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Why does Steven Universe get away with so many animation errors?

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 12:29:03 2017 No.97765607 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>97765617 >>97765620 >>97765621 >>97765643 >>97765794 >>97765804 >>97765810 >>97765838 >>97765857 >>97765867 >>97765871 >>97765893 >>97765919 >>97766022 >>97766034 >>97766103 >>97766215

I've heard people defend this by saying shit like "its a stylistic choice".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:29:59 No.97765613 Report

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It doesn't. We noticed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:30:58 No.97765617 Report

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>>97765607
What is this? It doesn't look like TTG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:31:14 No.97765620 Report

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>>97765607
People like the show, so they'll defend it even if it has genuine flaws. It's not that complicated, Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:31:27 No.97765621 Report

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>>97765607

Storyboarding and model sheets are problematic anti-diversity tools of the cis white male patriarchy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:33:00 No.97765631 Report

Quoted By: >>97765749

Same reason why faggots defended the Naruto anime. Because they like it and their opinion is more important than yours, even if it's factually shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:35:06 No.97765643 Report

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>>97765607
what do you mean with 'get away with'? do you want to fine the authors or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:52:04 No.97765738 Report

Quoted By: >>97766013

when you're more focused on your show's progressive message than your are on anything else
the quality of your art will undoubtedly start to decline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:54:06 No.97765749 Report

Quoted By: >>97765777

>>97765631
>implying Naruto is shit
What is this, 2008?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:58:06 No.97765766 Report

Quoted By: >>97765814 >>97765854 >>97765877 >>97766033 >>97766479 >>97766755 >>97766888

Whoever religiously love this show is downright autistic. The animation errors, writing inconsistencies, and horrid pacing just makes it obvious that Sugar is spineless when it comes to management of her own show and incompetent when it comes to choosing who works on her show.

Then again, these issues were rare in Season 1 and have blown up a few episodes in after Season 2. CN's abuse of the show's airing time may be the other leading factor on why the show isn't as good as it's supposed to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 12:59:32 No.97765777 Report

Quoted By: >>97765787 >>97765827

>>97765749
You'd better believe it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:01:40 No.97765787 Report

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>>97765777
You've earned a (You) for the dry chuckle that spoilered text elicited from me, sir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:02:27 No.97765794 Report

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>>97765607
That's not an animation error. You could call it being off-model. But you can't be off-model when you never had one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:02:35 No.97765796 Report

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You could put 5kg of Butter in a corner 2 meters below the ceiling and it would still have more artistic value than the changing sizes in Steven Universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:03:16 No.97765801 Report

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I'm not really that big into cartoons I guess so the animation doesn't matter as much as the voice acting, dialogue, characters and plot honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:03:28 No.97765804 Report

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>>97765607
>Why does Steven Universe get away with
This is literally the only thing about the show that gets discussed anymore, fuck off already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:04:22 No.97765810 Report

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>>97765607
I hate Steven Universe as much as the next non-retarded /co/mmunist, but do we seriously need these threads? The animations sucks, the point has been made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:05:14 No.97765814 Report

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>>97765766
I'd say if you religiously love ANY show makes you autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:06:23 No.97765827 Report

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>>97765777
Naruto, I'm on my way
Naruto, I'll be ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:07:34 No.97765838 Report

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>>97765607
different episodes, different storyboarding artists. People aren't "defending" height variation, just explaining.

Of course it's shit, but if it seriously bothers you, don't watch the show. That's all I can say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:10:21 No.97765854 Report

Quoted By: >>97765892

>>97765766
likewise, people like you constantly harping the same complaints may have some form of autism, don't you think? Move on with your life, please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:10:25 No.97765857 Report

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>>97765607
There's no excuse for this inconsistency. They may try to play it off as giving the animators creativity but in reality, they're just being lazy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:11:54 No.97765867 Report

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>>97765607
It's a fist of the north star reference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:12:12 No.97765871 Report

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>>97765607
Is it just me or are the arms not even the same thickness

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:12:26 No.97765873 Report

Quoted By: >>97765879 >>97765884 >>97765894 >>97765904

The gems are shapechangers and can do whatever they want. This is established in the first episodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:13:24 No.97765877 Report

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>>97765766
She doesn't even have the same fucking skin color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:13:35 No.97765879 Report

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>>97765873
Yet the inconsistent sizes also happen to non-gem characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:14:38 No.97765884 Report

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>>97765873
It's also established they can't hold a shape change for long.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:16:48 No.97765892 Report

Quoted By: >>97765901

>>97765854
>anyone who critiques my favorite show for obvious errors is autistic reeeeeeeeee
You move on with your life. You're so out of excuses for your favorite shitshow that you rely on ad-hominems like a sad baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:16:49 No.97765893 Report

Quoted By: >>97765921

>>97765607
The children that the show was designed for don't care

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:17:20 No.97765894 Report

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>>97765873
actually the default shape is set for good at rebirth, as explained in one other episore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:17:58 No.97765901 Report

Quoted By: >>97765930 >>97765990

>>97765892
As compared to what better shows?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:18:06 No.97765904 Report

Quoted By: >>97765927 >>97766755

>>97765873
>this shit excuse again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:20:14 No.97765919 Report

Quoted By: >>97765921

>>97765607
>doesn't effect the story being told in any way shape or form
>only autist seem to notice with case in point being this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:20:53 No.97765921 Report

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>>97765919
>>97765893
>w.w.who care? Stop talking like dad OK!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:22:22 No.97765927 Report

Quoted By: >>97765944 >>97765977

>>97765904
>changes to another image after he gets btfo.
The entire cast was effected by that design change for the second image you posted. No animation errors there

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:22:41 No.97765930 Report

Quoted By: >>97766136 >>97766159

>>97765901
Gumball, Bojack Horseman, Star Vs., Bunnicula, that dumb horseshoe, Justice League Action, Danger Mouse, Disney's Mickey Mouse, We Bare Bears, and even Rick & Morty are more fun to watch and have a much better consistency than the dumpster fire that current Steven Universe is.

And, if we look at OK KO, it suffers from the exact same fate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:24:34 No.97765944 Report

Quoted By: >>97766157

>>97765927
>"waaaaaaahhhh stop criticizing the show"
>ever calling that a "btfo" argument
Having your characters rapidly change in size and lineart quality in literally every scene is NOT a design change. You're seriously autistic if you think there are no animation errors in this show.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:28:12 No.97765967 Report

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Personal Favorite error

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:29:41 No.97765977 Report

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>>97765927
>if nobody do their work there's no mistake!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:31:28 No.97765990 Report

Quoted By: >>97766169

>>97765901
Littererly every other show on tv other than ok ko is more on model.

Steven universe should just switch to fucking flash puppets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:32:42 No.97766005 Report

Quoted By: >>97766039 >>97766046 >>97766060 >>97766092

I blame to Korean animators.
Instead of following the actual fucking model sheets, they just go with whatever the story boarders drew.

Or so I heard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:33:20 No.97766013 Report

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>>97765738
what progressive message?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:34:38 No.97766022 Report

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>>97765607
SJWs....that is the reason!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:35:43 No.97766033 Report

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>>97765766

>head is literally bigger than her fucking torso

How in the world anyone can defend this is beyond me. A cartoon like TTG would have the excuse that they're not meant to be serious like Steven Universe can be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:35:49 No.97766034 Report

Quoted By: >>97766059

>>97765607
If I remember the black guy of the su team said that animation consistency was not important to them so yeah there's your answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:36:17 No.97766039 Report

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>>97766005
>I blame to Korean animators.
racist is more convenient than accusing the people you follow on twitter after all. Despite them being the source of all shit discussed there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:36:48 No.97766046 Report

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>>97766005
It's the u.s crew that tells them to follow storyboard over model sheet.
I'm sure the koreans hate that they are forced to produce such a low quality product because the borders are so shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:39:05 No.97766059 Report

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>>97766034
That was Ian, the guy who created OK KO. He's just using that as an excuse for his incompetency.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:39:15 No.97766060 Report

Quoted By: >>97766071 >>97766075 >>97766645

>>97766005
>they just go with whatever the story boarders drew
They don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:39:46 No.97766063 Report

Quoted By: >>97766078 >>97766082

Should steven universe switch to flash puppets?

Should it switch to cgi?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:40:46 No.97766071 Report

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>>97766060
Oh wow they changed an angle slightly to save time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:41:25 No.97766075 Report

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>>97766060
haha wow some korean drew tiddies??
the absolute madman XD
also fuck you the storyboard picture looks much better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:41:33 No.97766078 Report

Quoted By: >>97766192

>>97766063
They should switch to ACTUAL puppets.

I'm a sucker for those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:41:53 No.97766082 Report

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>>97766063
It should switch to people who now how to do their job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:42:40 No.97766092 Report

Quoted By: >>97766205

>>97766005
>bosses screaming at you to get the episode done even though everyone knows it isn’t going to air for months
>the studio just holds on to completed episodes anyway
>you have 5 other episodes of different shows to get to
>they’re all pretty consistently storyboarded and you just have the model sheets up for reference
>SU boards sitting on your desk
>the character you’re supposed to be drawing is five heads high but the storyboard has it at three
>whatever, the bosses are still going up and down the aisles reeing about deadlines
>you don’t have time to worry about this weird ass cartoon and the studio seems weirdly accepting of major fuckups on this particular show
>the creator once visited the building on a special trip
>stuttered and rubbed the back of her neck a lot while the translator thanked everyone for their hard work and told them to never lose their individuality with a weird look on his face
>just follow the storyboard. Maybe this character is a shapeshifter. You’ve had to draw that shit before. Whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:43:52 No.97766103 Report

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>>97765607
They're more interested in giving the boarders more freedom than sperging about ultimately unimportant details.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:49:16 No.97766136 Report

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>>97765930
Damn straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:52:11 No.97766157 Report

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>>97765944
>being this autistic over a character redesign for a majority of the main cast

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:52:23 No.97766159 Report

Quoted By: >>97766218

>>97765930
You could give OK KO a pass tho because at least they are putting out some really fluid and dynamic animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:53:26 No.97766169 Report

Quoted By: >>97766231

>>97765990
>every other failed show not as popular SU is on model

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:56:24 No.97766192 Report

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>>97766078
>Fusion is just putting two puppets together and then having them fall to the floor offstage to be replaced by another puppet
>the big stuff uses oversized multi person puppets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:57:42 No.97766205 Report

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>>97766092
Pretty much this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:59:04 No.97766215 Report

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>>97765607
Because some fans are brain-damaged zealots

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 13:59:34 No.97766218 Report

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>>97766159
True. It's not really excusable but they at least have something to make up for it while steven universe is so up its own ass about muh pacifism it has a 10th of the fight scenes it should have.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 14:00:12 No.97766223 Report

Quoted By: >>97766695

Look at this shit. They need to get better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 14:01:02 No.97766231 Report

Quoted By: >>97766444

>>97766169
And every other show as popular or more popular.

And probably making more money as well. I doubt people are buying su merch anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 14:29:44 No.97766444 Report

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>>97766231
A show can have terrible models and still be popular.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 14:35:52 No.97766479 Report

Quoted By: >>97766498

>>97765766

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 14:39:13 No.97766498 Report

Quoted By: >>97766509

>>97766479
Will they ever stop keeping Steven as a stubby midget?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 14:40:48 No.97766509 Report

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>>97766498
No.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 14:52:21 No.97766609 Report

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Here's Flapjack's storyboarders by comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 14:58:03 No.97766645 Report

Quoted By: >>97766679

>>97766060
Top belong to Sugar, right? This is what cause the ire in my veins.

Sugar can draw and everything and her drawing have dynamic then the final animation yet with her mentality of "creative liberty" for her people working on the show (Koreans including) she simply loses grasps of her vision.

It's alright to have some freedom here and there yet you absolutely need to quit being lenient and lay down the fucking law on how to do your career. You'll have some co-workers hate you, yet it come with the burden and responsibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:01:40 No.97766676 Report

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I need more examples. SU must be the worst popular cartoon for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:01:45 No.97766679 Report

Quoted By: >>97766750

>>97766645
>Top belong to Sugar, right?
No, it's Hilary Florido's..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:03:22 No.97766695 Report

Quoted By: >>97766739 >>97766935

>>97766223
Wasn't Ian who told Sugar it is alright to go off-model sometimes? This guy need to get his shit together too.

It's prolly excuseable for OK KO because it is outlandish and cartoonish moreso then Steven Universe yet even the most outlandish and cartoonish shows like Ren and Stimpy, the Mighty Bee, or even Mucha Lucha can stay on fucking model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:09:01 No.97766739 Report

Quoted By: >>97766765 >>97766776

>>97766695
>Ren and Stimpy
No it didn't.
>Mighty Bee
Didn't see it.
>Mucha Lucha
Flash shows can't go off-model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:10:43 No.97766750 Report

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>>97766679
Really? She's one of the better artists on the show.
>Florido will never have her own animated cartoon based in a high school setting
It's unfair.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:11:47 No.97766755 Report

Quoted By:

>>97765766
>>97765904
I don't get why this has become such a thing for faggots to complain about now.
We've noticed this shit since Season 2. Pic related is one of the older SU pics I have saved.

Still, this shit really doesn't bother me cause I don't think of SU as a cartoon with good animation. It's got some fluidity at times, but it's not meant to be something super structural.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:12:41 No.97766765 Report

Quoted By: >>97766784

>>97766739
>No it didn't
Don't insult the great John K., like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:14:12 No.97766776 Report

Quoted By: >>97766800

>>97766739
>Didn't see it
It's one of the last great cartoons to aired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:15:33 No.97766784 Report

Quoted By: >>97766845

>>97766765
How's it an insult? Pretty sure he's against staying on-model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:17:36 No.97766800 Report

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>>97766776
I saw some of it, but for a wacky cartoon, it felt rather bland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:24:09 No.97766845 Report

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>>97766784
He's a misunderstood genius alot of "fans" take quotes of his and misattribute them. Pretty sure he do mind on-model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:29:51 No.97766888 Report

Quoted By: >>97766913

>>97765766
God, Connie used to look so great. Now she's a bobbleheaded gremlin and I hate it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:33:54 No.97766913 Report

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>>97766888
That one shot from season 2 doesn't represent her appearance onwards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:35:13 No.97766922 Report

Quoted By: >>97766985

When cartoons go off model its usually related to the stuff like Ren and Stimpy where its appropriate since the show's batshit insane or Avatar whenever its trying to make a type of joke. The point is whenever off model stuff is used in these cartoons its intentional, whenever its on Steven Universe, its comes off as oversights or errors and as to why its a problem? Its glaring and ruins the enjoyment of the show, it breaks the immersion of watching it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:36:21 No.97766935 Report

Quoted By: >>97767257

>>97766695
but ok ko is unwatchable garbage. It's literally not a finished product.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 15:42:23 No.97766985 Report

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>>97766922
For you, maybe. Most people don't notice, or if they do, certainly not care enough to throw bitchfits about it like around here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 16:10:07 No.97767257 Report

Quoted By: >>97767325

>>97766935
Weird, I've managed to watch the entire series painlessly. Maybe I just watch the series as it is without nitpicking every single frame.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 16:17:21 No.97767325 Report

Quoted By: >>97767362

>>97767257
Or, it's because you find anything acceptable as long as it has a variety of waifus, no matter how terrible its quality has become the longer it stayed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 16:21:04 No.97767362 Report

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>>97767325
Or, it's the fact that I don't give a shit about """""""waifus""""""" and just enjoy a show for simply being a show. It's not rocket science that I don't circlejerk like you faggots and say something is bad because X.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 16:22:18 No.97767374 Report

Quoted By: >>97767443 >>97768223

They're canonically shapechangers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 16:27:44 No.97767443 Report

Quoted By: >>97767492

>>97767374
That's a throw away exscuse and you as well as everyone that says that knows it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 16:31:01 No.97767492 Report

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>>97767443
it's an acceptable explanation that makes little attempt to do away with the art inconsistency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Dec 2017 17:20:51 No.97768223 Report

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>In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. The occurrence of cognitive dissonance is a consequence of a person performing an action that contradicts personal beliefs, ideals, and values; and also occurs when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values.
>In A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance (1957), Leon Festinger proposed that human beings strive for internal psychological consistency in order to mentally function in the real world. A person who experiences internal inconsistency tends to become psychologically uncomfortable and is motivated to reduce the cognitive dissonance. This is done by changing parts of the cognition to justify the stressful behavior, by adding new parts to the cognition that causes the psychological dissonance, or by actively avoiding social situations and contradictory information that are likely to increase the magnitude of the cognitive dissonance.

>>97767374
Connie isn't.

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