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Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 05:00:35 2021 No.5227167 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>5228108 >>5228174 >>5229125 >>5229169 >>5230119 >>5230487

Don't delete this thread, I'm just looking to learn
How can I improve?
What should I use? What am I doing wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 15:37:56 No.5228075 Report

Quoted By: >>5228077

>>5228070
No, I want you to finish something. We are going to define "finish" for the time being as meaning a "fully rendered piece" even if the proportions are wrong. It just *has* to be fully sketched and shaded in with values achievable with a #2 pencil.

I want you to do this for the same reference until you are happy with it. Show us every single one of these attempts. I promise to be nearby and comment on every last one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 15:38:40 No.5228077 Report

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>>5228051
But then again, I wonder on what you think, are you the same guy going on about low visual IQ? What a fucking moron lmao
ARE YOU THE SAME GUY?
GIVE ME YOUR APPROVAL, I NEED VALIDATION AND APPROVAL
WHAT KIND OF PROGRESS SHOULD I EXPECT
100 HOURS
EXACTLY
ILL DELIVER BUT YOU BETTER DO
OR ELSE
OHHHHHHHHHH
SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS
>>5228051
so WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MY LACK OF PROGRESS? HAVE YOU SEEN MY FIRST
DRAWING YET? HAVE I IMPROVED YES OR NO> THINK I CAN BE LIKE MY HEROES OR IS HE RIGHT >>5228034

NOt like I ve been counting the days but its been 25
damn i miss you tonight
>>5228075
pLEASE JUST TELL ME
I need to hear what you think, I need validation from you
you were lowkey nice to me in your post anon just help me please ILL DO IT alright

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 15:41:28 No.5228088 Report

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>>5228053
SHOW ME SOMEONE WHO TOLD ME NOT TO GIVE UP
IN ALL THE THREADS IVE MADE I ONLY WANTED FOR SOMEONE TO SUDDENLY SEE SOMETHING I CANT
PROGRESS
WORTH
VALIDATION
SOMEONE TO TELL ME TO DO IT, TO KEEP AT IT WITH EVIDENCE THAT I
THAT I CAN IMPROVE
YOURE THE ONLY WHO KNOWS ME BABE
SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS
BEFORE THE X RATED DREAMING
YOU KNOW I LIVE FOR THE HUSTLE
BUT DAMN I MISS YOU TONIGHT
I ONLY WANTED SOMEONE TO CHECK IF THERES POTENTIAL
I NEVER GOT THAT
BECAUSE I LACK IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 15:43:20 No.5228093 Report

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>>5228053
>>Hey should I quit?
>>"No"
show me where someone said that in all of my threads
no one ever did
SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS
cant deeeal

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 15:50:04 No.5228106 Report

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>>5228053
>>Hey should I quit?
>>"No"
SHOW ME SOMEONE WHO DID
BECAUSE I ONLY GOT PEOPLE TELLING ME THAT IM TALENTLESS
THAT I SHOULD GIVE UP
>>5227177
>>5227185
>>5227203
>>5227222
>>5227224
>>5227228
>>5227289
>>5227304
>>5227308
>>5227362
>>5227398
>>5227397
>>5227402
>>5227411
>>5227413
>>5227417
>>5227418
>>5227427
>>5227423
>>5227436
>>5227451
>>5227442
>>5227887
>>5227933
>>5227968
>>5227978
>>5227996
>>5228025
>>5228038
>>5228034
>>5228052
>>5228056
AND I'M OUT AT A PARTY, THEY'RE PLAYING OUR SONG
I CRY ON THE DANCE FLOOR, IT'S SO EMBARRASSING
DON'T SEND ME PHOTOS, YOU'RE MAKING IT WORSE
'CAUSE YOU'RE SO HOT IT'S HURTING MY FEELINGS
I GET A LITTLE LONELY
GET A LITTLE MORE CLOSE TO ME
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS ME, BAAAABE
SO HOT YOU'RE HURTING MY FEELINGS
WOOOOOO
CAN'T DEAL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 15:51:06 No.5228108 Report

Quoted By: >>5228117

>>5227167
Yes, but you won't.

Something that would take a week to a random will take a year or more for you.

Why?

Because you clearly have some type of mental illness.

May you sneed and feed in peace.

KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME

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KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME Wed 24 Feb 2021 15:54:14 No.5228117 Report

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>>5228053
SEE? SEE>
IF I HAD TALENT
IF I HAD WORTH
IF I WASNT INFERIOR
IF I HAD POTENTIAL
SOMEONE WOULD HAVE ALREADY NOTICED
BUT NO ONE DID
NO ONE DOES
NO ONE CAN EVER FOOL THEMSELVES OR LIE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CANT DEAL
SHOW ME THE BANANA NA NA NA NA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>5228108

KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME

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KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME Wed 24 Feb 2021 15:55:32 No.5228119 Report

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AND I'M OUT AT A PARTY, THEY'RE PLAYING OUR SONG
I CRY ON THE DANCE FLOOR, IT'S SO EMBARRASSING
DON'T SEND ME PHOTOS, YOU'RE MAKING IT WORSE
'CAUSE YOU'RE SO HOT IT'S HURTING MY FEELINGS

KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME

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KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:02:21 No.5228139 Report

Quoted By: >>5228145 >>5228152

>>5228053
>>Hey should I quit?
>>"No"
noONE EVER DID
NO ONE EVER DID
EVERYONE WANTS ME TO QUOT
WHY?
WHY ME?
EVERYONE WANTS ONLY ME TO QUIT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:04:03 No.5228145 Report

Quoted By: >>5228153

>>5228139
I want you to quit spamming and shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:06:43 No.5228152 Report

Quoted By: >>5228160

>>5228139
>nobody ever quit
are you fucking retarded?

KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME

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KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:06:47 No.5228153 Report

Quoted By: >>5228159

>>5228145
NO ONE EVER TOLD ME NOT TO QUIT DRAWING
YOU ALL HATE ME
YOU THINK IM INFERIOR
WORTHLESS
TALENTLESS
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO
DISAGREE
I GET A LITTLE LONELY
GET A LITTLE MORE CLOSE TO ME
YOURE THE ONLY WHO KNOWS ME BABE
SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS
CANT DEAL WOOOO SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS CANT DEAL WOOOO
SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS CANT DEAL WOOOOOO SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS CANT DEAL WOOOO SO HOT YOURE HURTING MY FEELINGS CANT DEAL WOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:08:02 No.5228157 Report

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He has unleashed his final schizo form

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:09:59 No.5228159 Report

Quoted By: >>5228178

>>5228153

I hope you get range banned

KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME

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KILL ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT CREATE ME Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:10:14 No.5228160 Report

Quoted By: >>5228168

>>5228152
WHAT A FUCKING MORON
WITH NO READING COMPREHENSION
YOURE A DUMB PRIMATE DUMB HUMAN
NO ONE EVER TOLD ME NOT TO QUIT
HOW CURIOUS?
WHY'S THAT?
ITS LIKE ASKING YOUR SO IF YOURE PRETTY
THEY HAVE TO SAY YES
ALWAYS OTHERWISE THEY HATE YOU AND PLAN TO BETRAY YOU
IF THERES HESITATION EVEN FOR ONE SECOND EVEN FOR ONE SECOND IN THEIR VOICE YOU HAVE TO DITCH THEM
THEY WANT TO BETRAY YOU SO YOU MUST BETRAY THEM FIRST
THATS HOW IT WORKS
SO I ASKED
>AM I TALENTLESS>? AM I TALENTLESS? SHOULD I QUIT?
AND NO ONE EVER TOLD ME
NO!
SO THAT MEANS YOU WANT ME TO QUIT ART AND ONLY ME
BECAUSE YOU NEVER FELT POTENTIAL IN ME
NO ONE EVER DID

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:12:30 No.5228168 Report

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>>5228160
you're the one who is incomprehensible
quit drawing cause it is ruining your mental health, there is your reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:13:51 No.5228172 Report

Quoted By: >>5228190

>>5227967
And therein lies the problem.
You arent learning to draw for the sake of drawing, you learning to draw so you could tell stories. Its two completely different things.
My advise: learn to ENJOY drawing as is. If not, you will become more and more upset with each mistake and failure, it might even come to the point when holding pencil is painful. Thats what happened to me anyway.

And also try being "creative" (whatever that means) and begin to actually make comics. Yes, they most likely will look like shit, but this is a step in the right direction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:14:33 No.5228174 Report

Quoted By: >>5228176

>>5227167
Stop attention whoring so much, retard. Post in the /beg/ generals.
Also take your fucking medications.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:15:21 No.5228176 Report

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>>5228174
>Post in the /beg/ generals.
They don't deserve to suffer
/beg/ has been full of nice people this year

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:15:34 No.5228177 Report

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Can a mod please ban this autismo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:15:55 No.5228178 Report

Quoted By: >>5228192

>>5228159
he's a janny apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:18:37 No.5228190 Report

Quoted By: >>5228552

>>5228172
Bad advise here, art requires high IQ, more than 150 IQ, going for an art career is similar to a space engineering career.
Not for everyone

OP be a drug dealer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:18:54 No.5228192 Report

Quoted By: >>5228197

>>5228178
If he was he'd be banning people left and right, I think.
He is very mean-spirited

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:19:45 No.5228195 Report

Quoted By: >>5228221

I think you have potential from the bird doodles you've shown, they're dynamic and interesting, do you enjoy drawing animals? Because I think you're very good at it. Don't bother about time being wasted, drawing is drawing and drawing is fun. Who cares about the rest? /ic/ is obsessed with this ngmi idea, but in reality, it's fake.

Look, the only way you'll feel better and happy is to seek professional mental health. They're here to help you. They will never do harm to you, no matter what you're telling yourself or whoever is telling you this. There's telltale signs of schyzophrenia in your art. It's not the end of the world! My friend has it, and he has a stable job as a music producer.

If you see a psychiatrist, I'll guarantee you'll be happier, and then you can come back and show us more of your art, but remember: There is no magic trick to improving. Just love what you do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:21:20 No.5228197 Report

Quoted By: >>5228248

>>5228192
janny's can't ban, they just remove threads and replies and submit ban requests to proper mods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:30:58 No.5228210 Report

Quoted By: >>5228256

>>5228051
Come on, don't be cruel. OP is an idiot, but he doesn't deserve fucking bargue plates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:34:28 No.5228221 Report

Quoted By:

>>5228195
Best post ITT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:38:59 No.5228235 Report

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Why this retard not get banned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:44:27 No.5228248 Report

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>>5228197
Once again the jannies are trannies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 16:50:46 No.5228256 Report

Quoted By: >>5228284

>>5228210
Everyone here deserves to do them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 17:00:39 No.5228284 Report

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>>5228256
Get thee behind me, Satan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 17:19:14 No.5228340 Report

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Sneed and Feed schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 19:13:57 No.5228540 Report

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>>5227179
>logically I should be better, it's math
No it's not, and that thinking doesn't bode well for your art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 19:18:10 No.5228547 Report

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>>5227194
>I'm not used to thinking on my own, the concept of choice is new to me, and acting on it, I have no practice on it

Cut yourself off fromthe web then. I learned to draw without this shit funnel we call the Internet stuck to my mouth and my art is infinitely better for it. I'd probably have despised drawing if my first experience of it had been tainted by social media, 4chan, bone dry loomis books or, worst of all, the obnoxious gumfaced youtube art celebrities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 19:20:34 No.5228552 Report

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>>5228190
The drug dealers I know are smarter and more resourceful than OP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 20:37:44 No.5228694 Report

Quoted By: >>5229143

i just wanna tell you how much I appreciate you making your own threads instead of spamming other threads. This way you get the attention you want and we don't have our threads spoiled. everybody will have a good time :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 23:16:33 No.5229086 Report

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>>5227979
I'm not sure how this contradicts that post

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 23:35:18 No.5229125 Report

Quoted By: >>5229513

>>5227167
25+ years spent on art garbage.
Have studied everything, have practiced for years.
I knew I was bad but damn.
Op has a solution unlike me, a 50 yr old garbage that can't do shit.

You can as well give up Op.
The sanest thing to do.
I encourage you to give up if you don't see results like me (which I see it isn't your case)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 23:45:07 No.5229143 Report

Quoted By: >>5229148

>>5228694
He's been doing both his own threads and spamming others though...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 23:47:50 No.5229148 Report

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>>5229143
This. Would be better if he didn’t post at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Feb 2021 23:54:49 No.5229169 Report

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>>5227167
How about you actually finish a piece instead of doing these half baked sketches?

You improve by comparison. Sure you'll feel inferior, but think of it as the first step toward improvement. It clearly defines the gap you need to cross to reach your goal.

You can use references or other art pieces to compare. Look for changes in shape and values. Also study the nature of physics in the reference (EXTREMELY important for realistic depictions), such as light, weight and materials.

If you want to draw from imagination then you'll also have to gather world knowledge - this includes studf like anatomy and engineering. This allows you to create familiar stuff without adhering completely to a reference.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 01:25:46 No.5229314 Report

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OP I resonate with you. Many people call you a whiner and they say mean things and you have to accept that what they say is true if you're constantly making threads like this.
However, what should practice is mindfulness. You're too far in your own head. This leads to self-doubt. You fish for compliments to try to feel better, but they don't do anything for you. You fish for people telling you to give up, that you're garbage, that you're worthless etc. to affirm your worldview, even though you know it hurts you. Its neurotic, and I understand what you're going through because I am the same way. I started practicing art because I needed to do something amazing. It didn't even matter what I did, I just needed to do something to ensure that people like me, and think I'm great. However this is a perversion of the love of art. Even now I still have the part of my mind that is screaming and yelling at me, telling me that I have to be the best, otherwise no one will love me, but at the same time telling me that I'll never be the best. There's no way you can properly improve with this emotional distress in the back of your mind. Try to start taking time out of your day to meditate. Try to focus on catching and stopping your mind when its trying to feed your self-doubt. You have to be able to believe in yourself otherwise you're always going to have this shadow of self-doubt looming over you, holding you back.
To be honest, I have to thank you. Seeing your thread has given me a new perspective on my own problems since I believe we are alike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 01:38:02 No.5229337 Report

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Critique your own drawings and post them to /beg/ with you own critique. This will help you improve what you can't see already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 03:29:23 No.5229511 Report

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Oh god it's the schizo guy again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 03:30:26 No.5229513 Report

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>>5229125
You... made this after 25 years of drawing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 06:49:01 No.5229803 Report

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>>5227267
you have fucking issues anon.
your art is shit because it looks like you aren't even trying. you have to try harder than somebody with natural talent

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 11:32:42 No.5230084 Report

Quoted By: >>5230128

Did he get rangebanned already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 12:06:06 No.5230119 Report

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>>5227167
I gave you some advice in the vent thread. What happened?

>How can I improve?
Where do you want to improve on? If you're talking about art in general, then that's a little harder but keen observation will teach you skills that you'll be sure adapt into your drawings. I'll say, I don't always recommend going off of photos as references for a beginner since you're essentially comparing your 2D rendition to another 2D work. The experience of rendering a live 3D model onto a 2D space forces you to learn things without always checking to see how well you copied a photo 1:1.

>What should I use?
Your head and wit. Seriously, people just randomly draw without thought but it takes some critical thinking to actually work on improving your craft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 12:16:27 No.5230128 Report

Quoted By:

>>5230084
he took his meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 16:24:36 No.5230487 Report

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>>5227167
Draw over and replicate different styles you like until you can produce something in the same style

And then when you are big brain mend the styles together in a way that isnt cancer

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