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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 10:49:15 2018 No.9883128 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>9883151 >>9883193 >>9883223

>2018
>believing humans have free will

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:04:41 No.9883140 Report

Quoted By: >>9883142 >>9883150 >>9883151 >>9883154

It's not a binary thing jackass. Humans are "reasonably" free willed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:06:16 No.9883142 Report

Quoted By: >>9883147

>>9883140
Define "reasonably"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:08:58 No.9883147 Report

Quoted By: >>9883149 >>9883150

>>9883142
Free willed enough to be judged by their actions by a court of their peers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:11:46 No.9883149 Report

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>>9883147
It doesn't take any free will to be judged by others

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:11:52 No.9883150 Report

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>>9883140
>>9883147
/thread

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:12:54 No.9883151 Report

Quoted By: >>9883153

>>9883128
>>9883140
Define "free will"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:15:12 No.9883153 Report

Quoted By: >>9883157

>>9883151
>let's grind the conversation to a halt by focusing on sophistry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:15:14 No.9883154 Report

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>>9883140
fbpb

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:17:21 No.9883157 Report

Quoted By: >>9883159

>>9883153
How do you know you're talking about the same free will if neither of you defined it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:21:00 No.9883159 Report

Quoted By: >>9883162 >>9883189

>>9883157
I can tell you what's OP retarded definition:
"Not subject yo any physical phenomena in decision-making".

Yes, in this sense we are not free-willed but this is not a definition we use at court of law.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:23:44 No.9883162 Report

Quoted By: >>9883168

>>9883159
Why did you bring up law? What does that have to do with anything?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:27:30 No.9883168 Report

Quoted By: >>9883180 >>9883199

>>9883162
Because this is the only place in real world where we take into account one person's level of free will with serious implications.

Unless you want to have purely academic conversation with no significance you might as well start a thread saying "humans are not unicorns".

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:41:40 No.9883180 Report

Quoted By: >>9883183

>>9883168
How does the law define free will?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:44:08 No.9883183 Report

Quoted By: >>9883187

>>9883180
A regular human not subject to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:46:28 No.9883187 Report

Quoted By: >>9883189

>>9883183
This doesn't sound like the free will OP is talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:48:08 No.9883189 Report

Quoted By: >>9883196

>>9883187
Of course not. See: >>9883159

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:49:36 No.9883193 Report

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>>9883128
>another atheist not believing in free will because the bible says so and their autism demands they be contrarian

grow up faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:52:32 No.9883196 Report

Quoted By: >>9883200

>>9883189
Why did you say it's not binary? OP's definition of free will sounds binary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:52:57 No.9883199 Report

Quoted By: >>9883213

>>9883168
the existence or non-existence of free will has zero effect on the legitimacy of law-enforcement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:53:38 No.9883200 Report

Quoted By: >>9883206 >>9883217 >>9883226

>>9883196
OP's definition is stupid and bears no significance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 11:57:19 No.9883206 Report

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>>9883200
OP defined free will and said humans don't have it, then you just barge in he's wrong because his definition is wrong and that under your definition of free will, he's wrong. How does that make any sense?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:02:39 No.9883213 Report

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>>9883199
Legitimacy aside law also makes a division between coerced and non-coerced person.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:04:57 No.9883217 Report

Quoted By: >>9883222

>>9883200 There's no such thing as "reasonably" free willed you nigger tier retard. You either have Free will, or you don't.

>Free will is the ability to choose between different possible courses of action unimpeded. Free will is closely linked to the concepts of responsibility, praise, guilt, sin, and other judgements which apply only to actions that are freely chosen.

Unless you believe in meta physics, Free will can not exist in a materialistic universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:07:20 No.9883222 Report

Quoted By: >>9883235

>>9883217
There's a gradient to "unimpeded".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:07:28 No.9883223 Report

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>>9883128
You are now controlling your breath with your own free will

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:09:55 No.9883226 Report

Quoted By: >>9883230 >>9883266

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:11:32 No.9883230 Report

Quoted By: >>9883243

>>9883226
>your brain is a compilation of atoms subject to materialistic law
*claps* You want a Nobel with that?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:13:19 No.9883235 Report

Quoted By: >>9883244 >>9883266

>>9883222
>Moving the goal post

Free will is defined as having the ability to make decisions free of environmental causality. Such a concept can only be true if you believe in meta physics.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:16:04 No.9883243 Report

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>>9883230
>Once again moving the goal post

Unless you believe in meta physics(aka "mysticism"), "free will" is an oxymoron.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:16:23 No.9883244 Report

Quoted By: >>9883248

>>9883235
No one is attacking your retarded definition of free will.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:19:40 No.9883248 Report

Quoted By: >>9883254

>>9883244
>Retarded definition of Free will

Changing the definition of Free will doesn't negate the fact that the conventional definition of Free will is false, unless you believe in meta physics("mysticism").

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:22:33 No.9883254 Report

Quoted By: >>9883256

>>9883248
How can a definition be false? Are you retarded?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:24:33 No.9883256 Report

Quoted By: >>9883261 >>9883266

>>9883254 Probably should of specified conventionally defined Free will, is false.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:27:30 No.9883261 Report

Quoted By: >>9883262

>>9883256
You did specify that. But how can a definition of a word be false?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:29:19 No.9883262 Report

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>>9883261 Poor phrasing on my part, what I meant to say was that via the conventional definition of Free will. Such a concept can only be true if you believe in meta physics("mysticism").

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:33:16 No.9883266 Report

Quoted By: >>9883268 >>9883270 >>9883273

>>9883226
>>9883235
>>9883256
Fuck off with your /pol/ memes

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:34:02 No.9883268 Report

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>>9883266
>This mad for some reason

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:34:40 No.9883270 Report

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>>9883266
Nigger

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Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:38:52 No.9883273 Report

Quoted By: >>9883274

>>9883266
> /pol/ memes

We've been posting that shit long before there was a /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jul 2018 12:40:13 No.9883274 Report

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>>9883273
>We
Don't group me with the racists

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