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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 18:53:25 2020 No.4316665 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4338548

>be me
>Draw pic of full front female looking straight at the camera
>Looks like a goddess/feelsgood
>Flip canvas
>Transforms into quasimodo!
..Why is my brain like this guys?!! Why can't it just get it fucking right?! I've done all that was asked of me (loomis/fundamentals etc), why won't the fucking lines and shapes just go where I want them to?!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 10:21:52 No.4335343 Report

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>>4335235
Hard work beats talent

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 10:31:28 No.4335354 Report

Quoted By: >>4335571 >>4336968

>>4335041
an hour a day isn't very much.

the secret that isn't a secret to art is that getting better is basically just a matter of drawing a lot. like a lot, a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 11:18:30 No.4335401 Report

Quoted By: >>4335571 >>4336968

>>4335041
>I try to draw every day even an hour,
You won't see shit on an hour a day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 11:32:51 No.4335425 Report

Quoted By: >>4335554

>>4335199
maybe you try too hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 13:02:55 No.4335554 Report

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>>4335425
Maybe. There was a guy in my graphics class playing a switch and I walked up to him asked him if he wanted to play a game together. He said yes but looking back on it i might have pressured him into it. I think i was the only one enjoying the experience anyway... I asked him again a few more times and he always said he was busy.
Perhaps i'm just not very approachable. Could be my face. I tried talking to other people about different things the conversations are cut short. I probably get talked negatively about when i'm not looking

I guess i'll stop actively looking and wait for someone to approach me. Just frustrating

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 13:24:12 No.4335571 Report

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>>4335354
>>4335401
Is this how you justify drawing zero hours a day?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 14:08:58 No.4335591 Report

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>only thing i want to do at all is learn how to draw
>drawing the same shit over and over to get better is excruciating
>don't want to figure draw because it will look like shit
>don't want to draw something original because it will look like shit
FUCK EVERYTHING

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 14:50:50 No.4335617 Report

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>>4335235
for the art one you can do that after studying and internalizing the construction of the head and learning basic color theory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 14:55:25 No.4335624 Report

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>>4317102
Source: anon's head

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 15:00:17 No.4335631 Report

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>>4335235
wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 15:02:19 No.4335633 Report

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>>4335235
>imagine being one of the one in 8 million people who can blend colors accurately

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 15:39:04 No.4335668 Report

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>>4335232
I started at 23. I wish I started at 19. I empathize with your frustration, but you’ve got lots of time to improve and grow. Hell I’ve had people who started at 30 tell me the same thing. You got this bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 16:31:09 No.4335738 Report

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>>4316929
>>4328239
make sure every thing is in the right height and angle. I use a kneeling chair for 2 years now and never got the back hurt again (I have flatback syndrome,so is like a miracle to me). still, stress can afect diferently depending of the individual, but back pains seems very common and kneeling chair are not for everyone. for some people just doesn't work or is not confortable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 18:40:55 No.4335976 Report

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>Draw since I was 3
>stop during highschool for a year or so
>breeze through the courses and books, skim through texts and guides
>some help, some barely even register for me, bridgman was especially helpful
>realize too late I spent my entire childhood and adolescence on lineart and that color is a completely new frontier
>fail horribly the first time I try making a landscape drawing or character in the tradition drawing method, can't detect the right color for shadows and lights
>my autism keeps me from using digital wizardry like multiply and screen layers
>my ostentatious self-worth keeps me from starting from scratch or shading simple designs like rocks and small buildings
>It's been over 4 months and I still have not made any subtstancial progress besides detecting colors right and the correct amount of highlights and lost edges to use
I've never actually hit a wall drawing before, always thought i was talented or some shit until this happened

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 20:50:12 No.4336299 Report

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>Practice alot
>Seeing people draw what they love despite not being technically skilled at all in drawing
>Mfw the problem might just be that I'm not creative at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 20:50:15 No.4336300 Report

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>feeling a bit sick
>draw in bed instead of getting to my desk
>laptop overheats and dies
>motivation gone
>feeling more sick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jan 2020 21:28:15 No.4336413 Report

Quoted By: >>4337664

conditions for (my) successful practice

1. I can't work for longer than 15 minutes without a break
2. Some light music must be playing in the background
3. Need to be contemplating some non art related topic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 02:28:40 No.4336968 Report

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>>4335354
>>4335401
I never kept track, but it was def. an hour plus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 12:48:31 No.4337650 Report

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How do you keep yourself from going on Twitter.
I’m gonna be honest with myself and with my skill and posting frequency I’m probably gonna be stuck at little over 250 followers for a while. How do I keep myself from checking social media so I can just practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 13:08:36 No.4337664 Report

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>>4336413
>Need to be contemplating some non art related topic
care to elaborate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 13:16:10 No.4337670 Report

Quoted By: >>4337684 >>4337708 >>4337728

I'm realising now that my art hasn't improved since I started 3 or so years ago. Despite drawing for at least an hour every day for one of those years, I still draw like a child.
I've made clear progress with the language and instrument I've been learning, and I've only been doing that for a few weeks and months respectively. Maybe it's just a lost cause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 13:25:37 No.4337682 Report

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>>4323583
ok boomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 13:26:40 No.4337684 Report

Quoted By: >>4337694

>>4337670
>Despite drawing for at least an hour every day
There's your answer. You should draw for a hour and a half.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 13:41:05 No.4337694 Report

Quoted By: >>4337731 >>4337732 >>4337743 >>4337753

>>4337684
I'm too dense to know if you're being facetious or not, but surely after 400 or so hours of drawing anyone else would have improved a little bit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 13:53:03 No.4337707 Report

Quoted By:

>>4335049
This is really charming
Would make a good sticker or something I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 13:56:09 No.4337708 Report

Quoted By:

>>4337670
Even somebody who doesn't try at all would improve in this time. Maybe you're too hard on yourself. Post some older and newer pieces.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 14:12:38 No.4337728 Report

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>>4337670
post your work and we can recommend practice/books

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 14:16:07 No.4337731 Report

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>>4337694
400 hours from absolute zero is nothing, especially if you don't have any natural talent pulling you along. I didn't feel like I could actually start learning until somewhere north of 1,000 hours, before that it was mainly just aimless flailing and getting comfortable with the pencil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 14:19:18 No.4337732 Report

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>>4337694
Also, 400 hours in 3 years? Are you kidding me? I know we can't all put in 8 hours a day because of work/school, but even if you're busy with other things you should aim for at least 2 hours a day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 14:27:17 No.4337743 Report

Quoted By:

>>4337694
>400
That's nothing in the art world my youngling

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 14:35:55 No.4337753 Report

Quoted By:

>>4337694
>Too dense to detect sarcasm
>Too dense to be good at drawing.
Pick two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 14:40:50 No.4337758 Report

Quoted By: >>4337961

>>4333307
buy a 22-24 inch cheap monitor tabled

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 16:39:32 No.4337961 Report

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>>4337758
It's my objective right now, but it's absurdly expensive in my country, even the XP Pen i want is like 3-5k bucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 17:08:15 No.4338018 Report

Quoted By: >>4338025 >>4338028 >>4338565

Should I even be drawing when I have no self-esteem and think about killing myself daily? It's not helping with the first part, and that's contributing to the second.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 17:10:44 No.4338025 Report

Quoted By: >>4338031

>>4338018
Do you have anything better to do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 17:11:31 No.4338028 Report

Quoted By: >>4338031

>>4338018
Keep drawing but treat your depression

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 17:14:33 No.4338031 Report

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>>4338025
Play the piano I guess? Unlike drawing I've felt a sense of progress doing that.

>>4338028
If I could make the feelings of inadequacy go away I would have done that years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 23:12:38 No.4338548 Report

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>>4316665
I have the worst client with the worst deadline right now, I can't imagine what's going on inside his head, I don't know what the fuck is going on in general, why I wasted my years studying fundamentals and principles if every single letter from him is "hey make this thing fucking worse, fuck shit up, ooooooo yeah that perfect", I can't fucking do this, if this shit it going to have my name attached to it it's fucking over, I'm losing my mind, I work for 14 hours every day, I'm not a person, I poop on canvas, I'm switching

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jan 2020 23:20:30 No.4338565 Report

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>>4338018
yea draw . focus your energy toward something. set goals. make a routine. stick to something, improve at something. might want to see a therapist tho and dont smoke weed.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jan 2020 04:03:46 No.4338976 Report

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>ok this time I will draw with thin lines
>sketch, thin enough
>linework, thin enough
>colors, render, etc
>finished picture has thickass lines
What does this keeps happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jan 2020 06:14:54 No.4339132 Report

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I'm worthless

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 31 Jan 2020 06:15:19 No.4339133 Report

Quoted By: >>4341209

>be korean
> listening dark shitty music and jackoff every night 01:00 AM
>wake up it's 7:00 AM unplesant and dry as fuck
> go to workplace (forcefully hired by parents)
>can't focus for shit just doodling some crap
>go back to home, tired as fuck. listening dark shitty music again and draws anyway
>making short comic recently and fucking around clip studio
>looks like crap but have to draw anyway because i have a regret about art
>already realize i will ngmi and never become skilled artist (artist who i respect) just decide leave message on comic before i die

Who fucking cares i'm garbage i don't need fucking hugbox just waiting day to die

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jan 2020 09:16:18 No.4339337 Report

Quoted By: >>4339344

Am I the only one who enters a fucking trance when I start working on a drawing? I can't focus on anything else. Sleep is a non object. I just want to put hours into my project. Not sure whether this is artist or autist shit, only happens when I feel really confident in a piece.
Tfw it turns out like shit anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jan 2020 09:28:22 No.4339344 Report

Quoted By: >>4339955

>>4339337
happens to me all the time

honestly it feels amazing to be so invested in something thats not a huge waste of time like video games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jan 2020 12:08:23 No.4339513 Report

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How the fuck am i suppose am i suppose to make a face consistent in the facing forward view any little change in the jawline make it looks like a completely different head

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jan 2020 16:01:56 No.4339815 Report

Quoted By:

>>4330111
a lot of the pages of less popular artists are outdated as fuck for this reason
no one wants to sift through this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 Jan 2020 17:52:49 No.4339955 Report

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>>4339344
It feels amazing, but it also keeps me from investing in things that are more productive than art. It takes over everything.
Did art ruin my life, or is it the only thing worth living for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2020 11:03:05 No.4341209 Report

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>>4339133
put those negative emotions into your art

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Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2020 13:10:57 No.4341371 Report

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I just want friends I started posting my drawings to twitter hoping to make a group of art friends to draw together and hang out with. id say my drawings are decent, i have many mutals with japanese artists that i love and almost 500 followers but still no art friends. I don't really know how to approach ppl on twitter (do i DM them or ask for discord or just comment on their work>??) when i do dm ppl the conversation just kinda stops. Also the language barrier is hard to deal with id feel disrespectful trying to talk with someone in broken google translate Japanese soo idk i don't even deserve all the followers i have. i dont put effort in my drawings, i just scribble on the canvas (don't even do a final lineart layer) most of its from a drawing blowing up because of a retweet. i have irl friends i play games with and stuff but they arnt really interested in drawing and art like i am. i thnk im an ok person to talk too id rather just have 150 close followers and more close mutals i can talk too play games and draw with 500 followers isnt even alot but im afraid if i get more ppl would be afraid to approach me this is such a stupid problem maybe ill just make my twitter private and try to make freinds with the ppl who do follow me and i hate big art discords because they scare me. friends games music and drawing distract me from the fact that this world is hopeless and when my other friends are offline i feel like shit. I dont want to die so theres no escape maybe i have a mental illness but im black so my family wont believe me (pic related my work)

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Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2020 14:43:44 No.4341431 Report

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All my frustrations and anger come from not being able to get laid. I have little social skills but it's not that I don't talk to women, i'm liked by people, just not liked enough by girls to fuck me. It's been months since the last time I had sex, and is all I think about, the times I get pussy it doesn't seem that important, when I'm missing it I feel that I'm missing some important organ or something. Focusing on drawing, cine and teaching, all that shit that I like numbs the pain, but I feel so fucking sad all the time and is overwhelming to the point that I think of killing my self, because I'm not getting laid, I know how pathetic it is and knowing it makes it worst. I hate myself, my personality, and the fact that I chose to get better at drawing than something more sociable, like playing a guitar or something. Girls don't pay attention to the guy that can draw like bridgman, they give the attention to the guy that can play some shitty chords on guitar. And this shit has nothing to do with my looks, it's a matter of my shit fucking personality. Why am I like this? How do I change this? I feel like Pam Poovey in the early seasons of archer, only darker and with no Lana to have pity sex with me.

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