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Anonymous Tue 10 Aug 16:49:42 2021 No.13499549 View Reply Original Report

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dream team edition

Previous:>>13496648

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:22:15 No.13502311 Report

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wait did the national team lander not have an airlock?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:22:23 No.13502313 Report

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>>13502300
It’s not

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:22:52 No.13502314 Report

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>>13502302
oh wait I misread your post a bit, about keeping it in orbit vs. single-use case

man, its crazy that we've had manned spaceflight for over 50 years but only just NOW we're finally beginning to work through on exploring/testing/researching the logistics and hardware and everything required for fueling spacecraft in orbit

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:23:16 No.13502315 Report

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>>13502305
>Idk maybe you could covertly just bend one of the million little pieces one millimeter and it would be enough to doom the whole mission
imagine how many pieces are out of spec already

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:24:22 No.13502317 Report

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safety SHOULD be sidelined if it speeds up launch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:24:44 No.13502318 Report

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>>13499826
Conveniently, this misses his most pertinent quote:
>Skyking: "Hey, do you think if I land this sucessfully, Alaska will give me a job as a pilot?"
>F-15 jet pilot: "You know, I think they would give you a job doing anything if you could pull this off."
>Skyking: "Yeah right! ... Nah, I'm a white guy."

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:27:28 No.13502321 Report

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>>13502314
Twelve years of that was because of Shelby. I wonder if it's possible to surprise ship someone a live alligator cash on delivery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:29:17 No.13502325 Report

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>>13502313
M8 that quote is right from the SpaceX proposal. Several tens of tons of propellant absolutely make a difference, for a Starship intending to land back on Earth that could be the difference between landing and not (ie. you'd need to fill up that much more or reduce boil-off).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:29:21 No.13502326 Report

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>>13502314
Yup, the old CEO of ULA mentioned interest in a possible fuel depot and Shelby had the guy fired

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:29:50 No.13502328 Report

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>>13499826
>"What can you expect," some said, "when you take people whose great-great-grandparents were pioneers, grizzly bear hunters, and city-builders and make them baggage handlers, call center operators, and sales clerks?" The general feeling was, "It is a wonder that more of us don't crack from the tedium and meaninglessness of our consumer culture."

damn

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:30:23 No.13502329 Report

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>>13502325
But is it really a problem with recondensors

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:30:27 No.13502330 Report

Quoted By: >>13502335 >>13502340 >>13502346

>sputnik happened in late 1957
>first man on the moon in 1969
11-12 years from orbit to a man on the moon

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:31:28 No.13502331 Report

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>>13502317
safety should NEVER be considered
every single astronaut and payload should be replaceable and insured

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:32:28 No.13502335 Report

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>>13502330
SLS is 11 years old lol
>>13502328
Richard Russell didn’t crack. He just wanted to see if he was really alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:32:51 No.13502337 Report

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>>13502329
For the HLS proposal clearly either there are no recondensers or yes, it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:32:52 No.13502338 Report

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>>13502325
>"Ayoo Elon the tanks brapped too much gas coming back from the moon and now we don't have enough dV to make it all the way we're stuck in LEO can you help?"
>"Yeah no problem senpai"
>Tanker Starship launches to dock with HLS or Tanker Starship pre-staged in orbit for such an occurrence along the agreed upon inclination goes to rendezvous with the Starship

God I love how many possibilities and margins Starship opens up

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:32:53 No.13502339 Report

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>>13502318
how is that the most pertinent? it's just white people wanting desperately to be the victim.

he was still a chad tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:32:57 No.13502340 Report

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>>13502330
And now we'll be seeing a woman on Mars in 2026. Amazing.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:33:52 No.13502343 Report

Quoted By: >>13502345 >>13502360 >>13502378

>13 years of development, 420 Mio $ and they have not got ANYTHING.
>They are another 3+ years & 600 Mio $ away from getting 2 suits.
what happened to the suit that girl showed on stage?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:34:45 No.13502345 Report

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>>13502343
you're never going to have sci fi slim space suits. it's not possible with modern technology. anyone pushing those things is a scammer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:35:03 No.13502346 Report

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>>13502330
People of that era:
- Powerful, "unified" national image (more so than today or ever again)
- Massive amount of passionate engineers who couldn't cheat through schooling like today (more disciplined)
- Lots of funding
- A strong competitor to beat

Recipe for success. I don't think it'll ever happen like that again. The stronk wimin make it happen now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:35:30 No.13502348 Report

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i am angry about space

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:35:42 No.13502349 Report

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>>13502346
It literally was lightning in a bottle wasn't it

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:36:06 No.13502350 Report

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>>13502339
Post nose.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:36:57 No.13502352 Report

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>>13502348
Stay that way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:37:05 No.13502353 Report

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>>13502292
It won't have fins, tiling will be easy.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:38:24 No.13502360 Report

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>>13502343
are you shitting me? 13 years?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:38:38 No.13502362 Report

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>>13502348
AAAAAHHH I’M COOOOMING

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:39:12 No.13502363 Report

Quoted By: >>13502370 >>13502377

>>13502353
>Single base design that requires little modification for a completely different purpose and function

Where has Starship been all this time bros...

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:40:57 No.13502368 Report

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>>13502353
>no fins
>TPS tiling
were you mending or are you retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:41:28 No.13502370 Report

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>>13502363
It would have been here sooner if Mueller wasn’t wasting time in public bathrooms

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:41:44 No.13502371 Report

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>>13502360
its actually 18 years haha

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:42:24 No.13502372 Report

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>>13502368
benefit of the doubt, he forget to edit. Tiling unecessary. If anything the depot variant will be the easiest orbital vehicle they make, barring actual fuel transfer tech working

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:43:38 No.13502376 Report

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>>13502360
JWST has been in development since 1996 don’t ever forget that either

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:43:41 No.13502377 Report

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>>13502363
In our hearts.
>>13502368
As explained in the initial post, tiles painted white to reduce boil off.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:43:45 No.13502378 Report

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>>13502343
A glorified mockup. All the cost of a real spacesuit with none of the functionality. Then stuff it with a poor woman who is straining to hold the heavy thing upright, give it a garish paint job, and invite ALL THE MEDIA. Give a poorly rehearsed speech about the Artemis program, and take some questions you have no answers to (what spacecraft are you using? Who will be the first woman on the moon? what is the exact launch date?). All while the woman in the suit struggles to stand, has no circulating air, and can't even fucking hear what's being said. Smile and nod. Pretend that the past 12 years of R&D were spent wisely.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:43:46 No.13502379 Report

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>>13502370
the extra protein is what allowed him to work so efficiently

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:45:03 No.13502383 Report

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>>13502378
>12 years
anon its been in dev since before constellation

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:45:59 No.13502385 Report

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>>13502378
>has no circulating air,
Seriously? Holy shit, I feel bad for her, but admire her for pushing through that and making it look like it was actually fully functional and working

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:48:52 No.13502387 Report

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Just use a modified hard diving suit. Mass is no longer a big constraint.
It can handle much larger pressure differential than 0.3 to 1 atm, Moon is 1/6g and Mars is 1/3, being heavy is not a priblem.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:53:53 No.13502394 Report

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>>13502326
how foes that even make sense? ULA buys politicians, ULA calls the shots, not the other way around lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:55:20 No.13502396 Report

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>>13502387
this but with a powered exoskeleton

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:55:48 No.13502397 Report

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>ywn serve as a skeleton crew member aboard the USSS Hermann Oberth and get to experience daily Starship docking and prime views of planet Earth
why even live

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:55:48 No.13502398 Report

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Stage Seperation confirmed: >>13502395
>>13502395
>>13502395

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:58:06 No.13502404 Report

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if the 2024/5 goal can no longer be reached
SLS/orion should be scrapped and the funding pumped into starship
doing anything else is wasteful

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 04:58:30 No.13502405 Report

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>>13502378
Anybody else think these contractors probably have no clue what they’re doing because they expected to just sit on that study and design phase money for the next 15 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 05:05:17 No.13502419 Report

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>>13502349
Not really. "Lots of funding" has never really been an issue for the government so much as sustaining that funding over a longer period of time. If strong outside competition doesn't present itself internal competition isn't the hardest thing to find. Reestablishing education standards is harder but really just boils down to hacking away all of the things in "education" that aren't in the least bit about educating. A culture that value has feels pride in the nation its a part of comes naturally once you end the government subsidization of mandates that run counter to that idea; it's not destroyed currently so much as it is heavily suppressed.

It's not a complex thing to recreate, there's just a lot of straightforward work that needs to be done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 05:16:49 No.13502444 Report

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sneed

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 06:06:33 No.13502560 Report

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>>13501601
>https://www.salon.com/2021/08/10/perseverance-rovers-samples-disappeared/
>not a Krystal post
Disappointing.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Aug 2021 07:55:19 No.13502874 Report

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>>13500818
The depot requires modifications for long orbital duration, like solar panels and a cryocooler if you're ambitious
Also it needs to hold the same amount of fuel as the HLS Starship, so stretched tanks.

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