven't invented anything noteworthy. The best they can do is come up with some incremental improvements to things Europeans invented. They are really good at memorization and recognizing patterns that have been taught to them.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:09:42 No.13564099 Report

Quoted By: >>13564119 >>13564168 >>13564170 >>13564456 >>13568407

>>13564009
Europeans aren't even capable anymore to produce state-of-the-art computer chips, it's comical at this point. You'll be surprised with how much new inventions east Asians will come up in the next fifteen years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:12:39 No.13564109 Report

Quoted By: >>13564138 >>13564161

>>13563841
>blacks were found to have much lower frequencies of genes associated with intelligence than other populations
That SNP picture people spam is bullshit alongside them not knowing how that shit works and maliciously contorting research to fit their mindset

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:14:52 No.13564119 Report

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>>13564099
All Euros rely are on a few companies that they try to desperately prop up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:21:07 No.13564138 Report

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>>13564109
Why don't any of the leftists in these threads ever produce sources? It's just smug dismissal of endless high quality evidence produced by the other side, and accusations of pol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:23:01 No.13564149 Report

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>>13564138
You aren't even replying to me anon or my point. Don't use my post to start a soapbox rant about the leftist s

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Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:24:24 No.13564159 Report

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>>13558854
race and its implications are intuitively obvious to anyone who goes outdoors, and has the grave misfortune of living in a multi-cult society.
a denial of race is something that has to be carefully trained into people through years of ideological pressure.
you can't bemoan people for expressing a rational interest in something they experience every day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:24:38 No.13564161 Report

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>>13564109
>That SNP picture people spam is bullshit
wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:25:43 No.13564168 Report

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>>13564099
Europeans engineer virtually all state of the art computer chips. The manufacturing stage is outsourced to Asians because we have the process down to the point that even the race of "people" that blow themselves up in Wile E. Coyote tier industrial accidents on a daily basis can't fuck it up.
>be surprised with how much new inventions east Asians will come up in the next fifteen years.
Yes and by then China will surely have a warp drive, quantum radars, and a 20 mile long space station orbiting Alpha Centauri. I'll believe it when I see it but I'm going with the safe bet that Asians will continue to do what they've always done: make shitty copies of things and brag about hypothetical future accomplishments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:26:02 No.13564170 Report

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>>13564099
Honestly this is going to be a big issue going forward.
European elites have failed to properly manage their countries and have instead actively subverted their cohesiveness and productivity all to play games or be pawns for the russians, chinese, and amerigolems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 13:27:10 No.13564172 Report

Quoted By: >>13569833

>>13558854
The most racist people are often those that have to deal regularly with other races.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 14:38:36 No.13564456 Report

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>>13564099
Superpower by 2036

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Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 14:42:18 No.13564482 Report

Quoted By: >>13564604 >>13564635

umm kalahari bushmen bros... we got too cocky

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 14:52:44 No.13564535 Report

Quoted By: >>13564570

why does /sci obsess w/ 'IQ'?

yet, define 'IQ' within the bounds of a 'talent'

may as well chart a bell-curve on 'Vertical Leap'... Let's get a peer-review in here... Level 1 plz

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Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 14:59:50 No.13564570 Report

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>>13564535
Great post. Very thoughtful and high content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 15:05:32 No.13564604 Report

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>>13564482
Holy fuck etiopian jews are dumb.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 15:10:39 No.13564635 Report

Quoted By: >>13564973 >>13564984

>>13564482
Why so many sources?
You've been picking cherries, Chang?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 16:08:11 No.13564871 Report

Quoted By: >>13564884

>>13564570
can't tell if genuine, or sarcastic

we measure IQ like it's a 'talent'
and we come up with these tests and matrices that still have a learnable process and a small culture of people who 'solve' various matrices from IQ or mensa tests...
So we are mostly measuring talent, as best we can. Some learnability/culture/barrier to entry.

but back to the bell-curve...

insight(information, understanding), wisdom(the skilled trade of life/markets/whateverSpecificity...)
and IQ
>voltron
together to form something greater than IQ.
And this thing falls on a 'power law' and not a 'bell curve'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 16:13:00 No.13564884 Report

Quoted By: >>13565054

>>13564871
Hi, you are writing like an actual schizo or stroke victim or something. Get help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 16:38:20 No.13564948 Report

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>>13555760
>falling for stale pasta
it is you that has to go back

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Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 16:45:16 No.13564973 Report

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>>13564635
This map is fake. Lynn estimated Chinese IQ at 105.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 16:47:58 No.13564984 Report

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>>13564635
I'm not a bug btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Aug 2021 17:24:29 No.13565054 Report

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>>13564884
can't tell if genuine, or sarcastic

we measure trolling like it's a 'problem'
and we come up with these mitigation proposals that still have workarounds...
So we have volunteers carry out these mitigation techniques as best we can.

but back to the power-law...

we have a long low 'plateau' (long tail)
>nightcrawler
and you are trapped on that tail

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 03:55:25 No.13566989 Report

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>>13555524
Dilation, now!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:03:06 No.13567010 Report

Quoted By: >>13567022

Unironically, how can people think that an australian aborigine and a german are on the same level of intelligence? I mean, to me at least the cognitive differences between your average black and your average european are so staggeringly obvious that to me you'd have to bury your head in the sand to not notice them.
>inb4 some faggot forgets what averages are and says that this one nigger he met was a proper genius

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:06:30 No.13567018 Report

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>>13560158
>african inventions
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:06:55 No.13567022 Report

Quoted By: >>13567040 >>13567041

>>13567010
Having fun bumping your own threads? Wonder why you bumped this one and not the one where you were exposed as a pseud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:13:56 No.13567040 Report

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>>13567022
Who the fuck are you talking about schizo? Im not op

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 04:14:41 No.13567041 Report

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>>13567022
Meds now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 14:28:16 No.13568322 Report

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>>13554983
interesting yet obscenely offensive premise, let me bump it real quick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 15:07:20 No.13568407 Report

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>>13564099
5 yuan have been deposited to your account

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 17:43:11 No.13568924 Report

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>>13555885
Dimwit cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 20:03:24 No.13569397 Report

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>>13556374
that's not a peer reviewed study

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 21:14:12 No.13569622 Report

Quoted By: >>13569657

>>13558983

>just opened up that study the 0.1 heritability was among poor 7 year olds. You should keep that context since IQ becomes more heritable as people age.

Are you retarded? That's not what heritability means.

0.1 heritability =/= 10% of an individual's IQ is due to their genetics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 21:18:55 No.13569644 Report

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>>13554983
Psychology is not a science, ergo, IQ is not science.
There, I just disproved it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 21:22:10 No.13569657 Report

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>>13569622
It's "10% of the variance in IQ is due to genetics"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 22:02:18 No.13569833 Report

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>>13564172
That's just an excuse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Aug 2021 23:19:04 No.13570098 Report

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>>13554983
Why does it need refuting? There is a link between IQ and race, it's been demonstrated quite clearly. The issue is why that correlation exists, and it's well understood that it's not genetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Aug 2021 12:59:02 No.13571945 Report

Quoted By: >>13572330

Gotta love the janitor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Aug 2021 15:48:53 No.13572330 Report

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>>13571945
This is a scientific thread like it or not

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