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Anonymous Wed 04 Aug 23:09:21 2021 No.13473150 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13481109 >>13485815 >>13489396

>Australian mathematician discovers applied geometry engraved on 3,700-year-old tablet

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/05/australian-mathematician-discovers-applied-geometry-engraved-on-3700-year-old-tablet

What now you dumb fucking idiots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Aug 2021 21:17:00 No.13477596 Report

Quoted By: >>13477625 >>13479355

>>13476055
m sorry anon but i don't rly understand what u want , u wanted mathematical evdence and u got it itt.
> They only had empirical evidence and heuristic methods.
yeah and ? how is that not math ? m sorry if i am seeming to strawman u but i rly dont understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Aug 2021 21:21:51 No.13477625 Report

Quoted By: >>13479355

>>13477596
>>13476055
>>13474491
>>13474443
https://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub402/entry-6083.html
https://www.space.com/31765-ancient-babylonians-tracked-jupiter-with-math.html
is this what u want anon ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Aug 2021 21:22:53 No.13477631 Report

Quoted By: >>13479362

>>13477544
true , i preffer the old captchas where u had to get the images.
now i need to make efforts ;c

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 05:19:24 No.13479225 Report

Quoted By: >>13479843 >>13479930

so this was before greeks? which civilization does this tablet come from? no i wont read that article fuck guardian.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 06:01:20 No.13479355 Report

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>>13477596
>>13477625
You're a fucking retard and you don't understand what deductive mathematics is all about.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 06:03:02 No.13479362 Report

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>>13477544
>>13477631
Smooth brained retards. When you have an IQ as high as mine you don't even realize your solving the captcha, the answer is just obvious at a glance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 06:05:42 No.13479374 Report

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>>13473206
aren't a lot of legends from ancient greece about societies that apparently existed around this same timeframe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 09:41:24 No.13479840 Report

Quoted By: >>13479960

>>13477343
This raises a question, who was the merchant?
And why was it so important that the consumer spent the time to engrave a reciept for proof of transaction?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 09:42:51 No.13479843 Report

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>>13479225
Babylonian mathematics was pretty advanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 09:49:14 No.13479852 Report

Quoted By: >>13479964 >>13481264 >>13486041 >>13486729

>>13473166
>which killed more advanced civilization
If they were more advanced, where is all the traces of plastics and nuclear reactors?

You do realise that before we had tv's and computers, people had more time to think, and not shit post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 10:31:52 No.13479930 Report

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>>13479225
>fuck guardian.
god bless you anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 10:46:25 No.13479960 Report

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>>13479840
Ea-nasir?
https://joyofmuseums.com/museums/united-kingdom-museums/london-museums/british-museum/complaint-tablet-to-ea-nasir/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 10:48:08 No.13479964 Report

Quoted By: >>13483900

>>13479852
The Bhagavad Gita? also there's a region in I think Rajahstan that's still radioactive with traces of melt glass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 12:24:44 No.13480313 Report

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>>13474440
Base 60 can be counted on fingers. Using your thumb to touch the 3 segments seperated by knuckle lines on each finger.3x4 fingers = 12. After each round throw up a finger on the opposite hand. 5digits x 12 = 60

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 12:32:58 No.13480342 Report

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>>13473382

it's bananas, save your time for something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 14:49:16 No.13480964 Report

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>woah these guys were a bit more efficient in counting grain than these guys!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 15:20:34 No.13481083 Report

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>>13473166
meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 15:21:35 No.13481088 Report

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>>13474072
>The lady says she’s a devout catholic in the beginning
already a huge red flag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 15:26:32 No.13481109 Report

Quoted By: >>13481119 >>13483453 >>13483525 >>13489374

>>13473150
We are heading towards a similar cataclysmic knowledge loss considering our dependency on overly transient information storage methods. We constantly lose knowledge on a generational basis. All it'll take is one cataclysmic event to wipe out millennia of human progress

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 15:28:29 No.13481119 Report

Quoted By: >>13483453 >>13483525 >>13485968

>>13481109
A couple of EMP or solar flares and we're gone.
unless we have inert non combustible and non magnetisable data storage and a way to read them we're toast

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Aug 2021 16:04:30 No.13481264 Report

Quoted By: >>13485778 >>13486041

>>13479852
This. Where is the proof of massive environmental destruction and traces of satellites and other garbage that was sent to space?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 02:44:13 No.13483453 Report

Quoted By: >>13489378

>>13481109
>>13481119
Popsci faggots pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 03:04:48 No.13483525 Report

Quoted By: >>13483571

>>13481109
>>13481119
If this has all happened before, surely we should find artifacts of advanced civilizations. Where are all the ancient landfills filled with mass produced glass bottles? Buried under soil, those should last tens of thousands of years easily. We also don't find any aluminum or stainless steel artifacts.

I do believe that cataclysms in the past have erased knowledge of ancient human civilizations, but I don't believe any of those ancient civilizations had technology comparable to ours. A civilization as advanced as ours leaves behind evidence that lasts for hundreds of thousands of years. Mountaintop removal mining, huge quarries, glass artifacts, ceramic artifacts (we find ancient ceramic, but none of it precise and mass produced, most of it fairly crude and all of it obviously hand made.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 03:21:39 No.13483571 Report

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>>13483525
Yeah I agree with you. I'm not saying we reached that level of advancement since as you said a bunch of evidence even in the geological record would be left behind by absurd amounts of plastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 05:16:10 No.13483900 Report

Quoted By: >>13485843

>>13479964
A fairy tale isn't proof

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 17:50:31 No.13485778 Report

Quoted By: >>13485782 >>13486041

>>13481264
These arguments don't work on conspiracy theorists. Their report is '((they)) have hidden the evidence'. The argument ends there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 17:51:38 No.13485782 Report

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>>13485778
*Retort

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:07:15 No.13485815 Report

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>>13473150

Doesn't surprise me. The Rhind (Ahmes) Mathematical Papyrus is almost exactly that old and it contains several interesting problems in applied mathematics. There is evidence of understanding manipulation of finite series, and beginnings of linear algebra (look up problem 40, the most entertaining one). Also the 2/N table has different calculations given when dealing with primes, which suggests a rudimentary first understanding of primes.

And then outside of Euclid et al it's 3000+ years of AT BEST solving quadratics, over and over again, until things start ramping up in the 16th century. John Derbyshire (based because racist) put it best: "it's depressing to think that it took so long to start developing relatively simple mathematics, but at the same time it's a minor miracle that it happened at all. The moral is that humans are simply not wired for math."

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:17:04 No.13485843 Report

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>>13483900
it's an oddly close description of nuclear explosions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:23:01 No.13485861 Report

Quoted By: >>13485976

Homo sapiens just fucked around for 300,000 years doing absolutely nothing because they just did, okay?!

The science is fucking settled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:54:40 No.13485968 Report

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>>13481119
> combustible and non magnetisable data storage
those are a thing but too expensive and little usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 18:56:40 No.13485976 Report

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>>13485861
>Homo sapiens just fucked around for 300,000 years doing absolutely nothing because they just did, okay?!
Not really, modern Homo sapiens is 5000 years old or less, several high intelligence genectic markers are that new or even more recent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 19:03:45 No.13486010 Report

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>>13473382
>I am onboard with the cataclysms and our past
I recommend visiting the UnchartedX YouTube channel instead, no schizo ramblings and he quotes any image or evidence he uses. This video sold the channel for me:
https://youtu.be/6KUDu40BC5o

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 19:10:57 No.13486041 Report

Quoted By: >>13489312

>>13479852
>>13481264
>>13485778
>where is all the traces of plastics and nuclear reactors
NTA but why do you assume their "technological tree" would look exactly the same as ours? Is it humanity's destiny to develop plastic?
Climate was completely different so necessities were different too, megafauna was a thing, and I've heard people argue they used the Earth's magnetic fields or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 21:58:31 No.13486687 Report

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Am I the only one not susprised at all by mesopotamians having math as advanced as Greek math centuries before?

I don't deny the merit of Greeks, but I think we got what we know from them instead of Mesopotamians for technological and historical reasons, like Mesopotamian astronomer-priests and accountants writing their stuff in clay tablets, using a 4000 years old scrupt designed originally for Sumerian, and in dead languages like Sumerian and Akkadian, so that knowledge didn't spread outside of the cultural bubble of Mesopotamian scribes.

Greeks wrote in Greek, on parchment, using an alphabet, spread all over the med, and Romans copied their culture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 22:11:10 No.13486729 Report

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>>13479852
>You do realise that before we had tv's and computers, people had more time to think
what does this have to do with anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 22:11:57 No.13486733 Report

Quoted By: >>13486787 >>13486874 >>13489387

If they were carving shit into stones they weren’t an advanced civilisation

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Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 22:26:06 No.13486787 Report

Quoted By: >>13486798

>>13486733
I guess that the US do not count as an advanced civilization either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 22:30:19 No.13486798 Report

Quoted By: >>13486874

>>13486787
>>13486787
I just don’t like people pretending that hyper advanced civilisations existed because we found a fucking rock with maths carved into it
No tech, no massive structures, just some basic geometry that they probably used to build temples

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Aug 2021 22:47:15 No.13486874 Report

Quoted By: >>13489365

>>13486733
>>13486798

they weren't carving things in stone, they were carving them in soft clay tablets, that they would later heat to harden
which made sense as technology if you live in a desert crossed by 2 big rivers. it's basically mud. earth+water

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR3zzQP3bII

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 13:48:00 No.13489312 Report

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>>13486041
No, but it's highly likely they would have developed some imperishable materials. A lot of scientific equipment for instance must be imperishable by necessity. How would they have carried out experiments without glass or ceramic equipment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:01:20 No.13489361 Report

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>>13473311
He was a freemason, it was. Foundation as well, it is the masons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:02:46 No.13489365 Report

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>>13486874
cunnyform

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:04:08 No.13489374 Report

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>>13481109
I have been telling people this for a decade. Stupis people dont really care and midwits might care if they had the ability to see 5 mins of their nose, which they cant. Which means the goy are goy for a reason they dont really give a fuck about anythting they cant eat, drink or fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:05:34 No.13489378 Report

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perfect example of the midwit response right here >>13483453

You can literally go back to the stone age in a single generation, that is 20 years you imbecile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:09:28 No.13489387 Report

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>>13486733
>only permanent medium on the planet to leave information for millenia
They were obviously a lot smarter than you

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:09:33 No.13489388 Report

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>>13473652
>>13473677
>>13474376

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Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 14:12:19 No.13489396 Report

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>>13473150
sick OP, whats the point of this thread... maybe post this on the history board, it would be more fitting there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 16:50:18 No.13490043 Report

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>>13474508
The cities were built around the rivers so ocean level was less important.
Also the oldest city in the world was built far above the seal level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Aug 2021 17:09:43 No.13490114 Report

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It's more likely than not we had various civilization attempts prior to what we know historically. Especially because all the old coastline was flooded which is where it would be located.

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