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Is toxoplasmosis real?

Anonymous Wed 15 May 23:57:58 2019 No.10646687 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>10646710 >>10646726 >>10646936 >>10647325 >>10647362 >>10648472 >>10648881 >>10648925 >>10649545

I heard it from Joe Rogan enough times now. Is toxoplasmosis real? Does it make you act crazy/impulsive?
I have an adult cat and 3 kittens... I always wash my hands after I touch them... I have gotten real paranoid about this...

I mean how could you really know what these cats have licked or sat on and whether they are infected or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:06:37 No.10646701 Report

Quoted By: >>10646706

Why the FUCK has no one answered me yet? I'm going to start hurting people if you keep ignoring me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:10:58 No.10646706 Report

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>>10646701
wut?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:12:47 No.10646710 Report

Quoted By: >>10646714

>>10646687
>Is toxoplasmosis real
Yes its fucking real you fucking absolute retard

Go back to /x/

i mean is this even good enough to be on /x/?
Are you stupider than a flat earther....? perhaps

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:15:28 No.10646714 Report

Quoted By: >>10646723 >>10648472

>>10646710
The question is does it make humans act impulsive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:15:36 No.10646715 Report

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Joe Rogan is inquisitive but low IQ.
I watched his talk with Lawrence Kraus yesterday and realised how dumb he really is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:18:27 No.10646723 Report

Quoted By: >>10647144

>>10646714
likely yes, it's been correlated with people getting into more traffic accidents
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29906469
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC117239/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:19:41 No.10646726 Report

Quoted By: >>10646742

>>10646687
It probably doesn't exert a significant impact on the people infected because there are regions of the world where literally 60% of the population tests positive for t. gondii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:24:24 No.10646737 Report

Quoted By: >>10646739 >>10646741 >>10646744

Shit method on the 1st study
>To this end, using a number of search terms, i.e. toxoplasmosis, Toxoplasma gondii, traffic accident, road accident, car accident, crash, and prevalence, literature searches (up to October 1, 2017) were carried out via 6 databases. The meta-analysis was conducted using the StatsDirect statistical software[...]
Fuck off.
The second one says:
>Relative risk of traffic accidents decreases with the duration of infection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:25:01 No.10646739 Report

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>>10646737
i barely read them and just linked top 2 from google
you are welcome to read into the other studies that say it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:26:02 No.10646741 Report

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>>10646737
also
>The subjects with latent toxoplasmosis have significantly increased risk of traffic accidents than the noninfected subjects.
>implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:26:44 No.10646742 Report

Quoted By: >>10646754

>>10646726
Yeah I mean doesn't that explain a lot of things? I think if it's true that t. gondii makes people impulsive then it should be a disqualifying factor for certain jobs.. especially elected politicians

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:27:04 No.10646744 Report

Quoted By: >>10646764 >>10647002 >>10647903

>>10646737
Yeah, I would take any studies claiming t. gondii causes significant behavioral changes in humans with a massive grain of salt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii
>In humans, T. gondii is one of the most common parasites in developed countries;[6][7] serological studies estimate that 30–50% of the global population has been exposed to and may be chronically infected with T. gondii, although infection rates differ significantly from country to country.[8][9]
Anything that applies to potentially half of the world population probably isn't causing blatant behavioral problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:29:42 No.10646754 Report

Quoted By: >>10646764 >>10647329 >>10647903

>>10646742
>Yeah I mean doesn't that explain a lot of things?
Not really, no. That's a funny quip to make for cases like this, but in reality if the attribute you're studying is not only extremely common but the majority way of being for much of the world, outnumbering people who don't have it, then it becomes super-easy to find spurious correlations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 00:32:14 No.10646764 Report

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>>10646754
>>10646744
O.K. I see what you mean, thanks for the help anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 01:43:26 No.10646936 Report

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>>10646687
>I heard it from Joe Rogan enough times now
>Listening to Joe Rogan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 02:14:02 No.10647002 Report

Quoted By: >>10647329 >>10647356

>>10646744
>Anything that applies to potentially half of the world population probably isn't causing blatant behavioral problems.
>implying half the world doesn't have behavioral problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 02:52:58 No.10647144 Report

Quoted By: >>10647892

>>10646723

because they see other cars as mice and hurry to grab them!

duh!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 04:00:25 No.10647325 Report

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>>10646687
>I heard from joe blowgan
You're retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 04:04:45 No.10647329 Report

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>>10647002
>>10646754
>Not really, no. That's a funny quip to make for cases like this, but in reality if the attribute you're studying is not only extremely common but the majority way of being for much of the world, outnumbering people who don't have it, then it becomes super-easy to find spurious correlations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 04:18:07 No.10647356 Report

Quoted By: >>10647903

>>10647002
That's wrong by definition. Behavioral pathologies are defined explicitly in terms of deviation from normality. Half the population (or even more) cannot be abnormal because the very concept of normality is derived from how most people behave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 04:22:05 No.10647362 Report

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>>10646687
there are so many health issues we can't tackle you really would be best not thinking about it. we don't even know how to cure dandruff

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 04:51:02 No.10647403 Report

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If you are so paranoid about it, go down to the vet and have their antibodies checked. If none then no reason to suspect they are carriers. The common househeld cat has no reason to be exposed to it at a suceptible risk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 10:51:43 No.10647887 Report

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there was a screencap about vaginal yeast that can control thot's minds, anyone has it? it has sources and all
>inb4 /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 10:55:18 No.10647892 Report

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>>10647144
cats are the smartest animal on the planet by far

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 11:05:18 No.10647903 Report

Quoted By: >>10647918

>>10647356
>>10646754
>>10646744
Several things to consider. One is how impulsive it makes you. There can be radically impulsive where your behaviour is visibly bizarre then there also can be small effect which isnt noticeable from watching a person or could be just construed as their normal personality. This small effect might even be enough to be associated with higher accident risk.

Also it must be considered how it infects you. Just because it is common doesnt mean it infects people the same way e.g. in your brain or outside your brain. In reality I suspect that most viruses/bacteria have the potential to reek havoc if they get in your brain but most don't. A good example is herpes. More than 50% of people have herpes which is dormant in the peripheral nervous system and occasionally surfaces as cold sores. However rarely, it gets in the brain and it can destroys large parts of it , leaving people with dense amnesia and dementia. Clive Wearing is a good example you can look up. Theres also documentaries on youtube about him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 11:16:10 No.10647918 Report

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>>10647903
Also for the benefit of paranoid people, its unlikely that it infects your brain via being dormant in your peripheral nervous system. Its likely that it gets into your brain via your nose separetly since brain areas typically affected are close to the olfactory part of your brain. Unfortunately, probably because of the evolutionary importance of smell in mamals, the olfactory parts of the brain heavily connect to parts of your brain known for emotion and memory.

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Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 13:50:26 No.10648162 Report

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>Is toxoplasmosis real?
Yes. Yes it is you fucking vegetable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 13:54:28 No.10648174 Report

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Yes it is. No, dogfags on /an/ don't know what they're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 15:43:41 No.10648413 Report

Quoted By: >>10648429 >>10648949

If theres a pathology that has infected a huge chunk of the population, and has existed for a long time, we should just start calling it a part of human biology. If it mattered at all, and it its been around for a long time, human evolution has already accounted for it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 15:51:34 No.10648429 Report

Quoted By: >>10648873

>>10648413
>If theres a pathology that has infected a huge chunk of the population, and has existed for a long time, we should just start calling it a part of human biology.
Exactly. There isn't some magical pure state of normality that exists independent of the circumstances of our species and its emergence over time including interactions with and influences from bacteria. Normality can only ever be defined through the way the majority of us operate. It's not a pathology if it's something the majority of us have or do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 16:10:20 No.10648472 Report

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>>10646687
>I always wash my hands after I touch them
I am a biologist and if you forget about parasites you will have a better life...this fuckers are better that roaches
>>10646714
nobody knows for certain, i.e. there`s a parasite who acts different on certain mammal, they do the insect cycle instead of the common shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 19:24:12 No.10648873 Report

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>>10648429
But that normality varies. For instance in disgusting mainland europe the majority of people do have toxoplasmosis but in the superior uk, a far smaller proportion of the populace has it in comparison. We may have terrible insulation but atleast we dont live in cat shit like the italians, french and germans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 19:29:48 No.10648881 Report

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>>10646687
It makes you more amenable to cats. It also makes you unable to detect their bad smells. The cats are brainwashing you to take care of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 19:50:33 No.10648925 Report

Quoted By: >>10649211

>>10646687
Could it be that toxoplasma gondii may be sort of symbiotic for some people?

> toxoplasmosis causes elevated levels of dopamine leading possibly to schizophrenic behavior
>schizophrenia linked to excess dopamine in brain
>adhd linked to scarcity thereof

what if the reason "cat people are more intelligent"is because the parasite accidentally alieves symptoms of adhd?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 20:01:08 No.10648949 Report

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>>10648413
>t. toxoplasmosis npc

toxoplasma literally makes you dumber, shit at driving, more sociable, and worsens your temper. It pretty much goes against everything I stand for

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 21:37:13 No.10649211 Report

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>>10648925
Some people do have both schizophrenia and adhd. more complicated than just >muh dopamine huuurrrr durrrrbyyydurrrduurrrurr

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Anonymous Thu 16 May 2019 23:41:09 No.10649545 Report

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>>10646687
>Joe Rogan
'Is X real?'

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