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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 20:19:59 2018 No.99935311 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>99935570 >>99935681 >>99938023

Why did they have to completely shit on all of the character development and concepts from UAF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:32:00 No.99935484 Report

Quoted By: >>99938134

Because people kept bitching about serious Ben being “Not muh OS”.

It’s part of the reason why he was a smug little shit at the beginning of Ultimate Alien too. People bitched and moaned about him not being fun any more, so they tried to bring back his 10 year old personality

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:36:49 No.99935570 Report

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>>99935311
Because Derrick J Wyatt is a manbaby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:42:05 No.99935659 Report

Quoted By: >>99935825 >>99935986 >>99936022 >>99936068 >>99936327 >>99938080 >>99938216

A lot of people say that it was the reboot that killed Ben 10 when this shit:

-regressed his personality to even less mature and more incompetent than his 10 year old self

-replaced with crappy art designs and wacky new aliens and crappy names for them

-made Gwen an ugly af stick in the mud

-made Kevin look dirty and stoner-looking

-got rid of Julie and replaced her with shitty love interest Kai

-hardly used Gwen and Kevin, replacing them with a blue alien guy (Rook) nobody likes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:43:08 No.99935681 Report

Quoted By: >>99935945

>>99935311
To be fair, Ultimate Alien had the best story, but Omniverse was my favourite Ben.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:51:37 No.99935825 Report

Quoted By: >>99935877

>>99935659
I liked Rook

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:54:44 No.99935877 Report

Quoted By: >>99935994 >>99936027

>>99935825
Yeah, I’m not sure where he’s going with that. Rook was pretty universally liked. I can count on one hand he number of people who didn’t, and I’m pretty sure half of them were the same guy.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:57:57 No.99935945 Report

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>>99935681
Honestly Omniverse seemed to be a good blend of Ben characteristics.

Him not being a cardboard boy with no depth was quite a step up from AF/UA

Touch too goofy maybe. But a good directional step.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 20:59:57 No.99935986 Report

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>>99935659
>a blue alien guy (Rook) nobody likes
Rook was the only good part of the entire series, because he's the only character that isn't a wanker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:00:35 No.99935994 Report

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>>99935877
Rook was a cool Straight Man Murtagh type.

Now if they had made Ben a bit more Riggs. Now that would have been a party. Been more on the edge and self destructive. Having fought multiple galactic threats making him a bit jaded with heroism.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:02:05 No.99936022 Report

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>>99935659
>shitty love interest Kai
Rude!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:02:26 No.99936027 Report

Quoted By: >>99936079

>>99935877
Rook is actually the only thing about the show I dislike. He's just a walking overused trope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:05:22 No.99936068 Report

Quoted By: >>99938229

>>99935659
Are you really that made that the show isn't "muh af" it feels like a return to form with the OS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:05:58 No.99936079 Report

Quoted By: >>99936109

>>99936027
What's not to love about the overly-anal by-the-book straight man?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:07:43 No.99936109 Report

Quoted By: >>99936156

>>99936079
He's just mad about the alien who doesn't understand human culture and doesn't use contractions thing

I take it he doesn't know a lot of foreigners

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:10:26 No.99936156 Report

Quoted By: >>99937468

>>99936109
But what’s funny is that he /did/ have a good deal of understanding about earth culture, and frequently schooled Ben for not applying the same standards to aliens that he would expect for earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:20:39 No.99936327 Report

Quoted By: >>99936623 >>99938267

>>99935659
>regressed his personality to even less mature and more incompetent than his 10 year old self

False

>replaced with crappy art designs and wacky new aliens and crappy names for them

Derrick J Wyatt is one of the best of the industry, I admit that there were some poor choices, but the art direction overral is leagues above AS or UA.

At least its no unashamed copy/paste.

>made Gwen an ugly af stick in the mud
>waifufag
And to be honest, there were multiple other nice looking girls in the show

>made Kevin look dirty and stoner-looking
Perfect

>got rid of Julie
Julie is shit

>ardly used Gwen and Kevin, replacing them with a blue alien guy (Rook) nobody likes

Rook was great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:38:10 No.99936623 Report

Quoted By: >>99936700

>>99936327
>False
Nigger that is the most true part of his post
>Defends shitty looking artstyle of Omniverse
>Likes Kevin’s hobo look
Opinion regarding Aesthetics discarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 21:42:24 No.99936700 Report

Quoted By: >>99940055

>>99936623
>Nigger that is the most true part of his post

Omniverse Ben had more personality and was allowed to fuck up more than UA, but wanst more immature than OS Ben.

>Defends shitty looking artstyle of Omniverse
Its a hit or miss. Its way superior than UA and AF tho, as I said, they mostly used copy/paste, fights at night, and holy shit the copy/paste was bad for humans and aliens. The omnitrix aliens were also pretty boring desgin-wise, looking mostly like robots.

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 22:00:44 No.99937065 Report

Quoted By: >>99938252

Honestly I think most people see the Omniverse stills, and judge it based on that. I won’t even try to defend the soulless eyes when you’re looking at a still image.

But where the art shines is in design and animation. It flows easily, and the world feels like a place people actually live in. Compare that to the copy-pasted planet during the chromastone episode, and the mostly empty streets in the rest of the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 22:22:09 No.99937468 Report

Quoted By: >>99937872

>>99936156
Understanding a culture from a book and actually living in it are two different things, as there's small local traditions and values that vary from town to town within the same county, let alone from different parts of the state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 22:46:00 No.99937872 Report

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>>99937468
No, I mean he was surprisingly worldly, despite being from a planet of space Amish.

He rightly pointed out to Ben that when they landed on Anur Transyl, it was he and Ben who were considered the alien monsters. (Ben had been geeking out about being on a monster planet, where everybody looked like they belonged in an earth horror movie)

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Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 22:53:07 No.99938023 Report

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>>99935311
Fuck all that, why did they shit on Gwen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 22:56:43 No.99938080 Report

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>>99935659
The only thing that killed the series was CN.
Remember when they burned through forty episodes at five in the morning just to get rid of it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 23:00:07 No.99938134 Report

Quoted By: >>99938180

>>99935484
Which in itself was stupid as hell considering that his 10 year old self acted like he did because he's a kid while his teenage self is like that because he matured in the 5 years between series like people tend to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 23:02:44 No.99938180 Report

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>>99938134
No, its because he had a cardboard personality on AF and was boring as fuck. There are countless better 15 years old on /co/ material, like the superior slightly older Ben from Omniverse, that acted like an actual teenager instead of a uninteresting straightman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 23:04:27 No.99938216 Report

Quoted By: >>99940185

>>99935659
Kai was endgame from the start tho and rook was awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 23:05:29 No.99938229 Report

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>>99936068
I really, reaaallly don't understand the people that like AF and UA it was SO bad like I hated kid ben but this shit was even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 23:06:39 No.99938252 Report

Quoted By: >>99938296 >>99938359

>>99937065
Now what about the needless redesigning of the aliens that Ben already had rather than just updating them into the new art style?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 23:07:09 No.99938267 Report

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>>99936327
I was there for most of the omniverse threads and they were great until the waifufags ruined them, think the pokemon anime threads on /vp/ but somehow worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 23:08:30 No.99938296 Report

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>>99938252
I'd say the only needless redesign was Big Chill, everything else was an improvement

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Apr 2018 23:12:10 No.99938359 Report

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>>99938252
I can count on one hand the number of bad “redesigns” they had. Most of them were a fairly decent cross into the new style, and some of them (like Jury Riggs) were actually marked improvements

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Anonymous Wed 18 Apr 2018 00:31:25 No.99940055 Report

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>>99936700
>Omniverse Ben had more personality
He was just a flanderized version of his former self, and a gigantically smug puece of shit
> but wasn't more immature than OS Ben.
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Boco !sCZ24qY6KY Wed 18 Apr 2018 00:32:34 No.99940089 Report

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Because Derrick J. Wyatt is a self-obsessed twat who only does what he wants.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Apr 2018 00:36:32 No.99940185 Report

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>>99938216
>Kai was endgame from the start
In a timeline that was rendered non-canon from it’s introduction and should have remained so.
>and rook was awesome
Rook was a dweeb.

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