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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 15:24:36 2021 No.5692752 View Reply Original Report

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Has art helped your mental health?

Ever since I started drawing a lot a few years ago, I lost my depression and I see the world with a fresh child-like sense of wonder. I think it's because it trains your eye to notice things more and you start to notice how beautiful everything in life is

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 15:27:37 No.5692755 Report

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>>5692752
It turns you into a bitter jealous and envious type person I don't like it but it is what it is you can't go without seething at somebody else when you are deprived of any form of acknowledgment.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 15:29:29 No.5692761 Report

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>>5692752
Yes, if I don't have drawing as a hobby I would probably have killed myself a few years ago ngl.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 15:50:22 No.5692787 Report

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>>5692755
holy ngmi
stop being a tranny

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 18:23:51 No.5693059 Report

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>>5692752
>I lost my depression and I see the world with a fresh child-like sense of wonder. I think it's because it trains your eye to notice things more and you start to notice how beautiful everything in life is
absolutely this fren, there's nothing i'd rather be doing than this

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 18:41:32 No.5693109 Report

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This, I was planning on just killing myself last year until I really got into art. Doing observational work made me realize how pretty everything looks, and all I want to do now is live long enough to see and experience everything

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Anonymous Thu 21 Oct 2021 06:19:52 No.5694004 Report

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>>5692755
chill your ego.Not every artist has to be envious or jealous of another artist's art. Everyone got their own uniqueness and way to express things.
Art is about expression, not a contest of dick measuring.
>Also jealousy and envy are NGMI traps

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Anonymous Thu 21 Oct 2021 07:01:22 No.5694049 Report

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>>5692752
I used to dwell in the past and be bitter about how I have wasted my entire life, trying out coding and art turned me into a more forward-looking person. I realized that even if they're (still) shit, planning and creating games, comics etc. myself is much more fun and interesting than almost all of media.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Oct 2021 07:26:04 No.5694075 Report

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>>5692752
felt like i have a purpose now

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Anonymous Fri 22 Oct 2021 21:12:07 No.5696814 Report

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>>5692752
I've drawn for a while so I don't know if it's had that kind of effect on me or not, but I felt exactly the same when I started getting into photography. I think you're exactly right, if you're really getting into a medium that relies heavily on aesthetics then it's only natural to start noticing and appreciating the same IRL.

>>5692755
Project harder, faggot. Normal people don't think like this

>>5692787
>everyone I don't like is a transsexual
You're also ngmi

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Anonymous Fri 22 Oct 2021 21:16:43 No.5696817 Report

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>>5692755
It's more than likely you were already a bitter jealous and envious piece of shit, since art often forces you to compare yourself with others because it's entirely visual, you are forced to expose your piece of shit self rather than hide it like you usually do

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Anonymous Fri 22 Oct 2021 21:24:09 No.5696828 Report

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>>5692752

It's relaxing af, honestly, and a nice way to unwind after getting mindfucked by the day's work.

Conversely, ever since me mum found my first sketchbook, I've become more paranoid...

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Anonymous Fri 22 Oct 2021 21:50:16 No.5696867 Report

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I recently had a breakthrough getting into a zone in a drawing.

I've going to a life drawing class twice a week. The first like like 8 weeks I was frustrated and stressed out by how bad I was and I was exhausted after every session. Like I was doing shitty proko gesture stick figures and the teacher had to wipe those bad habits from me so they were correcting me a lot.
Then I started repeating the lesson/topic (e.g. torso anatomy or lighting or gesture) from the life drawing class that week at home which built a bit more confidence when I went in.

Then one class I just suddenly fell into a zone and felt confident and purposeful drawing. I just worked without pause and used the stuff I had practiced and the drawings came out a bit better. But it felt like I was watching myself draw in the third person or something. Like someone else had possessed me.
I'm still beg tier but it just finally felt SATISFYING to draw and I didn't feel anxious or stressed. I didn't want the session to end that day.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 00:13:50 No.5697042 Report

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The opposite. I curse having talent.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 00:24:36 No.5697060 Report

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>>5692752
I've come to the conclusion that drawing sad things doesn't make you feel better if you are sad.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 01:23:48 No.5697123 Report

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>>5696867
he talks about this feel a lot in this video. It helped me a lot with reliably getting into that state of mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b11vl5z7shY

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 01:44:24 No.5697141 Report

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>>5692752
I am having so much fun drawing, anons. For the first time in a long while I am truly, profoundly happy. I was in a big depressive slump since the start of the year and haven't been able to pick up the pen in months, but two weeks ago I just got off my ass and forced myself to draw something.

I have been drawing every day since, and I cannot stop. I don't recall why I ever stopped in the first place. Since that day I started working out again and have been eating healthier too.

Every single day more and more of the brain fog fades as the fun in drawing continues to grow. I'm gonna make it, bros. We all are.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 02:31:32 No.5697189 Report

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>>5692752
It's nice to have something to work on, but replacing my depression with pain and misery over drawing like crap probably isn't much better

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 03:01:49 No.5697223 Report

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>>5692752
Comfy OP

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 03:03:54 No.5697228 Report

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>>5692755
While definitely not the norm this kind of mindset seems pretty common. It's sad. Why don't you just draw for the sake of it? For the fun?
There's always someone that's gonna be better than you out there, in anything you try. You don't need to be the best, neither can you be the best at everything. Instead of being jealous, be inspired.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 04:04:43 No.5697300 Report

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>>5697228
You are right about all of that, except
>You don't need to be the best, neither can you be the best at everything. Instead of being jealous, be inspired.
This while being well intentioned, is still the wrong mindset, or at the very least confuses the issue for anons like that. Because at its heart, being "inspired" is still comparison, which is bound to go wrong for anons that struggle with pride. Which is entirely what that is.
The act itself is the value, and also produces it. Everything else is dead weight.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 04:06:43 No.5697304 Report

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well it stops me from being a predator in real life, so it's done the job it has to.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 04:07:21 No.5697305 Report

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>>5692752
I think art itself has been completely neutral in that regard for me, in and of itself. But it sounds like you're on the right track opp

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 04:16:33 No.5697317 Report

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>>5697304
Has it? Or has it just made a comfortable allowance for something with the potential to go terribly wrong in the future? Indulging in it versus having practiced confronting it?
I can only hope you are right of course. And moreso that you're actually being honest. But just judging from what I've seen in passing here, I tend to believe neither.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 04:41:22 No.5697358 Report

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It helps to cope with depression at best, but it doesn't solve it. I have found the opposite, my art improved when I became mentally healthier.
Also it depends if you do it as a hobby or as a profession. Like any other hobby, it's fun and helps you connect with other people and learn interesting stuff.
But if you are pushing yourself really hard, as if you want to actually make it, it can be really stressful. If you are depressed to begin with, pursuing a creative career can really wear you out. 50% of the people I know that work in the industry don't seem very happy, they are rather jaded about art.
Illustration/animation/comic are one of the most underpaid skilled jobs. I know I went off a tangent, but I wish someone redpilled me on this years ago, when I had the newbie zeal (the only perk of being a beginner probably) so I thought twice before throwing my life away.
For some reason people that are already mentally fucked are more drawn to art so they are prone to make emotional decisions based on an already negative mindset, hence they are shitty decisions.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 06:05:35 No.5697508 Report

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>>5697317
You're not obligated to believe in anything anyone says here, anon. No less from someone who admits what I did.
I mean, for me, it really just is a narrative escape. The law doesn't concern me anymore, but I genuinely have no actual desire to go about it because I acknowledge the very real issue of the victim that's bound to follow her. Best keep it on a sheet if I feel the need and walk off after. Therapy didn't work, repression only makes it grow. Art is my safest option, and as far as I'm concerned, the safest option for everyone involved. I work a normal job, have a fairly normal life, I just need to get aggressive in the imaginary world of my degeneracy. Really it.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Oct 2021 06:11:19 No.5697515 Report

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>>5692752
Art saved me. I was the classic serial killer until i found art. Turns outs, i am like a serial killer with no ambition. Age of 4 start killing every pet i have. Age 7 kicking cats, playing with fire and biting other kids. Age 14 have plans to murder the bullies in my school. Found art and magicially, in a most divine and unlikely way found God. Learnt to be less evil. Do art everyday, dont harm people. Dont want to go back to hell. Life is good. Become grateful to be alive. Grateful to be able to create art everyday. Hate most people but happy most of the time.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Oct 2021 04:53:26 No.5699407 Report

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>>5697508
I hear you. But what i'd try to offer isn't repression, it's replacement. Specifically of the things that feed the impulse. Including the values that create it. It doesn't happen in a vacuum like so many people say. There are mechanisms behind it, and absolutely devastating mechanisms even within the fantasy in my humble opinion.
But, I believe there is help for it. When I started out i used to think little of it. What finally took me off the fence permanently where it's concerned is knowing damn well somewhere, some real harm is likely to come of it. From someone that like I said, cares less, or has less control. I couldn't live with it.
But I hope that you can find your freedom from it yet.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Oct 2021 08:13:42 No.5699545 Report

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>>5692752
Yeah, learning about color and light makes you appreciate things a lot more. Drawing is also akin to medidation once you get in to the zone and I find that it helps with my anxiety immensely.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Oct 2021 08:48:05 No.5699581 Report

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>>5699407
I agree with you that nothing exists in vacuum, but I seriously doubt anything will come to physical fruition from a book I don't post anywhere. I'm not one for a moralist approach on the matter, so the degeneracy of fantasy doesn't concern me. If little girls get their rocks off to One Direction Kidnapping, rape and incest fanfiction, and walk off relatively Fine, I'm sure I'll be alright to. Nothing has really granted me any "freedom" outside the occasion of drawing; arguments can be had for the subconscious, sure, its a nuanced subject. I do hike daily and it's quite beneficial, I'll give you that for a differing approach.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Oct 2021 09:30:17 No.5699609 Report

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>>5692752
>constantly depressed

I feel like everyday I wakeup and all I see is grey, my surroundings are just monochromatic everywhere I look. Even typing this anon feels unreal. I pick up a pen and draw anything that's surreal because that is all my mind sees now. I feel a lot better because I know someday someone will find my sketchbooks and hopefully feel what I was feeling.

also any tips on digital art? I got this bum ass $60 tablet from wacom and I wanna get into digital art to save some money.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Oct 2021 09:46:51 No.5699618 Report

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Yes and no. In some ways, it's helped:
>gave me a sense of purpose in life
>makes me feel less of a useless slob when I complete or work on something
>gives structure, since I plan out/schedule my drawings
>gave me a new perspective on simple things, appreciating the little beauties - things like how like interacts with matter, and how wonderfully complex color really is
>met a couple awesome people through artwork
but in some ways, it's also made it worse:
>feel a deep sense of inadequacy when something I worked really hard on gets very little attention: days, sometimes weeks, of work...nothing.
>feelings of loneliness since almost no one(that I've discovered) seems to be into the same things I am, outside of vague and broad subjects
>a bitter, destructive envy towards the successes of others, incapable of feeling happy for their triumphs, which in turn, leads to self-loathing for being such a self-centered entitled piece of shit. The envy is at its strongest when seeing someone who isn't even that good at art suddenly attract a huge amount of adoration.
>a constant despair that I'll never "make it" anywhere with my work, no matter how good I get
>a persistent nagging thought that nothing I ever make or do will be "good enough."

It's given me structure and direction, but hasn't helped at all with self-destructive and asocial, schizoid behavior.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 00:49:03 No.5700782 Report

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>>5692752
For me, art has been both a blessing and a curse.

A blessing in that it gave me a new way to express myself. After a long hard day, it helps to make some doodles to get some stress out. Taking a break from my work to just draw also reduces a lot of stress.

Its a curse in that it is extremely frustrating to get good. Almost every serious practice session feels like a mini battle. However, after those battles, I often feel better, like i accomplished something. Its a lot more satisfyingly that passing a level in a vidya.

I am happy you are so optimistic OP! You have a better attitude that most bitter "artists" on this board.

God Speed with your art journey OP!

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 00:51:42 No.5700787 Report

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>>5699609
Unrelated. Your pic reminded me how beautiful SEL looks

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Anonymous Mon 25 Oct 2021 01:00:07 No.5700800 Report

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>>5699609
Bro, i feel you. Dont live in quiet desperation. Rise to the ocassion and get shit done. You are leaving messages in a bottle and throwing it into the sea, hoping someone will find it. You know what is better? You leave that island and explore new worlds. Find your goal in life. Dont become part of the monochrome. You got this.

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