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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 04:02:10 2018 No.97857172 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>97857934 >>97857956 >>97858596 >>97862382 >>97862665

Do you ever stop to think how crazy it was that the song "Hallelujah" was used completely unironically in the Shrek soundtrack?

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:04:48 No.97857229 Report

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THEN I SAW HER FACE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:08:46 No.97857309 Report

Quoted By: >>97857378 >>97857407

Yeah, I was really surprised when I realised Smash Mouth has made their own rendition of Hallelujah for the movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:12:24 No.97857378 Report

Quoted By: >>97857407

>>97857309
Yeah, but remember that cover of I Need A Hero by Smash Mouth in Shrek 2? I did not expect it to be as good as it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:13:33 No.97857395 Report

Quoted By: >>97857462 >>97859073 >>97862739 >>97865334

You have to admit, it was unironic kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4tYJdDj3_8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:14:33 No.97857407 Report

Quoted By: >>97858996

>>97857309
>>97857378
Why are you talking about inferior covers when Smash Mouth did a fantastic cover of All Star for the OST too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:18:29 No.97857462 Report

Quoted By: >>97857543 >>97857544

>>97857395
The song is just too good.
Besides Shrek was just a self contained family friendly movie so no one would think it was being too ridiculous. If that shit happened in Shrek 3 or something then yeah, it would feel out of place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:23:43 No.97857543 Report

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>>97857462
Shrek was pretty irreverent and vulgar (kind of groundbreaking for cgi kids film) but not being afraid to have genuine emotional scenes and having a “heart” alongside this is the root of the film’s success. Really good balancing act

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:23:48 No.97857544 Report

Quoted By: >>97858174 >>97859086

>>97857462
There was a cover of Led Zepplin's Immigrant song in Shrek the Third, actually. Smash Mouth killed it there, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:50:29 No.97857904 Report

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Because Shrek was not ironic about anything, it just made fun of Disney unapologetically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:52:18 No.97857934 Report

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>>97857172
Not really. The thing is, it should feel out of place but then it really fits in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 04:53:33 No.97857956 Report

Quoted By: >>97858219 >>97863330

>>97857172
I think it's crazier how good the Holding Out for a Hero remix is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:07:39 No.97858174 Report

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>>97857544
That was probably the only good thing about that shitfest

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:09:43 No.97858219 Report

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>>97857956
are you really doubting smash mouth. of course that cover was great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:16:36 No.97858332 Report

Quoted By: >>97858359 >>97858678 >>97858836 >>97859033 >>97859631

You guys may not know this, but the Hallelujah’s writer, interpreter and artist died this year. He was from my area and he was well known. He even has his own park and street named after him

Rest In Peace Leonard Cohen. He was one of Montreal’s greatest citizen

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:18:58 No.97858359 Report

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>>97858332
Did they play Hallelujah?

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:24:11 No.97858443 Report

Quoted By: >>97861690 >>97862704

It was pretty well-placed, if you ask me. I think people kind of forget this, because it's been overshadowed by memes and the sequels, but that first Shrek movie was surprisingly genuine. You really felt the pain of Shrek's (and Fiona's, for that matter) loneliness, and watching him come SO close to real happiness, only to lose it to a stupid misunderstanding, is actually pretty heart-wrenching.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:32:55 No.97858596 Report

Quoted By: >>97858981

>>97857172
Nevermind that it's become part of their leitmotif.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeHirZSy2SI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:38:00 No.97858678 Report

Quoted By: >>97858836

>>97858332
I honestly thought Leonard Cohen was popular and well known. Though I do make frequent visits to moo so that probably explains it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:42:26 No.97858748 Report

Quoted By: >>97858929

I find it crazy how Shrek went from this famous character whose movies were watched by tens of millions of people, to a forgotten has-been who's only known for greentext memes.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:44:39 No.97858783 Report

Quoted By: >>97858881

Shrek is a mastapiece desu no amount of memes can change that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:48:24 No.97858836 Report

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>>97858332
>>97858678
Leonard Cohen was popular, but he's more known for his 70s fame and subsequent rise after which only his radio hits were left circulating the mainstream. Which is what happens to almost every succesful artist in the deluge of modern musical spheres.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:51:37 No.97858881 Report

Quoted By: >>97859438 >>97862607

>>97858783
This

Did you know Shrek 1 actually follows a traditional Hero's Journey? It's pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:55:12 No.97858929 Report

Quoted By: >>97858968 >>97858969

>>97858748
>I find it crazy how Shrek went from this famous character whose movies were watched by tens of millions of people,

2 unnecessary sequel movies does that

I wouldn't call Shrek forgotten though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:57:31 No.97858968 Report

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>>97858929
They are always thinking about maybe doing a Shrek 5, after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:57:35 No.97858969 Report

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>>97858929
Shrek 2 and 4 were great, 3 was the only ass sequel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:58:13 No.97858981 Report

Quoted By: >>97863330

>>97858596

I thought that too at first, but it's more like this song did.

https://youtu.be/GfNJsDm5Di8

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:59:35 No.97858996 Report

Quoted By: >>97862743

>>97857407
All Star is a cover?

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 05:59:40 No.97858997 Report

Quoted By: >>97859072 >>97859449

tfw you realize Shrek became the blueprint for animated features that came after it

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 06:01:09 No.97859033 Report

Quoted By: >>97862716

>>97858332
He was legitimately one of the best, if not the best lyricists in music. Leonard lived a long life though, so not much to complain about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 06:03:39 No.97859072 Report

Quoted By: >>97859449 >>97859666

>>97858997

I remember the year it came out, it did incredibly well despite Spirits Within also came out which looked miles better.

Storywise Shrek was different and broke the kids' movie mold. So if it seems cliche by now it's because this is where the cliche started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 06:03:41 No.97859073 Report

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>>97857395
the transition from the suit of armor to Shrek is unironically brilliant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 06:04:12 No.97859086 Report

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>>97857544
did smash mouth just do all the music in shrek?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 06:26:58 No.97859438 Report

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>>97858881
Has big media somehow got the idea that they've outgrown the Hero's Journey? It's crazy, but I have been getting that impression.

Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO

Swift S. Lawliet !!VIQsbxF6xwO Wed 03 Jan 2018 06:27:53 No.97859449 Report

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>>97859072
I actually loved Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within and Atlantis: The Lost Empire in the year that they came out.
I liked Shrek and thought it was just okay.
I didn't get why everyone was raving about this movie when I loved Monsters Inc. and those two aforementioned movies much more.
I thought those two movies are really underrated.

There was even a point when I loved Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within more than the equally underrated Titan A.E..

>>97858997
I only felt despair when animated films became more like Shrek and more Shrek than stuff like Titan A.E., Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, Treasure Planet, and Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas.
Good thing they're getting more recognition lately and they are turning into cult classics.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 06:39:03 No.97859631 Report

Quoted By: >>97862152 >>97862760 >>97863108 >>97863173 >>97864259 >>97864361 >>97865248

>>97858332
>He dies the same week Trump gets elected
>SNL does an opening gag where Hillary comes out singing Hallelujah
>"Oh this is gonna be like a funny bit paying tribute to Leonard Cohen and lampooning the melodrama of this insane fucking election"
>"I bet they're gonna have Alec Baldwin come out and join her as Trump, then get Larry David in there, it'll be great"
>mfw it's literally just whatserface from the Ghostbusters reboot unironically singing Hallelujah as the opening skit
>mfw she turns to the camera at the end and, I shit you not, says "I won't stop fighting... neither should you..."
>mfw they opened with a skit that was more lighthearted after fucking 9/11 happened
>mfw I later heard that there was a moratorium put on Hallelujah after he died, which they ignored so this dumb retard could cry salty crocodile tears on live television

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 06:40:44 No.97859666 Report

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>>97859072
>broke the kids' movie mold
I see what you did there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 09:29:16 No.97861690 Report

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>>97858443
I didn't feel for Fionna because she was being a cunt and when they made her an ogre it was eye rolling shit

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 10:23:49 No.97862152 Report

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>>97859631
>mfw

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 10:51:26 No.97862382 Report

Quoted By: >>97862462 >>97862764 >>97862900 >>97863723

>>97857172
So somebody tell me, if the first Shrek was a legitimately good movie, what made it a subject of the internet's thirst for meme material? And if you say because it was soiled by sequels, then why only the first movie?
Really gets my noggin joggin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:00:44 No.97862462 Report

Quoted By: >>97862868

>>97862382
Making something memetic doesn't mean you hate it. Memes come from relatability and a lot of people like Shrek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:17:27 No.97862607 Report

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>>97858881

The Hero's Journey is just a more specific version of the Character Transformational Arc, which is followed by just about every single classical work in existance.
The CTA is one, and most popular, way to construct a good story, but just because a work follows the CTA it doesn't mean it's good. In the same way using perspective is a great thing to build your painting on, but just having correct perspective a good painting does not make.

Shrek is good, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:26:02 No.97862665 Report

Quoted By: >>97862797

>>97857172
I thought the version in Shrek was the original version for most of my life. When Watchmen, I assumed Leonard Cohen's version was a cover meant to sound sexy. I didn't know I had it backwards until earlier this year, and I still can't believe it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:30:23 No.97862704 Report

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>>97858443
The second Shrek movie was great too. Nothing after that should exist, except for the musical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:32:03 No.97862716 Report

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>>97859033
>Leonard Cohen
>in the same league as Sondheim
Nein.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:36:07 No.97862739 Report

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>>97857395
Fuck I really need to rewatch this film. And I still haven't seen the 4th one.

Animation still holds up besides the fire and maybe the armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:36:40 No.97862743 Report

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>>97858996
I think that was a joke and all star is a smash mouth original.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:39:24 No.97862760 Report

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>>97859631
This makes me very mad to hear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:40:04 No.97862764 Report

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>>97862382
Shrek 2 was good as well.
Or at least the climax was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:45:22 No.97862797 Report

Quoted By: >>97862843

>>97862665
I only found out recently when somebody was suggesting a sequel plot or something and suggested using an even more melancholic cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:50:52 No.97862843 Report

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>>97862797
Correction, it was a what if. Good stuff.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/96989975/#96992108

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:56:04 No.97862868 Report

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>>97862462
Youre right I guess. I mean (classic) Spongebob is a meme machine, but also regarded as the best seasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 11:59:51 No.97862900 Report

Quoted By: >>97863583

>>97862382
Shrek and Shrek 2 are unironically great family movies and were better than anything Disney was putting out at the time.

The rest ... not so much. Except maybe the TV specials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 12:02:42 No.97862919 Report

Quoted By: >>97862944

All you underage b&s dont remember this, but it was actually the cause of the big spike in popularity for the song. First shrek then it started getting covered on american idol and shit

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 12:06:21 No.97862944 Report

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>>97862919
Kind of like how when a character is in smash bros the franchise becomes more popular.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 12:27:43 No.97863108 Report

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>>97859631

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 12:36:18 No.97863173 Report

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>>97859631

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 12:41:14 No.97863214 Report

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>this movie was made just to shit on Disney because some asshole got angry after being fired.

what a petty origin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 12:53:36 No.97863330 Report

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>>97858981
I think that was a pop song written to go along with the Shrek theme by Harry Gregson-Williams and John Powell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEtYTEUOPWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5nQmqppdOU

>>97857956
Especially as Jennifer Saunders isn't a professional singer. She actually thought it was funny that she's in a film with Julie Andrews and it's her that gets the big musical number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 13:25:42 No.97863583 Report

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>>97862900
The Christmas special is pretty funny
>Momma always said it's not Christmas until somebody cried!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 13:39:53 No.97863723 Report

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>>97862382
I'm a professional Shrek memer and I enjoy it both on an ironic and unironic level.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 14:22:03 No.97864259 Report

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>>97859631
M A D

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 14:29:44 No.97864361 Report

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>>97859631
Trump's victory was a greater loss for the elites in the entertainment industry than a hundred 9/11s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 15:27:49 No.97865248 Report

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>>97859631
That's depressing, infuriating, and disappointing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 15:33:44 No.97865334 Report

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>>97857395
My only complaint is that that no one can top Leonard Cohen's raspy painful and soulful voice that lends so much melancholy to the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jan 2018 15:39:09 No.97865413 Report

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To go off on a bit of a strange tangent
>Be me
>Have a habit of when I go to bed after listening to a song or watching a movie with a song in it, that song is playing in my mead when I wake up the next morning
>Get a job as cartoonist in newspaper
>Editor is very kind, enthusiastic about my work, always has bit of feedback to give, a joy to work with
>Editor goes on sick leave but still stays in contact
>Watch Shrek one night
>Go to bed
>Wake up
>"Hallelujah" playing in head
>Go downstairs
>Pick up newspaper
>Read front page
>Get to the bottom
>Article saying editor passed away last night
>Song reaches chorus in head at same exact moment
Hallelujah, hallelujah... ;-;

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