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Anonymous Tue 03 Apr 23:51:33 2018 No.99663299 View Reply Original Report

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>Captain America learning how to fight in 6 months is good writing
>Batman learning how to fight in 15 years is Batwank
How much time should Batman have to train until he reached the "good writing" point?

Why can Captain America reach said point in 6 months?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 00:38:51 No.99664148 Report

Quoted By: >>99664264 >>99668979

There's only so much you need to learn about fighting when you can punch through sandbags. Drugs give Cap the edge and disqualify him at the same time.
That said, 15 years is way too much time for Batman to be training before actually doing shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 00:44:48 No.99664228 Report

Quoted By: >>99664264 >>99664910

>>99663299
>>Captain America learning how to fight in 6 months is good writing
So advanced army training + borderline superhuman powers
>>Batman learning every single martial in 15 years is Batwank
ftfy

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 00:46:48 No.99664264 Report

Quoted By: >>99664323 >>99666292 >>99668684 >>99670784

>>99664148
>>99664228
Steve without the serum is still the best fighter in the world and can take 4 Super-Soldiers at the same time.

Those 6 months really paid off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 00:48:01 No.99664287 Report

Quoted By: >>99665369 >>99670868 >>99673135

>>99663299
Captain America's only job is to learn to fight and continue to fight. Not to mention a a bunch of powers that Cap has in terms of being at peak strength or more that mean he doesn't have to work at shit like core strength or other muscle groups that need to be actively trained in normal people fighting different styles.

Plus he heals faster.

Batman has somehow mastered tons of fighting styles, is the world's greatest detective, runs (or at least publicly operates) a multi-billion dollar business, and somehow has time to sleep at least a little bit despite ALSO taking care of JLA business.

Cap's dedication to just fighting and protecting is much more believable.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 00:50:09 No.99664323 Report

Quoted By: >>99664379

>>99664264
False equivalence here. That's not Cap 6 months into his time as Captain America. It's years and years and years of training, doing more or less nothing else.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 00:52:59 No.99664379 Report

Quoted By: >>99664641 >>99672812 >>99673087

>>99664323
But if Batman (who has even more experience and training than Cap and is much stronger than Serumless Steve) was the one taking down multiple Super-Soldier at the same time, people would call him a Mary Sue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 00:56:47 No.99664456 Report

Quoted By: >>99665114 >>99666487

>>99663299
Cap did basic military training, and has never been shown yo do anything crazy beyond punching and blocking.

Bats did crazy mcguffin magic training for a meaningless stretch of time because it's unclear what the training was and unclear what the limits of his abilities are, which is all core to the concept of "whatever it needs to be for the scene".

Gee I wonder why one is considered better than the other?

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:05:01 No.99664641 Report

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>>99664379
Batman wouldn't blow the knees out of the guy in front of him with a shotgun. And Bats has fought plenty of guys tanked on Venom - I don't think anyone would call it "batwank" for Bats to take out four guys in peak physical shape, since he does it all the time.

You want batwank? This shit is batwank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:07:20 No.99664691 Report

Quoted By: >>99664747 >>99665120

>>99664641
Almost as bad a Selena one-shotting 3 Flashes in succession.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:07:55 No.99664706 Report

Quoted By: >>99664862 >>99664958 >>99672007

>>99664641
>A fight in which Batman lands only two punches but is otherwise stomped
>Bawank

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:09:33 No.99664747 Report

Quoted By: >>99664862 >>99664958 >>99672007

>>99664641
>>99664691
that page is between multiple pages of Batman getting his shit utterly wrecked

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:15:24 No.99664862 Report

Quoted By: >>99665120 >>99665533 >>99667258 >>99667282

>>99664747
>>99664706
It doesn't matter, it should be completely impossible. Even most supers shouldn't be able to do this. Quicksilver would be a few hundred times too slow to pull this off. It's bullshit.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:17:53 No.99664910 Report

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>>99664228
Does Batman know Pro Wrestling?

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:20:30 No.99664958 Report

Quoted By: >>99665635

>>99664706
>>99664747
Even getting the one hit in is batwank.

But fine, have another. And the whole Darkseid thing.

There's no reason not to have comic characters doing cool things, especially when they're as popular as Batman, and have been shown to do extraordinary things, but Batman's consistently outpunching his power level, and it's less and less in clever ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:21:48 No.99664987 Report

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>>99664910
Of course he does, look at his costume

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:27:10 No.99665114 Report

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>>99664456
>has never been shown yo do anything crazy beyond punching and blocking.
Bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:27:24 No.99665120 Report

Quoted By: >>99665188 >>99667326

>>99664862
Speedsters are canonically jobbers and don't do half the shit they ought to. Reverse Flash in particular gets sucker punched like that all the time.

>>99664691
Both Catwoman and Batman knew the Flashes were coming. And Ivy realistically did not know how to control the Flashes, or dodge with them, or know how to phase through Catwoman's attacks. It's not batwanking when it fits in context.

And, you know, honestly? Batwank is pretty rare in comics nowadays. Sure, Batman does a lot of shit that regular humans can't do, but you could say the same of any 'peak human' hero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:30:23 No.99665188 Report

Quoted By: >>99665208 >>99665465

>>99665120
>Batwank is pretty rare in comics nowadays
Didnt he stop a plan crashing into Gotham with a rope and a grappling hook recently? Come on anon, it's batwank.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:31:32 No.99665208 Report

Quoted By: >>99665483

>>99665188
>Didnt he stop a plan crashing into Gotham with a rope and a grappling hook recently? Come on anon, it's batwank.
Nope. Gotham and Gotham Girl stopped it.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:32:07 No.99665218 Report

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>>99663299

super soldier serum son

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:35:47 No.99665298 Report

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>>99663299

>false flag as a dcfag

You are a sad pathetic capfag, a casual that has been BTFO several times.

Also
>20 posts
>11 posters

OP is samefagging as crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:39:15 No.99665369 Report

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>>99664287
Batman doesn't sleep, he meditates for something like 2 hours per night or something ridiculous like that.

I don't know if all 120 of those minutes are consecutive. It's possible that he takes micronaps every time he blinks and it wouldn't be in the top thousand of stupid things i've read in comics

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:43:08 No.99665447 Report

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>>99663299
Because at the same time Batman was racking up PhD's, masters degrees, and about fifty other skills.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:43:52 No.99665465 Report

Quoted By: >>99665499

>>99665188
>Didn't he stop a plane
No, Gotham and Gotham Girl did.

Look, I know writers like to give Batman a ton of plot armor and give him the ability to fight well above his weight class in increasingly dumber ways. I know writers are susceptible to the Bat prepgod meme. I know every writer wants to try and be the next Miller. Batwank does exist.

But Batman's not doing crazy shit that other peak human beings aren't as well. What about Hawkeye lifting a car off himself? Or Karate Kid destroying about a few dozen thousand tons of ice? I mean you gotta draw the line somewhere about where the special treatment for Bats really begins, because it's probably further than you think.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:44:42 No.99665483 Report

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>>99665208
Anon pls, it was going to work, he and Alfred both understood that it was going to work before those two intervened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:45:15 No.99665496 Report

Quoted By: >>99666106

>>99663299

There are only so many ways to throw a jab and a front kick, and most times that's all you need. The serum also enhances Cap's brain, allowing him to process and retain information at a superhuman rate, so 6 months for Cap to do what Bats took in 15 years can be rationalized that way.

More time to do something doesn't necessarily mean that all of that time was spent doing the right thing, a guy taking a week to learn how to box the right way would tend to do better than the guy learning months to do it the wrong way.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:45:18 No.99665499 Report

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>>99665465
it doesnt matter it's about complaining about batman not about facts

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:47:17 No.99665533 Report

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>>99664862
Anon, Zoom was monologging and opened himself up. That's the only opening Bruce gets that entire fight catching him off guard. Zoom reckts his shit in for the rest of the issue.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 01:51:48 No.99665635 Report

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>>99664958
>that panel

Spectre let Batman get a hit in so he'd stop bellyaching, stop bringing it up. Also, any jackass can shoot Darkseid with a gun, just because Batman did it doesn't make it wank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:07:31 No.99665980 Report

Quoted By: >>99666246

>>99663299
Captain America has an advanced brain that can learn faster and hold onto information better than a normal human. He also has superhuman perception and reaction times. As well as superhuman ability to calculate things like trajectory and movement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:14:27 No.99666106 Report

Quoted By: >>99666246

>>99665496
>The serum also enhances Cap's brain, allowing him to process and retain information at a superhuman rate, so 6 months for Cap to do what Bats took in 15 years can be rationalized that way.
Mary Serum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:22:01 No.99666246 Report

Quoted By: >>99666292 >>99666665 >>99666709

>>99665980
No
>>99666106
Except cap is far from the top martial artists and fighters in his universe, stop replying to OP's retardation

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:24:40 No.99666292 Report

Quoted By: >>99666442 >>99670769

>>99666246
>Except cap is far from the top martial artists and fighters in his universe
He is, according to himself >>99664264

There's also Cap schooling Shang Chi

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:32:17 No.99666423 Report

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>>99663299
You forget that immediately after training, Cap actually went into battle from 1941 to 1944 or 45. That's actual battlefield experience against some of the toughest conditions at the time, and some unusual ones too, like whatever nutty plan some Nazi villain or super-scientist would throw at him.
Meanwhile, Batman did not spend 15 years just training how to fight. First he had to finish his regular studies as a kid. After that (or maybe even during that time period) he had to divide his time learning everything from chemistry to criminology to escape artistry and other things, which would no doubt have eaten up any time he could have spent learning how to fight.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:33:28 No.99666442 Report

Quoted By: >>99667397

>>99666292
Op we had talked about this before, COMBAT FIGHTER =/= fighter.

Rambo can't beat Bruce Lee. But you are autistic and don't care

>There's also Cap schooling Shang Chi
You have zero reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:34:59 No.99666464 Report

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>>99664641
Where did Batman learn to talk that fast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:36:24 No.99666487 Report

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>>99664456
Do you even know what a McGuffin is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:47:56 No.99666665 Report

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>>99666246
>Does not know what supersoldier means at all

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:50:42 No.99666709 Report

Quoted By: >>99666728 >>99666739 >>99666768 >>99667249 >>99671976

>>99666246
Yea every time Cap tosses his shield and it bounces 4 or 5 times and hits a guy in the back of the neck, Cap actually did the math in his head and figured out exactly how to throw it at the right angle with the right amount of force taking in shit like wind direction and angle of the walls to make it bounce right into a bad guy's neck.

You just do not know the first fucking thing about Cap, time to go back to /tv/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:52:04 No.99666728 Report

Quoted By: >>99672132

>>99666709
And Bruce is perfectly capable of dodging machinegun fire, omega means, and speedster punches. All hit a hell of a lot harder than a frisbee.

You don't know shit about Bats marvelcuck

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:53:06 No.99666739 Report

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>>99666709
>marvelcuckery

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 02:54:55 No.99666768 Report

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>>99666709
How in the fucking fuck is this not bullshit wank? If this is anything more than some marvelfag headcannon fantasy the this right here is the top bullshit gary stu wanking and everyone needs to shut the fuck up about Batman ever again. Because goddamn..

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:23:18 No.99667211 Report

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>>99663299
>>Captain America learning how to fight in 6 months is good writing
Batman wasn't injected with ultra roids though was he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:24:48 No.99667232 Report

Quoted By: >>99672007

>>99664641
>Two lucky punches is Batwank

Zoom absolutely kicked the shit out of Batman in that issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:25:52 No.99667249 Report

Quoted By: >>99667414 >>99667441

>>99666709
>Yea every time Cap tosses his shield and it bounces 4 or 5 times and hits a guy in the back of the neck, Cap actually did the math in his head and figured out exactly how to throw it at the right angle with the right amount of force taking in shit like wind direction and angle of the walls to make it bounce right into a bad guy's neck.

Bruce can do that shit too, you don't know shit about captain america or comics in general, you are a mcu retard that just saw too many "feat" threads in shitty forums.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:26:13 No.99667258 Report

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>>99664862
>A superhero did something impossible

OH FUCK! Somebody alert the elders of Capeshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:27:32 No.99667282 Report

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>>99664862
>It doesn't matter, it should be completely impossible. Even most supers shouldn't be able to do this. Quicksilver would be a few hundred times too slow to pull this off. It's bullshit.
You're talking about speedsters who have bullshit powers to begin with. They could've easily given Bats some kind of gadget to even the odds, which wouldn't be surprising since he works with speedsters all the time. Instead they showed Batman getting a few hits before getting his ass handed to him. And faggots like you still aren't satisfied and call it batwank because suddenly we have to take speedster powers super seriously now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:30:15 No.99667326 Report

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>>99665120
The Flashes were moving at what should be impossible speeds for Catwoman to react. They don't produce lightning unless they're using Super speed. It was shit. Stop being a King apologist because the cunt broke his own rules in that issue.

If Ivy can't control the heroes powers Superman should have completely obliterated Batman's skull when he punched him in the face. Superman doesn't concentrate when he needs to be powerful, he concentrates when he needs to be weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:34:28 No.99667397 Report

Quoted By: >>99667426 >>99672157

>>99666442
>Rambo can't beat Bruce Lee. But you are autistic and don't care

Bruce Lee was one of, if not the greatest, fighters of all time, not just because he knew how to fight, but because he was pragmatic as fuck when it came to martial arts. Let's be serious, most top-class heavyweight class fighters worth their salt would beat him much more often than not, that's just simple physics and biology at play, and even he would admit if he was outclassed.

>>99666442

What did he say that was disputed in that post? Captain America is definitely one of MU's top fighters, it's been stated numerous times for decades. Just because he isn't busting out mystic arts of the Orient doesn't mean he's not a top fighter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:34:31 No.99667399 Report

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>spider-man got 15 years of spider-fu and is almost useless when his senses goes off
Spider could beat both cap and bat arses with less training if he manage to actually train someday.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:35:12 No.99667414 Report

Quoted By: >>99667478

>>99667249
shoe me a time Bruce does it, and not the time he has Superman's powers, if you can't then you are fanfictioning

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:35:42 No.99667426 Report

Quoted By: >>99667601

>>99667397
>Bruce Lee was one of, if not the greatest, fighters of all time

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:36:28 No.99667441 Report

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>>99667249
Bruce only had that level of perception when he absorbed all of Clarkes powers and fought the JLA. He had kryptonian perceptive ability at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:38:57 No.99667478 Report

Quoted By: >>99667541 >>99667601 >>99667946

>>99667414
>shoe me a time Bruce does it

I can't show you batman using the shield. But that "feat" is low tier for Green arrow, hawkeye, batman, boomerang, deadshot, bullseye, etc

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:42:57 No.99667541 Report

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>>99667478
>B-but DC is just better because I like it more!!!

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 03:45:42 No.99667601 Report

Quoted By: >>99668582

>>99667478
>But that "feat" is low tier for Green arrow, hawkeye, batman, boomerang, deadshot, bullseye, etc

All using a shield, right?

>>99667426

You insufferable pedantic faggot, yes. Did I stutter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:08:51 No.99667946 Report

Quoted By: >>99668079 >>99668552

>>99667478
>But that "feat" is low tier for Green arrow, hawkeye, batman, boomerang, deadshot, bullseye, etc
Batman doesn't belong in that group. The best you can get from him is if his batarangs all hit the mark

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:15:33 No.99668079 Report

Quoted By: >>99668629 >>99668663 >>99668721 >>99672337

>>99667946
Batman has proven to be superior to Ollie in marksmanship. And he is perfectly capable of calculating the trajectory of a weapon to bounce off any number of surfaces and hit a mark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:21:28 No.99668173 Report

Quoted By: >>99668512 >>99668721 >>99671967

>>99663299
Marvelfags angry over the fact that Batman is a superior version of Cap. There is literally nothing Cap can do that Bruce cannot do better and only through training and skill, not science lab powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:26:10 No.99668243 Report

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>>99663299
These two characters are really not comparable. Mosr powerlevelfags like to compare then since they are both the nonpowered guys of their teams that like to fight a lot.

But the main difference is Cap will march straight into a fight he has no business joining against guys that should push his shit in with little effort. Bruce will at least stay back and study his opponent and figure out an exploitable weakness. Which is why he is more successful against opponents than Cap who takes the angry wrestler approach to superpowered fights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:39:08 No.99668442 Report

Quoted By: >>99668516

>>99663299
Captain America's brain is canonically much faster than that of most humans due to the serum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:43:25 No.99668512 Report

Quoted By: >>99668538

>>99668173
Can Bruce beat Iron Man in a fist fight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:43:45 No.99668516 Report

Quoted By: >>99668721 >>99672198

>>99668442
Bruce's brain is canonically much faster than that of most humans through training and willpower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:44:45 No.99668538 Report

Quoted By: >>99668933

>>99668512
Bruce has cobbled together suits that can handle Superman and match him in a fight. Tony has yet to make a single -Buster armor that can stand up to Hulk or Thor for more than a few minutes before being junked. So yes, Bruce is the superior armorsmith.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:45:41 No.99668552 Report

Quoted By: >>99668629

>>99667946
He does. But you wouldnt know.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:47:11 No.99668571 Report

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>>99663299
Batman is shit and you're a baiter. Kys.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:47:55 No.99668582 Report

Quoted By: >>99668827 >>99668830

>>99667601
>Did I stutter?

No you're just talking absolute shit with unwarranted authority

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:51:07 No.99668629 Report

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>>99668079
>>99668552
No, Batman is out of their league. You fags can't even post a page showing Batman coming close to what those guys accomplish on a daily basis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:53:04 No.99668663 Report

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>>99668079
>Batman has proven to be superior to Ollie in marksmanship.
Nice bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:54:13 No.99668684 Report

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>>99664264
Even if all that was true, knowing your body is a big part of trained fighting. His fighting skill that incorporated his serum enhanced body would not necessarily transfer to his twig like original body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 04:56:28 No.99668721 Report

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>>99668079
>>99668173
>>99668516
Is this one elaborate shitposter pretending to be a Batman fan just to get others to hate the character? Because even the most devoted Batman fan stops at "prep time" rather than claiming he's better at everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 05:02:33 No.99668827 Report

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>>99668582
And poor grammar too

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 05:02:40 No.99668830 Report

Quoted By: >>99670638 >>99671993 >>99672213

>>99668582
>No you're just talking absolute shit with unwarranted authority

Says you, autismo.

>Does Captain America practice and utilize a variety of martial arts?
Yes.
>Does he engage in fights?
Yes.
>So he's a martial artist/fighter?
NO!!! HE'S A COMBAT FIGHTER!!@!#!%%!%!!ADFAWSD

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 05:09:26 No.99668933 Report

Quoted By: >>99670912

>>99668538
I mean defeat Iron Man in a fist fight, not make a better suit.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 05:12:29 No.99668979 Report

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>>99664148
Cap's strength varies but its supposed to be "peak human" which is coincidentallay the point batman is supposed to have trained to as well

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 07:44:08 No.99670638 Report

Quoted By: >>99671943

>>99668830
He was talking about Bruce Lee. Follow your own conversation

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 07:55:05 No.99670769 Report

Quoted By: >>99674328

>>99666292
That was pure bs Capwanking though. You honestly think old man Captain America would be capable of holding his own against Shang-Chi? The same Shang-Chi that held his own against Spider-man in a legit fight as oppose to a conflicted Spider-man throwing the fight because it was Captain America?

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 07:56:33 No.99670784 Report

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>>99664264
>Steve without the serum is still the best fighter in the world
No he isn't. The Immortal Weapons are easily better. Same with Shang-Chi and The Cat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 08:04:06 No.99670868 Report

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>>99664287
Bruce doesn't run his company directly. His schedule goes:
>Sleep 6-8 hrs
>Do billionaire stuff for 6-8 hour/organize JL stuff
>Do Batman stuff for the next 12-8 hours/mix it int with billionaire stuff
>Repeat

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 08:08:13 No.99670912 Report

Quoted By: >>99672297

>>99668933
Tony barely knows basic martial arts, he just uses his suits processors to calculate moves and shit, Batman would btfo tony, it’s not batwank if tony is physical a shit fighter who has barely any skills

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:35:03 No.99671943 Report

Quoted By: >>99671984 >>99671993 >>99672228

>>99670638
>He was talking about Bruce Lee.
>Op we had talked about this before, COMBAT FIGHTER =/= fighter.
>Rambo can't beat Bruce Lee. But you are autistic and don't care

I know that you tard bus, the point was that he brought up Rambo versus Bruce Lee for some reason and the point that the former could not beat the latter because one is a COMBAT! Fighter and the other is a martial artist, as if what you're called matters a fuck in the context of your capabilities. That's like saying a SEAL who'd be placed in a heavyweight class can't beat a featherweight MMA fighter because the former is a COMBAT! Fighter while the other is a martial artist, or fighter, or whatever the point that idiot was trying to make.

Apparently Cap isn't a fighter or a martial artist because reasons.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:40:44 No.99671967 Report

Quoted By: >>99672074

>>99668173
>There is literally nothing Cap can do that Bruce cannot do better.
Lead his team to a billion + dollar box office?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:42:52 No.99671976 Report

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>>99666709
>it's okay for Captain America to be retarded

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:42:57 No.99671977 Report

Quoted By: >>99672000

>>99663299
Nice strawman, batfag.

Batman learning how to fight isn't batwank. Batman mastering every martial art in addition to non-combat stuff like forensics and several other kinds of science is batwank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:44:34 No.99671984 Report

Quoted By: >>99672246

>>99671943
Cap isn't a martial artist, because martial arts in capeshit is some serious superpower bullshit on it's own.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:45:14 No.99671987 Report

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>>99663299
It isn't just six months any more though. After those six months he used what he learned for years and years afterwards against a wide variety of opponents which is applying his knowledge and furthering his training all at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:46:18 No.99671993 Report

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>>99671943
The point was that in that panel the one making the difference is steve, while using a machinegun. He is talking about his skills as a soldier and not as a martial artist.
>>99668830
Autist, the idea he learned everything in 6 months, when he was being trained by the army it's just plain retarded as the murrikan army in the MCU wasnt that advanced. He was trained as a soldier. If you are truly OP you should try to understand why people is telling you that you are wrong, cap isnt near Bruce level as a fighter, he isnt as good as Matt either (who isnt peak human).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:47:11 No.99672000 Report

Quoted By: >>99672008

>>99671977

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:48:31 No.99672007 Report

Quoted By: >>99672041

>>99664706
>>99664747
>>99667232
>Hurr durr, he only landed two punches! This isn't batwank!
>Getting the drop on someone capable of reacting at the speed of light isn't wank.

Batfucks are delusional, holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:49:02 No.99672008 Report

Quoted By: >>99672041

>>99672000
Batman can beat Karate Kid in martial art's that haven't been invented yet.
Thereby Batman wins everything ever, and my trips confirm it.
This is a stupid thread and all of you suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:52:34 No.99672038 Report

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>>99664910
He needs to work on his ring presence and his hype game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:53:01 No.99672041 Report

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>>99672007
batman not having any protection against speedsters in his base is retarded, johns hates batman and that shit was all done on guidelines by johns, it's not.
>>99672008
He can't, the only fight against karate kid he won was by cheating and that was back in Countdown so it doesnt really counts, and no, he can beat him, the page is about batman being so talented at martial arts that he starts to react and learn. Also...

>no. You.

I love that page so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 10:57:17 No.99672062 Report

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>>99664641
Honestly, that's not that bad. That's common sense. If he didn't slow down his feet he would fall through the earth. But stabbing, hitting and talking to someone like that in the span of 4 seconds is almost super human levels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:01:02 No.99672074 Report

Quoted By: >>99672370

>>99671967

The Dark Knight was one of the first super hero films to crack a billion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:10:46 No.99672132 Report

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>>99666728
...so you don't see the problem and the divide between the two? Are you stupid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:14:49 No.99672157 Report

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>>99667397
>bruce lee, greatest fighter

Son, there's a lot of debate on that. There's questions as to the sincerity of his claims or if he was a great hype man with lots of support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:21:01 No.99672198 Report

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>>99668516
That's dumb. You're dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:23:20 No.99672213 Report

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>>99668830
You really are stupid. He's talking about Bruce Lee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:25:49 No.99672228 Report

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>>99671943
Jesus fuck, you're an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:28:01 No.99672246 Report

Quoted By: >>99672286

>>99671984
He's not a mystic arts fighter. Regular martial arts still exist and he's pretty good with them since he's got near super human reaction time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:34:23 No.99672286 Report

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>>99672246
Yeah he is great, but the point is that being enchanced is why he is that good, take that away and he is just a good fighter, not a top tier one. He is wolverine tier, not Iron Fist tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:36:24 No.99672297 Report

Quoted By: >>99672340

>>99670912
And this is how we know you know jack shit about Marvel. Stark was trained by Black Widow, Black Panther, Captain America, and Shang fucking Chi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:41:11 No.99672337 Report

Quoted By: >>99672355

>>99668079

>Batman is a better marksman than a character whose entire, and arguably only deal is marksmanship.

How is this not Batwank?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:41:29 No.99672340 Report

Quoted By: >>99672408

>>99672297
>. Stark was trained by Black Widow, Black Panther, Captain America, and Shang fucking Chi.

Yeah, and that makes him competent. Not "stop a sword with the palm of your hand" or "skullcrush" tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:42:47 No.99672355 Report

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>>99672337
He isnt better he is on the same level, and you clearly don't know shit about ollie, bruce aim has been a thing since the 40's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:45:16 No.99672370 Report

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>>99672074
awwww.... you tried

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:49:32 No.99672408 Report

Quoted By: >>99672488

>>99672340
>Tony barely knows basic martial arts
>Yeah, and that makes him competent. Not "stop a sword with the palm of your hand" or "skullcrush" tier.
Which one is he, oh great and glorious scholar of fighting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 11:58:59 No.99672488 Report

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>>99672408
I'm not the one that says he "barely knows". You are clearly a casual that doesnt touch martial arts comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:13:05 No.99672608 Report

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Now apparently even Iron Man is a better fighter than Bruce, huh?

But Bruce is the wanked one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:38:45 No.99672812 Report

Quoted By: >>99672844 >>99673623

>>99664379
Dude Batman breaks concrete, escapes being buried alive, and can do super human shit because of "muh mystic Tibetian monk training".

He's wanky because they treat him as this infallible always right, always coming on top guy that can take the rest of the Justice League without a sweat.

Hell he fucking beats Karate Kid which was bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:40:55 No.99672840 Report

Quoted By: >>99672923

>>99663299
How many times has Cap beaten Thanos vs how many times Batman has beaten Darkseid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:41:21 No.99672844 Report

Quoted By: >>99672857

>>99672812
>Hell he fucking beats Karate Kid which was bullshit.
He managed to win that fight by keeping kk eyes on him and fooling him into thinking his trick was to use something from the belt and not electric negro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:43:24 No.99672857 Report

Quoted By: >>99672932

>>99672844
Gay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:48:43 No.99672923 Report

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>>99672840
Captain America is canonically faster than an Omnipotent Thanos.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:49:30 No.99672932 Report

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>>99672857
He was supposed to beat captain america in the original crossover by taking away his shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:54:19 No.99672978 Report

Quoted By: >>99673001

>>99672923
That would imply thanos was moving as fast as he can. He wasnt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 12:56:19 No.99673001 Report

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>>99672978
Nice headcanon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 13:02:24 No.99673061 Report

Quoted By: >>99673082 >>99673107

>>99663299
MCU cap got the shit kicked out of him nearly every day of his life, protected some of the time by Buck. He grew up scrawny, poor and Irish in Brooklyn in the 20s-30s: The Great Depression. He probably literally fought for food.
He's been fighting a lot longer than Batman, and he had a natural talent for it that was magnified by suddenly being physically magnificent.

You got it backwards- cap didn't learn to fight in 6 months. Cap fought for all *but* 6 months of his life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 13:04:21 No.99673082 Report

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>>99673061
>and he had a natural talent for it
Not a single version of Steve rogers had a natural talent for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 13:05:10 No.99673087 Report

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>>99664379
As soon as you start saying "you would do X" you've lost the argument and are projecting a strawman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 13:08:03 No.99673107 Report

Quoted By: >>99673656

>>99673061
>Cap learned how to fight faster because he got his shit pushed by poor NY kids before he got the serum
The STATE of Capfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 13:10:53 No.99673135 Report

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>>99664287
It's not that simple. Batwank exists. If Batman is capable of beating Deathstroke in a fight, he can take Captain America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 13:52:27 No.99673623 Report

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>>99672812
let's not forget he ducked the Omega Sanction

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 13:54:35 No.99673656 Report

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>>99673107
In all honesty, I think Cap's fighting abilities are/should be considered overrated, but batfaggotry is a toxin that has literally decimated the comics industry and is in the process of finishing it off once and for all.
Batman is cancer. Cap is just sloppy comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Apr 2018 14:42:27 No.99674328 Report

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>>99670769
>That was pure bs Capwanking though. You honestly think old man Captain America would be capable of holding his own against Shang-Chi? The same Shang-Chi that held his own against Spider-man in a legit fight as oppose to a conflicted Spider-man throwing the fight because it was Captain America?
It doesn't matter what I think. Without the serum and in an old body, Cap is canonically as good of a fighter as Shang Chi, without having trained nearly as much.

But we are to busy complaining about Batman to see anything wrong with Captain America.

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