>>3560605>>3560607I feel like this all comes from the fact that people think of "selfishness" as wrong in every aspect no matter what. What is really bad is selfishness above love or pure manipulative selfishness.
>on whether kindness can truly exist without some degree of selfishness, since the happiness of others is it's own reward to kind peopleI agree it's a mix of both, but to apply that here we have to think of Kaworu and his life. He's destined to die and he knows it. He sees no difference between life and death. He's a being that will loop forever. He sees no other choice for him. He met Shinji and found love/happiness and wanted to experience that again, in his tragic life, while helping Shinji get his happiness because he could at least survive and that would be enough for Kaworu to feel happy too. To think that Kaworu wanted happiness too all along, to be free of his fate, in the back of his mind is not so shocking.
This conversation expands on Kaworu's feelings but it doesn't invalidate his feelings for Shinji either.
Kaworu was genuinely happy when he spent time with Shinji, and Shinji was genuinely happy when they met too. We have a scene of Kaworu crying when finally both him and Shinji fully understand eachother, when Shinji will now save him instead of the other way around.
Still this should have had more time in the movie and not just 2 minutes. Also, this doesn't matter in the end because of Shinji creating a new world for Anno's meta message. If this had Shinji getting rid of the Evas and everyone surviving in the Eva world, but finding hope among the destruction, like the people at the village, then this wouldn't be so frustrating to begin with
